10.7 All the Little Things! [Archive] - Page 5

cg0def

Jun 13, 2011, 04:14 PM

There has been a lot of focus on what Apple fixed with the new release however, they also broke certain things. When you enter fullscreen mode (the new fullscreen mode, your window does not actually stay on the screen that it was. This is very much what iTunes used to do only now every application does it. Essentially you cannot watch a video in QT in fullscreen on one monitor while doing something else on another. Now that is some serious ***** if you ask me.

Also when you have multiple monitors attached, Mission Control does not work as well as you'd expect. You get a separate set of Mission Control(s) for each monitor connected. Yes not really a problem with most MacBooks but most definitely a problem with professional setups.

Launchpad crashes all the time, so lets hope that gets fixed fast. And also the full screen transition animation is too slow. That last one would be a breeze fixing.

Also for some reason back and forward gestures are with 2 rather than 3 fingers now. I get it that maybe it's a bit too many fingers but Apple changed the default from SL and that's just confusing. Good news though, you can change desktop switcher to 4 fingers and then back and forward work with both 2 and 3 fingers. Lets hope that's not a bug …

Last but probably not least important, going into full screen mode seems to create a new virtual desktop in some cases. It is a bit confusing because there is no indication of the action and sometimes it is not a very logical one because there are empty desktops …

I am sure there are lost of other little annoyances but those are the ones that have gotten on my nerves so far.

My rants aside, application jails is finally here and with Apple's effort and the AppStore, it will make the OS a lot more secure and possibly stable. Unfortunately, the OS is coming out in a month and what we have today is far from being polished. It will take a couple of updates until we get to the usual OS X experience and unfortunately things are just like with previous releases.

markrox7

Jun 13, 2011, 10:23 PM

When we download and install Lion, will that Welcome video thing come up when we first restart our Mac?

hopejr

Jun 13, 2011, 11:24 PM

Last but probably not least important, going into full screen mode seems to create a new virtual desktop in some cases. It is a bit confusing because there is no indication of the action and sometimes it is not a very logical one because there are empty desktops …

This is well documented and is an advertised feature. I think the indication is that the menu bar and dock slide off the screen. (BTW, if you've just noticed this, where have you been if you have Lion? Scratching my head a little over this one).

Lukeit

Jun 14, 2011, 01:31 AM

I just discovered it so go easy on me if this was not a new feature...

I have just found out that you can "quick look" on items that pop out of a stack in the dock...

Try click on a stack and then simply put the mouse pointer on any item, then press space bar... voilà.
Ain't it swell?

Lord Appleseed

Jun 14, 2011, 02:24 AM

I have a question concerning Launchpad and the F-Keys:

Since Mission Control is using the F3 key as shortcut and Dashboard the F4 key, is there a way to make F5 a shortcut for the Launchpad?

Thanks

wesleyh

Jun 14, 2011, 04:20 AM

Can anyone tell me what new magic mouse gestures are available and how they operate? Also, which aren't available compared to trackpad?

RoelJuun

Jun 14, 2011, 05:31 AM

Try click on a stack and then simply put the mouse pointer on any item, then press space bar... voilà.
Ain't it swell?

Needed this feature for a long time, seems so simple. But can you somehow 'select' several files at once in the stack to display them in quicklook? Because watching pictures from a stack isn't very ergonomic.
You have to click on the stack, than press the 'open in Finder' button. Cmd + A for select all, press the space bar and it shows you all the files. (And finally the window resizes automatically).
Alternative is to hold command while clicking the stack to open it directly, but it's just not instant. (I'm someone with stacks full of collected pictures that I use several times a day)

baryon

Jun 14, 2011, 06:53 AM

Needed this feature for a long time, seems so simple. But can you somehow 'select' several files at once in the stack to display them in quicklook? Because watching pictures from a stack isn't very ergonomic.
You have to click on the stack, than press the 'open in Finder' button. Cmd + A for select all, press the space bar and it shows you all the files. (And finally the window resizes automatically).
Alternative is to hold command while clicking the stack to open it directly, but it's just not instant. (I'm someone with stacks full of collected pictures that I use several times a day)

Yeah, I wish QuickLook would automatically go to the next or previous picture in the folder even if you only selected a single file. Why do we have to select all of them, and then start from the first file all over again, if I want to quickly look at a few photos one after the other?

reubs

Jun 14, 2011, 10:37 AM

Yeah, I wish QuickLook would automatically go to the next or previous picture in the folder even if you only selected a single file. Why do we have to select all of them, and then start from the first file all over again, if I want to quickly look at a few photos one after the other?

Pathfinder does this, and it's a really great feature. I didn't know it was there when I installed it, but it's really helpful for the reasons you outlined.

C64

Jun 14, 2011, 01:26 PM

I have a question concerning Launchpad and the F-Keys:

Since Mission Control is using the F3 key as shortcut and Dashboard the F4 key, is there a way to make F5 a shortcut for the Launchpad?

Thanks
If there's no setting in Lion itself, you can always install KeyRemap4MacBook (http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/) and bind anything to anything.

markrox7

Jun 14, 2011, 01:31 PM

When Lion comes out for the public, will it include iLife '11? Or will I be stuck with iLife '09?

mrapplegate

Jun 14, 2011, 01:37 PM

When Lion comes out for the public, will it include iLife '11? Or will I be stuck with iLife '09?

Stuck with iLife 09. The OS releases do not come with iLife, only a new computer comes with it installed.

NT1440

Jun 14, 2011, 01:39 PM

Can you check to see if you have Perian installed :D?

Touché, totally forgot I had that installed over a year ago.

MyDesktopBroke

Jun 14, 2011, 06:43 PM

So, if I buy a new mac with Lion, does it not come with any boot disc?

Lord Appleseed

Jun 15, 2011, 05:17 AM

So, if I buy a new mac with Lion, does it not come with any boot disc?

Of course it will come with some backup media, either disc or usb (like with the MBA)

emdubb

Jun 15, 2011, 10:22 AM

So I installed DP4, upgraded instead of clean install, and unless I'm mistaken you can no longer use small mailbox icons in Mail.app! I checked every menu, checked the plist and I see nowhere to set it. I -hate- the larger mailbox icons. Anyone have any luck or any advice? :confused:

funrush

Jun 15, 2011, 10:31 AM

emdubb

Jun 15, 2011, 10:36 AM

It's now a general setting in System Preferences > General > Sidebar Icons Size

OHHHHHH thank you. Thank you thank you THANK YOU.

I was resigned to staring at these enormous, unsightly icons for eternity... thankyouthankyouthankyou!

emdubb

Jun 15, 2011, 11:12 AM

Ok, another huge issue that I thought was solved.

My 13" Unibody Macbook Pro won't sleep. Close the lid, display goes off, keyboard darkens but the light on the front doesn't strobe and it won't wake up, it just seems to... die. I've checked all the usual suspects, I have no sharing enabled, the spotlight isn't indexing (well it is at the moment because of the most recent crash, but wasn't before I closed the lid) and I just can't seen to figure out what it is. My wife's older mid-2008 15" Macbook Pro with DP2 sleeps just fine but it's been an issue with this laptop with DP2, DP3 and DP4 so it has to be something I'm missing. Any ideas?

Lord Appleseed

Jun 15, 2011, 11:27 AM

OHHHHHH thank you. Thank you thank you THANK YOU.

I was resigned to staring at these enormous, unsightly icons for eternity... thankyouthankyouthankyou!
You are acting as if the medium icons are way too big. The large ones really are, but the medium ones? C'mon!
And the small ones are just ridiculously small.

funrush

Jun 15, 2011, 11:31 AM

You are acting as if ... C'mon! ...

You're not being nice.

Lord Appleseed

Jun 15, 2011, 11:40 AM

You're not being nice.

Neither am I being not-nice.

I fail to see any insult or bad behavior in my comment. I was merely pointing out that he might be a bit overreacting with the icon sizes.

emdubb

Jun 15, 2011, 11:49 AM

Lord Appleseed

Jun 15, 2011, 12:06 PM

I don't think you have any room to say whether I'm reacting within any norms. I use small icons in Mail.app. I was no longer able to. It was annoying me and obviously annoying me enough that I posted about it. They size of the icons don't bother you. Congratulations. What does? Maybe I'll say you're overreacting to that and we can call it even.

Or you can accept that some things are important to other people and not yourself, and that's perfectly fine.

Seriously are you are acting as if you are new to the internet. Not every comment, especially one that was directed to one so weirdly written as yours, is meant to be insulting or evil. I didn't intend to attack you in any way, I just found it rather amusing how you expressed your feelings about the sizes. But now you are making it more personal with your behavior that is most definitely sounding insulting.
I'm sorry if you misunderstood me, but you try not to take everything so seriously. No one wants to harm you, also i do accept that this is important to you, as I read your post before it had a reply and was about to figure out a solution for you.

Cougarcat

Jun 15, 2011, 01:08 PM

Of course it will come with some backup media, either disc or usb (like with the MBA)

Of course? I wouldn't be so sure. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's decided the restore partition is enough, and for everything else, you should take it to them.

Lord Appleseed

Jun 15, 2011, 01:11 PM

Of course? I wouldn't be so sure. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's decided the restore partition is enough, and for everything else, you should take it to them.

That doesn't sound very Apple like. They always give you some sort of Restore and Backup Media. I am totally sure we'll get a Backup disc like usual, or a usb like with the Air.

cmaier

Jun 15, 2011, 02:16 PM

That doesn't sound very Apple like. They always give you some sort of Restore and Backup Media. I am totally sure we'll get a Backup disc like usual, or a usb like with the Air.

You won't "get one," though they may have something in the OS to let you create one. (There are already instructions on the net floating around for how to do this - it's pretty easy.)

Amberfool

Jun 15, 2011, 04:17 PM

That doesn't sound very Apple like. They always give you some sort of Restore and Backup Media. I am totally sure we'll get a Backup disc like usual, or a usb like with the Air.

I'm totally sure that you won't. They may give you the option to create one yourself, but I'm around 95% certain that they won't be shipping them with computers. Why, because after making a big thing about there being no Lion disks available to consumers, it would be redundant to then offer disks. Apple will obviously create some way for the people buying Lion through the MAS to re-install it if their computers crash or something, most likely tied to the apple account used to purchase Lion in the first place, and I would assume that any new Mac customers would use the same method as well

bushido

Jun 15, 2011, 05:39 PM

iTunes 10.5beta and Safari still hate each other in FullScreenMode with one of them suddenly turning into a gray fullscreenwindow bringing me back to the 1st desktop :mad:

markrox7

Jun 15, 2011, 09:31 PM

Is Spotlight quicker? Because in SL it sometimes lags a few seconds when I bring it up and the first couple of letters I type don't always show up. Is this fixed?

hellomoto4

Jun 16, 2011, 02:02 AM

Is Spotlight quicker? Because in SL it sometimes lags a few seconds when I bring it up and the first couple of letters I type don't always show up. Is this fixed?

On my Late 2008 2.0GHz Macbook with 4GB RAM, this is not fixed, and it's extremely annoying.

richard.mac

Jun 16, 2011, 02:40 AM

Is Spotlight quicker? Because in SL it sometimes lags a few seconds when I bring it up and the first couple of letters I type don't always show up. Is this fixed?

in my experience it lags a little longer and Spotlight only lags sometimes for me in SL after the first search.

Lord Appleseed

Jun 16, 2011, 02:43 AM

I'm totally sure that you won't. They may give you the option to create one yourself, but I'm around 95% certain that they won't be shipping them with computers. Why, because after making a big thing about there being no Lion disks available to consumers, it would be redundant to then offer disks. Apple will obviously create some way for the people buying Lion through the MAS to re-install it if their computers crash or something, most likely tied to the apple account used to purchase Lion in the first place, and I would assume that any new Mac customers would use the same method as well

I still don't believe that they won't put in a simple BackUp disc.
But we'll see for sure next month...I am excited about the final release.

baryon

Jun 16, 2011, 03:16 AM

Can someone confirm that in Lion, the HOSTS file can still be edited like in Snow Leopard? I need this as I don't want to use a firewall program.

superericla

Jun 16, 2011, 03:29 AM

Is Spotlight quicker? Because in SL it sometimes lags a few seconds when I bring it up and the first couple of letters I type don't always show up. Is this fixed?

Personally I just use Alfred and switch the keyboard shortcut to bring it up to the same as spotlight's. Alfred works a lot quicker and has more functionality and it's free.

Lord Appleseed

Jun 16, 2011, 03:33 AM

So does anyone already know what the Update for DP4 changed? Except of course the obvious change for the LogIn-Screen...
I have the feeling that scrolling is smoother now.

fredcintra

Jun 16, 2011, 08:45 AM

So does anyone already know what the Update for DP4 changed? Except of course the obvious change for the LogIn-Screen...
I have the feeling that scrolling is smoother now.

http://itsalltech.com/2011/06/15/apple-releases-mac-os-x-lion-developer-preview-4-update/

Takuro

Jun 16, 2011, 12:29 PM

Can someone confirm that in Lion, the HOSTS file can still be edited like in Snow Leopard? I need this as I don't want to use a firewall program.

Yes, it can be edited. I mean... as long as you have access to /etc/hosts. I don't know why or if Apple would ever disable functionality of something that's considered such a standard to operating systems in general. Even Windows has a hosts file. :)

DocNYz

Jun 16, 2011, 02:18 PM

On my Late 2008 2.0GHz Macbook with 4GB RAM, this is not fixed, and it's extremely annoying.

I recommend booting off of an SSD in the expansion slot or a large SD if you only have space for an SD card, it really speeds things up in the older models.

k4show

Jun 16, 2011, 02:58 PM

I can't get to the dock when using safari full screen.

Cougarcat

Jun 16, 2011, 03:15 PM

I can't get to the dock when using safari full screen.

I believe that's by design. Edit: nevermind, it does appear, but it takes a second. It think thats to ensure you don't make it appear by accident.

Amberfool

Jun 16, 2011, 03:19 PM

I believe that's by design.

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that the dock and toolbars are still there, but they only show when you move your mouse over them. Have they not allowed that in safari?

mrapplegate

Jun 16, 2011, 03:25 PM

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that the dock and toolbars are still there, but they only show when you move your mouse over them. Have they not allowed that in safari?

The dock is not visible on mouseover. The menubar is available on mouseover in apps in full screen mode.

BLACKFRIDAY

Jun 16, 2011, 03:32 PM

Renaming flags:

TI_UK-iMac:~ BLACKFRIDAY$ defaults write ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist "FlagNames" -dict \
> "0" -string "High Priority" \
> "1" -string "Work" \
> "2" -string "Hold" \
> "3" -string "Misson Accomplished" \
> "4" -string "See Later" \
> "5" -string "S.T.F.U." \
> "6" -string "Useless"

Default flag:

TI_UK-iMac:~ BLACKFRIDAY$ defaults write ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist \ "FlagColorToDisplay" 1

DocNYz

Jun 16, 2011, 04:16 PM

About 5 min. for a 500GB drive.

That's good to know, in SL it took about 30-45 for my 500GB a couple weeks ago ...

mrapplegate

Jun 16, 2011, 04:24 PM

That's good to know, in SL it took about 30-45 for my 500GB a couple weeks ago ...

My drive is 7200RPM, but I do not know how much that should effect the check.

Apple Expert

Jun 16, 2011, 07:12 PM

Does anyone have the new lion login image formatted for the iPad? I think it will good as a wallpaper.

celticpride678

Jun 16, 2011, 08:20 PM

Does anyone have the new lion login image formatted for the iPad? I think it will good as a wallpaper.

The background image used on the login screen is tiled, meaning the image file itself contains a small picture.

Resizing it would pixelate the image too much.

ErikGrim

Jun 16, 2011, 08:23 PM

The background image used on the login screen is tiled, meaning the image file itself contains a small picture.

Resizing it would pixelate the image too much.

Or, you know, just either screenshot it or take the tile and tile it in Photoshop :p

In fact, here, let me do that for you:

One for your iPad (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19955/lion-bts-1024x1024.png)
…and one for your desktop (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19955/lion-bts-1920x1200.png)

winterquilt

Jun 17, 2011, 09:00 AM

Does anyone have the new lion login image formatted for the iPad? I think it will good as a wallpaper.

Try this, is beautiful and comes for all iOS devices, check out his other another version too, is brown:

http://hellishere-12.deviantart.com/art/Fabric-2-213228301

Apple Expert

Jun 17, 2011, 09:04 AM

Try this, is beautiful and comes for all iOS devices, check out his other another version too, is brown:

http://hellishere-12.deviantart.com/art/Fabric-2-213228301

Thank you. Can you please post it as I don't have a computer to download it. :(

iL15hts

Jun 17, 2011, 10:55 AM

i don't know if anyone posted this. in quicktime if you click hold-click the scrollbar in quicktime, it expands. (in Frames i think)

baryon

Jun 17, 2011, 11:34 AM

i don't know if anyone posted this. in quicktime if you click hold-click the scrollbar in quicktime, it expands. (in Frames i think)

Basically it zooms in onto a portion of the timeline for precision scrubbing? That's amazing!

baryon

Jun 17, 2011, 11:50 AM

Someone please answer this question:

Are there any bugs in Spaces and Mission Control when using Adobe Flash CS5 or Adobe Photoshop CS5? In Snow Leopard, Exposé and Spaces caused horrible and extreme bugs with these applications.

Sorry for the huge letters, but I have asked this about 10 times already and no one has answered.

iL15hts

Jun 17, 2011, 11:58 AM

In finder, if you choose Icon view then set the arrange by: kind (or anything except name) there's a mini coverflow

Sky Blue

Jun 17, 2011, 12:55 PM

vemssi

Jun 17, 2011, 01:27 PM

I think there is a bug with FileVault and it's associated login. If you have FV on and you turn on the computer it will ask you your password. But no matter what setting you have for your keyboard layout, the login prompt uses US keyboard. Took me quite a while to figure out why it didn't accept my password… :D Anyone else noticed this on DP4 upd 1?

Heilage

Jun 17, 2011, 01:40 PM

The lack of configurability is quite extreme in Lion. You can't choose any of the gestures, or hardly any keyboard shortcuts. It's all the way Steve wants it to be...

Annoying.

baryon

Jun 17, 2011, 02:49 PM

Might help if you describe the bugs. I have Photoshop installed in DP4 Update 1 right now.
How Can I reproduce these bugs?

Basically, in Snow Leopard, when you have Photoshop open with various palettes, and you do a simple Show Desktop or Exposé, some of the palettes stay where they are (sometimes). Try this with the Application Frame on and off (Window > Application Frame). Also, when opening Photoshop in one space, then causing a progress dialog to appear (one that says "Reading Photoshop Format" with a progress bar, for example), and then - once the document is open - switching to another space, causes all future progress dialogs to still appear in the first space, yanking you back to that space each time.

Try moving Photoshop around from one space to another, and having multiple open documents. Try moving one document to one space, and another to another.

In Flash CS5, doing a Show Desktop doesn't always work: the whole app just stays where it is, but becomes unresponsive afterwards, requiring you to click outside the app (which is hard since you can't show the desktop) and click back inside again. Also, while doing an Exposé, some grey rectangles show up, presumably the "backgrounds" of the palettes, and behave like separate windows. When moving Flash from one space to the other, only some of the window gets moved, and parts of it get left behind in the old space. Flash is way more buggy than Photoshop, though.

Thanks for your help!

Sky Blue

Jun 17, 2011, 05:09 PM

sorry, had to re-image the Mac. Will try to look at it next week.

winterquilt

Jun 17, 2011, 11:07 PM

Thank you. Can you please post it as I don't have a computer to download it. :(

Not sure what you mean but the direct download link is here:

http://www.deviantart.com/download/213228301/fabric_2_by_hellishere_12-d3iy80d.rar

A background you might find funny:

http://www.elpinchodesigns.com/MacMod/fondo-de-escritorio-volver-a-el-mac/

jeanlain

Jun 18, 2011, 01:09 AM

i don't know if anyone posted this. in quicktime if you click hold-click the scrollbar in quicktime, it expands. (in Frames i think)
Noticed that from day one with DP1. I don't find it very useful to be honest. It's disturbing.
A related change: when you do a 2-finger scroll one the QTP window while playing a movie, a slider replaces the controls and shows the current playback speed.

Solowalker

Jun 18, 2011, 11:13 AM

Remember the "cut and paste" replacement in the Finder? Copy, then Command Option V for "Move here."

Just found a similar option for merging. Copy, then Command Option Shift V. The Edit menu calls it "Paste Item Exactly." Pastes (doesn't move) but alerts you of a folder of the same name and gives you the option to "Keep both" which will merge unique items. Not quite as simple or elegant as I'd expect, but it's at least there.

jeanlain

Jun 18, 2011, 01:57 PM

You can no browse search results in column view. :eek:
I don't think it has been mentioned before.

elvineet

Jun 19, 2011, 11:39 AM

Apologies if this has been said in the previous 43 pages, but I am too excited to not post it - iCal FINALLY lets you make text bigger using ⌘+

One of those annoying things Apple waited to fix till Steve felt like it :cool:

Drag'nGT

Jun 19, 2011, 12:32 PM

baryon

Jun 19, 2011, 01:29 PM

I just missed a birthday because I forgot that some moron didn't think people would like an alert option in iCal to remind them about the birthday.

Has the issue of birthdays in Address Book to iCal events been fixed? I see no reason to needlessly and manually make another calendar so I can set up birthday alerts.

Thank you to whoever can answer this. It blows my mind that this is still an issue.

The Address Book thing never worked for me. Why not just make a new event that repeats yearly, with an alert?

I know it's annoying that you can't easily do this though, I'd love a way to quickly type in 20 birthday dates and have the software take care of the alerts...

wesleyh

Jun 19, 2011, 02:09 PM

Any improvement in random external HD access? I get this all the time, and it's blocking everything for 10 seconds whilst the HD spins up. Someone please submit that as a bug.

C64

Jun 19, 2011, 02:10 PM

Try this, is beautiful and comes for all iOS devices, check out his other another version too, is brown:

http://hellishere-12.deviantart.com/art/Fabric-2-213228301
Awesome!

winterquilt

Jun 19, 2011, 03:58 PM

Great news (I can't believe nobody's mentioned this already) but Safari now makes the Sessions extension redundant as it remembers the last open Tab(s).... but not only that, but their H I S T O R Y !!

yesss, at last!

Funny how Apple come late to the show and make you think they're great.

baryon

Jun 19, 2011, 04:07 PM

Any improvement in random external HD access? I get this all the time, and it's blocking everything for 10 seconds whilst the HD spins up. Someone please submit that as a bug.

Lion does that too? That's damn annoying, I have that on Snow Leopard as well. My external spins up for things such as selecting text in Safari, scrolling, clicking an icon, or even going into the menu. There's nothing on that HD apart from video files, there's no explanation as to why it need to spin the drive up at all...

Takuro

Jun 19, 2011, 07:24 PM

I just noticed a cool new feature in Mail, or rather, I should say a system-wide feature.

I had an email confirming a shipment I made with Amazon. In addition to detecting phone numbers and dates, it seems Lion has system-wide recognition for shipment tracking numbers as part of its smart “data detection” mechanisms. When I clicked it, Quicklook opened a mini Safari window with UPS’s package tracking website automatically opened.

Very cool stuff.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1290/screenshot20110619at825.th.png (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1290/screenshot20110619at825.png)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1290/screenshot20110619at825.th.png (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1290/screenshot20110619at825.png)

celticpride678

Jun 19, 2011, 07:26 PM

I just noticed a cool new feature in Mail, or rather, I should say a system-wide feature.

I had an email confirming a shipment I made with Amazon. In addition to detecting phone numbers and dates, it seems Lion has system-wide recognition for shipment tracking numbers as part of its smart “data detection” mechanisms. When I clicked it, Quicklook opened a mini Safari window with UPS’s package tracking website automatically opened.

Very cool stuff.

I think that has been there since Snow Leopard, if not Leopard.

Takuro

Jun 19, 2011, 07:37 PM

I think that has been there since Snow Leopard, if not Leopard.

I hadn’t noticed this before in Snow Leopard. I googled it, and the only result for “data detector” and “track shipment” was a new feature that came into iOS 4. I didn’t see anything about Macs having this capability too, and since SL came out in 2009 before iOS 4, it’s possible it didn’t have it.

Cougarcat

Jun 19, 2011, 07:54 PM

Data detectors are in Snow Leopard, but the tracking number detection is new.

CTU Kyoto

Jun 20, 2011, 06:25 AM

Data detectors are in Snow Leopard, but the tracking number detection is new.

If it's anything like the current detection in iOS, it's worthless to users outside the US. Getting deliveries from Amazon here in Germany inevitably involves DHL, and the only thing I've ever got out of tapping on a DHL shipment number in a mail on my iPhone is a Not Found page on FedEx's US site.

I would say that for this feature to be useful, there needs to be an option in Settings to choose a default shipment tracking company.

nomanstool

Jun 21, 2011, 02:33 AM

guys can I ask which services can you sync addressbook and ical with? in snow leopard you have exchange, yahoo, and google, did they add live.com yet, like they did in iOS?

funrush

Jun 21, 2011, 08:08 AM

guys can I ask which services can you sync addressbook and ical with? in snow leopard you have exchange, yahoo, and google, did they add live.com yet, like they did in iOS?

Address Book

http://f.cl.ly/items/1X0f3L3X0q2V0L0l3p1b/Screen%20Shot%202011-06-21%20at%2015.05.17.png

iCal

http://f.cl.ly/items/1o3W0W10270i1D0D2e0I/Screen%20Shot%202011-06-21%20at%2015.04.39.png

nomanstool

Jun 21, 2011, 08:20 AM

thanks @funrush

does live.com works like exchange?

Kahnyl

Jun 21, 2011, 03:48 PM

If it's anything like the current detection in iOS, it's worthless to users outside the US. Getting deliveries from Amazon here in Germany inevitably involves DHL, and the only thing I've ever got out of tapping on a DHL shipment number in a mail on my iPhone is a Not Found page on FedEx's US site.

I would say that for this feature to be useful, there needs to be an option in Settings to choose a default shipment tracking company.

Most of my deliveries here in Ireland are done by UPS and the data detectors are hugely useful. I'm not sure if I've used the feature with DHL packages but I don't remember ever being sent to a US site.

Kahnyl

Jun 21, 2011, 03:50 PM

The lack of configurability is quite extreme in Lion.

I think they added an uncharacteristic amount of configurability throughout the OS actually.

winterquilt

Jun 22, 2011, 05:15 AM

I think they added an uncharacteristic amount of configurability throughout the OS actually.

Plus all the Terminal stuff that's always been there.

Badbaw

Jun 22, 2011, 04:02 PM

Are there any new UI tweaks?

LazyMacGuy

Jun 23, 2011, 08:50 AM

Are there any new UI tweaks?

A few, mainly within finder

karan1686

Jun 23, 2011, 01:22 PM

markrox7

Jun 23, 2011, 02:48 PM

will the old iLife (2009) suite have full screen support? How about the current iWork (2009)?

mrapplegate

Jun 23, 2011, 03:09 PM

will the old iLife (2009) suite have full screen support? How about the current iWork (2009)?
No. The programs need to be written to support the new Lion API. Eventually Apple will update.

wesleyh

Jun 24, 2011, 04:53 AM

Can anyone tell me, a finder opened in icon view, if you resize the finder or the icon size, will the icons take up the extra space (reposition themselves?)

innominato5090

Jun 24, 2011, 02:17 PM

Can anyone tell me, a finder opened in icon view, if you resize the finder or the icon size, will the icons take up the extra space (reposition themselves?)

don't worry: the finder now behaves correctly when you resize icons
http://sldn.info/LdQ6

ajcrow93

Jun 24, 2011, 10:13 PM

Did a quick search but could not find anything so apologies if already mentioned. But just noticed that when my iMac is waken from sleep by my apple tv or iPad, the iMac screen remains off, which is great as on SL it would turn the display on every time.

Any one else notice this?

Yeah. I remember reading somewhere on apples website about that. It's the same for any remote network access aparently.

CarbonDudeoxide

Jun 25, 2011, 04:17 AM

To anybody running the latest preview build of OSX Lion

Is the hidden 'suck' effect still available when minimizing applications?

wesleyh

Jun 25, 2011, 04:38 AM

don't worry: the finder now behaves correctly when you resize icons
http://sldn.info/LdQ6

Great thanks so much! Is the behavior the same when you resize the finder window itself?

innominato5090

Jun 25, 2011, 04:43 AM

Great thanks so much! Is the behavior the same when you resize the finder window itself?

yes

damson34

Jun 25, 2011, 06:29 AM

I don't know if tis has been posted before but I was really upset that they took out the gesture for application expose in the dock until i accidentally double tapped the a program in the dock and it went to app expose!!

tkermit

Jun 25, 2011, 06:56 AM

don't worry: the finder now behaves correctly when you resize icons
http://sldn.info/LdQ6

How is that different from Snow Leopard?

innominato5090

Jun 25, 2011, 07:18 AM

How is that different from Snow Leopard?

in snow leopard the icons don't get rearranged. they simply scales up, and scrollbars appears.

tkermit

Jun 25, 2011, 07:25 AM

in snow leopard the icons don't get rearranged. they simply scales up, and scrollbars appears.

Not if you've chosen to have the icons automatically arranged. So is this simply a change in the default setting?

http://f.cl.ly/items/2A1e2O1Z3R2h2S3v3r0h/inf.jpg

Takuro

Jun 25, 2011, 06:57 PM

in snow leopard the icons don't get rearranged. they simply scales up, and scrollbars appears.

I'm going to have to say Snow Leopard and maybe even as far back as Tiger behaved this way. As said, having auto-arrange re-positions the icons according to the grid layout.

markrox7

Jun 25, 2011, 10:30 PM

does the green resize button in the corner of windows resize them normally now?

Takuro

Jun 25, 2011, 11:17 PM

does the green resize button in the corner of windows resize them normally now?

No, but there are a lot of tools that will help you do that. The most lightweight and non-intrusive tool I've used that does this is SizeWell, which is free. Set the default behavior for the zoom button to do a full screen resize. The other nice plus is it lets you enable to disable Lion's zooming animation, which is a little jagged on bigger screens.

winterquilt

Jun 26, 2011, 12:17 AM

Personally I think the new top right Full Screen mode button is necessary, it should be the "+" green button's job to do this. That green button's always bee wrong.

winterquilt

Jun 26, 2011, 02:13 AM

don't worry: the finder now behaves correctly when you resize icons
http://sldn.info/LdQ6

I just read this and didn't notice the effect you said, I have DP4. In fact I think I found a bug? I have a folder of icons, but have customised it's background to be black, as Lion is simplified even further than usual the Status Bar is missing (the slide rule for this task would then be absent), so, when I enable it the background turns white!

Should that happen? I find the option to turn the Status Bar off in SL greyed out.

mike423

Jun 26, 2011, 11:27 AM

celticpride678

Jun 26, 2011, 11:29 AM

Guys,

I have a black macbook, and im gonna post a screen shot of about my mac, I need someone to tell me if i can upgrade it to lion with this, if not then what changes do i have to make in order to upgrade to lion.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Mike...

You need 1 GB more of RAM, I believe. And at least a Core 2 Duo processor.

mrapplegate

Jun 26, 2011, 11:32 AM

Guys,

I have a black macbook, and im gonna post a screen shot of about my mac, I need someone to tell me if i can upgrade it to lion with this, if not then what changes do i have to make in order to upgrade to lion.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Mike...

Nope. According to Apple (http://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/).....Your Mac must have an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor to run Lion.

Buying a new machine is what you will need to do.

mike423

Jun 26, 2011, 11:54 AM

Nope. According to Apple (http://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/).....Your Mac must have an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor to run Lion.

Buying a new machine is what you will need to do.

Are you kidding me? are you really serious? or can I install these rams and cores in this one..

WiBu

Jun 26, 2011, 11:57 AM

Are you kidding me? are you really serious? or can I install these rams and cores in this one..

Officially Core Duos are not supported, but I remember reading about people installing and running Lion DPs on them just fine.

You can't upgrade your CPU, but you can upgrade your RAM. You will definitely want to at least double your RAM.

markrox7

Jun 26, 2011, 12:03 PM

any new effects in photo booth?

celticpride678

Jun 26, 2011, 12:04 PM

any new effects in photo booth?

Other than the face tracking ones, no.

mrapplegate

Jun 26, 2011, 12:05 PM

any new effects in photo booth?

There are the silly birds & hearts floating above your head and others. I don't use it often.

mrapplegate

Jun 26, 2011, 12:07 PM

Are you kidding me? are you really serious? or can I install these rams and cores in this one..

Like others have said I have seen threads on here about others getting it to run on older systems. Buyer be ware if you try to install. As others have mentioned you can't upgrade your processor, you have to buy a new machine. Sorry.

mike423

Jun 26, 2011, 01:34 PM

Like others have said I have seen threads on here about others getting it to run on older systems. Buyer be ware if you try to install. As others have mentioned you can't upgrade your processor, you have to buy a new machine. Sorry.

omg im doomed...I just got ipad 2 and ipod 4g couple of days back...:(:(:(:(:(:(

is there another way......

SideStepSociety

Jun 26, 2011, 01:39 PM

Install DP1, works on Core Duos by removing the PlatformSupport plist.

mrapplegate

Jun 26, 2011, 01:47 PM

omg im doomed...I just got ipad 2 and ipod 4g couple of days back...:(:(:(:(:(:(

is there another way......

Search the forums (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1107457), I have not been following the topics much, but it seems it is possible.

iThinkergoiMac

Jun 26, 2011, 02:25 PM

omg im doomed...I just got ipad 2 and ipod 4g couple of days back...:(:(:(:(:(:(

is there another way......

No, there is not. It is impossible to upgrade the processor without a piece of machinery so complex and expensive that, if you had one, you wouldn't be worrying about the cost of a silly little MacBook ;)

baryon

Jun 26, 2011, 03:45 PM

Personally I think the new top right Full Screen mode button is necessary, it should be the "+" green button's job to do this. That green button's always bee wrong.

I wish they just got rid of that stupid green button. It's hit or miss, sometimes it works, but most of the time it just screws up your window, like in Safari. It should do Full Screen instead, with it being disabled on apps that don't have full screen mode.

Takuro

Jun 26, 2011, 07:45 PM

I have a black macbook, and im gonna post a screen shot of about my mac, I need someone to tell me if i can upgrade it to lion...
Pretty much any machine you buy from Apple would blow away what you have. No offense, but those are some of the lowest specs I've seen in a MacBook in a very long time. You are long overdue for an upgrade.

Get a refurb if you want to save a lot of money. You might also get a couple hundred bucks for your old MacBook.

The alternative is to hack Lion to run on your CPU, which some of the more advanced users on this forum were struggling a lot with. Assuming you aren't technically inclined, I wouldn't even consider this an option.

Farthen

Jun 26, 2011, 08:14 PM

I wish they just got rid of that stupid green button. It's hit or miss, sometimes it works, but most of the time it just screws up your window, like in Safari. It should do Full Screen instead, with it being disabled on apps that don't have full screen mode.

If all App developers would have complied to the HIG this inconsequent behavior would not exist:

If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 pixels, the new size and location is the user state.The user can toggle between the standard state and the user state by clicking the zoom button. When the user clicks the zoom button of a window in the user state, your application should first determine the appropriate size of the standard state. Move the window as little as possible to make it the standard size, and keep the entire window on the screen. The zoom button should not cause the window to fill the entire screen unless that was the last state the user set.

This makes perfect sense as the window resizes just as much as needed for the content displayed in the window.

D'oh, the fight for the green button is long lost anyway. Why am I wasting my time?

TuffLuffJimmy

Jun 26, 2011, 09:20 PM

If all App developers would have complied to the HIG this inconsequent behavior would not exist:Apple doesn't even follow their own guidelines. Just look at iPhoto, calculator, XCode, etc.

This makes perfect sense as the window resizes just as much as needed for the content displayed in the window.If only Apple would communicate with their users that this is the intended purpose and if Apple would take the time to make sure the button isn't as buggy as it is. I've had very inconsistent effects when using the button with Safari and the Finder.

D'oh, the fight for the green button is long lost anyway. Why am I wasting my time?Meh, I never use the button any way.

mike423

Jun 27, 2011, 01:47 AM

jayhawk11

Jun 27, 2011, 09:38 AM

Which one is the best? And which one will install lion?

2.3GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

Or

INTEL CORE 2. DUO* 2* . 4** 2GB** 250 GB*****

DVD±RW** 13.3 WSXGA** TB*WIFI*256 SHD*******

What do you guys think?

Are you seriously asking this question?

Get 2.3 Core i5 with 4GB of RAM. That's the current model. And try looking at Apple.com before you spaz out in a forum.

mike423

Jun 27, 2011, 10:22 AM

Are you seriously asking this question?

Get 2.3 Core i5 with 4GB of RAM. That's the current model. And try looking at Apple.com before you spaz out in a forum.

Yea I was seriously asking this coz I know very little about specs so I wanted help and thanks to you I'll go with the one you said :cool:

Peace and thanks to all.

cjjr72984

Jun 27, 2011, 01:29 PM

For all of those that have been using Safari on 10.7, do you guys notice if gifs show up as fast as they do on Chrome and Firefox?

Always annoyed me how slow gifs looked on Safari:

Such as this one ---->http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/cgavio1/t65p5g.gif

mrapplegate

Jun 27, 2011, 01:39 PM

For all of those that have been using Safari on 10.7, do you guys notice if gifs show up as fast as they do on Chrome and Firefox?

Always annoyed me how slow gifs looked on Safari:

Such as this one ---->Image (http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/cgavio1/t65p5g.gif)

It looks like a short movie clip, not an animated gif. Smooth and not slow at all.

cjjr72984

Jun 27, 2011, 01:52 PM

It looks like a short movie clip, not an animated gif. Smooth and not slow at all.

Yes! Good to hear :D Looks like Apple made sure to improve the speed of Safari in many different ways. I officially can't wait until Lion releases now.

Thanks for the reply mrapplegate.

mrapplegate

Jun 27, 2011, 01:57 PM

Yes! Good to hear :D Looks like Apple made sure to improve the speed of Safari in many different ways. I officially can't wait until Lion releases now.

Thanks for the reply mrapplegate.

No problem. They still have a lot of work to do, but gifs play well :D

cjjr72984

Jun 27, 2011, 03:10 PM

No problem. They still have a lot of work to do, but gifs play well :D

So what have you found that's wrong with Safari in Lion?

mrapplegate

Jun 27, 2011, 03:35 PM

So what have you found that's wrong with Safari in Lion?

Oh sorry, I meant the OS in general still needs some work. Safari in DP4 works well for me actually. Some have had issues with gestures, but it is an improvement since DP3.

baryon

Jun 27, 2011, 03:51 PM

If all App developers would have complied to the HIG this inconsequent behavior would not exist:
[...]
This makes perfect sense as the window resizes just as much as needed for the content displayed in the window.

D'oh, the fight for the green button is long lost anyway. Why am I wasting my time?

Yeah but look at Safari: press the green button and what happens? The window goes tiny and off-screen in the bottom left corner. And I know this isn't a bug on my system as I have been able to reproduce it on a Tiger machine as well as on another Snow Leopard machine. And I'v never seen it work in Safari! Press it again and the window becomes tall and thinner than it was originally, and you have to manually reposition and re-resize the window to get it right again.

Apple doesn't even pay attention to this, and if even they don't care, they should at least remove the button altogether as all it does it waste pixels and cause people to accidentally click it and screw up their window configuration. And that would free up some space, which would be a perfect place for the Full Screen button (if you ask me it could still be green with a + sign in it, instead of two arrows).

superericla

Jun 27, 2011, 11:19 PM

I'm not sure how new this is for Lion but I just got the MacBook Pro 2.1 EFI update in software update running Lion.

celticpride678

Jun 27, 2011, 11:26 PM

I'm not sure how new this is for Lion but I just got the MacBook Pro 2.1 EFI update in software update running Lion.

The one released in May?

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1381

superericla

Jun 27, 2011, 11:28 PM

The one released in May?

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1381

Yes. That's the one. I haven't had it show up in software update while running Lion until just now though and trying to install it previously by downloading it from Apple's website would state it's incompatible.

winterquilt

Jun 28, 2011, 03:50 AM

Yeah but look at Safari: press the green button and what happens? The window goes tiny and off-screen in the bottom left corner. And I know this isn't a bug on my system as I have been able to reproduce it on a Tiger machine as well as on another Snow Leopard machine. And I'v never seen it work in Safari! Press it again and the window becomes tall and thinner than it was originally, and you have to manually reposition and re-resize the window to get it right again.

Apple doesn't even pay attention to this, and if even they don't care, they should at least remove the button altogether as all it does it waste pixels and cause people to accidentally click it and screw up their window configuration. And that would free up some space, which would be a perfect place for the Full Screen button (if you ask me it could still be green with a + sign in it, instead of two arrows).

I noticed this! I thought it was a bug, I've never come across this on either Leopard or Snow Leopard, it's got to be a bug. I don't think Apple should get rid of the green button by the way, I still am in favour of them using it for full screen.

jjatie

Jun 28, 2011, 08:00 AM

Unfortunately not. It just removes the app files, nothing more. Application Support files stay untouched...

Instead, Apple is "encouraging" dev's to keep app support data organized like it is in iOS, and they said in about 6 months after ship date it will be required that this implemented in all App Store submissions. When this is done, then Launchpad will act as the uninstaller we all hoped and dreamed for for so many years.

This was addressed in the State of the Union address at WWDC this year.

sheepopo39

Jun 28, 2011, 04:14 PM

Apple has removed support for their USB External Modem in Lion DP4, it was working in previous versions.

CavemanUK

Jun 29, 2011, 02:10 AM

If you have a file that doesn't have an associated program to open it (for example .rar), pressing right mouse button on it and choosing app store takes you right to apps that will open it! even free ones! very cool.

DoFoT9

Jun 29, 2011, 02:44 AM

Takuro

Jun 29, 2011, 08:43 PM

ive not read the entire thread, but has anybody had any luck getting DP4 to install/upgrade using an iMac 2011 machine (12,1 or 12,2) + latest vmware?!

i have been trying for days, and there is no possible way from what i can see. ideas? :confused:

1) If you're going to ask a question, do it in the appropriate thread. This definitely isn't it. You probably chose it out of laziness since it's a sticky with lots of activity, hoping somebody would answer.

2) Write your questions better. I think you're asking about two totally different things: Installing DP4, and then installing VMWare on it once it's done. Writing "+ vmware" could also mean you're trying to install DP4 onto VMware. Again, don't be lazy...

flat five

Jun 29, 2011, 10:34 PM

Another thing it's built into Mac os X now, you can navigate the options pressing the tab key, also another hint, almost always there is an alert windows with options like accept or cancel if you hit enter you select accept, and if you hit the spacebar you select cancel!.

In some apps like Photoshop you can select the "Don't save" option by pressing the key D.

Bottom line, enter selects the highlighted button and spacebar selects the border highlighted one, check this example :

Image (http://www.xowave.com/doc/tech-note/images/accept-incoming-network-connections.png)

[maybe this has already been replied to since it was originally posted in feb and i haven't made it all the way through the thread yet... but :D ]

photoshop kinda messed people up on this..
the real way is ⌘D for don't save.. esc for cancel ..return for accept (allow,save,save as..., etc)

(but it appears for the most part, none of this will be necessary in lion with apps tapping in to versioning/autosave)

flat five

Jun 29, 2011, 11:20 PM

I find this a regression. I often pinch to make icons bigger, especially photos. Great feature that is now gone. :(

Sorry but I don't want to resize my icon on the desktop everytime I hit the trackpad.

in SL
system prefs-> trackpad-> two fingers-> pinch open & close

probably the same pref available in lion.
:rolleyes:

DoFoT9

Jun 30, 2011, 03:45 PM

1) If you're going to ask a question, do it in the appropriate thread. This definitely isn't it. You probably chose it out of laziness since it's a sticky with lots of activity, hoping somebody would answer.

2) Write your questions better. I think you're asking about two totally different things: Installing DP4, and then installing VMWare on it once it's done. Writing "+ vmware" could also mean you're trying to install DP4 onto VMware. Again, don't be lazy...

jeh, because i havent been subscribed to this thread since the 27th of feb and havent contributed my fair amount to the forums already.. you are not a moderator, you have no right to tell me what to do.

now, from replying to me like that, you have created negativity in this thread and the flow on effects wont be good. but anyway i guess you dont care about that, so i will rephrase.

i am attempting to install DP4 into a virtual machine using vmware 3.1.3 and am having no luck - if anybody has had any success doing so on an imac 12,1 or 12,2, please let me know :)

celticpride678

Jun 30, 2011, 04:39 PM

jeh, because i havent been subscribed to this thread since the 27th of feb and havent contributed my fair amount to the forums already.. you are not a moderator, you have no right to tell me what to do.

now, from replying to me like that, you have created negativity in this thread and the flow on effects wont be good. but anyway i guess you dont care about that, so i will rephrase.

i am attempting to install DP4 into a virtual machine using vmware 3.1.3 and am having no luck - if anybody has had any success doing so on an imac 12,1 or 12,2, please let me know :)

Yeah, the n00b obviously doesn't know who you are :p

I'm not positive, but doesn't VMware have to be updated to support a new OS?

Daisy123

Jul 1, 2011, 02:49 AM

“The Mac OS X Lion Up-To-Date upgrade is available at no additional charge via the Mac App Store to all customers who purchased a qualifying new Mac system from Apple or an Apple Authorized Reseller on or after June 6, 2011,” the company states.

DoFoT9

Jul 1, 2011, 03:22 AM

Yeah, the n00b obviously doesn't know who you are :p
HAHA! not sure if i should be offended or not ;)

I'm not positive, but doesn't VMware have to be updated to support a new OS?
not that im aware of, i have about 15 other virtual machines with many OSs, they all work fine. its just lion.

silexh

Jul 1, 2011, 03:33 PM

ive not read the entire thread, but has anybody had any luck getting DP4 to install/upgrade using an iMac 2011 machine (12,1 or 12,2) + latest vmware?!

i have been trying for days, and there is no possible way from what i can see. ideas? :confused:

Try This (http://www.r2x2.com/users/lsb/weblog/b41f7/Howto_install_OSX_107_Lion_in_vmware.html)

Edit: oh, and I can confirm it works in Vmware Fusion 3.1.3

Drew017

Jul 1, 2011, 03:37 PM

I think the best new feature in Lion is... I don't know! It's all AWESOME!

tarasis

Jul 1, 2011, 03:40 PM

i am attempting to install DP4 into a virtual machine using vmware 3.1.3 and am having no luck - if anybody has had any success doing so on an imac 12,1 or 12,2, please let me know :)

please start your own thread, this isn't the place to ask that question.

markrox7

Jul 1, 2011, 03:44 PM

Anything new in the GM? Any major or annoying bugs?

8CoreWhore

Jul 1, 2011, 06:58 PM

Yea I was seriously asking this coz I know very little about specs so I wanted help and thanks to you I'll go with the one you said :cool:

Peace and thanks to all.

Don't let chickenhawk get you down. Your question is legit.

KirkL

Jul 1, 2011, 08:46 PM

Any comments on the GM build :D

iL15hts

Jul 1, 2011, 10:13 PM

Any comments on the GM build :D

Bump!

truciet

Jul 2, 2011, 02:19 AM

i just a did a clean install on my macbook pro and it's running like a champ.

so far everything has been running smooth and fast. i love the new animations too. at the moment, i only have iLife 2011 installed. if the GM turns into the retail product, i'll install everything else.

so far though, this GM is great!

iL15hts

Jul 2, 2011, 03:03 AM

mike423

Jul 2, 2011, 07:07 AM

Are you seriously asking this question?

Get 2.3 Core i5 with 4GB of RAM. That's the current model. And try looking at Apple.com before you spaz out in a forum.

Hey check it out just got one an hour ago.

Tell me what you guys think...

monksealpup

Jul 2, 2011, 07:33 AM

I've noticed that here too...Did anybody find out a solution?...

Bump on this for the lack of key repeat issue. Lion pops up accent characters and such (or nothing for letters that don't have any, like f). Wish it'd just type ffffffffffff if I held it down for half a second.

markrox7

Jul 2, 2011, 08:51 AM

When Lion comes out on the App Store, will it download as a clean install?

Sky Blue

Jul 2, 2011, 09:02 AM

When Lion comes out on the App Store, will it download as a clean install?

no, in place.

byron_hinson

Jul 2, 2011, 09:06 AM

Anything new in the GM? Any major or annoying bugs?

Swiping back and forward with magic mouse in safari in the GM seems to cause pages to lockup with non-clickable links for me, got the same issue on two MacBooks with it too so far.

markrox7

Jul 2, 2011, 09:51 AM

no, in place.

so what does that mean? is it necessarily worse than a clean install?

NJRonbo

Jul 2, 2011, 10:54 AM

Asked this elsewhere but it bears repeating...

How confident are all of you that this GM will
support updates through the software update
system?

If this is indeed the final retail version, the
only thing holding me back from installing is
fear that the GM won't have update support.

I am hoping this GM will be the last version
of LION I will have to fully install.

innominato5090

Jul 2, 2011, 11:11 AM

Swiping back and forward with magic mouse in safari in the GM seems to cause pages to lockup with non-clickable links for me, got the same issue on two MacBooks with it too so far.

that's because safari is reloading the page. wait for a second or two and they'll return clickable as always ;)

scottchlee

Jul 2, 2011, 11:25 AM

Has anyone experienced an error when scanning the GM .dmg image to be restored to either an external or flash drive?

friendlybombs

Jul 2, 2011, 12:02 PM

Has anyone experienced an error when scanning the GM .dmg image to be restored to either an external or flash drive?

i did a clean install from an 8gb flash drive and everything works perfectly. lion is awesome.

Takuro

Jul 2, 2011, 03:10 PM

Hey check it out just got one an hour ago.
Tell me what you guys think...

To be honest, I kind of laughed when you went out and bought a machine that had the *exact* specs that somebody else previously recommended. I don’t know whether this was because that model was the best value, or because you were afraid to deviate from instructions. Anyway, thats a pretty nice upgrade from your previous machine and should easily run Lion. But honestly, man, you need to do a little bit of homework on things such as:

What generation of Intel CPU’s are most current, and which family within that generation do you want (i3, i5, and i7.)
What general range of clock speeds (measured in GHz) is considered current, and which suites your needs.
What size (measured in GB) and speed (measured in MHz) of RAM is available on Apple machines, and do you need to upgrade beyond the amount that machines have standard.

All this stuff is readily available on Apple.com’s product pages, laid out nice and neat on the “Technical Specifications” pages. Example: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

If anything confuses you, just search the hardware on Wikipedia and they usually give you a whole list of specifications for the product family, such as for core i5’s and core i7’s. Then, after scoping things out, you will have a ballpark idea of what to look for in a machine, and decide how much you want to spend. Once you understand some of the basic numbers, you walk into any Apple store, find products that have the specs clearly listed near the display, and try them out to see how they feel. Until you do this, they remain meaningless numbers. After experiencing thing firsthand how performance can differ between models, you’ll have an appreciation for what these numbers mean.

If you continue posting blind pleas for assistance in purchasing decisions, people are going to have a field day with you. Sure, what I just described requires probably 1 hour of research and 1 hour testing things in a store, but when you’re throwing down $2k for a computer, it’s sort of justified.

By the way, in order to get the full experience of Lion, you need to go out and buy a 16 core Mac Pro when they come out in a month or so. :D

bushido

Jul 2, 2011, 06:24 PM

maybe a silly question but is the line between windows when u switch between desktops rly supposed to be black? i think i remember it being the same grey pattern as the login screen background in earlier built. i thought it would be back in the final built

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9900/bildschirmfoto20110703u.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/219/bildschirmfoto20110703u.png/)

and on a side note, pages like "redmondpie.com" r still letting my safari freeze up. i always have to force quit and use firefox for pages like those

Sky Blue

Jul 2, 2011, 07:00 PM

so what does that mean? is it necessarily worse than a clean install?

It means it upgrades in place.

canyonblue737

Jul 2, 2011, 07:22 PM

If you want to do a full "clean install" you can download the file from the mac app store and if you right click on it and select "show contents" you will find a .dmg file. If you use Disk Utility to burn that DMG file to a CD or at least a 8 gig flash drive you can then boot from that CD/Flash Drive into the Lion installer and do a full clean install as in the past.

DoFoT9

Jul 2, 2011, 07:32 PM

Try This (http://www.r2x2.com/users/lsb/weblog/b41f7/Howto_install_OSX_107_Lion_in_vmware.html)

Edit: oh, and I can confirm it works in Vmware Fusion 3.1.3

been there, done that. sorry - it doesnt work with 12,1/12,2 imacs :(

ZeD X

Jul 2, 2011, 07:58 PM

maybe a silly question but is the line between windows when u switch between desktops rly supposed to be black? i think i remember it being the same grey pattern as the login screen background in earlier built. i thought it would be back in the final built

Image (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/219/bildschirmfoto20110703u.png/)

It was different in early DP builds.

The black is really not nice.

PowerGamerX

Jul 2, 2011, 10:32 PM

Don't know if it's been mentioned but game performance seems to be worse in 10.7 GM compared to 10.6.8 but better than 10.6.7 was on my 2010 MBP.

necropunk

Jul 2, 2011, 11:44 PM

Hello there,

Can a 1.83 Ghz Intel Core Duo with 2GB of DDR2 SDRAM still run this?

SideStepSociety

Jul 2, 2011, 11:47 PM

It can run DP1.

superericla

Jul 2, 2011, 11:56 PM

Hello there,

Can a 1.83 Ghz Intel Core Duo with 2GB of DDR2 SDRAM still run this?

No. Minimum required specs include a Core 2 Duo.

necropunk

Jul 2, 2011, 11:56 PM

It can run DP1.

Thanks for the advice, but I'm actually looking for a yes/no answer.

Although I've read that the minimum is a Core 2 duo, there's still some people saying that it still can be done with the system specifications I cited.

mike423

Jul 3, 2011, 04:19 AM

To be honest, I kind of laughed when you went out and bought a machine that had the *exact* specs that somebody else previously recommended. I don’t know whether this was because that model was the best value, or because you were afraid to deviate from instructions. Anyway, thats a pretty nice upgrade from your previous machine and should easily run Lion. But honestly, man, you need to do a little bit of homework on things such as:

What generation of Intel CPU’s are most current, and which family within that generation do you want (i3, i5, and i7.)
What general range of clock speeds (measured in GHz) is considered current, and which suites your needs.
What size (measured in GB) and speed (measured in MHz) of RAM is available on Apple machines, and do you need to upgrade beyond the amount that machines have standard.

All this stuff is readily available on Apple.com’s product pages, laid out nice and neat on the “Technical Specifications” pages. Example: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

If anything confuses you, just search the hardware on Wikipedia and they usually give you a whole list of specifications for the product family, such as for core i5’s and core i7’s. Then, after scoping things out, you will have a ballpark idea of what to look for in a machine, and decide how much you want to spend. Once you understand some of the basic numbers, you walk into any Apple store, find products that have the specs clearly listed near the display, and try them out to see how they feel. Until you do this, they remain meaningless numbers. After experiencing thing firsthand how performance can differ between models, you’ll have an appreciation for what these numbers mean.

If you continue posting blind pleas for assistance in purchasing decisions, people are going to have a field day with you. Sure, what I just described requires probably 1 hour of research and 1 hour testing things in a store, but when you’re throwing down $2k for a computer, it’s sort of justified.

By the way, in order to get the full experience of Lion, you need to go out and buy a 16 core Mac Pro when they come out in a month or so. :D

Thanks for all your input. Really appreciated.

What did you mean by "in order to get the full experience of Lion"

Thanks.
:cool:

mike423

Jul 3, 2011, 04:27 AM

Don't let chickenhawk get you down. Your question is legit.

Thanks :)

AdeFowler

Jul 3, 2011, 05:39 AM

Bump on this for the lack of key repeat issue. Lion pops up accent characters and such (or nothing for letters that don't have any, like f). Wish it'd just type ffffffffffff if I held it down for half a second.

And why would you ever want to type ffffffffffff ?

monksealpup

Jul 3, 2011, 05:54 AM

And why would you ever want to type ffffffffffff ?

Maybe I want to hold down 9 and get a bunch of 9s. Maybe I want to type ooooooh? What's it matter why someone would want to type it? The question is, why isn't there an option to enable key repeat (and, if there is, why isn't it right next to the key repeat setting in system prefs?)?

HelveticaNeue

Jul 3, 2011, 06:11 AM

MartiNZ

Jul 3, 2011, 07:55 AM

Maybe I want to hold down 9 and get a bunch of 9s. Maybe I want to type ooooooh? What's it matter why someone would want to type it? The question is, why isn't there an option to enable key repeat (and, if there is, why isn't it right next to the key repeat setting in system prefs?)?

Yeah I was worried about this when I heard about the change they're trying out with Lion. I think that one is going a little too far iO(S)verboard with features better suited to touch - instead it requires mouse interaction if I understand? I think I'd be happier were it left unchanged. Next they'll change copy/paste to the godawful implementation on iOS that we would all be much happier if had never come, ironically.

Lord Appleseed

Jul 3, 2011, 08:05 AM

sine-nomine

Jul 3, 2011, 08:25 AM

So I have a question:

Can I still press Option+e, then type an "e" to get an é like I always have been able to on my Mac? Or is the Option+(character) method now gone, with the "Hold down a character" method completely replacing it?

tkermit

Jul 3, 2011, 08:28 AM

If you really wanted to, couldn't you just type a character, then hold down the Shift key, move the cursor by one character to the left, release the Shift key, hold down the command key, press "c" and then hold down "v" for as long as you like?

(Sounds more complicated than it actually is... :p)

Lord Appleseed

Jul 3, 2011, 08:31 AM

How about pressing "f" 10 times?

http://robsite.net/images/posts/0000/1696/awesome_thumb.gif?1241470987

silexh

Jul 3, 2011, 09:19 AM

been there, done that. sorry - it doesnt work with 12,1/12,2 imacs :(

That's weird. Where does it go wrong?

Edit: Oh, and you might want to start a thread for it ;)

SideStepSociety

Jul 3, 2011, 10:41 AM

Thanks for the advice, but I'm actually looking for a yes/no answer.

Although I've read that the minimum is a Core 2 duo, there's still some people saying that it still can be done with the system specifications I cited.

They're wrong. ;) At least for now. Finder, and most (if not all?) other system applications are 64-bit only now. Your Core Duo is not 64-bit. Even if you did manage to get it to run, like a couple others had, you'd have no Finder, and probably terrible, terrible performance. Won't work until somebody finds a work around.

DP1, however, will work completely and nearly as good as Snow Leopard, in my experience, I might add. :D

markrox7

Jul 3, 2011, 10:44 AM

Will iTunes 10.5 come with Lion? Or will it still be in beta?

spencers

Jul 3, 2011, 10:50 AM

Sky Blue

Jul 3, 2011, 11:06 AM

Will iTunes 10.5 come with Lion? Or will it still be in beta?

Probably be out when iOS 5 is out.

eeyoredragon

Jul 3, 2011, 12:05 PM

About this holding "f" to get "fffffffff" thing: Is it really that annoying to just type fffffffff a few times? Or ooooooh!? it's not like one of you will break his finger when you do that twice a month or so.Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.

kepner

Jul 3, 2011, 12:15 PM

Can I still press Option+e, then type an "e" to get an é like I always have been able to on my Mac?

Yes.

Kahnyl

Jul 3, 2011, 12:26 PM

F

Wait....

Gimme a sec....

F

f.....f

OMG. My internet powers are gone! How will people know when I'm having a spaz attack?

bushido

Jul 3, 2011, 01:33 PM

Yes, it's bloody annoying. Instead of the smart ass remarks, how about a solution?

well its not rly annoying to me as i need the spanish letters a lot. to each their own i guess.

superericla

Jul 3, 2011, 04:42 PM

I'm not sure if this has been in the past builds of Lion or if anyone has noticed it yet but moving windows around while in Mission Control creates a small animation based on where you drag the window to. I took a short screen recording and posted it to youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf97wzDPamc).

djrod

Jul 3, 2011, 05:12 PM

well its not rly annoying to me as i need the spanish letters a lot. to each their own i guess.

for me, being a spaniard is a little bit annoying, funny world

CyBeRino

Jul 3, 2011, 06:03 PM

Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.

It's app-specific. In terminal (which is where you SHOULD be using vi), key repeat works as it always has.

hopejr

Jul 3, 2011, 06:05 PM

Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.

You could always just use the down arrow (yes, I know it's not in the home row, but it works).

tdar

Jul 3, 2011, 06:32 PM

I am not sure if anyone has posted this, but Time Machine has changed aesthetically to look like Versions. The timeline is pink (not green as it appeared in the last DP I saw) and the stars move much more fluidly. There is also an amazing star effect when you move back and forth through time, the stars move really fast almost like you went into warp for a second.

All of the changes are not aesthetic. Lots of changes under the hood as well it seems. I predict we will hear lots of complants about things that used to work that do not work any more. Like network backups that have really never been supported (but people had made them work) and now just do not work. I'll say this, If you want to do your backups over a network...get ready to buy a Time Capsule.

markrox7

Jul 3, 2011, 09:37 PM

having been able to use the GM of Lion, how soon do you think Lion will be released to the public?

PowerGamerX

Jul 3, 2011, 09:42 PM

having been able to use the GM of Lion, how soon do you think Lion will be released to the public?

Could be as early as next week but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes another 2 weeks.

MartiNZ

Jul 3, 2011, 09:59 PM

You could always just use the down arrow (yes, I know it's not in the home row, but it works).

So the arrows are immune to this new system? They will keep scrolling still if held down, not ask you what sort of arrow response you want? :D

Goodness, thinking of that, do the arrows still scroll in the same direction in Lion? It wouldn't surprise me if that were changed along with the mouse wheel thing!

ErikGrim

Jul 4, 2011, 12:02 AM

So the arrows are immune to this new system? They will keep scrolling still if held down, not ask you what sort of arrow response you want? :D

Goodness, thinking of that, do the arrows still scroll in the same direction in Lion? It wouldn't surprise me if that were changed along with the mouse wheel thing!
Arrow scrolling hasn't changed.

PurrBall

Jul 4, 2011, 12:56 AM

Another little thing- When you type the wrong password when doing a "connect as" to a shared machine, the dialog shakes (like the old login window) rather than a sheet dropping down.

ErikGrim

Jul 4, 2011, 01:42 AM

Another little thing- When you type the wrong password when doing a "connect as" to a shared machine, the dialog shakes (like the old login window) rather than a sheet dropping down.

Also happens in authentication dialogs. Been like that since DP1 I believe.

nomanstool

Jul 4, 2011, 07:32 AM

baryon

Jul 4, 2011, 08:35 AM

Solution no. 1: Use text-expander. Set it as if you type ".f" or "dot f" it will expand to fffffffffffffffff, same with os, set it to ".o" and it will expand to oooooooo. There are many text expander for mac, one of the more famous one is this:

http://www.smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/

Solution no. 2.: Use OSX's built in auto correct feature. In Language Text > Text > Symbol and Text Substitions. For the 'replace' column add '.f' without quotes, and on the 'with' column add fffffffff, or whatever number of f's you want. The same method for o.

Now whenever you type .f, it will auto replace to ffffffffffff, its much faster than holding f for a few second IMHO.

But the problem is that the number of "f" express how angry you are, so depending on the situation the amount can be more or less :D

I'm not actually saying this is a problem, just that Apple are taking away a - albeit minimal - degree of flexibility with text.

I personally won't mind as I never hold down keys, I always press them multiple times as the repeat rate is too fast for me to control the exact number.

flat five

Jul 4, 2011, 08:56 AM

So the arrows are immune to this new system?

yeah, a lot of the keys are immune.. for instance, you can still make a line with a single press of the hypen.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

it's only the letters and numbers that won't auto repeat.

for whatever reason, opt-(letter) will still repeat their character.

ååååååååååååååßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂ƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒ©©©©©©©©©©©

Lord Appleseed

Jul 4, 2011, 02:07 PM

Yes, it's bloody annoying. Instead of the smart ass remarks, how about a solution?Hey, you stated it annoyed you but it doest annoy me and most others so how about being a little more tolerant with people who just can follow you?

Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.
Well I have to agree that this is very annoying.

cool11

Jul 4, 2011, 02:35 PM

I hate 'clean install' very much.
After all I think apple itself told that lion will need snow leopard to be installed, in most cases.
I started with tiger many years ago, and now I have sl.
I intend to install lion over it.
Will I see any performance degradation after this procedure?
When I came to mac from pc world, I imagined that I would never do a fresh install of os again. Awful things like format, setup etc.

So, is it wise to install lion over my existing system, or a fresh install (even in mac world) will lead to better os speeds?

Soliber

Jul 4, 2011, 02:59 PM

If you go at it the normal route, you have no choice. You need a running copy of Snow Leopard to be able to download and install Lion.

djrod

Jul 4, 2011, 03:20 PM

markrox7

Jul 4, 2011, 06:32 PM

This has been bugging me… what happens to a full screen app when you quit out of it while its in full screen?

pbls9

Jul 4, 2011, 06:43 PM

This has been bugging me… what happens to a full screen app when you quit out of it while its in full screen?

You are moved automatically to your desktop. The next time you open the app it'll be opened in full screen mode.

markrox7

Jul 5, 2011, 12:56 PM

I haven't seen too much of the new Quick Look. How is it? Pros + cons vs. quick look in SL?

DaffyDuck

Jul 5, 2011, 01:11 PM

I haven't seen too much of the new Quick Look. How is it? Pros + cons vs. quick look in SL?

It doesn't work for me, at least if I am logged into 2 accounts. I haven't tested to see if that is the trigger. Anyway, if I arrow key from one photo to another sometimes it might switch to displaying the new photo but mostly it just shows grey. If I pres space, wait a second, and press space again, it will display the jpg. Scrolling through photos with the arrow key is a no-go.

PurrBall

Jul 5, 2011, 06:57 PM

Cover flow in the common file dialog-

292505

Another: when you update an open app in the app store, it offers to quit it for you (rather than requiring you to close it manually).

nomanstool

Jul 5, 2011, 10:38 PM

But the problem is that the number of "f" express how angry you are, so depending on the situation the amount can be more or less :D

I'm not actually saying this is a problem, just that Apple are taking away a - albeit minimal - degree of flexibility with text.

I personally won't mind as I never hold down keys, I always press them multiple times as the repeat rate is too fast for me to control the exact number.

True, I suggest a different solution then - Anger Management :chuckle:

MartiNZ

Jul 6, 2011, 06:38 AM

Cover flow in the common file dialog-

292505

Another: when you update an open app in the app store, it offers to quit it for you (rather than requiring you to close it manually).

Nice. They seem to add little bits and pieces of Finder-ness to open/save dialogs with every release - I see the path bar in there now too, another nice. Can we do 32x32 icons in list view there? Or sorts in column view? I assume it's still a matter of changing columns that show up and their orders and sizes on a per app basis - that has always been such a pain.

baryon

Jul 6, 2011, 07:12 AM

Nice. They seem to add little bits and pieces of Finder-ness to open/save dialogs with every release - I see the path bar in there now too, another nice. Can we do 32x32 icons in list view there? Or sorts in column view? I assume it's still a matter of changing columns that show up and their orders and sizes on a per app basis - that has always been such a pain.

How about the Open/Save dialog actually remembering the ORDER in which you store your icons in a specific folder? I bet it still can't do that can it? It must be hard to code...

danb77

Jul 6, 2011, 07:17 AM

Preview Print dialogue now has an option to "Print selected Page".

Halleluia! Print selection, Full screen apps, it's like to good old days of Windows 3.1!

Jerome Morrow

Jul 6, 2011, 09:06 AM

I'm mising something or local snapshots for TM are gone in GM?

markrox7

Jul 6, 2011, 01:01 PM

soooooo. when's Lion actually going to be released to the public…?

Sky Blue

Jul 6, 2011, 01:24 PM

soooooo. when's Lion actually going to be released to the public…?

This month.

markrox7

Jul 6, 2011, 03:56 PM

With auto-save, does a document automatically save itself to the computer right away, or do you first save it once yourself wherever you want it and then it auto-saves from then on? :confused:

danb77

Jul 6, 2011, 04:50 PM

stewacide

Jul 6, 2011, 05:20 PM

svale

Jul 7, 2011, 10:28 AM

Finally got around to installing Lion today.

Did I miss a memo? Did Apple remove hex codes from DigitalColor Meter? :confused:

markrox7

Jul 7, 2011, 01:10 PM

When adding a widget to the dashboard, can you swipe on the trackpad to see the other widgets, or do you still have to press the arrows on the sides?

rorschach

Jul 7, 2011, 01:12 PM

Finally got around to installing Lion today.

Did I miss a memo? Did Apple remove hex codes from DigitalColor Meter? :confused:

Yep, they did.

CyBeRino

Jul 7, 2011, 06:43 PM

I notice that the 'restart in safari' lock screen option is present even on MBR machines like mine without the recovery partition. Simply causes the machine to reboot normally, but a bit lame they're not checking.

Apple doesn't really support non-GPT booting of OSX so I can't really fault them for that. It works, sure, but it's not something you should be using really.

markrox7

Jul 7, 2011, 08:09 PM

How long do you expect Lion to download with a ~1 mbps internet speed?

Stitzu

Jul 7, 2011, 08:34 PM

How long do you expect Lion to download with a ~1 mbps internet speed?

From doing some pretty rough calculations I would say at least 10 hours or so...

richard.mac

Jul 7, 2011, 11:22 PM

I'm mising something or local snapshots for TM are gone in GM?

i think Versions is essentially the local snapshots feature, and then when you are away from your Time Machine backup for a while it will backup these versions/snapshots when you reconnect the backup disk.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#timemachine

stewacide

Jul 8, 2011, 06:25 PM

Apple doesn't really support non-GPT booting of OSX so I can't really fault them for that. It works, sure, but it's not something you should be using really.

As far as OSX is concerned it's a GPT drive (that is, it's a hybrid GPT/MBR drive): just one without a recovery partition. There are lots of scenarios where someone could be running Lion on a drive without a recovery partition, and hence 'restart to Safari' would fail.

Not a big issue by any means, but one that could easily be sorted by checking for the presence of the partition.

NT1440

Jul 8, 2011, 06:32 PM

Autosave saves every change that you make - even if the file is not "saved" yet. NB The only app which supports this so far is TextEdit.

A nice side effect of this are lightening fast app shutdowns. :-)

Thats a bit misleading. That makes it sound like you can get a snapshot of every character or whatever you do.

I was under the impression that it saves every 15 minutes or when certain other actions are taken (like switching to a different application).

iWonderwhy

Jul 8, 2011, 07:24 PM

How long do you expect Lion to download with a ~1 mbps internet speed?

Download time calculator (http://download.stormloader.com/).

markrox7

Jul 8, 2011, 07:49 PM

Download time calculator (http://download.stormloader.com/).

very useful. thanks!

JackFlakes

Jul 8, 2011, 08:19 PM

^^
I already tried everything, still a delay. Will report it to Apple, but I hoped I could get it confirmed in this forum before I do it.

I had that delay, but if you disable "Smart Zoom" in Trackpad settings under System preferences, the delay vanishes. It seriously sucks, but thats that I guess.
I like the new way of scrolling, but in minecraft again, hot bar scrolling is inverted and that feels wrong even if you're used to inverted scrolling everywhere else. haha

Any way to turn off auto correct?

kristoffer4

Jul 9, 2011, 02:31 AM

any way to turn off auto correct?

+1

JackFlakes

Jul 9, 2011, 02:52 AM

+1

Actually I found it, its under 'Language and Text' in the 'Text' tab in sysprefs "Correct Spelling Automatically"
But it looks like you have to restart your apps for the change to take effect..

Anyways. I'm surprised by the lack of customization options in the Finder sidebar! Folders I placed there in SL can't be drag-poofed out (admittedly they can be removed via rightclick) and having devices at the bottom irks me.. I also found in General System Preferences the sidebar icon label sizes can be tweaked back to small. Dunno if its been said..
I feel like I have to do too many workarounds for a workable workflow.... haha