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Judogi
Sep 10, 2002, 03:25 AM
http://www.mac.com/1/ical.html

It's a shame the download link is broken though. Guess we'll have to wait til after the Stevenote for the file to be available.

Judogi
Sep 10, 2002, 03:30 AM
already available on iDisk though...

Gelfin
Sep 10, 2002, 03:31 AM
Damn, you scooped me. :)

gotohamish
Sep 10, 2002, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Gelfin
Damn, you scooped me. :)

can ANYONE get a calendar on their own server? what's the trick, it wont work for me!!!!?!?!???!

gotohamish
Sep 10, 2002, 04:41 AM
iCall - !!!!! 3G/GPRS/Colour display/X-network... shipping now!



...and then i woke up - come on Steve!!!

Judogi
Sep 10, 2002, 04:45 AM
Web server has to be WebDAV enabled.. can't post over plain ol http

Chaszmyr
Sep 10, 2002, 05:17 AM
You cant upload 2 different calenders (the different color things) onto one website? wtf is up with that?

iwantanewmac
Sep 10, 2002, 05:35 AM
like Icare........... :)

scem0
Sep 10, 2002, 08:29 AM
It is sort of pointless, but Im sure there are some people that can find a use for it. I have it on my computer but I dont think I will use it more then 5 times throughout my entire life :D. I want iSurf....

mnkeybsness
Sep 10, 2002, 08:31 AM
this version is at least 10 times faster than the beta i got off limewire

phgreer
Sep 10, 2002, 09:15 AM
What happened to the Gel looking - Aqua style backgrounds for the events? The colors looks flat.

Sratner
Sep 10, 2002, 09:39 AM
it gives you the option to import entourage data, but when i do that it seems to freeze indefinately.... maybe it takes a long time??? has anyone done this?

mrbill
Sep 10, 2002, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Judogi
Web server has to be WebDAV enabled.. can't post over plain ol http

and you only get the "web view" if you publish to .Mac - "publishing" to a normal Apache web server running mod_dav (WebDAV) extensions just gets you .ics
files:

(my test)

http://calendar.mrbill.net

Bill

BongHits
Sep 10, 2002, 05:11 PM
wow it looks like ical is entirely useless to you guys...i know there's a 99% chance i'll never even touch ical.

mrbill
Sep 10, 2002, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by BongHits
wow it looks like ical is entirely useless to you guys...i know there's a 99% chance i'll never even touch ical.

Oh, its very useful - I'll just have to write some code to turn the .ics files on my webserver into viewable HTML, and thats just to look at my calendars when I'm not at home on the Mac.

nuckinfutz
Sep 10, 2002, 05:35 PM
You actually have to be busy or have a desire to be organized to use it.

Those who think Calendars are useless may think differently once you have children, bills and a myriad of other things going on in your life.

Just my $.02

P-Worm
Sep 10, 2002, 08:02 PM
I'm just a high school student and I love this application. Finally, I can make sure if I am free at a certain time using my iPod (which I carry around anyway).

Although, there do seem to be some bugs that still need to be ironed out and it could be a lot faster. Oh well, atleast I might finally get my life in order. :eek: :eek: :eek:

P-Worm

McFreggle
Sep 11, 2002, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by P-Worm
I'm just a high school student and I love this application. Finally, I can make sure if I am free at a certain time using my iPod (which I carry around anyway).There were allready solutions for that, like... paper and pen.

k.

zimv20
Sep 11, 2002, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by nuckinfutz
You actually have to be busy or have a desire to be organized to use it.

Those who think Calendars are useless may think differently once you have children, bills and a myriad of other things going on in your life.


on my handspring visor, using DateBook+, there's a view that shows the whole year. it marks each day something is scheduled. on mine, through the end of september, i have fewer than 30 days NOT marked.

i'm self-employed and couldn't manage my time w/o one.

...regarding iCal/iSync, i'll be impressed when i can hit the Sync button on the visor cradle and have all my info correctly d/loaded into the iApps...

...i've already gone through the headache of MANUALLY transferring all my Newton data into Palm Desktop...

pinapplex
Sep 11, 2002, 04:03 AM
of me ever using an application that takes like three seconds when switching from week-view to month-view on a Ti 550?

slim to none... :(

drastik
Sep 11, 2002, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by pinapplex
of me ever using an application that takes like three seconds when switching from week-view to month-view on a Ti 550?

slim to none... :(

You've got a different problem, it takes me almost no time (under two seconds) to switch on my Pismo 400.

Outside that, I have a great use for this calander, especially the web publishing. I too need some code to converst ics, but that will come. MY crap is so convuluted between work and home, I can really use it. My palm works great with entourage and of course Palm Desktop on the Mac. I finally got the guys at work to allow me to use Palm desktop on our crappy PCs. My belief is that iSync is going to save me some headaches and allow only two syncs a day, which is better than the three or four I have now, and that doesn't include a web calender.

pinapplex
Sep 11, 2002, 09:47 AM
I will give Final Cut Pro two seconds to switch to "Edit To Tape" mode, but not a calender application to switch views. I donīt mean to be unreasonably demanding, but I almost go back to OS 9 every day because it is soooo much more snappy and "there" than OS X.

10.2 helped a bit, but it is way far from good enough... And the sad fact that my little brothers PC runs on a 533 mhz system bus, while the coolest Mac is at 167 mhz gives me a bad stomach feeling... I love my Mac, but I need performance, not laggy iAppz...

AmbitiousLemon
Sep 11, 2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by pinapplex
I will give Final Cut Pro two seconds to switch to "Edit To Tape" mode, but not a calender application to switch views. I donīt mean to be unreasonably demanding, but I almost go back to OS 9 every day because it is soooo much more snappy and "there" than OS X.

10.2 helped a bit, but it is way far from good enough... And the sad fact that my little brothers PC runs on a 533 mhz system bus, while the coolest Mac is at 167 mhz gives me a bad stomach feeling... I love my Mac, but I need performance, not laggy iAppz...

problem isnt with osx or with ical, and someone already told you that so quit your whining. switching modes or views on my g3 powerbook 333mhz is instant.

backspinner
Sep 11, 2002, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by pinapplex
...takes like three seconds when switching from week-view to month-view on a Ti 550?

on my Ti 550 it takes 3 seconds as well to change views.

It also changes the window size, very annoying!

ryme4reson
Sep 11, 2002, 11:02 AM
I am trying to put my school schedule on iCal, and I can seem to see anything past 7Pm. There are no sliders that make the screen bigger so I cannot see anything past 7pm. Some1 please help

backspinner
Sep 11, 2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by ryme4reson
There are no sliders that make the screen bigger so I cannot see anything past 7pm. Some1 please help

Enable this in the preferences: set the start and end times to 0:00.

ryme4reson
Sep 11, 2002, 11:13 AM
Under the pref panel, you can change the length of day to reflect 11PM. Mine was set at 8Pm.

AmbitiousLemon
Sep 11, 2002, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by backspinner

on my Ti 550 it takes 3 seconds as well to change views.

It also changes the window size, very annoying!

you guys have some very screwed up computers. have you been 'tinkering?' have you ever done any disk maitenance? sinc eit is 'very annoying' you should fix it instead of whining.

pinapplex
Sep 11, 2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon


problem isnt with osx or with ical, and someone already told you that so quit your whining. switching modes or views on my g3 powerbook 333mhz is instant.

Well, I missed it, but if you can tell me how to make my iCal snappy and fast, Iīll stop my whining immediately...

AmbitiousLemon
Sep 11, 2002, 02:37 PM
well i dont know your computer but here are some guesses:

1) you havent fixed your privledges. (there is a bug in 10.2 such that after installation you must boot from the cd go to the disk utility and choose the repair privledges option)

2) you have 'tinkered' with your system by installing betaware, removing extensions, moving items in the library folder (including fonts), or some other 'tinker'

3) your system is in need of fsck -y (boot into single user mode by holding down command-s and after the command line is finished booting type fsck -y until it returns a disk appears ok was not modified. then type reboot.

4) you have not been allowing your computer to run its nightly maitenance scripts. your computer runs maitenance scripts every night at 3am... but if your machines is off or sleeping at 3am then these are not run. you can download cronathon or macjanitor to manually run these scripts.

5) your system is even more screwed up and you would benefit from runnning diskwarrior (commercial-ware @ v2.1.1 [at least for the next few weeks])

like i said i dont know your machine, but i can tell you from what you have mentioned that something is not working as it should be and you should fix this rather than assuming there is something wrong with osx or ical. im not a big fan of v1.0 of any iapp but the problems you mentioned are not due to apple's tendancy to release poor v1.0 apps.

for more details on disk maitenance or disk maitenance software titles and links check my website. www.ambitiouslemon.com [go to the 'hints' section. there are also several thread here at MR where people have discussed these matters (use the search tool to find them) but these can be confusing since many people are not yet very familiar with osx and still have some very os9 thinking.

pinapplex
Sep 11, 2002, 02:53 PM
That was good advice! Thanks! :)

backspinner
Sep 12, 2002, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
sinc eit is 'very annoying' you should fix it instead of whining. Stop it! Never accuse somebody of whining when they just report some issues!


Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
1) you havent fixed your privledgesWell, I did a clean install of a professional operating system I bought and it didn't give me this option in the manual... so I guess _this_ is tinkering! But I will try it when I come home.

But aside from this all: isn't it curious that only owners of a Ti 550 report this problem?


Originally posted by pinapplex
That was good advice!Did it work for you?

backspinner
Sep 12, 2002, 07:47 AM
OK, I did a priv repair (it is in the disk util app in the /Applications/Utilities folder). It found and repaired a lot of problems, but it didn't solve the delay in iCal for going from week to month view. Any other suggestions? I already did MacJanitor.

pinapplex
Sep 12, 2002, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by backspinner
Stop it! Never accuse somebody of whining when they just report some issues!


Well, I did a clean install of a professional operating system I bought and it didn't give me this option in the manual... so I guess _this_ is tinkering! But I will try it when I come home.

But aside from this all: isn't it curious that only owners of a Ti 550 report this problem?


Did it work for you?

Nope. I have done a DiskWarrior session, MacJanitor, and the "fsck -y" thing, and iCal still jumps 15 to 18 times in the dock at launch, and is a true pain to use... iCal doesnīt really matter too much to me, but it is annoying to not have a good working computer...

backspinner
Sep 12, 2002, 08:26 AM
Maybe it is Airport or some network issue?

Nipsy
Sep 12, 2002, 10:20 AM
Wanna calendar on your own server?

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020912065811863

pinapplex
Sep 12, 2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by backspinner
Maybe it is Airport or some network issue?

Turned off the Airport with no different results...

skunk
Sep 16, 2002, 08:06 PM
This calendar thing is REALLY slow! I've tried it on several different Macs, and it's clunky as hell. it's ugly, it's slow, and there's practically nothing in the Preference panel to choose. The window resizing is especially jerky.
Frankly, I think it's a really poorly designed piece of software. When you hover the mouse over an event, you should be able to see the whole event, like in Messenger when you hover over a message Header. And the colours are terrible.

danielgrenell
Sep 16, 2002, 10:43 PM
i'm a student, and i use ical all the time to orginize my asighnments, now, i don't no wat i would do without it, and, i can take my calanders with me on my ipod, and my palm m505.

bretm
Sep 19, 2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by pinapplex
I will give Final Cut Pro two seconds to switch to "Edit To Tape" mode, but not a calender application to switch views. I donīt mean to be unreasonably demanding, but I almost go back to OS 9 every day because it is soooo much more snappy and "there" than OS X.

10.2 helped a bit, but it is way far from good enough... And the sad fact that my little brothers PC runs on a 533 mhz system bus, while the coolest Mac is at 167 mhz gives me a bad stomach feeling... I love my Mac, but I need performance, not laggy iAppz...

Ok... how about checking about 5 or six emails while WAITING for FCP to boot? How about launching PS and FCP at the same time while opening a web page while checking an emial?

OSX may not be as "snappy" but I think if you really clocked it you'd find things are not as far off as you think. The true time savings is in the stability and multi-tasking. Hell, while you're rendering for an hour in FCP you can swap out to check your mail or surf. Maybe do a little photoshop graphics for your client.

I can't touch OS9 anymore. And when I do, it does feel kind of nifty for a few hours, until it freezes and loses a few hours of work.

BTW - 10.2 actually launches classic faster than booting in OS9. Seems to run the apps faster than if you had booted in OS9. Now only if scanners and other hardware worked thru classic. My guess is apple will address all the "classic" hardware issues and then dump the ability to boot in OS9 with the next line of macs.

bretm
Sep 19, 2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by pinapplex


Nope. I have done a DiskWarrior session, MacJanitor, and the "fsck -y" thing, and iCal still jumps 15 to 18 times in the dock at launch, and is a true pain to use... iCal doesnīt really matter too much to me, but it is annoying to not have a good working computer...

I've counted up to 33 jumps. Usually at least 22. My computer passes all tests. It's a 400mhz PB G4 running jag. I deleted the entire hard drive and installed jaguar. iCal is the first software I've installed except my palm desktop - which runs great, looks more like apple software than apple software, etc.

bretm
Sep 19, 2002, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by bretm


I've counted up to 33 jumps. Usually at least 22. My computer passes all tests. It's a 400mhz PB G4 running jag. I deleted the entire hard drive and installed jaguar. iCal is the first software I've installed except my palm desktop - which runs great, looks more like apple software than apple software, etc.

After installing 10.2.1 - it's onlly 6 jumps. Way to go apple. My guess is the real update in 10.2.1 was the priv fix.

And since next to nobody leaves their computer on at 3am NOT in sleep mode, I'm going to hunt down that oreilley link to a tutorial on how to dhange that time...

can't we run fsck -y in the terminal window?

Rower_CPU
Sep 19, 2002, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by bretm
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can't we run fsck -y in the terminal window?

Nope. Just like Disk First Aid in OS 9, the disk can't be mounted when you run those diagnostics. Booting into single user mode is the only way to do it on your boot drive.