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lozanoj83
Feb 24, 2011, 11:48 AM
Besides including pre-access to the betas, forums and 2 case incidents would having a Mac Developer account (paying the $99 a year) give you a retail version of Lion when it comes out or would you have to purchase that separately?



mikeh20
Feb 24, 2011, 12:19 PM
9 to 5 mac confirms you get a retail copy...

9to5mac 
For those asking for Lion: $99 buys you a Mac Dev account which includes a copy of Lion when it is released.

Seems like a bargain!
1 minute ago from Twitter for Mac

rorschach
Feb 24, 2011, 12:32 PM
9 to 5 mac confirms you get a retail copy...

9to5mac 
For those asking for Lion: $99 buys you a Mac Dev account which includes a copy of Lion when it is released.

Seems like a bargain!
1 minute ago from Twitter for Mac

This makes me think Lion will cost $99. If it costs $129, why wouldn't everyone just sign up for a developer account and save 30 bucks when the retail version is released?

lulla01
Feb 24, 2011, 01:03 PM
where does it say that paying 99.00 for a dev account gets you a copy of lion when it is released?

ct2k7
Feb 24, 2011, 01:13 PM
where does it say that paying 99.00 for a dev account gets you a copy of lion when it is released?

http://twitter.com/#!/9to5mac/status/40820573957394432

lulla01
Feb 24, 2011, 01:50 PM
i am just debating whether it is worth the 105.98 after tax for the membership but if you get acopy of lion that is potentially 100 retail its worth it, any opinions?

Kahnyl
Feb 24, 2011, 01:54 PM
why wouldn't everyone just sign up for a developer account
Probably something to do with effort and time and stuff.

admanimal
Feb 24, 2011, 01:55 PM
i am just debating whether it is worth the 105.98 after tax for the membership but if you get acopy of lion that is potentially 100 retail its worth it, any opinions?

Don't spend your money just for a beta product where any given feature can be broken in a particular release, especially when the final retail product could be significantly cheaper. Not to mention there is no guarantee that a completely unrestricted retail version of Lion will be available when it is done, i.e. they could somehow tie it to your developer account so the OS expires when your Developer membership does. They are already doing things differently this year by distributing the beta via the App Store.


This makes me think Lion will cost $99. If it costs $129, why wouldn't everyone just sign up for a developer account and save 30 bucks when the retail version is released?

Why do people buy the family packs of Apple software when the single user versions have no restrictions on how many computers you can install them on? Because some people feel that is the honest thing to do, like not signing up for a developer program just to get pre-release software for personal use.

saving107
Feb 24, 2011, 02:21 PM
where does it say that paying 99.00 for a dev account gets you a copy of lion when it is released?

Don't developers get a GM build right before the public release?

So wouldn't that be considered the same to getting the copy of Lion when its released?

zorinlynx
Feb 24, 2011, 02:29 PM
Does the $99 fee to become a registered developer cover iPhone development too?

Kahnyl
Feb 24, 2011, 02:56 PM
No.

saving107
Feb 24, 2011, 03:21 PM
Does the $99 fee to become a registered developer cover iPhone development too?

Nope,

$99 to be a developer for iOS
$99 to be a developer for Mac

HiFiGuy528
Feb 24, 2011, 03:25 PM
How many machines can you install
lion on? Perhaps to share the cost with friend?

ct2k7
Feb 24, 2011, 03:26 PM
How many machines can you install
lion on? Perhaps to share the cost with friend?

I can't generate another promotion code :(

lulla01
Feb 24, 2011, 03:37 PM
im debating whether to suign up or wait for a public dev build available online, im just wondering if devs will get the full version free and the only confirmation of that has been that tweet from 9to5mac, does any dev know if that was the case with snow leopard?

admanimal
Feb 24, 2011, 03:46 PM
im debating whether to suign up or wait for a public dev build available online, im just wondering if devs will get the full version free and the only confirmation of that has been that tweet from 9to5mac, does any dev know if that was the case with snow leopard?

Yes, Mac Developer Program members can download Snow Leopard and Snow Leopard Server (current and beta versions) at will from the web site. They don't send you actual DVDs anymore, however, if that's what you're asking.

Snow Leopard Server requires a serial number that expires periodically and must be replaced with a new one, which of course you can only get if you continue your Mac Developer Program membership. They probably won't do this for Lion, but again there is no guarantee that they won't do something else to prevent you from using Lion once your program membership presumably expires after a year. There is currently no restriction on the non-server copy of Snow Leopard that they give you, but then again its price was significantly less than that of the program membership.

I'll repeat what I said earlier: I think it's dumb to spend $99 on an unfinished piece of software that could potentially cost much less at retail and/or expire after a year.

rorschach
Feb 24, 2011, 03:49 PM
im debating whether to suign up or wait for a public dev build available online, im just wondering if devs will get the full version free and the only confirmation of that has been that tweet from 9to5mac, does any dev know if that was the case with snow leopard?

Yes they did: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=763690

The developer program has always included the GM seed for every OS X version.

lulla01
Feb 24, 2011, 04:32 PM
i just ended up paying the 100, even if it did become publicly available through other chaannels i dont want to deal with the hassle of updating via unauthorized methods, plus i like new toys. Theres still a good 5 months before the OS comes out and i love playing with it before hand. When i got snow leopard dev releasses it was downloaded without a channel like the app store.

saving107
Feb 24, 2011, 04:58 PM
How many machines can you install
lion on? Perhaps to share the cost with friend?

9to5mac.com detailed how to do so, but I haven't tried this to verify that it would work (i'm not a developer).

- In order to install Lion to additional systems, copy the Mac OS X Lion Installer application from /Applications over to your second Mac and double-click on the application. This can only be done on Mac you have authorized to share content downloaded from the Mac App Store.

http://www.9to5mac.com/53776/lion-install-is-over-a-redeem-code-in-the-mac-app-store