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Diomedes
Feb 10, 2005, 02:19 PM
Can someone recommend a good GUI Unix emulator (something like CRT+ on the Windows side)? Or does Terminal fill that bill? Basically I am looking for an interface that allows issuance of Unix/Linux commands to a remote server without having to know Unix syntax.



superbovine
Feb 10, 2005, 03:09 PM
OS X kernel is unix, you don't need an emulator. Terminal will do just fine.

jeremy.king
Feb 10, 2005, 03:18 PM
Can someone recommend a good GUI Unix emulator (something like CRT+ on the Windows side)? Or does Terminal fill that bill? Basically I am looking for an interface that allows issuance of Unix/Linux commands to a remote server without having to know Unix syntax.

What kind of commands are you talking about? If its simple stuff like managing users, maintaining files, and other simple admin tasks - look into webmin (http://www.webmin.com)

Diomedes
Feb 10, 2005, 04:14 PM
It is for managing Red Hat Linux sendmail servers.

Diomedes
Feb 10, 2005, 04:36 PM
This is the application my Unix administrators want:

http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html

Vendor's description:
"SecureCRT is an extremely customizable terminal emulator for Internet and intranet use with support for Secure Shell (SSH1 and SSH2) as well as Telnet and rlogin protocols. SecureCRT is ideal for connecting to remote systems running Windows, UNIX, and VMS. Secure file transfer can be accomplished using the included VCP command-line application."

Is there a similar tool on the Mac, or does all need to be done through Terminal?

daveL
Feb 10, 2005, 04:44 PM
It's not as feature rich as SecureCRT, but you can do what you want with Terminal and the "ssh" command, both of which are native to OS X.

panphage
Feb 10, 2005, 05:54 PM
This is the application my Unix administrators want:

http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html

Vendor's description:
"SecureCRT is an extremely customizable terminal emulator for Internet and intranet use with support for Secure Shell (SSH1 and SSH2) as well as Telnet and rlogin protocols. SecureCRT is ideal for connecting to remote systems running Windows, UNIX, and VMS. Secure file transfer can be accomplished using the included VCP command-line application."

Is there a similar tool on the Mac, or does all need to be done through Terminal?
Terminal *is* the similar tool on the mac. OS X, as has been pointed out, is UNIX-based, and comes with SSH, telnet (DO NOT USE TELNET) and rlogin (well I assume OS X has rlogin...) If they are UNIX admins, tell them to just use the shell (terminal) like a real man. :D I personally don't want anyone issuing "Unix/Linux commands to a remote server without having to know Unix syntax". An admin should know what he's doing.

jeremy.king
Feb 10, 2005, 05:59 PM
And for SSH tunneling and SFTP, you can use Fugu (http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/)

Diomedes
Feb 10, 2005, 06:31 PM
Terminal *is* the similar tool on the mac. OS X, as has been pointed out, is UNIX-based, and comes with SSH, telnet (DO NOT USE TELNET) and rlogin (well I assume OS X has rlogin...) If they are UNIX admins, tell them to just use the shell (terminal) like a real man. :D I personally don't want anyone issuing "Unix/Linux commands to a remote server without having to know Unix syntax". An admin should know what he's doing.


LOL...well, the person who needs it is ME - the group's manager. The Unix admins get Windows. And I am not a Unix admin...I am just learning to be versed enough with it to administer sendmail.

daveL
Feb 10, 2005, 06:37 PM
LOL...well, the person who needs it is ME - the group's manager. The Unix admins get Windows. And I am not a Unix admin...I am just learning to be versed enough with it to administer sendmail.
Any Unix admin worth his salt would blow Windows away and install a Linux or FreeBSD distro, even if they had to come in on the weekend to do it. That's a weird situation: Unix admins can't use a *nix system to perform their function. Having been a lead Unix admin in a large shop I, personally, wouldn't stand for it. Why do you think Unix admins become Unix admins? Because they don't want to deal with M$ crap for a living. OK, I'll get off my soapbox now :).

panphage
Feb 11, 2005, 01:19 AM
I am just learning to be versed enough with it to administer sendmail.

Please accept my condolences. I think you'll find it takes about 10 minutes to know enough unix to ssh and so forth right from the command line, whereas administering sendmail was actually an afterlife punishment in ancient Greek myths. You probably don't have any say, but in case you do, maybe you could get qmail (maximum security) or postfix (good security, easier to admin) instead. As a confirmed *nix weenie, I can tell you that sendmail causes more trouble than it's worth, just like BIND. :D

daveL
Feb 11, 2005, 09:18 PM
Please accept my condolences. I think you'll find it takes about 10 minutes to know enough unix to ssh and so forth right from the command line, whereas administering sendmail was actually an afterlife punishment in ancient Greek myths. You probably don't have any say, but in case you do, maybe you could get qmail (maximum security) or postfix (good security, easier to admin) instead. As a confirmed *nix weenie, I can tell you that sendmail causes more trouble than it's worth, just like BIND. :D
Ditto.