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Thomas Veil
Feb 16, 2005, 11:17 AM
We need to create a liberal-run TV network.

Let me be clear...I am not advocating a network that would slant the news and turn it into liberal propaganda. But I am continuously appalled at the way the so-called "liberal" media (the networks, various newspapers, etc.) almost completely ignore the idiocies, arrogances and outright crimes of the Bush administration.

Here's Joe Conason of The New York Observer talking about the Jeff Gannon scandal (http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp):

How did this character obtain a coveted place in the White House? What did the White House press staff know about him? How does his story fit within the larger scandal of payola punditry, with federal funds subsidizing Republican propagandists in the press corps? Did someone in the Bush administration give him a classified document?

Such questions are evidently of little concern to our liberal media outlets, whose leading lights prefer to deliver prim lectures about the unwarranted invasion of Mr. Guckert’s private affairs and his victimization for his conservative views. In fact, everything known about him comes from material he posted on public Web sites, but that’s beside the point.

Imagine the media explosion if a male escort had been discovered operating as a correspondent in the Clinton White House. Imagine that he was paid by an outfit owned by Arkansas Democrats and had been trained in journalism by James Carville. Imagine that this gentleman had been cultivated and called upon by Mike McCurry or Joe Lockhart—or by President Clinton himself. Imagine that this "journalist" had smeared a Republican Presidential candidate and had previously claimed access to classified documents in a national-security scandal.

Then imagine the constant screaming on radio, on television, on Capitol Hill, in the Washington press corps—and listen to the placid mumbling of the "liberal" media now. It just galls the hell out of me that this and every other crooked move by this administration is not being trumpeted by the "liberal" press. You know, Nixon looked like a piker compared to the crap being pulled by Bush, Rove, Cheney and others...and they crucified Nixon. What happened to our news outlets?

So I say it again...we need to ask well-to-do guys like George Soros to invest in a TV network that will not be afraid to ask tough questions and tell the truth. I firmly believe that, in today's chickens**t news environment, such a network would make a big splash. People are, after all, flocking to The Daily Show and Air America for their dose of non-bulls**t news.

If we don't come up with more truth-oriented media, and come up with them soon, then we are willingly allowing the brainwashing of America, and we deserve the butt-kicking we get from those Fascist neo-cons. :mad:



Xtremehkr
Feb 16, 2005, 01:15 PM
Who says the press is liberal anyway?

mactastic
Feb 16, 2005, 01:17 PM
Who says the press is liberal anyway?

The reich-wingnutters. But they say lots of things that aren't true. :eek:

:D

Xtremehkr
Feb 16, 2005, 01:22 PM
The reich-wingnutters. But they say lots of things that aren't true. :eek:

:D

Do you think there is a purpose there?

Do you think they want to discredit what little real reporting is done these days?

Do you think they are trying to cow the MSM?

I'm sure you do, but I thought it was worth repeating ;)

mactastic
Feb 16, 2005, 02:04 PM
Do you think there is a purpose there?

Do you think they want to discredit what little real reporting is done these days?

Do you think they are trying to cow the MSM?

I'm sure you do, but I thought it was worth repeating ;)

Hmmm... what possible incentive could they have to do such a thing?

Xtremehkr
Feb 16, 2005, 02:11 PM
Hmmm... what possible incentive could they have to do such a thing?

It's puzzling, everything they do is so good for the country :rolleyes:

Why would they need to put someone like Jeff Gannon in the Whitehouse press corp?

The questions he asked were so hard! and Talon News is where everyone in the know turns to get unbiased information. How could any news outlet owned by GOPUSA ever be bias?

IJ Reilly
Feb 16, 2005, 02:22 PM
The other night, the usually reliable NewsHour did a segment on the blogosphere's influence on the media. In the setup piece, they covered both the Eason/CNN and the Guckert/Gannon affairs. Then, when they got to the panel discussion, they spent the next ten minutes debating Eason's resignation. Neither the moderator nor the three guests mentioned Guckert/Gannon even once. I rarely find myself shouting at the TV while watching the NewsHour but I was livid.

Thomas Veil
Feb 16, 2005, 02:39 PM
Is anybody here old enough to remember The Washington Post's Watergate investigation? It was an exciting thing to watch. New stuff was coming out almost every day, usually on the front page.

And if they couldn't get a critical piece of information because Nixon was stonewalling, they'd print that on the front page. And it got to the point where nobody could ignore it anymore.

And that's the hump we can't get over. Because all these media outlets are afraid of getting their press credentials pulled, or simply because they're owned by big businesses, they won't push on any of the Bush scandal issues. That's why we can't rely on outlets like ABC or The New York Times.

Anti-Bush blogs and books are fine, but interest in them seems to die off quickly. That's why I think we need ongoing investigative reporting. I saw former Republican character assassin David Brock, who is now on the side of the angels, on C-Span's Book TV this weekend, and he said much the same thing.