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ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 05:37 PM
Long story short:

I work in a secure building, we can have iPods (certain models) but no microphones. Obviously that means the iPhone style earbuds with the remote and mic are out of the question.

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as an inline remote earbuds without the mic?



miles01110
Mar 1, 2011, 05:39 PM
Passive speakers like earphones can pass audio in the opposite direction as well. The iPod has no transmission capabilities, but if the goal is to prevent the compromise of sensitive information you shouldn't even be allowed to have electronics in the first place.

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 05:48 PM
Passive speakers like earphones can pass audio in the opposite direction as well. The iPod has no transmission capabilities, but if the goal is to prevent the compromise of sensitive information you shouldn't even be allowed to have electronics in the first place.

Well...I can't completely say I appreciate the irrelevant post, but thanks anyway. There are certain accepted risks. Others are not acceptable, plain and simple.

miles01110
Mar 1, 2011, 05:50 PM
Well...I can't completely say I appreciate the irrelevant post, but thanks anyway. There are certain accepted risks. Others are not acceptable, plain and simple.

How is it not relevant? I plainly stated that passive speakers can be used as microphones. It's in the first sentence. Are microphones restricted or not? If so, you should not bring passive speakers into your workplace.

1 + 1 = 2.

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 05:54 PM
Incase anyone is paying attention past the last couple posts:

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as an inline remote earbuds without the mic?

townmoron
Mar 1, 2011, 08:21 PM
How is it not relevant? I plainly stated that passive speakers can be used as microphones. It's in the first sentence. Are microphones restricted or not? If so, you should not bring passive speakers into your workplace.

1 + 1 = 2.

You know what, I'm going to take the time to register an account just to say that people like you are why asking for help on the internet sucks.

Yes, technically you manage to be correct in answering a question that no one was asking. You should have mentioned that any flat surface can actually be turned into a microphone with the proper PZM technology so that you really could have chalked up an obnoxious internet win for yourself.

OP: Sony MDR-EX38iP headphones match what you need.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666001159

miles01110
Mar 1, 2011, 08:27 PM
You know what, I'm going to take the time to register an account just to say that people like you are why asking for help on the internet sucks.

Props for picking an accurate name.

Yes, technically you manage to be correct in answering a question that no one was asking.

Did you read the original post? I'll quote it for you with the relevant parts emphasized.

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I work in a secure building, we can have iPods (certain models) but no microphones. Obviously that means the iPhone style earbuds with the remote and mic are out of the question.

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as an inline remote earbuds without the mic?

So, according to the original post, they are looking for earbuds without a microphone. If the building is actually "secure" (which is a ridiculous claim given that they are bringing in an electronic removable storage device in the first place), they won't allow passive microphone of the sort that can be created quite easily out of passive headphones. Highly relevant.

You should have mentioned that any flat surface can actually be turned into a microphone with the proper PZM technology so that you really could have chalked up an obnoxious internet win for yourself.

I wouldn't call it "technology." Microphone construction is quite simple. The trick is converting the audio into a useful format, which the iPod/headphone combination could do quite readily.

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 08:31 PM
You know what, I'm going to take the time to register an account just to say that people like you are why asking for help on the internet sucks.

Yes, technically you manage to be correct in answering a question that no one was asking. You should have mentioned that any flat surface can actually be turned into a microphone with the proper PZM technology so that you really could have chalked up an obnoxious internet win for yourself.

OP: Sony MDR-EX38iP headphones match what you need.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666001159

Thanks on both counts. It's sad how some forum users seem to just want to get a kick out of proving how right or witty they can be.



I really appreciate you posting that link. I feel ashamed to admit it but was trying to search for exactly that for an hour! Thanks again

townmoron
Mar 1, 2011, 08:35 PM
Props for picking an accurate name.



Did you read the original post? I'll quote it for you with the relevant parts emphasized.



So, according to the original post, they are looking for earbuds without a microphone. If the building is actually "secure" (which is a ridiculous claim given that they are bringing in an electronic removable storage device in the first place), they won't allow passive microphone of the sort that can be created quite easily out of passive headphones. Highly relevant.



I wouldn't call it "technology." Microphone construction is quite simple. The trick is converting the audio into a useful format, which the iPod/headphone combination could do quite readily.

We also aren't allowed to bring more than 3.4 ounces of liquid in a bottle onto a plane. It's a stupid and arbitrary rule, but if I asked you what the limit was before I flew, would it be helpful to tell me that my metal belt buckle could be melted in to another state and would violate the same rule?

miles01110
Mar 1, 2011, 08:38 PM
We also aren't allowed to bring more than 3.4 ounces of liquid in a bottle onto a plane. It's a stupid and arbitrary rule,

It is, but airport security is mostly for show anyways. And an excuse to porkbarrel.

...but if I asked you what the limit was before I flew, would it be helpful to tell me that my metal belt buckle could be melted in to another state and would violate the same rule?

You cannot melt your belt buckle on the plane. In the OP's case they are bringing an electronic device into a "secure" building, which is a threat without any change of form (even discounting the microphone issue, as removable storage is a security threat in itself) as you do in your example.

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 08:40 PM
We also aren't allowed to bring more than 3.4 ounces of liquid in a bottle onto a plane. It's a stupid and arbitrary rule, but if I asked you what the limit was before I flew, would it be helpful to tell me that my metal belt buckle could be melted in to another state and would violate the same rule?

It's not even worth it man, people like that will never get it. They'd rather just write up another series of quotes and again prove their wit.

townmoron
Mar 1, 2011, 08:46 PM
It is, but airport security is mostly for show anyways. And an excuse to porkbarrel.



You cannot melt your belt buckle on the plane. In the OP's case they are bringing an electronic device into a "secure" building, which is a threat without any change of form (even discounting the microphone issue, as removable storage is a security threat in itself) as you do in your example.

So my point stands. Isn't there even the slightest possibility that the rules at his building are equally arbitrary? Does that somehow mean he shouldn't just find some non-mic headphones so that he can listen to music yet retain his job? Do you bother to read your own posts?

miles01110
Mar 1, 2011, 08:48 PM
So my point stands. Isn't there even the slightest possibility that the rules at his building are equally arbitrary?

Less arbitrary, more incomplete and shortsighted.

Does that somehow mean he shouldn't just find some non-mic headphones so that he can listen to music yet retain his job?
If he or she really wanted to impress someone in their organization they could bring the issue to their security manager.

Do you bother to read your own posts?
I actually re-read all of my posts every day starting with #1. I envy you... you only have a couple to go back over tomorrow :(

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 08:52 PM
So my point stands. Isn't there even the slightest possibility that the rules at his building are equally arbitrary? Does that somehow mean he shouldn't just find some non-mic headphones so that he can listen to music yet retain his job? Do you bother to read your own posts?

Anything, in any building, policy or ruleset can be manipulated in someway. In hindsight maybe the word "secure" wasn't the correct choice. Maybe I should have said "controlled". Some people are too literal and can't handle walking away. We are in any manner only as secure as we think we are anyway right? As I said before certain risks are accepted, others are not. I get a long just fine with regular headphones, just wanted to find something with the remote and no mic.

Thanks again for the link, I'm likely going to be ordering those if I don't find a comparable solution.

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 09:00 PM
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666001159

After looking at this again and reviewing the specs...it appears it actually does come with a mic
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7825344/Internet%20Photos/Screen%20shot%202011-03-01%20at%209.59.34%20PM.png

flopticalcube
Mar 1, 2011, 09:03 PM
Plenty on eBay. They often say "without mic" or "not with mic".

ajsnow6234
Mar 1, 2011, 09:59 PM
Plenty on eBay. They often say "without mic" or "not with mic".

Thanks for the reply. I've been doing some searching on ebay, but can't seem to come up with one.

EDIT: just found one, looks like it's for an ipod shuffle. I think I'll take a chance on it and see if it works on a newer iPod Nano.

tjb1
Mar 1, 2011, 10:04 PM
Skullcandy Smokin' Buds have inline control without a mic.

townmoron
Mar 1, 2011, 10:04 PM
After looking at this again and reviewing the specs...it appears it actually does come with a mic
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7825344/Internet%20Photos/Screen%20shot%202011-03-01%20at%209.59.34%20PM.png

Sorry about that...

There are some cheaper ones, but I thought those Sony ones didn't. Here's some that I am pretty sure don't. Assume they aren't great, but at least might work... Only thing I'm not really sure is if these ones still control the iPod volume or just have an in-line slider. I assume you would rather have the control, and I think the slider is in regards to the cable management, but I don't understand how that works. Here's a few...

http://www.adorama.com/ILVIEP311BK.html?utm_term=Other&utm_medium=Shopping%20Site&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=gbase

http://www.datavis.com/cgi-bin/product.cgi?prrfnbr=520274&site=GOGL

For women? Not sure how, but there you go.

itryanditry
Mar 1, 2011, 11:50 PM
So I bought this back in the day with the 4th generation shuffle. That silly damn thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Headphone-Adapter-Remote-Shuffle/dp/B002K4GBEI

I just tried it on my iPhone 4 to make sure it would work, it's fine. The plus side here is that you can use any headphones you want with it. No mic, it just adapts whatever earphones you use.

Not sure if this would help you, but it's worth a shot.

steve knight
Mar 2, 2011, 12:31 AM
Thanks on both counts. It's sad how some forum users seem to just want to get a kick out of proving how right or witty they can be.



I really appreciate you posting that link. I feel ashamed to admit it but was trying to search for exactly that for an hour! Thanks again

actually looking at the specs they have a mic.
maybe ones that work for the shuffle may be the way to go?