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iPhone1
Feb 25, 2011, 08:58 AM
TRIM Support : YES!!!!!!!



ct2k7
Feb 25, 2011, 09:01 AM
Confirmed on MBA (Late 2010)! (x 100)

Hellhammer
Feb 25, 2011, 09:04 AM
This is good news.

LoganT
Feb 25, 2011, 09:48 AM
So what is TRIM support and why is it a good thing to have?

saving107
Feb 25, 2011, 09:59 AM
So what is TRIM support and why is it a good thing to have?

Whatís the big deal with TRIM support? To put it simply, operating systems like Snow Leopard that donít have TRIM support will treat solid state drives as regular, spinning drives when writing and deleting blocks of data. Snow Leopard doesnít exactly know itís dealing with an SSD, and while youíll notice incredible performance improvements in daily usage, the same performances will slowly degrade over time without TRIM support. TRIM correctly tells the operating system which blocks of data are no longer in use in the solid state unit, and the OS passes the information along to the SSD controller so it can wipe blocks internally.

Basically: this is great news for SSD aficionados and, looking forward, a smart move from Apple as the move to solid state drives in all Mac computers seems inevitable.

http://www.macstories.net/news/os-x-lion-adds-trim-support-for-ssds/

Stratus Fear
Feb 25, 2011, 10:16 AM
Apparently not all SSDs. At least my OCZ Vertex 2 doesn't appear to have it enabled in Lion, although it works fine in Windows.

LoganT
Feb 25, 2011, 10:18 AM
I've also heard that TRIM is good for cheaper quality SSD drives.

iPhone1
Feb 25, 2011, 10:32 AM
Apparently not all SSDs. At least my OCZ Vertex 2 doesn't appear to have it enabled in Lion, although it works fine in Windows.

That would suck if Apple made Lion to support TRIM only on Apple branded SSD's. Let's hope this is not the case.

Stratus Fear
Feb 25, 2011, 10:52 AM
That would suck if Apple made Lion to support TRIM only on Apple branded SSD's. Let's hope this is not the case.

Well if that ends up being the case, I'm sure some smart people will find a way to make it work ;)

mrblack927
Feb 25, 2011, 10:55 AM
Apparently not all SSDs. At least my OCZ Vertex 2 doesn't appear to have it enabled in Lion, although it works fine in Windows.

Indeed. My Intel X25-M G2 SSD is not supported either. :(

axu539
Feb 25, 2011, 11:36 AM
Indeed. My Intel X25-M G2 SSD is not supported either. :(

Hmm this is very bad news. I wonder if I should order an Apple SSD with the new MBP then, and just sell my own G2. Anyone have any thoughts?

Hellhammer
Feb 25, 2011, 11:40 AM
Hmm this is very bad news. I wonder if I should order an Apple SSD with the new MBP then, and just sell my own G2. Anyone have any thoughts?

That is the first beta of Lion. TRIM support may still be taking its baby steps so don't make decisions based on what Lion currently supports.

ufkdo
Feb 25, 2011, 11:41 AM
It was one of the good news I was waiting for.

axu539
Feb 25, 2011, 11:42 AM
That is the first beta of Lion. TRIM support may still be taking its baby steps so don't make decisions based on what Lion currently supports.

Definitely definitely. However, I will cancel my order for now, since I should probably wait on some reviews anyway. I'd also like to see what SSDs they're actually using this time around.

Hellhammer
Feb 25, 2011, 11:45 AM
Definitely definitely. However, I will cancel my order for now, since I should probably wait on some reviews anyway. I'd also like to see what SSDs they're actually using this time around.

That is always a good choice. Anand is already working on review and IMO AT's reviews are one of the best in the Internet.

GekkePrutser
Feb 25, 2011, 12:13 PM
What I said before: Knowing that it's a shame though that Apple didn't pick TRIM-capable SSD's for the current generation MacBook Airs. There's 2 suppliers in there currently, Toshiba and Samsung but neither support TRIM, according to the System Profiler :(

Sorry, I stand corrected

Hellhammer
Feb 25, 2011, 12:20 PM
Knowing that it's a shame though that Apple didn't pick TRIM-capable SSD's for the current generation MacBook Airs. There's 2 suppliers in there currently, Toshiba and Samsung but neither support TRIM, according to the System Profiler :(

It shows no TRIM support because OS X does not support it. See above, Intel X-25M supports TRIM but in OS X the TRIM support is stated as no. The second post also says that TRIM support has been confirmed with 2010 MBAs.

luggles
Jul 21, 2011, 08:35 AM
Any new information on whether the final release of Lion, allows for Trim support on non-apple branded SSDs?

I'm holding off purchase on a Intel 320 because it doesn't have garbage collection, and unsure about TRIM enabler.

Cougarcat
Jul 21, 2011, 08:44 AM
It doesn't.

rmwebs
Jul 21, 2011, 09:28 AM
Confirmed, trim not working at all on my OCZ-Vertex2 :(

I guess this is another one of those moments where Apple are being *******s, forcing people to buy majorly overpriced SSD's from them. Hopefully someone can come up with a way to enable this.

EDIT: Just found this :D http://www.machrome.com/2011-07/enable-trim-support-for-third-party-ssd-on-lion.mac