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CHSeifert
Feb 22, 2011, 06:46 AM
Hey :)

I need my MBA for these things:
1. Microsoft Word and Excel
2. Internet

I already own iPad 32GB 3G and iPhone 4 32GB.

Just need a laptop for portability and better typing than on my iPad.

I've heard of heat issues with MBA ULTIMATE and that the fan runs more because of the bigger CPU.
Since I have small use for the larger CPU should I just get the 128GB 1.83 which should run cooler and more quietly because of smaller CPU ?

Thanks for help - tried a search but too much came up !

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Claus [iPhone



iNotion
Feb 22, 2011, 06:57 AM
If you are using it, just for Microsoft office & Internet, you should consider the 11" MBA... It looks damn good and performs better than most windows laptops or network around that size and weight.

Hey :)

I need my MBA for these things:
1. Microsoft Word and Excel
2. Internet

I already own iPad 32GB 3G and iPhone 4 32GB.

Just need a laptop for portability and better typing than on my iPad.

I've heard of heat issues with MBA ULTIMATE and that the fan runs more because of the bigger CPU.
Since I have small use for the larger CPU should I just get the 128GB 1.83 which should run cooler and more quietly because of smaller CPU ?

Thanks for help - tried a search but too much came up !

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Vh/Regards
Claus [iPhone

s1lv3r
Feb 22, 2011, 07:23 AM
Probably you won't be using all the "Ultimate" CPU because you aren't using CPU intensive applications.

I've the 13" Ultimate and for ME it is the best computer possible.

Damn portable and really fast. I play SC2 on it and run 1080p (plugged on my HDTV) and everything goes flawlessly. And sometimes I do some small edition on Photoshop, just that.

For me the 11" is too small. Don't think I need all that portability. The 13" is already really portable, has a great screen size and it really light - a simple 100 pages notebook its heavier.

CHSeifert
Feb 22, 2011, 07:29 AM
If you are using it, just for Microsoft office & Internet, you should consider the 11" MBA... It looks damn good and performs better than most windows laptops or network around that size and weight.

I also have the iPad with me so the MBA 11 is too close to the iPad in specs and I will appreciate the larger 13" screen, I think :)

I will use all my mac portable devices at the university - taking long notes and doing some pretty serious excel work.


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Vh/Regards
Claus [iPhone

iNotion
Feb 22, 2011, 07:50 AM
For me, i chose the 13" ultimate to the 13" or 11" is because beside iWork & Microsoft office, I'm also using quite a lot of Adobe applications, especially Photoshop. I need the extra power/ speed for converting videos.
Why i chose a 13"ultimate to a MBP is only because it is lighter and looks better! :D

sparkomatic
Feb 22, 2011, 08:44 AM
I have a 15" MBP and wanted to go more portable. So, I now have that MBP as a "home" mac and got the 13" Air with 1.86, 2GB RAM and 256 SSD.

I setup remote access to my home files and moved some stuff to the cloud as well. Very happy so far. I do use VMWare but not all the time. Windows 7 eats up some RAM there but XP runs great on it.

I'd go for the 13" with the 128GB unless you think you'll need more drive space. I got the extra drive space but really don't think I'll need it.

KPOM
Feb 22, 2011, 01:32 PM
If you don't need the extra space, the 1.86GHz version should be fine. I'd suggest getting the 4GB model for the extra $100, particularly if you like to have a lot of applications open at the same time. Office can use up a lot of RAM.

topmounter
Feb 22, 2011, 02:36 PM
I have the 13" ultimate and while I don't play SC2 on it, it runs as cool as a cucumber for me (even without Coolbook running). I don't think you'll notice much of a performance difference between the two today, but I went with the ultimate to make sure I'd maximize its useful lifespan.

spacepower7
Feb 22, 2011, 03:21 PM
Since you use excel any 13" MBA is better than any 11" MBA

CHSeifert
Feb 22, 2011, 04:08 PM
Think I'll get the MBA Ultimate (256 GB ram & 2.13Ghz) but 2 things worry me about this version.

1. Rumours say this version runs hotter - same size chassis means hotter and more fan noise

2. Rumours say you have a better chance of getting the faster Samsung SSD in the 128 GB version than in the 256 GB version

Will probably also get Aperture - but have a HUGE home built PC as my home Computer for photo edit (12 GB ram, 3 (three) Intel SSD drives for Win 7, programs and most often used files and a 3 TB HDD for music and movies)

So still not sure what to get - but leaning towards the MBA Ultimate :)


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Vh/Regards
Claus [iPhone

Kenndac
Feb 22, 2011, 04:20 PM
I have the MacBook Air 1.83GHz/128Gb/4Gb and I adore the thing. It's my main work machine at a software company, and I work with pretty large projects (around 750,000 lines of code, I believe) and it's awesome at the task!

topmounter
Feb 22, 2011, 04:26 PM
re: 1) Like I said above, my ultimate runs very cool and I can't say I've ever noticed the fan come on. I had a 15" MBP that could melt denim, even with the fans at full speed.

re: 2) Mine has the "slower" SSD, but I really don't think the SSD performance is a bottleneck in the MBA... especially when I benchmark the drive performance of my 2.93GHz iMac and its HDD is still 5x or more slower than my MBA.

abuleban
Feb 22, 2011, 04:47 PM
and it runs cool as can be, no fan noise unless I'm doing something processor intensive, which isn't too often

get it, you won't regret it!

:D

orfeas0
Feb 22, 2011, 04:52 PM
I also have the iPad with me so the MBA 11 is too close to the iPad in specs and I will appreciate the larger 13" screen, I think :)

I will use all my mac portable devices at the university - taking long notes and doing some pretty serious excel work.


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Vh/Regards
Claus [iPhone

for word/excel/internet you will need no more than the basic 13" (if thats the size you want) macbook air. Unless you need more storage or ram, you should go for the lower-end model. But you certainly don't need the better CPU for those tasks!

AndrewMoney
Feb 22, 2011, 04:54 PM
I have the MacBook Air 1.83GHz/128Gb/4Gb and I adore the thing. It's my main work machine at a software company, and I work with pretty large projects (around 750,000 lines of code, I believe) and it's awesome at the task!

I'm looking into the same setup and decision - can you elaborate on your coding environment, is that XCode or something else?

halledise
Feb 22, 2011, 05:47 PM
I have the 13"/1.86/4/128 - it flies and handles intensive tasks well.

the only reason really for going to the 2.13 model is if you require the additional storage.

whichever way you go though, do ensure you get the additional memory.
this will stand you in good stead for now and into the future

MoodyMedStudent
Feb 22, 2011, 10:05 PM
Get the ultimate if:

1) You need the extra storage space
2) You have extra money to burn

2IS
Feb 22, 2011, 10:23 PM
Save your $400 and go with the 1.83. For what you're doing it's plenty. Honestly, if 1.83 isn't enough for whatever tasks one may have I'm not convinced 2.13 would be either. The larger capacity drive would be more of a reason to go with the Ultimate, not so much the CPU. So really the question becomes, do you need more than 128GB?

Bluezeno
Feb 22, 2011, 10:39 PM
I had a HP 17" i7 laptop which I sold and got the 13" mba ultimate just a month ago. Mostly because the 11" screen size was too small for me to use at the library (looking at powerpoints and word documents) and the 13" is light as hell and the smaller bezel makes it look nicer. Also, I got the ultimate because I wanted to run parallels connected to a 27" monitor when I'm at home. It doesn't run crystal smooth like it did on my HP laptop but it runs well enough for me not to complain.

If you have the patience to wait for apple to ship it to your house, I'd get the 1.83Ghz with 256GB SSD with 4GB ram. The extra CPU increase doesn't make much difference. I just got the 2.13 because I didn't want to wait.

Also, the heat is NOT a problem. The fan does turn on occasionally when I'm updating Windows (like I did for Win 7 SP1 just now) but other than when you're using alot of your CPU, it hardly ever turns on.

Finally, don't get the 11" just because there's a better chance for you to get the faster SSD. Is an extra 1-2 seconds really worth that much to you?

Mr. Savage
Feb 22, 2011, 11:38 PM
Save your $400 and go with the 1.83. For what you're doing it's plenty. Honestly, if 1.83 isn't enough for whatever tasks one may have I'm not convinced 2.13 would be either. The larger capacity drive would be more of a reason to go with the Ultimate, not so much the CPU. So really the question becomes, do you need more than 128GB?

Seconded. Seriously, for the needs you've described, the base 13 is more than adequate.

sparkomatic
Feb 22, 2011, 11:44 PM
Whatever you get I'm sure you'll be happy. I just finished a day of being out at a job site using my Air off and on and still have 3 hrs. of battery left! Awesome!!

No way I could have gotten that much battery from my 15" MBP. Never plugged into a power source the whole day. :D

mr3cho
Feb 23, 2011, 12:33 AM
I'm looking into the same setup and decision - can you elaborate on your coding environment, is that XCode or something else?

I also code on my Ultimate. But I use Flex, Flash, photoshop and sometimes an iphone simulator. No issues at all there...even with all of them running simultaneously. Once in a while FLash Builder and safari will eat up alot of my 4gb ram and start paging out. I also have XCode and eclipse installed but haven't used them yet extensively.

As far as the fan/heat issue. Fan seems to come on watching flash videos. Always comes on when using Facetime.

Finally, highly recommended to install clickToFlash. Flash gobbles up mem and batt life.

Mhaddy
Feb 23, 2011, 06:07 AM
For those commenting that the CPU bump isn't that big of a deal, have you thought about the longevity of the device? Will getting the faster CPU in any way extend how long you could realistically use it? The reason I ask is because I have one of the original 1.6/80 MBA's, which is reaching the end of its life for how I use it and I'm wondering if I had gotten the CPU bump to 1.8 back then, if it would have allowed me to use it a little longer. Thoughts appreciated!

ZombieZakk
Feb 23, 2011, 06:13 AM
not to hijack the thread but i too am between these two models either the 13" 1.86/4gb/128 or the 2.13/4gb/256 i believe i read somewhere you cant swap out the SSD since its soldered to the logic board correct? because honestly i dont need the processor but the storage would be nice. thnx

ZombieZakk
Feb 23, 2011, 06:16 AM
For those commenting that the CPU bump isn't that big of a deal, have you thought about the longevity of the device? Will getting the faster CPU in any way extend how long you could realistically use it? The reason I ask is because I have one of the original 1.6/80 MBA's, which is reaching the end of its life for how I use it and I'm wondering if I had gotten the CPU bump to 1.8 back then, if it would have allowed me to use it a little longer. Thoughts appreciated!

honestly 1.6 to 1.8 in really intensive applications wont make a huge lifespan difference. your best bet if your truely require intensive apps is to go with a pro and pop in an ssd the size is bigger but the cpu power is there. but all depends on your use.

SR20DETDOG
Feb 23, 2011, 06:21 AM
not to hijack the thread but i too am between these two models either the 13" 1.86/4gb/128 or the 2.13/4gb/256 i believe i read somewhere you cant swap out the SSD since its soldered to the logic board correct? because honestly i dont need the processor but the storage would be nice. thnx
Don't hold me to it, but, IIRC OWC had bigger SSD's for the MBA. I think the RAM is soldered to the board but the SSD isn't.

EDIT: A quick search on Google brought this (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Express) up.

bb.muzmm
Feb 23, 2011, 06:22 AM
should waffles be the national food for america? why or why not.

ZombieZakk
Feb 23, 2011, 06:26 AM
Don't hold me to it, but, IIRC OWC had bigger SSD's for the MBA. I think the RAM is soldered to the board but the SSD isn't.

EDIT: A quick search on Google brought this (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Express) up.

thanks i could have sworn i read somewhere that the ssd and ram were soldered down but i am glad to know its just the ram. now i can go with the 128 perhaps knowing i can upgrade in the future.:D

teerexx52
Feb 23, 2011, 06:58 AM
I have both a 2010 13" Ultimate and an 11" base. For my needs either does the job. The 13" does run warmer and the fans tend to ramp up especially on Flash sites. The 11" does not get anywhere near the temps or fan speeds of the 13" on the same flash sites.

2IS
Feb 23, 2011, 11:14 AM
For those commenting that the CPU bump isn't that big of a deal, have you thought about the longevity of the device? Will getting the faster CPU in any way extend how long you could realistically use it? The reason I ask is because I have one of the original 1.6/80 MBA's, which is reaching the end of its life for how I use it and I'm wondering if I had gotten the CPU bump to 1.8 back then, if it would have allowed me to use it a little longer. Thoughts appreciated!

The speed bump isn't significant enough to make a real difference. Now going from the base 1.4GHz in the 11" to the upper end 2.13GHz on the 13" is pretty significant but going from 1.86 to 2.13 isn't exactly a game changer.

CHSeifert
Feb 23, 2011, 11:59 AM
OkiDoki ;)

Bought the MBA Ultimate - 256 GB & 2.13 Ghz & 4 GB ram with a 2 TB Time Capsule and Airport express

Hope this will serve me well :)

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Vh/Regards
Claus [iPhone

s1lv3r
Feb 23, 2011, 12:10 PM
congrats buddy!

I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied with your new toys :D

TheHoff
Feb 23, 2011, 08:49 PM
should waffles be the national food for america? why or why not.

Yes. They are delicious with butter and syrup.