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MacRumors
Sep 11, 2002, 12:30 AM
Vote: Poll:Do you agree with Apple's Decision to make Mac OS X-Only Macs after Jan 2003? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=27&ref=forums.macrumors.com)



vniow
Sep 11, 2002, 01:07 AM
If it gets those 3rd-party developers off their asses, then sure! :p
BTW, what's with the Poll:Do ?

ddtlm
Sep 11, 2002, 01:29 AM
edvniow:

Despite the obvious fact that Apple is the center of all good things in the universe which by definition means that anyone not in alignment with their plans is evil, I think it is safe to say that lasiness is not the cause of the slowness of certain apps to come to OSX. Would people be offended if I dared to suggest that OSX may not be "all that" for everyone?

To answer the question: no, I do not like Apple's OS9 decision.

SilvorX
Sep 11, 2002, 01:44 AM
im for apple getting rid of os9 but im in between modivating 3rd party developers n other reasons cuz os9 has been around since 98 or so, lots of appz arent available on osx natively yet, and it doesnt look like the school tech ppl like osx (one of them's 4 grand powerbook has os9 as the default os instead of osx tsk tsk tsk...)

vniow
Sep 11, 2002, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by ddtlm
edvniow:

Despite the obvious fact that Apple is the center of all good things in the universe which by definition means that anyone not in alignment with their plans is evil, I think it is safe to say that lasiness is not the cause of the slowness of certain apps to come to OSX. Would people be offended if I dared to suggest that OSX may not be "all that" for everyone?

To answer the question: no, I do not like Apple's OS9 decision.

WAAAAAAAHHH!! :rolleyes:

OS9 is a three year old OS and that's ancient in computer terms. Apple is sick of putting time, money and effort into supporting an OS which should have been gone months ago. Just because their new machines won't support OS9 doesn't mean their current ones won't Macs built before Jan. 2003 won't .explode when they release new hardware. If Apple's going to support OS9, they're going to have to support old hardware too, and that's not a good idea in the computer business. If you really need OS9, buy an older system instead of a new one.

iGav
Sep 11, 2002, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by edvniow


WAAAAAAAHHH!! :rolleyes:

OS9 is a three year old OS and that's ancient in computer terms. Apple is sick of putting time, money and effort into supporting an OS which should have been gone months ago. Just because their new machines won't support OS9 doesn't mean their current ones won't Macs built before Jan. 2003 won't .explode when they release new hardware. If Apple's going to support OS9, they're going to have to support old hardware too, and that's not a good idea in the computer business. If you really need OS9, buy an older system instead of a new one.

And so say all of us, and so say all of us.... for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow.... etc etc.....

I completely agree with Apple to start pushing OSX....... and yep I do think 3rd party developers are dragging their ar*s with developing some goodies for OSX....

We experienced the same uproar when Apple junked the floppy...... a subset of people went on the spaz, saying that it wqas a big mistake.... and that the floppy was still a useful storage device........ :p

With Apple junking OS9, they can begin to really focus on making their hardware and OSX the absolute nuts........

edesignuk
Sep 11, 2002, 05:36 AM
My god! I can't believe there are still people crying their eyes out at the fact that Apple won't support/build macs with OS9 in 2003!!!!
For god sake, how many OS's have m$ been through in the time of OS9 so far?
You can't expect a technology company to stand still just because you happen to like their ageing OS, things change...get used to it! :rolleyes:
Who know's, 3 yrs time OSX maybe being replaced by some new and even better OS technology to make the most of those Quad 4Ghz G5's ;) , will u all start bitching again then..."We want our OSX...even though it'll slow further development of the platform as a whole".
Give them a brake, Apple are not YOUR personal buddy, they are a business, just because you may like them to stay in the past doesn't mean they can afford to. Apple MUST get both their own (in terms of hardware development) and 3rd party developers a$$es in gear to keep up with the wintel world....a sad fact. :(
And there is no way they can do this if they continue supporting an old and out dated OS.

Mr. Anderson
Sep 11, 2002, 12:46 PM
A date needed to be set - that's as good as one as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe QuarkX will be out by then.

D

mischief
Sep 11, 2002, 12:50 PM
Fire=Good.

Change=Bad.

Some folks are more stuck in this pattern than others. Funny thing is: Without Change we wouldn't have Fire in the first place.....:eek: ;) :D :rolleyes:

rasha
Sep 11, 2002, 03:39 PM
I do not like this decision at all.

I could only support Apple on this if there was some sort of real serious technical reasons with new hardware to be released. Just forcing people into OSX is wrong.

edgecurve
Sep 11, 2002, 04:00 PM
Yes, I am all for burying OS 9 for good. Apple is making the right choice.

Ifeelbloated
Sep 11, 2002, 05:39 PM
Had to happen sooner or later. Rather it be sooner and get it over with than deal with it later. By the end of next year it should be better on the software side.

big
Sep 11, 2002, 05:43 PM
yes, or no, pending the actual question....umm bury OS9!

Go CUBS!

and ummmmm, always wear clean underwear

BongHits
Sep 12, 2002, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by rasha
I do not like this decision at all.

I could only support Apple on this if there was some sort of real serious technical reasons with new hardware to be released. Just forcing people into OSX is wrong.
as a former windows user, i can say dumping os 9 is the best move apple can make...im sorry but i associate os 9 with everything that i disliked about Mac's in the first place, and alot of people still think that os 9 is their current OS (when i tell people they need to try OS X and they look at me like 'what?' it's very scary). personally i think os 9 is only good for writing a paper or web browsing (and audio but os x still has some glitches apparently). who wants to sit around constantly tweaking ram in programs just so they can work on their school project??? not me thats for sure. and who wants to see that stupid error message wth a bomb forcing you to restart? who wants to crash their computer period!? and why not have everything just look nice and pretty (omg did i say that!?) for once. os 9 is plain fugly. i could go on and on...but os 9 NEEDED to be history a long time ago, 2003 is too late imo, but i guess os x still isn't ready for PRIME time (see audio glitches etc)

Bob Dobbs
Sep 13, 2002, 12:29 AM
no. i wish they give 9 one more pro machine. that way all the $$$ i have sunk into it could bump to a really faster machine.

i know change is good, but i can afford to upgrade it all and i dont really feel the recent machines are fast enough to justify a purchase right now (even if i could get the accounting dept to go for it)

sethypoo
Feb 7, 2004, 01:12 AM
Luckily they are still selling the Power Mac G4's with OS 9.

In 10 or so years they can retire OS 9 safely, I think.

Grimace
Feb 7, 2004, 01:27 AM
I wouldn't have considered touching a MAC on OS9 - it represented everything I had always disliked. OSX made me swoon.

Mav451
Feb 7, 2004, 01:32 AM
isn't OS 9 :: OS X the same as Windows 98 :: Windows XP?

A pretty obvious decision, with some slight S/W compatibility issues in the first year or so, but the better decision in the long run.

I don't think i've seen anyone running 98 in the last year or so (after building my brother's computer and leaving his 98 box in the confines of the basement silicon graveyard lol).

Maybe they should do what M$ did, and officially announce the end of support for OS 9 in the same way M$ did with 98 several years ago.

wdlove
Feb 7, 2004, 01:16 PM
I agree that Apple needs to move forward. In the near future they will abandon OS 9 except in Classic. Currently I'm running most of my programs in Classic. Haven't booted up in OS 9 since I had Panther installed on January 26th, 1st time on X.

TheMacOS.com
Mar 16, 2004, 10:01 PM
Yes, the old OS was way outdated and crashed way too often. Im glad its gone!

I have to admit... it was hard letting go... but im glad I did.

wdlove
Mar 17, 2004, 03:26 PM
Yes, the old OS was way outdated and crashed way too often. Im glad its gone!

I have to admit... it was hard letting go... but im glad I did.

I was exactly the same way. The hardest decision for em was to make the change. Now that I'm on X, I would hate to have to go back. I have been all X with my software for 2 weeks. So haven't even used Classic. Now it is a great joy.

Chip NoVaMac
Mar 17, 2004, 04:23 PM
Didn't have many issues under the OS 8 days. Though the OS X is even better. I just did the upgrade to 10.3.3 and was worried Having my 12" PB since November or so. So far 10.3.3 is as stable as what I found in 10.3.2, which was very good. Some of the changes will change how I look at networks. Yet it will also allow for even easier use. I wish Windows updates offerd as much.

virividox
Mar 17, 2004, 04:38 PM
hey OS X is the way to go. i doubt mac will ever stop supporting its older systems, but i dont want them to continue to develop for it at the expense of newer ones

edesignuk
Mar 17, 2004, 04:52 PM
ARGH! :eek: This must be some kind of record, thread revival from 2002! :eek: :eek:

ebuddy889
Apr 2, 2004, 12:51 AM
Vote: Poll:Do you agree with Apple's Decision to make Mac OS X-Only Macs after Jan 2003? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=27&ref=forums.macrumors.com)

I don't know if any of you noticed, but OS 9 provided a serious security leak for those machines that could boot in both OS 9 and OS X. If you have a machine that has X on it, and it can support 9 becareful. People can boot with an OS 9 CD or another partion with OS 9 and gain access to all levels of the OS X partion. Many problems can arise from accessing OS X partions while booted under OS 9. The elemination of 9 being able to boot on machines built after 2003 is a major decision and I'm sure it wasn't taken lightly. Also applications that were meant for OS 9, but would run in classic mode can cause problems. Not all but some apps designed for OS 9 can wreak havock on OS X while running classic mode as apposed to booting in OS 9. Plus it was never Apple's intentions for developers to port thier apps for Classic as opposed to just OS 9 or just OS X. In essences, for a short time there were three OS supported simultaneously by Apple, OS 9.2.2, OS X 10.1-10.2.8, and Classic mode OS 9. How long did you really expect this to last?



I'd buy a G5 but I'm not rich.....

Sparky's
Apr 10, 2004, 02:07 PM
Vote: Poll:Do you agree with Apple's Decision to make Mac OS X-Only Macs after Jan 2003? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=27&ref=forums.macrumors.com)

Then why now April 10 2004 can you still purchase a brand new G4 from the Apple Store that still is OS 9 supported? and G5s still runs Classic OS 9?

and tell me I didn't just put my foot in my mouth again :confused: