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BruiserB
Feb 7, 2011, 12:52 PM
Anyone think Apple's seriously working on this? I'd really love it if we could get some streaming apps. Adding video streaming from iOS devices will help, but a full on app store would be really cool.



Hellhammer
Feb 7, 2011, 12:55 PM
Steve said the app store for AppleTV could launch when the time is right.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/17/jobs-says-apple-tv-app-store-could-launch-when-the-time-is-right/

sandman42
Feb 7, 2011, 01:23 PM
What kind of apps are people hoping for? I'm probably just not being very imaginative, but unless there's also mouse, keyboard and/or game controller support coming in the future, I'm having a hard time picturing a big market for apps.

bozzykid
Feb 7, 2011, 01:29 PM
What kind of apps are people hoping for? I'm probably just not being very imaginative, but unless there's also mouse, keyboard and/or game controller support coming in the future, I'm having a hard time picturing a big market for apps.

MLB.tv, Hulu, etc. There are a whole range of apps that would be perfect for ATV. Obviously the api would make it so the apps would work with the apple tv remote.

tommylotto
Feb 7, 2011, 01:56 PM
DirecTV's NFL Sunday Ticket
Plex

jas1973
Feb 7, 2011, 03:09 PM
most of those apps mentioned will be fine if they just enabled video airplay from the iphone or ipad app itself. i see no reason why mlb tv wouldnt update their app to allow airplay to stream audio and video to the apple tv, since they already allow the roku player to bring it to your tv.

FriarNurgle
Feb 7, 2011, 03:18 PM
I just want to be able to AirPlay anything to the ATV, from video streams from any website on my PC to apps from my iPhone.

bozzykid
Feb 7, 2011, 08:29 PM
most of those apps mentioned will be fine if they just enabled video airplay from the iphone or ipad app itself. i see no reason why mlb tv wouldnt update their app to allow airplay to stream audio and video to the apple tv, since they already allow the roku player to bring it to your tv.

Why would I want to stream hours of content from an iPad or iPhone. My guess is airplay is used by just a tiny percentage of ATV owners. The whole point of an app store for the ATV will be so it doesnt rely on external hardware to play. MLB.tv and hulu would be all over creating apps for the ATV. They already have iOS apps so converting those apps to the ATV will not require major reworking of the backend code (the UI would have to be though).

d21mike
Feb 7, 2011, 08:56 PM
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I want a SlingBox App so I can watch TV in a room that I current don't have wired with Cable. Already have iPhone and iPad Apps. I prefer to use AppleTV in most rooms so even if I have it wired I don't need another cable box. Currently have 3 of 6 TVs have cable boxes.

phxl
Feb 7, 2011, 10:31 PM
"What kind of apps are people hoping for?"

at the very basic level... hulu, last.fm, pandora, sports, weather. it would also be nice if i had a clock and calendar?

renting movies on my atv2 has been a huge fail. netflix and youtube work well for me. access to my itunes library has worked well for me. give me more 3rd party content providers.

i've been holding my breath for months, but all i'm doing is turning blue in the face and using my xbox more and more for media.

SteveKnobs
Feb 7, 2011, 11:21 PM
I would love nothing more than to be able to access or stream safari to my Apple TV. The remote app on my iPad works great- I don't see why it would be a problem to use with Safari. I think this feature is the next logical step for the :apple: TV.

zenio
Feb 7, 2011, 11:30 PM
Apple will definitely open one. They've got people convinced they need to fork over more money to help Apple deliver a good experience. The app store model is a testimony to Apples fine salesmanship. After all who ever though a few years ago, fart apps would be needed to prove the expertise of Apple :)

BeachChair
Feb 8, 2011, 08:50 AM
SlingPlayer oh yeah.

jas1973
Feb 8, 2011, 08:53 AM
Why would I want to stream hours of content from an iPad or iPhone. My guess is airplay is used by just a tiny percentage of ATV owners. The whole point of an app store for the ATV will be so it doesnt rely on external hardware to play. MLB.tv and hulu would be all over creating apps for the ATV. They already have iOS apps so converting those apps to the ATV will not require major reworking of the backend code (the UI would have to be though).

i would much rather control the app from my ipad instead of navigating through the on screen menu with the crappy little apple remote. and i see nothing wrong with streaming couple hours of content from any of my ios devices. in fact i would probably buy another ipod touch to use as my remote app. the apps work so much easier with a touch screen then using the arrow and enter keys on the apple remote. And any more then a couple hours and you are spending too much time in front of the tv = )

jas1973
Feb 8, 2011, 08:56 AM
I would love nothing more than to be able to access or stream safari to my Apple TV. The remote app on my iPad works great- I don't see why it would be a problem to use with Safari. I think this feature is the next logical step for the :apple: TV.

i agree with you, this would be perfect and keeps the apple tv at a low affordable price

bozzykid
Feb 8, 2011, 09:01 AM
i would much rather control the app from my ipad instead of navigating through the on screen menu with the crappy little apple remote. and i see nothing wrong with streaming couple hours of content from any of my ios devices. in fact i would probably buy another ipod touch to use as my remote app. the apps work so much easier with a touch screen then using the arrow and enter keys on the apple remote. And any more then a couple hours and you are spending too much time in front of the tv = )

There's already a remote app for the iPod/iPhone/iPad. That has nothing to do with creating an App Store on the ATV that doesn't require an external device to stream from.

dmm219
Feb 8, 2011, 10:07 AM
"What kind of apps are people hoping for?"

at the very basic level... hulu, last.fm, pandora, sports, weather. it would also be nice if i had a clock and calendar?

renting movies on my atv2 has been a huge fail. netflix and youtube work well for me. access to my itunes library has worked well for me. give me more 3rd party content providers.

i've been holding my breath for months, but all i'm doing is turning blue in the face and using my xbox more and more for media.

Ask any grizzled veterans from the ATV1 days here: don't hold your breath. ATV has always been at the bottom of the list for Apple...and will continue to do so. Expect MODEST updates over the next few years with little to no new features. Enjoy what you have now and hope for the hacker scene to really open it up.

An apple app store simply is not going to happen any time soon...

Cuthbert
Feb 8, 2011, 10:43 AM
Ask any grizzled veterans from the ATV1 days here: don't hold your breath. ATV has always been at the bottom of the list for Apple...and will continue to do so. Expect MODEST updates over the next few years with little to no new features. Enjoy what you have now and hope for the hacker scene to really open it up.

An apple app store simply is not going to happen any time soon...

Best advice so far. I spent too much time waiting/wishing for updates in the early years of Apple TV.

You can wish in one hand and crap in the other. I'll let you see which one fills up first.

bozzykid
Feb 8, 2011, 10:46 AM
Best advice so far. I spent too much time waiting/wishing for updates in the early years of Apple TV.

You can wish in one hand and crap in the other. I'll let you see which one fills up first.

The difference now is the ATV2 is selling much better than the original (mainly because of the price). And ATV2 is also built using iOS. Apple clearly is hoping to bring more and more iOS features to the ATV, otherwise they would of kept the same platform as before. I don't know if that will ever include an App Store, but I do think it is likely at some point. Who knows when that will be but they almost have to build the App Store to keep up with other media extenders in the market.

Cuthbert
Feb 8, 2011, 11:10 AM
The difference now is the ATV2 is selling much better than the original (mainly because of the price). And ATV2 is also built using iOS. Apple clearly is hoping to bring more and more iOS features to the ATV, otherwise they would of kept the same platform as before. I don't know if that will ever include an App Store, but I do think it is likely at some point. Who knows when that will be but they almost have to build the App Store to keep up with other media extenders in the market.

I agree with you there. I just hate getting my hopes up. I really think that the Apple TV has the most potential out of all of Apple's products. I'm just tired of Apple not giving it due attention.

Or at least that is my perception. For all I know, Apple could be hard at work on this product to bring it beyond the hobby that it currently is. An app store would really start to show that they are ready to get serious about the Apple TV. My guess though is that before an app store, we will see the next generation of Apple TV with more built in storage (more than the current 8 gb of flash) to be able to handle some of the larger apps that would inevitably come with the opening of the store.

phxl
Feb 8, 2011, 11:50 AM
it would be a tragedy if they didn't pursue this. the market has developed a lot since the days of the original atv and they are perfectly poised to be at the top of the game.

i will continue to hold my breath until the next keynote. beyond that, it's out of my heart, it's out of my mind.

whooleytoo
Feb 8, 2011, 12:56 PM
The difference now is the ATV2 is selling much better than the original (mainly because of the price). And ATV2 is also built using iOS. Apple clearly is hoping to bring more and more iOS features to the ATV, otherwise they would of kept the same platform as before. I don't know if that will ever include an App Store, but I do think it is likely at some point. Who knows when that will be but they almost have to build the App Store to keep up with other media extenders in the market.

I agree, it just doesn't make sense to bring iOS to the AppleTV if they intend to drop it or keep it as a small-time "hobby" product. The App Store is a logical next step.

iMJustAGuy
Feb 8, 2011, 01:58 PM
Comeon Apple!? Then why the hell am I sitting on 8 beautiful gigabytes?

BlueKhufu
Feb 8, 2011, 02:15 PM
most of those apps mentioned will be fine if they just enabled video airplay from the iphone or ipad app itself. i see no reason why mlb tv wouldnt update their app to allow airplay to stream audio and video to the apple tv, since they already allow the roku player to bring it to your tv.

That would be great if they all did, but your scenario requires an AppleTV owner to also own a second iDevice. I'm sure most of us fall into that category, but it shouldnt - in my opinion - be required.

jas1973
Feb 8, 2011, 06:56 PM
That would be great if they all did, but your scenario requires an AppleTV owner to also own a second iDevice. I'm sure most of us fall into that category, but it shouldnt - in my opinion - be required.

Tell that to steve jobs :) they want everybody to be in that multiple iOS device category. It's a cheap priced add on to enhance your iOS devices and that's how I see it. It's an airport express with many more features at the same price. Because of the high price of the original apple tv it never really took off. So they cheaped it up figuring everyone who already has an iOS device or two will add this to the package. You save the money in cables and docks

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 8, 2011, 11:20 PM
I agree with you there. I just hate getting my hopes up. I really think that the Apple TV has the most potential out of all of Apple's products. I'm just tired of Apple not giving it due attention.

Or at least that is my perception. For all I know, Apple could be hard at work on this product to bring it beyond the hobby that it currently is. An app store would really start to show that they are ready to get serious about the Apple TV. My guess though is that before an app store, we will see the next generation of Apple TV with more built in storage (more than the current 8 gb of flash) to be able to handle some of the larger apps that would inevitably come with the opening of the store.

Till ATV2, ATV had been a hobby - not so now that ATV2 is using iOS. One has to listen to how Steve Jobs used "hobby" in introducing the ATV2 to realize that iOS is offering a new direction for ATV.

It may end up being the chicken vs the egg thing.... ATV2 is selling well - but maybe not enough for it's own App Store. But without an App Store the ATV2 may not sell in the numbers to make an App Store work.

I would not mind some screen savers (fireplace, and 3D photo savers); some games (with a touch pad controller like the Magic Pad but for the lap/hand - for those that don't own iPhones, iPads or iPod Touches).

tommylotto
Feb 10, 2011, 06:16 PM
Ask any grizzled veterans from the ATV1 days here: don't hold your breath. ATV has always been at the bottom of the list for Apple...and will continue to do so. Expect MODEST updates over the next few years with little to no new features. Enjoy what you have now and hope for the hacker scene to really open it up.

An apple app store simply is not going to happen any time soon...

As an old ATV1 veteran, I agree you should always make your purchase decision based upon a devices' current capabilities and not on possible future features. However, I disagree with your opinion on the future of ATV2. There will be some expansion, probably an app store. There are rumors aplenty. Just today evidence of a gaming controller was found in the system code, and a few months back DirecTV accidentally spilled the beans in a survey when they asked its customers if they knew that the NFL Sunday Ticket games could be viewed on other TV connected boxes including AppleTV -- Not, if it should be, but whether they knew it could be. It seems evident that plans are a foot, and they'll probably materialize before next football season.

Still, do not make plans on these speculative apps. Until the store is opened, plans could change.