Apple Expo Paris 2002 Coverage

[arn]

Apple Expo Paris (http://www.apple-expo.com/) starts at 10am (France Time). For the current time in France, visit here (http://www.worldtimeserver.com/?locationid=FR).

MacPlus is providing video updates at Apple-Expo.tv (http://www.apple-expo.tv/) of Apple Expo 2002.

Cube-Zone (http://www.cube-zone.com) also states that they will have coverage.

[iAryeh]

I am confused. I checked out the site which says it has video and could not find ny live coverage.

[SPG]

Uh, anyone going to stay up late night to see SJ demo the iApps again?

[arn]

Originally posted by iAryeh
I am confused. I checked out the site which says it has video and could not find ny live coverage.

I don't know if any of these sites will provide live coverage.

arn

[djkut]

Originally posted by SPG
Uh, anyone going to stay up late night to see SJ demo the iApps again?

You bet your ass I will. :rolleyes:

[bigjohn]

You'd think an outfit like Apple that wants to promote the use of Quicktime 6 with it's fancy MPEG-4 streaming setup would want to use it to prove a stream from Europe works great, instead I have to refresh a page called "Cube-Zone" to get news on iCal and iSync.

Ridiculous,

Big John
Fox Sports Net

[gotohamish]

It sucks that there arn't any decent mac sites in the UK who run up-to-date coverage of the Euro events - anyone in the UK want to club together to do a decent mac site?

Thoughts? Arn - can you put a request in?

H

[HasanDaddy]

Our buddies in the UK are too busy sueing Apple....and don't worry, I'm on their side

I'm out here in SoCal and its 1:30 AM.....sorry SJ....you're a great CEO, but I'm going to bed

Hope to wake up to something kick ass!

[gotohamish]

i can't believe no one's even doing live coverage! This sucks. I keep refreshing cube-zone too - i think i'm gonna go play wolfenstein - come back to the sites when there's something to read about!

I hope there is an iPhone, just to piss off all those sites that are ignoring the expo coverage!

[krossfyter]

im up 3:30 a.m. CDT

[arn]

Log into your .Mac account....

It says iCal is here and gives you a download link... but the download link doesn't work yet.

arn

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by krossfyter
im up 3:30 a.m. CDT

I SERIOUSLY hope it's worth it for you! For all of us come to that!

H:)

[powerjack]

This is absolutely disgraceful. The Mac community is "supposed" to be the most creative group in the world with using modern media. And here we sit banging the freakign refresh button on a couple of third-tier web sites trying to get a littel news from Paris.

Aboslutely unpardonable. Apple should be streaming this thing!

[gotohamish]

no news yet, but i'm refreshing goold old http://www.macbidouille.com/ as well - you never know, the French might beat us to the news somehow!

H

[Molson]

.....and still no news.

Hey do you think Steve Jobs has successfully kept secret a big announcement from all the rumors sites?

:confused:

I doubt it, seeing as there is no coverage, but I live in hope.

I'm guessing iApps, demos and nothing else.

Please, ONE MORE THING!

And I'm sitting on all this cash waiting to buy a new powerbook!

[The Jav]

I just checked and iCal is now available for download from your idisk

[arn]

Live updates:

[removed to hopefully decrease load on their servers... ]

[adelaney]

Hey, is it just me or have we crashed Cube Zone and Hard Mac?
Or is it just incredibly slow because all us morons don't have lives?

[moby1]

6.3 MB - came down Fast!

M1

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by The Jav
I just checked and iCal is now available for download from your idisk

its not available for trail memebers right?

[irmongoose]

I'm getting it from my iDisk now... excited to see how it turns out. I'll post again after I've checked it out.


BTW, I'm a trial member. Just go to software>apple software>iCal1.0dmg



irmongoose

[arn]

damn... did we slashdot macplus already?

arn

[dobbin]

I've downloaded iCal but can't install as I don't have 10.2 yet.

I forgot about that!

If only Apple were offering an upgrade discount I would have bought it, but I'm waiting for my brother to get it first.

Cheers,
Dobbin

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by irmongoose
I'm getting it from my iDisk now... excited to see how it turns out. I'll post again after I've checked it out.


BTW, I'm a trial member. Just go to software>apple software>iCal1.0dmg



irmongoose


okay thanks.

:D

[powerjack]

Seems that macplus.org and apple-expo.tv are both hammered... and not answering.

[stukoch]

First???

I just finished optimiziing and iCal is installed. Strange it puts no icon in the dock. It is located in the apps folder. Seems pretty standard for a calander app. Will post more as i play with it.

-Stu

[irmongoose]

And it works! muhahaha!




irmongoose

[arn]

Originally posted by powerjack
Seems that macplus.org and apple-expo.tv are both hammered... and not answering.

well there goes our live updates... hopefully their webmaster will stroll over here and post updates... :)

arn

[adelaney]

Yes indeed, Arn, you are apparently the most powerful force on the Internet...able to crash major websites at a moment's notice with a couple of innocuous sentences.

[arn]

Originally posted by adelaney
Yes indeed, Arn, you are apparently the most powerful force on the Internet...able to crash major websites at a moment's notice with a couple of innocuous sentences.

heh... slashdot could certainly crush us.

...and may have something to do with the thousands of other mac users looking for a live feed. :)

arn

[stukoch]

irmongoose, that looks that the most useless dock I have ever seen. What's the point?

-Stu

[Molson]

Now that is surely the craziest dock I have ever seen (look at the image posted above of iCal!)

:eek:

[gotohamish]

iDisk-ed, copied, installed, rules!

H:p

[irmongoose]

Originally posted by stukoch
irmongoose, that looks that the most useless dock I have ever seen. What's the point?

-Stu


STOP CRITISIZING MY DOCK! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT ALREADY! :p :p

But, seriously, it works for me. I do have the zoom on, so... I mean, what other way would you use it?



irmongoose

[gotohamish]

anyone notice there's a "register iCal" option in the iCal menu?

Curious.

H

[stukoch]

Well, I am happily suprised by the publish features of iCal. It allows a person to publish a calnder to either .Mac OR! a web server. Meaning .Mac is not absolutly needed to take full advantage of iCal! Yeah!


-Stu

[stukoch]

Yeah, I saw the register option and checked it out. It is very generic and actually asks which Apple product to register. It gives all Apple products as a choice (hardware and software)

Also note the "Provide iCal Feedback" menu, that as of now is a dead link

-Stu

[irmongoose]

Originally posted by gotohamish
anyone notice there's a "register iCal" option in the iCal menu?

Curious.

H

Yah... it led me to a page.. which said Register Apple Product (doh!)...

Weird..... so is iCal going to have some features only available to paying users? That'll suck... :mad:



irmongoose

P.S. I like how the icon in the dock changes according to the real date..

[rafaelperini]

any word on iSync?????

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by stukoch
Well, I am happily suprised by the publish features of iCal. It allows a person to publish a calnder to euther .Mac OR! a web server. Meaning .Mac is not absolutly needed to take full advantage of iCal! Yeah!


-Stu

I saw that, and published it on my .mac, but what settings do i put in for my server? Obviously i know my log in details, but do i need to do a /home.ics for example - it says it won't work!

h

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I still think Entourage looks a lot cleaner...

(Admittedly, I haven't got "Jag-Wire" yet - so I'm stuck with Entourage until I upgrade - just waiting on Eskape Labs to update their MyTV drivers to work with 10.2...)

Can't find any more info anywhere on keynote....


...bugger.

[gotohamish]

Please don't tell me Steve flew all the way to France to open the gates to iCal?!?!!? Surely the keynote's over now, or will there be "one more thing"?

H

[rafaelperini]

At least iSync... I have been waiting for this all night long... dammit!

[iGav]

Originally posted by gotohamish
Please don't tell me Steve flew all the way to France to open the gates to iCal?!?!!? Surely the keynote's over now, or will there be "one more thing"?

H

looks like that's it......

[gotohamish]

and USA mac users complain when we ONLY get speed bumped powerbooks, or only a bigger iPod - what do us Brits/Euros get - iCal. And iCal alone aparently.

God help us. Don't me wrong, it rules, but PLEASE! iCal, iPhone, iNeedAKnewToy!!!!!

H

[iMacman]

in the end of the month there will be a BETA version of isync
he, you promised it for early september, steve

[rafaelperini]

what the hell !!!

Why that big iSync poster again????

Don't they have the soft yet?

[mister880]

Apple would make me so happy if they updated iMovie!
Things like better titles!
Real Time effects.... Or at least faster rendering!
Maybe "SCROLLBARS" for the transitions and effects!
Better Video Quality!
The ability to do two effects to one clip... For instance make it black and white then add a water ripple.... Without exporting and importing again!
Better Firewire disk support! What goog are external firewire drives if the mac looses them or can't keep up!

P.S. I am not mac bashing! I love the mac and truley feel it's the best platform for video editing... These are just my suggestions to make it even better!

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by iMacman
in the end of the month there will be a BETA version of isync
he, you promised it for early september, steve

yippee, i suppose... that'll be just in time for october BT PowerBooks, and... iPhone?

However - can ANYONE get a calendar on their own server? what's the trick, it wont work for me!!!!?!?!???!

H

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Ridiculous - a complete waste of time.

The only excuse that I can make for the pisspoor turnout of new products is that Apple didn't want any prospective new releases of software or hardware to be lost in the system, especially when the 1st Anniversary of the September 11 disasters are going to be covered by every news station on the planet tomorrow...

[rafaelperini]

dammit! Beta iSync in the end of the month? What Am i Suppose to do with my palm until then?

[gotohamish]

iCall - !!!!! 3G/GPRS/Colour display/X-network... shipping now!



...and then i woke up - come on Steve!!!

[mister880]

To use iCAL your web server must support WEBDAV standards!
Learn more @ http://www.apple.com/creative/webpro/technology/webdav/

If you have a unix based server it's easy to install and setup! NT like all Windows SUCKS! Get a new server!

[rafaelperini]

Please, someone that knows french, please check this page:

http://www.01net.com/rdn?oid=192825&rub=3365

[greg godwin]

[Admin Edit: This looks like bs]

11:34 am

new powerbook 933 MHz, Firewire 2, ATI Mobility 9000

[irmongoose]

Originally posted by mister880
The ability to do two effects to one clip... For instance make it black and white then add a water ripple.... Without exporting and importing again!

You can do that you know... after you've done the firts effect, just press 'commit', and you're ready to do the next effect.

But I agree, the rest of iMovie is very out-dated.. needs to be upgraded VERY VERY soon..



irmongoose

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by greg godwin
11:34 am

new powerbook 933 MHz, Firewire 2, ATI Mobility 9000

You sh**in me?

Really?

[rafaelperini]

Is that true about the iSync beta?

[Chaszmyr]

The keynote should be over by now, howcome we havent heard anything yet?

[Molson]

beacuse there is nothing to say

[Chaszmyr]

Apples homepage was just updated... iCal only.. not even an announcement about isync :(

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by mister880
To use iCAL your web server must support WEBDAV standards!
Learn more @ http://www.apple.com/creative/webpro/technology/webdav/

If you have a unix based server it's easy to install and setup! NT like all Windows SUCKS! Get a new server!

It's not MY server, just hosting i pay for. I know they use Linux, and that I can open my server using Command-K in the Finder (10.2) - does this mean it's webDAV? What should I put into iCal?

Do i specify a page for it? HELP PEOPLE, has anyone published a non-.mac calendar yet?

H

[Molson]

I'm kinda guessing this means no new hardware 'til next year, probably at MWSF.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/sep/10macosx.html

Apple Announces Mac OS X-Only Booting For 2003

APPLE EXPO, PARIS—September 10, 2002—Apple® today announced that starting in January 2003, all new Mac® models will only boot into Mac® OS X as the start-up operating system, though they will retain the ability to run most Mac OS 9 applications through Apple’s bundled “Classic” software. There are nearly 4,000 native applications now available for Mac OS X

[moby1]

Originally posted by Chaszmyr
The keynote should be over by now, howcome we havent heard anything yet?

It's over all right.

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by Molson
I'm kinda guessing this means no new hardware 'til next year, probably at MWSF.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/sep/10macosx.html

Apple Announces Mac OS X-Only Booting For 2003

APPLE EXPO, PARIS—September 10, 2002—Apple® today announced that starting in January 2003, all new Mac® models will only boot into Mac® OS X as the start-up operating system, though they will retain the ability to run most Mac OS 9 applications through Apple’s bundled “Classic” software. There are nearly 4,000 native applications now available for Mac OS X

Great news! However, this might help current PM sales by musicians and hardware/os9 dependant people, as it'll probably be the last lot of PMs to natively run OS9. RIP 9!

H

[Molson]

“Apple and Philips share a vision for the future,” said Gerard Kleisterlee, CEO of Royal Philips Electronics. “We both believe that consumers want devices throughout the home to talk to each other, so that, for example, the music stored in iTunes on your Mac can play through the Philips stereo system in your living room, or the photos stored in iPhoto can be displayed as a stunning slideshow on your Philips Flat TV. Rendezvous helps realize this dream. Philips is particularly pleased that Apple has adopted an open standard and architecture for Rendezvous, and we will support Rendezvous in future Philips products.”

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/sep/10rendezvous.html

[Mr. Anderson]

I'm so glad I didn't get up early to see this - I can't believe that was it, iCal? Nothing exciting?

Hopefully something new will come along before xmas.....blah!

D

[gandalf55]

iCal is SWEET - it's like outlook for PC but almost better! it's perfect for a small design shop, etc. and it's FREE. i havent figured out the publish calendar thing yet. i published to my server fine - but cant find what it FTP'd yet. Havent tested yet :(

[gandalf55]

my isp doesnt seem to support webdav or something - i can publish to my server but don't get notification that it went alright (not a .mac account). i look at my server and don't see an .lcs anywhere :(

would love it if someone posted up a sample calendar online to see it in action.

[amnesiac1984]

to all those having trouble with iCal on their own server. Couldn't you just save it as a local file then upload to your server? I know its not as smooth but is offers the same functionality

[cbrantly]

I don't think it posts a .ics file...it creates HTML.

That way people can view it in a browser...they don't have to have iCal. It must embed the .ics file also, though because people can load your cal into their own iCal if they have it.

[Blackcat]

Originally posted by greg godwin
[Admin Edit: This looks like bs]

11:34 am

new powerbook 933 MHz, Firewire 2, ATI Mobility 9000

Where did you read that?

Doable specs, the 933s have been out for months, ATI 9000s are drop in, and FW2 would save space.

[krossfyter]

iCAl is not going to get much work in my world. i really have no use for it. If im busy im too busy to write what im busy about on this calendar. Things change in my world ... im a spontaneous creature not so limited to time constraints or what not. I guess this app isn’t my bag. Did apple create anything for the spontaneous people out there? :D

[mrbill]

Originally posted by cbrantly
I don't think it posts a .ics file...it creates HTML.

That way people can view it in a browser...they don't have to have iCal. It must embed the .ics file also, though because people can load your cal into their own iCal if they have it.

Nope - it "publishes" .ics files; you only get the "HTML" view if you publish to .Mac.

See my example ("published" to a Solaris 8 server running Apache 1.3.26 and mod_dav):

http://calendar.mrbill.net

As you can see, just plain .ics files. I'm currently looking for an application I can put up there that will parse the .ics files into something presentable on a web page.

Printed calendars from iCal are spiffy - I've made a couple of PDFs..

[McFreggle]

Hey guys,

I'm back from Paris. Sorry I didn't have any coverage, but I really had _no possibility at all_ to connect to the internet :(

Oh well, whatever, everything is covered very well over here :D

I can post some photos if you like to...

k.

[cyclist]

WAS IT REALLY THAT DIFFICULT TO MAKE iCal WORK WITH OS 10.1.5? DO WE HAVE TO KEEP SHELLING OUT ********** MONEY EVERY UPGRADE? JUST TO GET NEW APPLICATIONS? iHate THIS ******. SWEAR TO GOD, THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS HAVE BEEN GENERALLY A SIREN SONG FROM APPLE...AND NOW MY BANK BOOK IS CRASHED AGAINST THE ROCKS OF BANKRUPTCY...HOW LONG UNTIL 10.1.5 IS OBSOLETE? COUPLA MONTHS? MAYBE JOBS ALREADY HAS A PLAN TO COLONIZE SOME OBSCURE PLANET AND NEEDS ALL OUR MONEY. UGH.

STILL LOVE THAT AQUA INTERFACE! I LOVE IT!!!!:mad: :D

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by cyclist
STILL LOVE THAT AQUA INTERFACE! I LOVE IT!!!!:mad: :D
Talking about 'mixed feelings'...

k.