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Dimwhit
Mar 13, 2011, 11:00 AM
I'm curious about Launch Pad. I understand how it works, but when you arrange apps into folders, etc., does it physically move the applications into folders? In other words, does the folder structure in the Applications folder itself change into the subfolders and you group apps, or is Launch Pad basically using aliases of all the apps and not altering the original app's location?



celticpride678
Mar 13, 2011, 12:21 PM
Nope - LaunchPad folders aren't created in the actual Applications folder.

RobertD63
Mar 13, 2011, 12:55 PM
Off topic but, I've used Lion for about a week now on and off, and I've never used Launch Pad. It seems... Useless..

ufkdo
Mar 13, 2011, 02:15 PM
I also have a question about launchpad. Are you able to put folders created in launchpad to dock? If this folder thing does not work with dock, I think launchpad is not really necessary.

bedifferent
Mar 13, 2011, 02:22 PM
I've noticed a few things

- Applications appear that are no longer installed (removed everything from all libraries including install receipts)

- Renaming folders causes Launchpad to crash

- Empty folders cannot be deleted

- Deleted icons return after reboot

- Initial setup takes a long time as the OS throws app icons all over the place, creating 10+ pages with one or two icons (should be an option to select multiple icons)

Adding the folder to the dock, wouldn't that be similar to a stack? Just creat a folder in Finder with your app's and drag it to the dock. I use stack overlays (http://www.geocities.jp/chy065/) to identify stacks as the first item is always the one that shows making it difficult to differentiate a lot of stacks.

ufkdo
Mar 13, 2011, 02:35 PM
Yes, it is similar but we can't put stacks to left side (application side) of dock as far as I know. And if launchpad does that, it would be graphically better etc.

Cougarcat
Mar 13, 2011, 02:51 PM
Yes, it is similar but we can't put stacks to left side (application side) of dock as far as I know. And if launchpad does that, it would be graphically better etc.

You can add Recent Applications/Documents/Volumes/Favorites Stack to the left side with terminal: (or Secrets (http://secrets.blacktree.com/).) Add as many as you want.

defaults write com.apple.dock persistent-apps -array-add-multiple


Launchpad doesn't look any better than stacks, IMO.

ufkdo
Mar 13, 2011, 03:35 PM
You can add Recent Applications/Documents/Volumes/Favorites Stack to the left side with terminal: (or Secrets (http://secrets.blacktree.com/).) Add as many as you want.

defaults write com.apple.dock persistent-apps -array-add-multiple


Launchpad doesn't look any better than stacks, IMO.

I didn't knew that, thanks. Than launchpad seems completely unnecessary (I never used lion but I feel that impression)

Cougarcat
Mar 13, 2011, 03:37 PM
I didn't knew that, thanks. Than launchpad seems completely unnecessary (I never used lion but I feel that impression)

Your impression is correct. It seems like the only reason it exists is to have a place for App Store purchases to (visually) go to without overflowing your dock.

HawaiiMacAddict
Mar 13, 2011, 03:51 PM
One interesting thing about Launch Pad is that when you install an app from the Mac App Store, Launch Pad is invoked and the app flies from the Mac App Store window to Launch Pad (instead of the Dock). From there, you can create folders just like on an iOS device and organize your apps that way.

Right now, the only way to delete app icons from Launch Pad is to use this key combination:

Shift-Control-Option-Command and left-click on the icon. Note that this only deletes the icon from Launch Pad, not from Lion. What I do is delete the app normally, then enter the above key combo to remove the icon from Launch Pad and I'm all set.

I'm not sure of the limit for apps within each folder, but I've seen as many as eight apps across before another row is created. I really like Launch Pad, but wish there was a gesture to invoke it. Maybe in the next developer preview?

Cougarcat
Mar 13, 2011, 03:58 PM
. I really like Launch Pad, but wish there was a gesture to invoke it. Maybe in the next developer preview?

Do a pinch with all your fingers.

HawaiiMacAddict
Mar 13, 2011, 03:59 PM
Do a pinch with all your fingers.

thanks for that - I don't know how I missed that one!

PBF
Mar 13, 2011, 04:06 PM
I find Launchpad extremely useless. Haven't used it even once since February 24th.

Spotlight does all the work, and extremely well.

HawaiiMacAddict
Mar 13, 2011, 04:07 PM
Do a pinch with all your fingers.

I just booted up into Lion to try it out - the four-finger pinch works really well on my MacBook Pro and will be even better on my Magic Trackpad (as it's bigger). One thing I really like about Lion is the emphasis on multitouch. Yes, you're going to have to learn a few new gestures, but that's the direction Apple's been heading since the advent of the original iPhone. I haven't tried this on my Magic Mouse, but I can't imagine that it would be easier than simply using the Magic Mouse to click on the Launch Pad icon in the dock.

HawaiiMacAddict
Mar 13, 2011, 08:28 PM
I find Launchpad extremely useless. Haven't used it even once since February 24th.

Spotlight does all the work, and extremely well.

To each their own, then. I have my apps organized into specific folders and using Launch Pad is, to me, becoming more a part of my workflow. No doubt there are tons of people on both sides of this issue. I'm just glad that Apple has built in both approaches for us to use.

mrblack927
Mar 13, 2011, 10:06 PM
I just hope they allow you to disable launchpad and/or remove it from the dock in the future. Let mac app store purchases just fly into the dock like they do in 10.6. And I can't believe that they would make the launchpad a "permanent icon" on the dock. You can do whatever you want with your dock but you have to leave launchpad there? Really?

iCheddar
Mar 18, 2011, 06:48 AM
One thing that I haven't been able to figure out yet is how to move icons in launchpad from one page to another.

There's no 'shakey mode' in launchpad like there is in iOS.

What am I missing?

bedifferent
Mar 18, 2011, 10:41 AM
One thing that I haven't been able to figure out yet is how to move icons in launchpad from one page to another.

There's no 'shakey mode' in launchpad like there is in iOS.

What am I missing?

It's tricky. You need to hold the icon and "push" it to the page you want to place it in. It's similar to what a window/app into a nearby space. Sometimes it doesn't take and you have to try again. The downside is that you can only move one icon at a time at this point, much like iOS. To delete an icon/app you don't want, press control+option+command and select the icon with your mouse.

Another issue, removed apps reappear after a restart and empty folders don't disappear/delete.

In the Applications Finder window, you can organize your apps by category. Select "Arrange" and then "Application Category", very similar to "All My Files" ("Arrange" may not be in the Finder toolbar by default, so right-click to customize and add it). Finder has preset categories such as "Images", "Media", "Productivity", and "Other". A lot of apps fall into "Other", but if you hold the icon and drag it to the correct category and don't let go for 2-3 seconds, it will be moved into that category. Not sure what this will bring in the future.

lee14160
Mar 18, 2011, 08:31 PM
During the first couple of days I used launchpad to get a feel of how it worked; now I do not use it at all. The reason being is 90% of the apps I use are on the dock, and since I have to go to the dock to launch launchpad there is no reason to run it. Those few that aren't can be found just as easily in the apps folder on the dock.

If they had a way (not found one yet) of setting up a keystroke to bring up the launchpad then it would make since to use it (maybe on the next set of Mac compters/laptops they will configure a keystroke in).

PBF
Mar 18, 2011, 09:19 PM
During the first couple of days I used launchpad to get a feel of how it worked; now I do not use it at all. The reason being is 90% of the apps I use are on the dock, and since I have to go to the dock to launch launchpad there is no reason to run it. Those few that aren't can be found just as easily in the apps folder on the dock.

If they had a way (not found one yet) of setting up a keystroke to bring up the launchpad then it would make since to use it (maybe on the next set of Mac compters/laptops they will configure a keystroke in).
I'm sure future betas (as well as the final release obviously) will let you assign any key combination to trigger Launchpad.

For now, it can be triggered only in two ways:
1. Four-finger pinch
2. Any of the four hot corners

superstrikertwo
Mar 19, 2011, 02:00 AM
I actually like Launchpad a whole lot more than the App Folder in the Dock. Launches faster and shows pretty much everything at one (unless you have a lot of apps).

poobear
Mar 19, 2011, 04:48 AM
Gaaah I installed MS Office 2011 and got a Bunch of crap in the Launch Pad, Equation Editor, Microsoft Graph, Microsoft Clip Gallery etc. Why o why MS...

Fishrrman
Mar 19, 2011, 08:52 AM
Question:
Can Launchpad be removed from the Dock?
If so, how do you do it?

PBF
Mar 19, 2011, 10:51 AM
Question:
Can Launchpad be removed from the Dock?
No, not in the current beta.

iCheddar
Mar 19, 2011, 01:12 PM
I'm still struggling to find a use for Launchpad.

I've used quicksilver since I became a Mac user, so I've just always used that as an application launcher. I really want to like and use Launchpad, but for now, I just can't get myself to use it.

superstrikertwo
Mar 19, 2011, 01:19 PM
I'm still struggling to find a use for Launchpad.

I've used quicksilver since I became a Mac user, so I've just always used that as an application launcher. I really want to like and use Launchpad, but for now, I just can't get myself to use it.

It's just a replacement for the Application Folder in the dock. Nothing else.

Dimwhit
Mar 19, 2011, 03:05 PM
It's just a replacement for the Application Folder in the dock. Nothing else.

I'm excited for just that reason. I don't like having the App folder in the dock currently. Too many subfolders, etc. For the few times I need access to that folder for an app that I don't have in the dock, I think LaunchPad will be great. At least I hope so.

KirkL
Mar 19, 2011, 06:07 PM
I'm excited for just that reason. I don't like having the App folder in the dock currently. Too many subfolders, etc. For the few times I need access to that folder for an app that I don't have in the dock, I think LaunchPad will be great. At least I hope so.

I don't see how LaunchPad is better than the Apps stack in the Dock :confused:

ivnj
Mar 19, 2011, 06:43 PM
Don't worry about that. Just make a separate folder called app2 or something like that. And put only the apps you use in there or aliases. Then put that on the dock and right click. Arrange it by to view contents by grid. When you click on the stack looks just like launch pad.

Apple Big Mac
Jun 14, 2011, 01:38 AM
Launch Pad seems like a half-baked feature they threw in to make Mac OS X more "iPad-like" as the marketing literature says. Hopefully they'll work out the bugs noted in this thread before the 10.7.0 release. It seems like it would be a good feature for someone like my mom who can generally utilize her system but is by no means a power user/geek. Other than that, I see it being ignored by more advanced users in favor of existing launching methods.

duyvan82
Jun 14, 2011, 01:46 AM
Launchpad doesn't seem to be picking up apps that aren't in the Applications folder. It ignores all my games stored in ~/Games/, isn't it supposed to show all the apps currently on your Mac? I'm pretty sure Steve or Phil said so during the keynotes

wesleyh
Jun 14, 2011, 04:18 AM
Launchpad doesn't seem to be picking up apps that aren't in the Applications folder. It ignores all my games stored in ~/Games/, isn't it supposed to show all the apps currently on your Mac? I'm pretty sure Steve or Phil said so during the keynotes

Is there a Games folder in 10.7?

MRiOS
Jun 14, 2011, 08:53 AM
Is there a Games folder in 10.7?
No there isn't. That;s a custom folder I suspect the user created to consolidate their games from regular applications. Why they set it outside the applications folder, I'm not sure.

I rather like the launch pad, It's far easier to use than the Stack, especially with trackpads. I've found that it's far easier to get to things in launch pad than it is to fling the cursor over to the side where I keep my dock. I've relegated my dock to holding the trash bin and showing which applications are running, it works great!

roland.g
Jun 14, 2011, 11:18 AM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. In Leopard, Snow Leopard or even Lion, you can't just create subfolders in the Applications folder and then drag those to the dock in stacks? The Applications need to stay in the installed hierarchy of the Applications folder all in one big list?

I would prefer to put a stacks by category in the dock on the left side, which I think is how Steve originally previewed them in the first preview of 10.5 Leopard. But I think there was an issue with how that App would show when running (would the stack light up, would it jump out of the stack when you launched it etc.) so I think they scrapped that functionality. I still wouldn't mind having them by category on the right side.

At one point I went through the pain of entering a terminal command to hide the alias arrow, then made aliases of all my apps that I wanted to categorize and put those in folders in my user library, then pulled those folders into my dock as stacks in grid view. I left them as stacked app icons vs a row of folders, so when I opened the stack of iLife+ I would get all my iTunes and other photo/video apps. And so on. The bummer about the Apps folder as its own stack is having all the icons to all your apps in a grid, which I have come to prefer over the older list view, because my grid extends and has to be scrolled. I just want a nice visual organizable view, and while it seems like LaunchPad would achieve this, I don't like the look for iOS style folders filled with icons. I would prefer to create a separate page for each "folder" or category of Apps and swipe through them. And the stuff I rarely use would not go into LaunchPad, which is why I don't like the bug or design flaw of having them come back after restart. ** Which seems dumb since a restart in Lion should be a Resume, leaving everything how you put it, not reverting the LaunchPad back!! **

roland.g
Jun 14, 2011, 11:19 AM
I've relegated my dock to holding the trash bin and showing which applications are running, it works great!

I like this idea. In concept...

Miek
Jun 14, 2011, 11:56 AM
Question:
Can Launchpad be removed from the Dock?
If so, how do you do it?

I run Lion DP4 and it's possible to remove the Launchpad from the dock (I use swedish version and the menu are Remove from Dock):

paris18m
Jun 14, 2011, 03:54 PM
dont know why everyone is bitching about LaunchPad

IMHO its one of the thing i will be/i am using with Lion

1. launchpad is far far better than having a stack showign all your apps.
2. you can organize them with the most useful apps you use ofthen on the first screen and less important ones in the pages further down,
3. if you have toooo many apps and want more on you first screen jsut created folder grouping apps together.
4. helps you free up your dock with apps that you dont use tooo ofthen, they are gonna be in your lauchpad 1st page if they are important so they are only 2 clicks away! or a swipe and a click away!
5. ability to organize your apps will certainly help boost productivity. i remember endless times srolling throught my apps folder in order to fidn an audio editing tool i didnt even remeber its name. now with launchpad an audio/music folder can hold all those apps in an order that makes sence for me. nice and tidy
6.it bring the simplicity of arganizing apps,launching them and deleting them to the OSX. ts simply a blessign and not a curse.
7. still hate it? jsut drag it out of the dock and forget about it! apple is not focing you to use this! its just there if you like it!

xgman
Jun 15, 2011, 09:33 AM
I've noticed a few things

- Applications appear that are no longer installed (removed everything from all libraries including install receipts)

- Renaming folders causes Launchpad to crash

- Empty folders cannot be deleted

- Deleted icons return after reboot

- Initial setup takes a long time as the OS throws app icons all over the place, creating 10+ pages with one or two icons (should be an option to select multiple icons)



I agree. Apple should be embarrassed about this. It's so un-Apple like. Seems like no thought whatsoever went in to it.

Lord Appleseed
Jun 15, 2011, 11:14 AM
I agree. Apple should be embarrassed about this. It's so un-Apple like. Seems like no thought whatsoever went in to it.

Are you just trolling our did you really not see that this post was from 3 Months ago, probably referring to DP1?

MACza
Jun 15, 2011, 12:09 PM
I'm still struggling to find a use for Launchpad.

I've used quicksilver since I became a Mac user, so I've just always used that as an application launcher. I really want to like and use Launchpad, but for now, I just can't get myself to use it.

Ditto. I am new to Mac, and since I discovered quicksilver, I mostly do not even use the dock. I just launch everything with QS. So much quicker than pushing around the mouse.Not to mention all the other useful things it can do that I am still learning. QS should be part of the OS by default.

Just my 2c.

BlackMangoTree
Jun 15, 2011, 12:57 PM
LaunchPad is DOA.

Lion is nothing to get excited about.

Still very poor windows management.

Windows is looking better everyday.

Windows 7 taskbar poos all over the dock.

Lord Appleseed
Jun 15, 2011, 01:04 PM
LaunchPad is DOAWat

Lion is nothing to get excited about.Wat

Still very poor windows management.:eek:!

Windows is looking better everyday....

Windows 7 taskbar poos all over the dock.Oh I love you trolls <3

awulf
Jun 16, 2011, 01:23 AM
Launch Pad appears to be for the more less tech savvy people. Who want to see what they got, rather than type it out, or go searching through the app folder. Most of us on here (such as myself) use a quick launcher app (quicksilver, alfred, etc) or just spot light.

Launch Pad is no new concept to Mac OS, look at classic Mac OS, the Launcher came in System 7.
http://lowendmac.com/misc/11mr/art/launcher.gif

I used to use Launcher a lot back in classic Mac OS, when transitioning over to OS X, I used an app called Drag Thing, which was basically the launcher for OS X. But then Quicksilver came along, and made that obsolete for me.

MobiusStrip
Jul 17, 2011, 05:07 PM
After installing Lion, I started installing apps. And I have yet to see one appear in Launchpad. This thing doesn't work at all.

The documentation clearly says that Launchpad shows all the apps on your Mac. WRONG.

And if Launchpad doesn't reflect the contents of the Application folder, there's no excuse for the lack of a context menu that allows us to remove items from Launchpad.

This is a mess.

So far the one improvement in Lion is the common-sense function that the Mac has been missing for well over two decades: You can finally resize windows from their edges.

sandylp
Jul 20, 2011, 10:42 AM
After installing Lion, I noticed that Launchpad has multiple icons for my applications. I've looked all over the internet but all suggestions to remove the duplicate icons have failed. Has anyone else experienced this and how did you remove the duplicates? Thanks

legarejp
Jul 22, 2011, 10:28 AM
The documentation clearly says that Launchpad shows all the apps on your Mac. WRONG.

Ya I know, Launchpad is filled with bugs and lack some features. To fix your problem, resetting your Launchpad Database (.db) in ~/Library/Application Support/Dock/*.db should force Launchpad to rescan your Applications folder for non-MAS apps. Just search the forums here, there's plenty of tutorials to do so.

As to hide things, I did find a temporary fix until Apple do something, but it's a bit odd, DB modification :cool:. I have no idea how Launchpad will react over the days to that but yet it works fine for now!

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1194015

MobiusStrip
Aug 1, 2011, 06:40 PM
Thanks. I just got rid of Launchpad entirely and dragged the Applications folder back into the Dock.

It's sad to see Apple wasting time on the crap they've polluted Lion with, when they still don't have basic features like an uninstaller. Or a competent file browser.

monkeymajik
Aug 1, 2011, 08:15 PM
just my opinion, i think launchpad is created to work with full screen apps.

When i use safari in full screen, i often use launchpad to run apps since dock bar is not shown in full screen.

Bensalama21
Aug 1, 2011, 09:56 PM
I have found Launchpad extremely helpful finding my couple hundred applications a lot easier. I was also able to clean out my dock. My launchpad is organized in a neat way where I can access any program I have, from CS5 to system preferences to activity monitor, fast.

Bensalama21
Aug 1, 2011, 09:57 PM
just my opinion, i think launchpad is created to work with full screen apps.

When i use safari in full screen, i often use launchpad to run apps since dock bar is not shown in full screen.

When in full screen, just move the mouse to the bottom of the screen then when it touches the bottom wall, move it down even more and it will pop up!