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sw-eng-mba
Mar 1, 2011, 08:11 AM
This has probably been asked many times, I just haven't found it yet.

Question: If I purchase a macbook pro today (the early 2011 model just released in February 2011), will I be able to upgrade to OS X Lion official release for free in the summer of 2011 once it's released? Or will I have to purchase to perform the upgrade?

Thanks



Sky Blue
Mar 1, 2011, 08:14 AM
You will have to purchase. If you buy a Mac after they have released the final date (usually a couple of weeks) you can buy it for shipping and handling.

BaldiMac
Mar 1, 2011, 08:16 AM
Based on previous releases, only Macs purchased after a firm released date is announced will be eligible for free upgrades.

sw-eng-mba
Mar 1, 2011, 08:18 AM
Just to clarify, you mean a couple weeks before the official release date?

Thanks

Sky Blue
Mar 1, 2011, 08:58 AM
Just to clarify, you mean a couple weeks before the official release date?

Thanks

Yup.

iPhone1
Mar 1, 2011, 10:10 AM
Expect it to be more than $29 like Snow Leopard is. This is a major update to OS X and will likely cost $129+.

Shorties
Mar 1, 2011, 02:51 PM
Expect it to be more than $29 like Snow Leopard is. This is a major update to OS X and will likely cost $129+.

Though since they are selling it through the app store, and are bound to make a good amount more money if it is at a lower price point, even being a big upgrade I wouldn't necessarily guess on prices just yet.

And since they are going to offer it through the app store I wonder if future computers that come out around Lion will offer an ability to connect to the internet, log into your app store account and reinstall the operating system from within the firmware. That would be a huge selling point for having a purchase of the OS on your app store account.

lewis82
Mar 1, 2011, 03:04 PM
There isn't anything that justifies paying 129$. It's definitely not as "groundbreaking" as Leopard has been. I think the price will stay at 29$, this way less people are going to torrent it and more people that wouldn't have upgraded will do.

cambookpro
Mar 1, 2011, 03:08 PM
For me, anyway:

$29, abso-bloody-lutely!
$129, TPB

I think other people will feel the same.

tac22
Mar 1, 2011, 03:27 PM
i think it will be more then $29 but less then $129

Probably between $49 and $79

Hell Aperture cost $79 on the mac app store, so I think they will sell it in the mac app store at a fair price.

aristobrat
Mar 1, 2011, 03:32 PM
Just to clarify, you mean a couple weeks before the official release date?
FWIW, Snow Leopard was officially "unveiled" 06/08/09 (during WDC).
It launched 08/28/09.

Any Mac purchased 06/08/09 and later was eligible for a free update, so in that case, it was almost 12 weeks.

Who knows what they'll do this year.

Gnuff
Mar 1, 2011, 04:28 PM
There isn't anything that justifies paying 129$. It's definitely not as "groundbreaking" as Leopard has been. I think the price will stay at 29$, this way less people are going to torrent it and more people that wouldn't have upgraded will do.

Lion brings a whole new paradigm in the way we interface with applications and documents on desktops and it seems like Server is included. In what way would this be like Snow Leopard was to Leopard?

I wouldn't mind the $129 price tag at all, based on what I've seen from the reports on the forum and from reviews, I must say I'm realy looking forward to it. But if I was to guess, I would guess $99. Just a hunch.

Penfold2711
Mar 1, 2011, 05:11 PM
I hope its a far price around 25-50 would be good even if this was the app store price to disk price i would see me investing in lion.

MattInOz
Mar 1, 2011, 05:20 PM
Expect it to be more than $29 like Snow Leopard is. This is a major update to OS X and will likely cost $129+.

From everything but a marketing perspective SL was a big update. Even if it did reduce the quantum of bits on disk.
Like SL the installed base for Lion to target is recognizably bigger than any OS update prior and it seems like there will be enough under hood stuff that Apple will want to get in users hands so Dev's feel there is value in targeting those features. $129 is too high for fast roll out, makes the appstore less attractive.

If they distribute thru the Appstore does that mean like all appstore software we can't use it on the office computers?

LucasG
Mar 1, 2011, 05:35 PM
Is the upgrade going to be free for developer users with an active subscription?

Steve Ballmer
Mar 1, 2011, 06:03 PM
Is the upgrade going to be free for developer users with an active subscription?
Free in the sense it's part of your annual $99, yes. You can also get Snow Leopard and Snow Leopard RTM at the moment, which will probably disappear as soon as Lion hits GM.

JKK photography
Mar 1, 2011, 06:06 PM
There isn't anything that justifies paying 129$. It's definitely not as "groundbreaking" as Leopard has been. I think the price will stay at 29$, this way less people are going to torrent it and more people that wouldn't have upgraded will do.

It's pretty groundbreaking if you are running it on a laptop.

It'll be more than $29. $129 may be too much, but it won't retail for the same as Snow Leopard.

rorschach
Mar 1, 2011, 07:29 PM
There isn't anything that justifies paying 129$. It's definitely not as "groundbreaking" as Leopard has been. I think the price will stay at 29$, this way less people are going to torrent it and more people that wouldn't have upgraded will do.

No way it's going to be $29. They *might* drop the price to $99 at most. Every other major update has cost $129 except for 10.1, which was free only because 10.0 was so slow, buggy, and missing so many basic features (couldn't even play DVDs or burn CDs).

dumb
Mar 1, 2011, 07:42 PM
This has probably been asked many times, I just haven't found it yet.

Question: If I purchase a macbook pro today (the early 2011 model just released in February 2011), will I be able to upgrade to OS X Lion official release for free in the summer of 2011 once it's released? Or will I have to purchase to perform the upgrade?

Thanks

I decided to come to the forum after a while because I have the same burning question. I got the 2009 MBP in late june when the release date was announced for late august. All I paid was 9.99.
Since its not officially announced when we will get it, we probably will end up paying the Full retail.

What would really suck is, Apple would announce...the one more thing Tomorrow, March 2, and tell Lion would be released July 8 or something and all MBPs purchased as of tomorrow will be eligible for the 9.99 or the reduced price for Lion..... ahhh its killing me.

tourada
Mar 1, 2011, 07:57 PM
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Whether it's 9.99 or 29.99 doesn't really make a difference. Still it's cheap. And worth the money

jazz9
Mar 1, 2011, 09:44 PM
Surely it wouldn't be more than $50. The $129 figure seems more reasonable for a major update (example OS X 11). Charging people large amounts for semi-minor updates like 10.1 > 10.2 > 10.3 doesn't seem fair.

Steve Ballmer
Mar 1, 2011, 09:53 PM
Surely it wouldn't be more than $50. The $129 figure seems more reasonable for a major update (example OS X 11). Charging people large amounts for semi-minor updates like 10.1 > 10.2 > 10.3 doesn't seem fair.
Every Mac OS X release has been $129 except for 10.1 (free) and 10.6 ($29.) Even the Public Beta sold for $29.

Also, Apple has always considered X.Y releases to be major. X.Y.Z releases are considered minor. The X only changes when there's a massive architecture change, such as how Mac OS X used a completely different kernel from Mac OS 9.

hellomoto4
Mar 1, 2011, 10:28 PM
I reckon they'll reduce it to $99 to appeal to those who changed from Windows-> Mac during the Leopard times and are used to $29 OS upgrades.

Steve Ballmer
Mar 1, 2011, 10:38 PM
I reckon they'll reduce it to $99 to appeal to those who changed from Windows-> Mac during the Leopard times and are used to $29 OS upgrades.
Used to a single $29 OS upgrade after they might have paid $129 for Leopard, if they bought a computer with Tiger?

Apple will almost assuredly charge $129, and why not? Apple users apparently upgrade without a second thought. They always proclaim 10.x to be their best selling OS ever, so clearly the $129 has worked.

tourada
Mar 1, 2011, 10:44 PM
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I reckon they'll reduce it to $99 to appeal to those who changed from Windows-> Mac during the Leopard times and are used to $29 OS upgrades.
Used to a single $29 OS upgrade after they might have paid $129 for Leopard, if they bought a computer with Tiger?

Apple will almost assuredly charge $129, and why not? Apple users apparently upgrade without a second thought. They always proclaim 10.x to be their best selling OS ever, so clearly the $129 has worked.

Agreed.
Yes, we all love apple and they love us. But remember they are a business to make money. If they can charge 129, why not? They know they'll have people buy it without thought of price.

Takuro
Mar 1, 2011, 11:30 PM
This has been stated before, but Apple has a standard 2-week policy for these types of situations. Whether it's a new hardware release or new software, you're eligible to receive a free upgrade if your machine / software was purchased within this time window.

surroundfan
Mar 1, 2011, 11:46 PM
I know that what I'm about to say is a wistful dream, but I can hope that it comes true:

I hope they make the 10.7 update free of charge like iPhone updates. This would ensure that developers could be reasonably confident punters have the latest APIs making OSX a predictable platform to develop for (as opposed to Windows, where OSs dating back to the ark must be supported), that Apple does not have to keep multiple versions of OSX patched and that people who have not yet upgraded from Leopard can access the App Store (so Apple can take their 30% cut).

Not going to happen I know (I'll bet on a $49 price tag), but I can always hope. ;)

Steve Ballmer
Mar 1, 2011, 11:51 PM
I know that what I'm about to say is a wistful dream, but I can hope that it comes true:

I hope they make the 10.7 update free of charge like iPhone updates. This would ensure that developers could be reasonably confident punters have the latest APIs making OSX a predictable platform to develop for (as opposed to Windows, where OSs dating back to the ark must be supported), that Apple does not have to keep multiple versions of OSX patched and that people who have not yet upgraded from Leopard can access the App Store (so Apple can take their 30% cut).

Not going to happen I know (I'll bet on a $49 price tag), but I can always hope. ;)
Dating back to the ark? Right now, XP SP3, Vista SP2 and Windows 7 are the only fully supported consumer OS by Microsoft right now. The oldest of the bunch, SP2, goes back to 2007, the same year Leopard was released, which Apple also continues to support.

I really see no reason why Lion won't be $129. People apparently paid this price happily with 10.0, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. $0 and $29 are the only other OS prices Apple has used with Mac OS X. Yes, it would be great if it sold for $29, $49, $79 or $99, but when Apple knows they can sell the same number of copies for $129, why not?