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foofan
Feb 21, 2005, 10:19 PM
I ran into a friend of mine who works at Apple, while at Sacramento state. He said 2 models being updated with a new model. Coming out this week or next at latest.

1.8 ghz 17 inch iMac
2.0 ghz 20 inch iMac
and new 2.5 ghz 23 inch iMac

You heard it here first!



nospleen
Feb 21, 2005, 10:26 PM
I hope this is true, I would buy the 23" right away.

dongmin
Feb 21, 2005, 10:58 PM
I ran into a friend of mine who works at Apple, while at Sacramento state. He said 2 models being updated with a new model. Coming out this week or next at latest.

1.8 ghz 17 inch iMac
2.0 ghz 20 inch iMac
and new 2.5 ghz 23 inch iMac

You heard it here first!ummm, they go from 1.8 to 2.0 to 2.5??? seems rather unlikely. my bet would be for a 2.3 a la Xserves.

SteveC
Feb 21, 2005, 11:05 PM
I ran into a friend of mine who works at Apple, while at Sacramento state. He said 2 models being updated with a new model. Coming out this week or next at latest.

1.8 ghz 17 inch iMac
2.0 ghz 20 inch iMac
and new 2.5 ghz 23 inch iMac

You heard it here first!
Well, that would be great news, and the 1.8 & 2.0 sound very reaslistic, but the 2.5 does sound a little high. That's a big gap. I would NOT mind a 2.5 at all though. ;) The faster the better...

Do you think your friend really knows though? Apple is ultra secretive and it seems like the only people who know in advance are execs.

I am one of the people who will be placing an order as soon as there's an iMac update.

VAmin
Feb 21, 2005, 11:23 PM
Me too... as soon as the next iMac comes out, I'm getting a maxed-out top-of-the-line machine. Can't wait!

dotdotdot
Feb 21, 2005, 11:26 PM
Well a 23" 2.5 G5 will defidantly not be "just two inches thick" - heck, it probably won't be "just five inches thick"

aswitcher
Feb 21, 2005, 11:31 PM
I ran into a friend of mine who works at Apple, while at Sacramento state. He said 2 models being updated with a new model. Coming out this week or next at latest.

1.8 ghz 17 inch iMac
2.0 ghz 20 inch iMac
and new 2.5 ghz 23 inch iMac

You heard it here first!


I guess a 23" is saleable given the price will be signficant. 2.5Ghz is a bit if a surprise...and I too agree that it will need liquid cooling so its unlikely to stay 2" thick...

I tend to doubt this is going to happen but would be happily surprised if it does.

rtdgoldfish
Feb 21, 2005, 11:40 PM
Hope it does happen. If it does, I will pick up a 1.6gHz 17". I hope they drop down to $999 in either the special deals section of the Apple store or maybe even CompUSA. They always seem to give at least a $100 price drop on old models.

cyanide
Feb 22, 2005, 12:23 AM
Well a 23" 2.5 G5 will defidantly not be "just two inches thick" - heck, it probably won't be "just five inches thick" I am not sure, but i think with the extra screen real estate, there would be more of an area to alleviate the stresses of heat the g5 would let off. remember this would be a single processor too.. not like those oven hot dualies.

Daveway
Feb 22, 2005, 12:31 AM
"Come Down to Earth people!!!!!"

We all know that there is now way a 2.5 G5 or 23" display are going into the iMacs.
C'mon 2.5ghz? That were the top-o-line PM is right now, this is a CONSUMER machine.
23" still too much for a consumer machine.

dotdotdot
Feb 22, 2005, 12:37 AM
23" still too much for a consumer machine.

How so?

The 23" would be a hit if it isn't too expensive...

Phatpat
Feb 22, 2005, 12:43 AM
Problem is it probably would be too expensive. The lcd alone will run well above $1000. Apple's is $1800...

cyanide
Feb 22, 2005, 06:37 PM
sheesh. where is apple with that smaller, cheaper LCD? i agree with the above post. this is a no-go.

auxplage
Feb 22, 2005, 06:51 PM
My reasoning is obviously flawed, but a 20" monitor sells for $999. They sell the iMac 20" for $1899 with a lower quality display. The display is roughly 53% of the total price - this is all just theoretical at what is costs the consumer. A 23" Apple monitor sales for $1799, so if one gets rid of the high definition which would obviously lower the price it would be less to make. For the purpose of this lets just say it is $1799 for the monitor alone then the price of the iMac 23" with the same proportion of the cost from the monitor would be around $3499. This could easily be lower to around to lower than $3000 with the absence of high definition and the ever falling price of LCDs (Apple displays prices could be lowered again). I would predict $2499 or $2799, and they will sell like mad.

wwooden
Feb 22, 2005, 08:41 PM
I don't think a 2.5GHz in the iMac would make it that much bigger. They have a 2.3GHz in the XServe and it is horizontal, a 2.5GHz in a with vertical position will remove more heat, nature would help out. Saying that, I think it would be a 2.3GHz, unless they really bump the G5 towers. I can't imagine they would bump the iMac to 2.5 and bump the G5 to only 2.8GHz.

SteveC
Feb 22, 2005, 09:05 PM
OK so what do you all think? "Yes" or "No" to new iMacs tomorrow?

(Considering thinksecret hasn't posted anything definite about them being updated tomorrow...)

Think the update will be pushed back? Next week?

LimitedEdition
Feb 22, 2005, 09:06 PM
It's not realistic...

octoberdeath
Feb 22, 2005, 09:11 PM
Well I have been trying to convince my father into getting a Mac so that I don't have to worry about upgrading his Dell and keeping it running a few months from now. I have even gotten the Mac tech at a local CompUSA to talk to him about the 20" iMac and everything it can do. My dad looked intrigued and really liked Garage Band (he used to be in a band back in the day and plays guitar for our Church band now) and would like to be able to record some music. But due to the fact that he doesn't use his current computer very often (because well it's a Dell and nothing ever seems be easy to him on it) he said if he were going to purchase a new computer it would be the last one he would ever own. So he said that if they released an iMac with a bigger screen, perferible and most unlikely a 30" screen, that he wouldn't think twice about it and it would be the first thing on his to do list the day they came out. I say bring on the larger screens cause I know I would buy one and so would my dad.

SBG88
Feb 22, 2005, 09:20 PM
My friend goes to Alcorn state and confirms this...

NOT A CHANCE.

Phat_Pat
Feb 22, 2005, 09:27 PM
23 inches is very reasonable (i think, but not at this moment)and it probably will be released later.

But 2.5....... yeah right... :rolleyes:

mklos
Feb 22, 2005, 09:34 PM
Of course there will be an iMac G5 update! I just bought one! It never fails!!!!

I'm not counting on a 2.5 GHz iMac, nor a 23" screen. I would believe a 2 GHz 17 and 20" model with a 1.8 GHz low end 17" iMac. I would also like to see better graphics cards. It would be great if Apple would put something like an ATI Radeon 9600XT graphics card in them, and put the 5200 Ultra in the 1.8 GHz low end 17" model. Slot loading 8x SuperDrives should also be in the next update along with 512MB Standard, and optional bluetooth 2.0.

But like I said...this will probably all happen just because I JUST (as in today!) bought a new iMac G5. Happens to me every time!

keysersoze
Feb 22, 2005, 09:45 PM
NFW.

That stands for No Way.

Brian Hickman
Feb 22, 2005, 09:54 PM
Tomorrow....NEW Mitsubishi manufactured 80" rear projection DLP iMac!!!!

You heard it here first.

Hickman

;)

miloblithe
Feb 22, 2005, 10:22 PM
I can't understand why anyone would buy an all-in-one computer in which the $1000+ screen would be rendered out-of-date years before it should because it is tied to a computer that will be out of date in 3-4 years. 17" iMac makes enough sense and is well priced. 20" is silly. 23" would be for suckers.

wide
Feb 22, 2005, 10:25 PM
My reasoning is obviously flawed, but a 20" monitor sells for $999. They sell the iMac 20" for $1899 with a lower quality display. The display is roughly 53% of the total price - this is all just theoretical at what is costs the consumer. A 23" Apple monitor sales for $1799, so if one gets rid of the high definition which would obviously lower the price it would be less to make. For the purpose of this lets just say it is $1799 for the monitor alone then the price of the iMac 23" with the same proportion of the cost from the monitor would be around $3499. This could easily be lower to around to lower than $3000 with the absence of high definition and the ever falling price of LCDs (Apple displays prices could be lowered again). I would predict $2499 or $2799, and they will sell like mad.

Well, at least we know that a 23 inch iMac would not cost more than the $3499.

Let's assume that the actually LCD part of the 23 inch display costs $1000, and the 2.5 GHz processor and other internals would cost $1000 dollars as well. Then let's assume a 10 percent profit margin (more than what Apple has) = $2199? That's my bet. Anything that is $100 dollars higher or lower than $2199 would be a good selling price, too. Just very rough estimations.

Apple's profit margins (in general, not line-specific) can be calculated at http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=AAPL)

maya
Feb 22, 2005, 10:36 PM
I can see a 23" iMac G5 HD for sure @ 2.0GHz. No 2.3 or 2.5GHz yet, maybe at the end of this year. ;) :)

Remember year of HD people. :)

I also believe the 17" iMac G5 model will be replaced with a 20". So only two display sizes 20" and 23" HD. Only two speeds 1.8GHz and 2.0GHz, and in three models entry, mid, high. the iMac has been a PROsumer line since the introduction of the eMac and now Mac mini.

The G5 chip really is better spread out in more surface area and the 17" does not offer this. Most of the issues were related to the 17" 1.8GHz model.

If a 2.0/2.3GHz G5 with a 23" HD screen is offered, that machine will sell like hot cakes. And that is the whole point of it all. ;) :)

Cost is not an issues, as Dell already has a 23" display for far less then Apple offers. All this means is that Apple will either lower the Cinema Displays price once again. :D

miloblithe
Feb 22, 2005, 10:36 PM
2199 would make the 23" iMac $400 more than the 23" display. The 20" iMac is $900 more than the 20" display. If they narrowed the gap to $700, that would be amazing. That would still put the 23" iMac at $2499.

auxplage
Feb 22, 2005, 11:51 PM
$2499 just seems right to me. I mean it is really expensive, but it will last a really long time. If they would be below that price, then Apple would do it yet again (all speculation of course).

iJon
Feb 23, 2005, 12:29 AM
Here is a little common sense tip for everyone. If someone has a friend who works for Apple who is so high up that he knows about new products than he is smart enough to not tell his friend.

jon

RandomDeadHead
Feb 26, 2005, 05:17 AM
um, reading this made me remember another post foofan created two years ago.

17" iBooks next week!!!!
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=35212

Fredstar
Feb 26, 2005, 05:53 AM
This is ridiculous, Apple are renowned for overprotecting their product lines so they don't compete with each other. A 2.5ghz imac with a 23 inch display would not only be too much and too expensive for the consumer many pro's would go with it.
Also imac's are not being updated, it was as supply issue

WinterMute
Feb 26, 2005, 07:07 AM
This is humour on the same level as a wedgie...

Pease do not post these pointless, annoying threads.

If you want to satrt a debate about the possibility of a certain product from Apple, ask the question, don't post false information.