no g5 in january, if ever at all

[giovanni]

mac bidouille reports that MOT is having financial and production problems such that g5 in january are unlikely. In fact they report that IBM and AMD execs have been seen several times visiting Apple in cupertino, even though nobody knows what is being discussed.
Macbidouille goes on saying that clearly Apple is working on replacing a fading, disappointing MOT.

And I say: Apple !?!?!? shouldn't you have thought about this a bit earlier in the game ?

[ftaok]

Who's mac bidoulle?

[arn]

http://www.macbidouille.com

[ftaok]

Thanks!

[iGav]

How does one know what a IBM or AMD exec looks like?? Also how does one tell them apart???

[rickag]

Great

No Power4 derivative from IBM as per a NASA scientist and no G5 from Motorola as per mac bidouille.....
:(

But, wait, they did mention AMD @ mac bidouille.:rolleyes:

Somebody is not exactly telling the truth.:D

[rickag]

Originally posted by iGAV
How does one know what a IBM or AMD exec looks like?? Also how does one tell them apart???


Their alleged source at Apple would supposedly have allegedly known through their supposedly infomed alleged contact in the allegedly claimed department involved in the supposedly allegedly attended meetings.:)

ooooppppps

[drastik]

spotting specific execs is pretty hard, I have noticed that Cisco people have the name plasteredon their laptop cases, but other than that, and Novell guys wearing ugly t-shirts I'd be hard pressed to pick a specific exec out of the crowd.

[vniow]

Here's the exact (translated) text from the site:

According to an American source, that we will keep anonymous, the future of G5 is compromised.
Financial difficulties and of production of Motorola return its exit for difficult January trés.

People from IBM and AMD were seen on several occasions in the buildings of APPLE with Cupertino.
obviously, nothing filtered meetings which were held.

One would however say well that APPLE is actively seeking a substitute in failing Motorola.

So if this is accurate, (probably not) Moto's out and the next chip will be from IBM, AMD or some kind of new chip developed between the three. :)

[iGav]

Originally posted by rickag


Their alleged source at Apple would supposedly have allegedly known through their supposedly infomed alleged contact in the allegedly claimed department involved in the supposedly allegedly attended meetings.:)

ooooppppps

Oh......... I thought it might be because they were wearing suits...... something tells me Apple is a place where Suits would stick out like sore thumbs..... :p

[DaveGee]

Not that I expect anyone here to believe me since I'm not going to provide the kind of proof that people in general are going to expect.... That being said.

Apple along with it's cpu partner('s) have been working on the next big CPU jump for quite some time. A few **YEARS** in fact. Nothing has changed. Where these people get the idea that stuff like a MAJOR CPU update happens in a 3 to 6 month windows are totally off the freaking beam. We are talking YEARS folks. CPUs and new motherboards are not whipped up in a weekend with 6 guys and a few cases of beer.

The next CPU Apple is going to use began it's life sometime in 2000 and yep the baking process is still going on...

I'm gonna shut up now since I don't want to say anything more but all of this FUD and cloak-n-dagger crap is getting pretty silly.

My last bit of adivice... The comment about Apple not going with the Power4 chip should not be taken as if it came down from God himself... And thats all I'm gonna say on that topic.

Remember worrying is nothing but wasted energy... Kick back relax and enjoy the show. :D

D

[Gaz]

Originally posted by DaveGee
We are talking YEARS folks. CPUs and new motherboards are not whipped up in a weekend with 6 guys and a few cases of beer.

Damn it! Looks like I have to return the beer.

[arn]

Originally posted by DaveGee
Not that I expect anyone here to believe me since I'm not going to provide the kind of proof that people in general are going to expect.... That being said.

Remember worrying is nothing but wasted energy... Kick back relax and enjoy the show. :D


Thanks for the info, DaveGee

Overall, people generally should (and I think do) take each "rumor" with a grain of salt... and no single rumor should generally be taken as gosphel.

That being said, you can rate rumors in your head based on where they come from. This particular rumor didn't make it to the front page of macrumors for a reason.

There are always a few of the vocal minority which scream bloody-murder when a relatively extreme rumor is posted... but suspect that is the minority, and most people have some common sense about it all.

arn

[giovanni]

edvniow, your translation sux !
Mine was an intelligent translation - yours sound like a machine generated one (IOW, iditiotic !).

Sorry, I had to say.

ciao ciao

[giovanni]

well put Arn.

And I am still laughing at those people wondering how one could tell an IBM or AMD exec !!!!!

Are you guys still wondering ?

A few of you can be quite funny dudes, just a few.

[vniow]

Originally posted by giovanni
edvniow, your translation sux !
Mine was an intelligent translation - yours sound like a machine generated one (IOW, iditiotic !).

Sorry, I had to say.

ciao ciao

Well excuse me for not speaking French. :rolleyes:

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by iGAV
How does one know what a IBM or AMD exec looks like?? Also how does one tell them apart???
The way IBM and AMD are talked about on these boards, you can probably tell them apart from the Motorola execs by the glowing rings above their heads. :)

[Megaquad]

maybe they are just bringing groovy amd t-shirts,hats,pens etc. to steve :D

[barkmonster]

There's an easy way to tell which one's from AMD and which one's from IBM...

The IBM guy will be at least 6 ft 5in tall and built like arnie.

The AMD guy will be wearing 3D specs and a T Shirt with "when ?" written on the front and back.

IBM = Big Blue

AMD = 3D Now! (I was clutching at straws for that one)

[BJNY]

AppleP58,
Please shed some light on this subject of CPU's and motherboards. When will Apple WOW its faithful?
Billy

[solvs]

Originally posted by BJNY
AppleP58,
Please shed some light on this subject of CPU's and motherboards. When will Apple WOW its faithful?
Billy

He left because someone was mean to him.

Turns out he was right (mostly), but he still didn't have to leave. He should have stayed and shoved it in the guys face. Not that no one believed him (lots did), he just got scared and ran away when pressed for info, which made him look not so reliable.

I had my doubts about the color of the case he showed, it does look better in person though, now that it's here (Dual CD drives!!!).

He didn't seem to know much about the internals though (or if he did, he wasn't telling).

[Olorin]

Originally posted by DaveGee
Not that I expect anyone here to believe me since I'm not going to provide the kind of proof that people in general are going to expect.... That being said.

Apple along with it's cpu partner('s) have been working on the next big CPU jump for quite some time. A few **YEARS** in fact. Nothing has changed. Where these people get the idea that stuff like a MAJOR CPU update happens in a 3 to 6 month windows are totally off the freaking beam. We are talking YEARS folks. CPUs and new motherboards are not whipped up in a weekend with 6 guys and a few cases of beer.

The next CPU Apple is going to use began it's life sometime in 2000 and yep the baking process is still going on...

I'm gonna shut up now since I don't want to say anything more but all of this FUD and cloak-n-dagger crap is getting pretty silly.

My last bit of adivice... The comment about Apple not going with the Power4 chip should not be taken as if it came down from God himself... And thats all I'm gonna say on that topic.

Remember worrying is nothing but wasted energy... Kick back relax and enjoy the show. :D

D

Thank You DaveGee. You are smart not to say to much. A friend of mine got fired for posting info on a certain board. He had very bad luck.
With that said, I would like to back you up. I will post no proof but don't worry so much. Apple has been working on a replacement for quite some time now. You'll all be happy when it comes around. It won't be to much longer. Relax and enjoy the ride.

[ddtlm]

What's with all this reasonable talk? I thought we were supposed to believe every damn rumor we read!

Seriously, many people on this board blow this way and that like leaves in the wind.

I still am betting on the Power4-lite, it makes too much sense for Apple to leave on the side of the road. Not only that, but it is a real confirmed chip, unlike the Moto "G5" or "7460" or "7500", and furthermore it is suited to the task at hand, unlike the Moto 85xx series.

I for one do expect more advanced G4's to pop up; Moto's other customers love low energy and low heat as much as Apple, and such chips will be great for iMacs and laptops for years to come.

[Kethoticus]

There are always a few of the vocal minority which scream bloody-murder when a relatively extreme rumor is posted... but suspect that is the minority, and most people have some common sense about it all.

How long have you been managing a Mac website again?

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by solvs
He left because someone was mean to him.

I guess you are talking about me?

Turns out he was right (mostly), but he still didn't have to leave. He should have stayed and shoved it in the guys face.

Yeah, afterwards you always know if someone was right or not. But I still don't get why he should have shoved it up my face? If he would have been just a little bit more specific in what he was saying... but instead he was like "I know more, but I won't tell you!"

Not that no one believed him (lots did), he just got scared and ran away when pressed for info, which made him look not so reliable.

That was exactly the problem.

I had my doubts about the color of the case he showed, it does look better in person though, now that it's here (Dual CD drives!!!).

I also had my doubts and I am still sure that the case on the picture is white! Maybe because it was a prototype or whatever! I didn't have a problem to admit that I was wrong about the final color when the first official pictures were available. But when I see a green car on a picture, it is green for me and I only believe that it is blue, wehn I saw it with my own eyes... if you know what I mean...

He didn't seem to know much about the internals though (or if he did, he wasn't telling).

And he wouldn't have anyway! So the outcome would have been the same, no matter if he would have stayed or not...

Just to all the people who seem to have the need to rub that old story in again and again:
I contacted AppleP58 personally and apologized for being rude to him and never really intended to offend him personally. At the same time I asked him to think over his step to leave the forums. Neither I ever got an answer, nor he showed up again...

groovebuster

[iGav]

Originally posted by alex_ant

The way IBM and AMD are talked about on these boards, you can probably tell them apart from the Motorola execs by the glowing rings above their heads. :)

probably true as well... :p :p :p

[Nonosse]

...if i remember correctly, some 5 (10?) years ago, you could compare application forms and pamphlets from Apple and IBM and smile:
- IBM's was, well, "IBM-Like", with people wearing suits, ties, the whole pamphlet sounding professional (and boring),
- Apple's was based on the same structure (not unintentionally, i'd say), with more colours, more life, and people wearing more casual clothes, something of a parody.

Although i'm pretty sure it's wrong, i like to imagine them IBM guys in suits and shades, just like the bad guys in The Matrix... :D

Ok, I know, that works also for FBI style, or MIB, but hey, there's no trademark on dark suits... (and IBM guys won't have the bulk of a gun on the chest or under the armpit, maybe a little PDA...)

Arnaud :)

[peterj1967]

Just a little fuel for this discussion.

http://www.spymac.com/more.php?id=206_0_5_0_M

From Spymac (sorry)

We, the ever-speculating Apple faithful have missed a major piece of evidence pointing to the next Power Mac design. In fact, I would have to rank this unforgivable oversight as a "huge blunder."

We blew it.

How many of you recall the red-colored Apple Power Mac motherboard that was briefly listed on eBay three months ago, before being removed at the behest of Apple Legal?

How many of you also recall the Power Mac "prototype" that was briefly posted to a certain French web site, MacBidouille.com, the month prior to the actual release of the new machine? Again, Apple Legal pounced, and the photos and other documents were hurriedly taken down.

Now, how many of you recall that the new Power Mac, when released, was exactly the same machine originally shown in the leaked pictures?

One last question. Do you remember that the motherboard on eBay was the same motherboard layout as the one visible in the spy photo, and was the same motherboard layout that has now been released by Apple?

[ibjoshua]

Originally posted by peterj1967
Just a little fuel for this discussion.

http://www.spymac.com/more.php?id=206_0_5_0_M

From Spymac (sorry)...

interesting speculation that. ( and from spymac too! shock! horror! :eek: )
i seem to recall a statement recently that Apple would be reintroducing single processor powermacs in the future.

i_b_joshua

ps this will be my first century

[solvs]

Originally posted by groovebuster


I guess you are talking about me?

Yeah, afterwards you always know if someone was right or not. But I still don't get why he should have shoved it up my face? If he would have been just a little bit more specific in what he was saying... but instead he was like "I know more, but I won't tell you!"


I thought that was the fun of these sites. Annoymously flaming each other and getting into huge arguements over nothing, just to kiss and make-up 2 seconds later. ;) (please note sarcasm).

So maybe not shoved it in your face. Maybe just doing a little superiority dance and singing "See. I told you so" and then sticking his toungue out. :p He was being kinda immature anyway. (You're mean, I'm taking my ball and going home.)

Not that either of us was being very nice.

Don't forget, I was the one defending you. Though it was more because I was mad at him for the way he reacted. If you can't stand the heat, and all. I had my doubts, but mostly because he ran away at the slightest question of doubt. Believe me, it could have been much worse, as I'm sure you know.

He did wind up posting later on. Did the whole "See, I was right!!!" thing. I'll admit when I'm wrong (though I'm glad I was right about it not being that color), and I guess we shouldn't have doubted him.

But he didn't exactly give us much to trust him on, did he?

If you out there 58, come on back. Defend yourself for petesake. Gloat a little bit. You deserve it. Fight back.

Don't just run away cuz somebody offended your pride, or whatever. You posted something (unsubstantiated) at a rumors site. I mean, what were you expecting?

That's all I'm saying.