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leonw
Mar 25, 2011, 10:26 AM
I know there are many opinions on this subject but I wonder about a few things: why threw apple the backlit keyboard on the mba out in the first place? Was it: -space
-battery life
-weight
-costs
and is there any chance they might throw it in again? It's worth the wait for me.
Using an 13"mbp from a friend now. The 11"mba would be more than good enough for my needs but i would really miss the backlit keyboard.
I'm no good at typing and most of the time I live without electricity so the backlit keyboard is a great feature to me in the winter/evenings.



scyon
Mar 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
If you want an Apple laptop with a backlit keyboard and an SSD Apple does have a solution for you (the 13" MBP with a BTO SSD). Unfortunately this will cost a good deal more than the 11" MBA.

You can't always get what you want, but if you're willing to make some compromises you can usually get what you need.

Caliber26
Mar 25, 2011, 10:58 AM
most of the time I live without electricity so the backlit keyboard is a great feature to me in the winter/evenings.

I hope this is by choice?? If not, then an Apple notebook should be the last of your concerns right now. If this isn't the case, then you might want consider a previous-generation SSD MBA which does have a backlit keyboard.

leowyatt
Mar 25, 2011, 11:06 AM
Also if you like without electricity you'd want one less thing to drain the battery on the laptop.

leonw
Mar 25, 2011, 11:41 AM
I do have a windgenerator so i do have electricity sometimes. The thing is I rather use it on the mba then lighting up the 'whole house' and therefore the backlit keyboard is useful to me when sitting in the dark.
Better to use the mba 15 minutes less because of backlit battery drain than not seeing what I am doing.
But my question was why it was thrown out in the first place and what could be a reason for apple to put it back.

techwhiz
Mar 25, 2011, 12:02 PM
Simple, get a USB LED gooseneck light.

Problem solved.

iRun26.2
Mar 25, 2011, 12:29 PM
Simple, get a USB LED gooseneck light.

Problem solved.

That would be a major inconvenience for me. Who wants to carry anything extra around with the 11.6" MBA. The great level of portability was probably one of the reason the OP bought their 11.6" MBA in the first place.

The lack of a backlit keyboard is a major step backwards for the MBA in my opinion. What if they no longer included a speaker in it? Would your response then be to 'Just plug in a pair of headphones. Problem solved."?

AtmChm
Mar 25, 2011, 01:25 PM
I do have a windgenerator so i do have electricity sometimes. The thing is I rather use it on the mba then lighting up the 'whole house' and therefore the backlit keyboard is useful to me when sitting in the dark.
Better to use the mba 15 minutes less because of backlit battery drain than not seeing what I am doing.
But my question was why it was thrown out in the first place and what could be a reason for apple to put it back.

Only Apple knows for sure, but I suspect it was for battery life. Cutting the screen backlighting to 1/2 instead of full almost doubles your battery life. However, it seems to be the #1 complaint about the current MBA, so I suspect it will return in the next update.

If this is really a must for you and you want an MBA with a fast drive to get the performance of the new ones, you have at least two options.

1. Easiest: buy an MBA w/SSD that was made in the last 6 months before the new one came out in 2010. The very last ones made (about May to October 2010) had the fast SSD/flash drive, Apple just didn't announce they had changed the SSD. In the profiler it shows up as "TS128b". All the other Rev C SSDs are "SM128".

2. Harder, but cheaper: Buy an earlier MBA and get/install OWC's SSD replacement (I think these are for Rev B/C only).

leonw
Mar 25, 2011, 02:46 PM
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Thanks for some constructive answers.
If/when I'll buy the 11"mba, it will be the first mac I own. As long as I am in the process of deciding I'll go for the best.Even though I understand that I might have to compromise in the end. Good is often the ennemy of the best (as the gooseneck usb-light I have). And 'do I get what I want' or 'do I have to want what I get...'
I'll use the mba for light photo/video editing, wordprocessing, tv-tuner(with the elgato eye-tv), websurfing and the like. What I've read on these mba forums will this be no problem for the mba (cpu 1,4ghz, 4gb ram, 128gb).
What is important to me : weight, size, portability, screen res and last but not least BL keyboard ofcourse.
I once used an old 13"mba and I wasn't impressed. Probably HDD and not SSD. Didn't know that the last mbaRev had fast SSD. Can it be compared to the new 11"? Does it have a c2d cpu that can do the job (esp the eye-tv which needs an c2d)? Even though I prefer the 11", it might be the compromise in the end then ( if the BL keyboard doesn't come back in the next update).
And what about the trackpad on the mbaRev. Is it as good as on the new mba? I am not a big consumer and the price is not the most important but the mba not being inexpensive , I'd liked to get most possible luxury out of my money first using it...

ZipZap
Mar 25, 2011, 05:21 PM
Option #3, get over it - Buy a glow in the dark keyboard overylay.

While a lighted keyboard is cool, IMHO it is a nice to have feature, not a necessary feature.

ZipZap
Mar 25, 2011, 05:22 PM
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Thanks for some constructive answers.
If/when I'll buy the 11"mba, it will be the first mac I own. As long as I am in the process of deciding I'll go for the best.Even though I understand that I might have to compromise in the end. Good is often the ennemy of the best (as the gooseneck usb-light I have). And 'do I get what I want' or 'do I have to want what I get...'
I'll use the mba for light photo/video editing, wordprocessing, tv-tuner(with the elgato eye-tv), websurfing and the like. What I've read on these mba forums will this be no problem for the mba (cpu 1,4ghz, 4gb ram, 128gb).
What is important to me : weight, size, portability, screen res and last but not least BL keyboard ofcourse.
I once used an old 13"mba and I wasn't impressed. Probably HDD and not SSD. Didn't know that the last mbaRev had fast SSD. Can it be compared to the new 11"? Does it have a c2d cpu that can do the job (esp the eye-tv which needs an c2d)? Even though I prefer the 11", it might be the compromise in the end then ( if the BL keyboard doesn't come back in the next update).
And what about the trackpad on the mbaRev. Is it as good as on the new mba? I am not a big consumer and the price is not the most important but the mba not being inexpensive , I'd liked to get most possible luxury out of my money first using it...

Help me understand...why is a BL keyboard so important?

AtmChm
Mar 25, 2011, 09:47 PM
Didn't know that the last mbaRev had fast SSD. Can it be compared to the new 11"?

Yes, it is nearly comparable from the benchmarks I have seen to the "flash drives" in both the 11" and 13" MBA. In my opinion, it is probably the exact same flash drive they are using in the current version.


Does it have a c2d cpu that can do the job (esp the eye-tv which needs an c2d)? Even though I prefer the 11", it might be the compromise in the end then ( if the BL keyboard doesn't come back in the next update).

Yes, the Rev C MBA only came in two configurations: a 1.8 GHz C2D with an HDD, and a 2.13 GHz C2D with an SSD.


And what about the trackpad on the mbaRev. Is it as good as on the new mba? I am not a big consumer and the price is not the most important but the mba not being inexpensive , I'd liked to get most possible luxury out of my money first using it...

I think so. I have the late Rev C that I am talking about, and the new "magic trackpad" that I use with my iMac. I really don't notice any difference. The one specific difference is that the Rev C MBA trackpad has the long bar button on the bottom for clicking, while the new MBA (and the MBP) has no button - you have to push down on the bottom of the trackpad itself for a "click".

One word of caution with the elgato eyetv. The "Hybrid" version pushes all the processing onto the computer's cpu, so it can be pretty cpu intensive. If you use this, you may find the MBA gets pretty hot. I believe it is the eyetv 250 that has the processor in the device, thus not taxing the computer's cpu. In either case, I think you want the fast "flash/SSD" drive version since the files the eyetv create are quite large, so there is a lot of disk activity while you are recording.

Cheffy Dave
Mar 25, 2011, 10:21 PM
Also if you like without electricity you'd want one less thing to drain the battery on the laptop.

I know, but, you can turn it off, so you'd have the option, I think it's gone for good, as a cost cutting move,and as a battery drain:cool:

Cheffy Dave
Mar 25, 2011, 10:25 PM
Easiest: buy an MBA w/SSD that was made in the last 6 months before the new one came out in 2010. The very last ones made (about May to October 2010) had the fast SSD/flash drive, Apple just didn't announce they had changed the SSD. In the profiler it shows up as "TS128b". All the other Rev C SSDs are "SM128".

Wow ATMCHM, I never knew that, see,you're never to old to learn:eek:

Mr. Savage
Mar 25, 2011, 10:38 PM
Help me understand...why is a BL keyboard so important?

Because some people — myself being one of them — just plain suck out loud at typing. In the dark? Forget about it.

People will inevitably chime in with the "learn to type" argument but the thing is, for me anyway, when I'm engaged in a writing project I spend 90% of my time thinking about what I'm going to write and the other 10% percent actually writing, so I have no pressing need to bang out 800 words per minute. ;)

Back to OP. My guess (hope) is the BL keys will be back and that the design/engineering work was/is done during development of the "rev D" Airs and can be relatively easily implemented as a rolling change at the manufacturing level for a future update. The BL keys (and a few other small features) were probably left out in order to hit a desired cost and retail price-point so the new MBA wouldn't suffer the same fate as the original MBA: poor sales due to high price.

In other words: the BL Keyboard was a planned omission for "rev D" and not something they'll need to go back to the drawing board on.

leonw
Mar 26, 2011, 04:52 AM
Option #3, get over it - Buy a glow in the dark keyboard overylay.

While a lighted keyboard is cool, IMHO it is a nice to have feature, not a necessary feature.

Never heard of this before. Checked their website and it looks too good to be true (so it ain't true than???). Good is simple.
My first choice would be the 11" so if this is as good as it seems than this could be the compromise I can live with. I'll definitely give it a chance.

leonw
Mar 26, 2011, 05:13 AM
Yes, it is nearly comparable from the benchmarks I have seen to the "flash drives" in both the 11" and 13" MBA. In my opinion, it is probably the exact same flash drive they are using in the current version.



Yes, the Rev C MBA only came in two configurations: a 1.8 GHz C2D with an HDD, and a 2.13 GHz C2D with an SSD.



I think so. I have the late Rev C that I am talking about, and the new "magic trackpad" that I use with my iMac. I really don't notice any difference. The one specific difference is that the Rev C MBA trackpad has the long bar button on the bottom for clicking, while the new MBA (and the MBP) has no button - you have to push down on the bottom of the trackpad itself for a "click".

One word of caution with the elgato eyetv. The "Hybrid" version pushes all the processing onto the computer's cpu, so it can be pretty cpu intensive. If you use this, you may find the MBA gets pretty hot. I believe it is the eyetv 250 that has the processor in the device, thus not taxing the computer's cpu. In either case, I think you want the fast "flash/SSD" drive version since the files the eyetv create are quite large, so there is a lot of disk activity while you are recording.

I'm using the Elgato DTT right now on the borrowed 13"mbp (2,13ghz,HDD, 2009). It works great but the mbp gets really hot and it drains the battery (even not recording) but that's what I expected. As long as the mbaRev C or the 11" can do the job, it's ok for me. Maybe the SSD will be an improvement?

Good you mentioned the long bar button on the Rev. I'd forgotten about that and it was one of the minor things I didn't like.
Even the mbp I'm using now is a pleasure compared to the pc's I've been using til now so whether it will be the Rev C or the 11"mba I'll end up with, I will be pleased anyway. It's just sorting out my priorities.
Thanks for some good advice. Never too old to learn me neither...

fyrefly
Mar 26, 2011, 05:38 PM
One thing I'd want to be sure about the RevC MBA is that the Elgato Device would fit the USB port. I feel like with the Elgato's thickness, it may not fit the port (the flip-down door would get in the way, IMHO).

Beanoir
Mar 27, 2011, 04:53 PM
Oh I love this debate i really do.

No backlit keyboard, as somebody quite intelligently posted above....you can't have it all.

fyrefly
Mar 27, 2011, 09:54 PM
If you want an Apple laptop with a backlit keyboard and an SSD Apple does have a solution for you (the 13" MBP with a BTO SSD). Unfortunately this will cost a good deal more than the 11" MBA.

You can't always get what you want, but if you're willing to make some compromises you can usually get what you need.

Yeah, but you can't really compare the 11" MBA with the 13" MBP.

The 13" MBP 2.3Ghz i5 processor with 128GB SSD costs $1449 USD. Almost the same price as the 13" MBA with 4GB of RAM ($1399 USD). Those two machines would compare better - the MBA has a better resolution/more portability, and the MBP will stomp the MBA in all benchmarks 'cept for Windows 7/OSX Gaming.

No backlit keyboard, as somebody quite intelligently posted above....you can't have it all.

... well except that we DID have it all. For 3 years MBA owners had 3 lbs, 13" screen, AND backlit keyboard. In 2010 Apple (I'm assuming to hit that $999 price-point) took the BL keyboard away.

And I'm with everyone else that thinks/hopes the BL Keyboard'll be back in the next rev of the MBA.

Beanoir
Mar 28, 2011, 03:37 PM
... well except that we DID have it all. For 3 years MBA owners had 3 lbs, 13" screen, AND backlit keyboard. In 2010 Apple (I'm assuming to hit that $999 price-point) took the BL keyboard away.

And I'm with everyone else that thinks/hopes the BL Keyboard'll be back in the next rev of the MBA.

.....yawn

WesCole
Mar 29, 2011, 01:16 PM
I hope they bring back the backlit keyboard; I will be all over these. Unfortunately, I start summer school at my university on June 1. The Samsung Series 9 laptops are really looking good to me, too. Guess I will have to wait and see if I can hold out a little bit and hope Apple releases an Air update in June.

uwetodd
Mar 29, 2011, 01:41 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I can still see what the keys are when the screen is lit up.

:confused:

vader_slri
Mar 29, 2011, 03:11 PM
If the backlit keyboard is thicker than the current MBA keyboard, then I'm pretty sure backlit won't be in the refresh. I just don't see Apple changing the MBA chassis at all in order to accommodate a backlit keyboard. They will just soldier on with the current chassis. However, if the backlit keyboard is the same thickness as the un-backlit one, then yes, there is a chance backlit will return in the refresh.

leonw
Mar 29, 2011, 04:11 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but I can still see what the keys are when the screen is lit up.

:confused:

Well, that's just you ;-(
I can see the keys but not what's on them.
One of the reasons I started using Mac was the 'userfriendly' policy. Taking out the BL keys is the opposite.
I wondered whether it was because of the battery drain but as someone mentioned: you can turn the BL off. In fact: now I use more battery because I have to use 100% BL screen to see what's on the keys. So it's counterproductive (and I don't even see properly what's on the keys).
I can't imagine it was because of the weight (20 grams maybe???).
Maybe it was because of lack of space??? What do I know.
Or the $$$ as someone said. To get it at 999$ (which isn't that cheap, considering it has no BL keys...)
Whatever apple saved, it didn't outweigh
the loss imo.

Their are solutions: gooseneck usb-light, 13"( not 11") mba Rev C ,'glow in the dark' keystickers, learn to touchtype, I even took a photo of the keyboard and use it as my
desktop background (swipe four fingers up on the trackpad and there it is...).
All good solutions but ennemy of the one and only best solution:
the cool, userfriendly BACKLIT KEYBOARD!!!

fyrefly
Mar 29, 2011, 04:37 PM
.....yawn

Thank-you for your extremely interesting contribution to this discussion. :)

But seriously, I think it was a cost-savings, thing. If Apple goes with the Sandy Bridge processors for the next update of the MBA, then they save money by not having to put a 320M chip in there, and hopefully they can put the Backlit Keyboard back in and keep up their margins. ;) ('Cause we all know that's what matters in the end - Apple's 30% Profit margins).

leonw
Mar 29, 2011, 04:45 PM
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If the backlit keyboard is thicker than the current MBA keyboard, then I'm pretty sure backlit won't be in the refresh. I just don't see Apple changing the MBA chassis at all in order to accommodate a backlit keyboard. They will just soldier on with the current chassis. However, if the backlit keyboard is the same thickness as the un-backlit one, then yes, there is a chance backlit will return in the refresh.

Something like this is what I meant with 'lack of space'. Totally agree that we can forget the BL keyboard in the refresh if it's thicker than the one without. Bad news.
Maybe the ifixitsite shows the answer...

tonydt1g3r
Mar 29, 2011, 04:49 PM
you think the glow in the dark keyboard stickers would suffice?

iRun26.2
Mar 29, 2011, 04:56 PM
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Something like this is what I meant with 'lack of space'. Totally agree that we can forget the BL keyboard in the refresh if it's thicker than the one without. Bad news.
Maybe the ifixitsite shows the answer...

But the CAPS LOCK key has a light under it... There is plenty of space!

vader_slri
Mar 29, 2011, 07:30 PM
But the CAPS LOCK key has a light under it... There is plenty of space!

I didn't know that. That's good news - there's hope yet!

uwetodd
Mar 29, 2011, 10:17 PM
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Well, that's just you ;-(
I can see the keys but not what's on them.
One of the reasons I started using Mac was the 'userfriendly' policy. Taking out the BL keys is the opposite.
I wondered whether it was because of the battery drain but as someone mentioned: you can turn the BL off. In fact: now I use more battery because I have to use 100% BL screen to see what's on the keys. So it's counterproductive (and I don't even see properly what's on the keys).
I can't imagine it was because of the weight (20 grams maybe???).
Maybe it was because of lack of space??? What do I know.
Or the $$$ as someone said. To get it at 999$ (which isn't that cheap, considering it has no BL keys...)
Whatever apple saved, it didn't outweigh
the loss imo.

Their are solutions: gooseneck usb-light, 13"( not 11") mba Rev C ,'glow in the dark' keystickers, learn to touchtype, I even took a photo of the keyboard and use it as my
desktop background (swipe four fingers up on the trackpad and there it is...).
All good solutions but ennemy of the one and only best solution:
the cool, userfriendly BACKLIT KEYBOARD!!!

I guess my eyes are just that sharp. Lucky me!

I think your last sentence pretty much sums up your problem. You're expecting a "cool" feature to exist where it probably has been phased out. Bummer.

EDIT: Write Stevie an email (during the day) and post his reply.

leonw
Mar 30, 2011, 02:27 AM
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you think the glow in the dark keyboard stickers would suffice?

I don't know. As I wrote before: it seems too good to be true (so it ain't true then???).
Maybe someone who uses them could share their experience....

Drezin
Mar 30, 2011, 05:08 AM
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Well, that's just you ;-(
I can see the keys but not what's on them.
One of the reasons I started using Mac was the 'userfriendly' policy. Taking out the BL keys is the opposite.
I wondered whether it was because of the battery drain but as someone mentioned: you can turn the BL off. In fact: now I use more battery because I have to use 100% BL screen to see what's on the keys. So it's counterproductive (and I don't even see properly what's on the keys).
I can't imagine it was because of the weight (20 grams maybe???).
Maybe it was because of lack of space??? What do I know.
Or the $$$ as someone said. To get it at 999$ (which isn't that cheap, considering it has no BL keys...)
Whatever apple saved, it didn't outweigh
the loss imo.

Their are solutions: gooseneck usb-light, 13"( not 11") mba Rev C ,'glow in the dark' keystickers, learn to touchtype, I even took a photo of the keyboard and use it as my
desktop background (swipe four fingers up on the trackpad and there it is...).
All good solutions but ennemy of the one and only best solution:
the cool, userfriendly BACKLIT KEYBOARD!!!
I can see the keys and whats on them in a completely dark room even with brightness set to minimum O_O

leonw
Mar 30, 2011, 05:22 AM
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Well, that's just you ;-(
I can see the keys but not what's on them.
One of the reasons I started using Mac was the 'userfriendly' policy. Taking out the BL keys is the opposite.
I wondered whether it was because of the battery drain but as someone mentioned: you can turn the BL off. In fact: now I use more battery because I have to use 100% BL screen to see what's on the keys. So it's counterproductive (and I don't even see properly what's on the keys).
I can't imagine it was because of the weight (20 grams maybe???).
Maybe it was because of lack of space??? What do I know.
Or the $$$ as someone said. To get it at 999$ (which isn't that cheap, considering it has no BL keys...)
Whatever apple saved, it didn't outweigh
the loss imo.

Their are solutions: gooseneck usb-light, 13"( not 11") mba Rev C ,'glow in the dark' keystickers, learn to touchtype, I even took a photo of the keyboard and use it as my
desktop background (swipe four fingers up on the trackpad and there it is...).
All good solutions but ennemy of the one and only best solution:
the cool, userfriendly BACKLIT KEYBOARD!!!
I can see the keys and whats on them in a completely dark room even with brightness set to minimum O_O

With your infra red glasses/binoculars????

uwetodd
Mar 30, 2011, 09:41 AM
I can see the keys and whats on them in a completely dark room even with brightness set to minimum O_O

Phew. Good to know I'm not "the only one". :cool: The OP is clearly stuck on wanting a "cool" feature and will continue to adamantly disregard facts.

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With your infra red glasses/binoculars????

OP, infra red glasses probably won't work in this situation. But you'd probably look really cool!

iRun26.2
Mar 30, 2011, 11:25 AM
I can see the keys and whats on them in a completely dark room even with brightness set to minimum O_O

I certainly can not!

iRun26.2
Mar 30, 2011, 11:40 AM
Phew. Good to know I'm not "the only one". :cool: The OP is clearly stuck on wanting a "cool" feature and will continue to adamantly disregard facts.

That is nonsense! The backlit keyboard was a very useful feature. It wasn't just 'cool'. Every time I have to use my computer in complete darkness with minimal brighness I am angered that Apple removed it. I can not make out all of the keys and I am forced to reposition my fingers over the keys with the bumps every time after I use the touchpad. It makes the MBA less of a flagship product, in my mind.

I'm sure it will come back. I will buy the next MBA upgrade that has it.

(And, if you go back and read other similar threads, you will see that I am not alone.)

MultiFinder17
Mar 30, 2011, 11:59 AM
99% of the time, I have no need of the backlit keyboard. However, that other 1% (usually when it's around 3AM, I'm programming in bed and forgetting where the rarely-used modifier keys are), it is immensely handy. I'm a touch typist, so I don't normally look at the keyboard. However, especially for the uncommon characters, I do look down, and it is really quite nice to have them softly glowing beneath my fingers.

If you really really want the backlit keyboard, then get a revision B or C (it seems like their price falls every day) and install an OWC SSD in it. I was tempted by one of the new ones, but didn't want to give up a few features of my revision C (backlit keyboard and IR Sensor being prime), so I put one of those SSDs in it. Holy. Crap. Going from that wee 1.8" 4200RPM drive to this is like night and day. Everything flies on this machine now - I benched it against one of the new ones, and it actually scored a bit higher :D

uwetodd
Mar 30, 2011, 12:47 PM
That is nonsense! The backlit keyboard was a very useful feature. It wasn't just 'cool'. Every time I have to use my computer in complete darkness with minimal brighness I am angered that Apple removed it. I can not make out all of the keys and I am forced to reposition my fingers over the keys with the bumps every time after I use the touchpad. It makes the MBA less of a flagship product, in my mind.

If my life is ever negatively impacted by something so trivial, such as a missing backlit keyboard, you have permission to shoot me.

ballgeoff
Mar 30, 2011, 01:20 PM
Turn up the brightness of your screen, problem solved :)

tonydt1g3r
Mar 30, 2011, 05:08 PM
how about a keyboard skin that glows in the dark?

http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/fx_features.html#continue

JasonR
Mar 30, 2011, 11:23 PM
I kind of miss the backlit keyboard coming from a Macbook Pro...and I'm typing this in the dark right now. Is it a deal killer, no? However, I'm a good at typing and don't really need to see the keyboard to type. Hunters and peckers...I feel for ya.

I'll be pissed if Apple brings it back since I already bought this model! haha :D

Uliman
Mar 31, 2011, 11:54 AM
And I'm with everyone else that thinks/hopes the BL Keyboard'll be back in the next rev of the MBA.[/QUOTE originally by Fyrefly]


I registered my request for a backlit keyboard with Apple. If it is not brought back, then I would consider buying an excellent used RevC but the problem with that is it only came with 2GB RAM and is not upgradeable.

If the new MBA comes with the backlit keyboard then it probably also will have the HD3000. What a conundrum!

Overall though, I would settle for the SB/HD3000 combo with backlit keyboard since I really do not game much.

Here's hoping regardless of when the new MBAs come out! I currently have a mid-2010 MBP but I am in lust with the 13" MBA and will trade in a heartbeat.

entatlrg
Mar 31, 2011, 11:58 AM
#1 No backlit keyboard, a) learn to type or b) buy a MBP. Option 'a' is easiest.

#2 Why no backlit keyboard? Ask Apple, you won't find an answer here, just guesses. Why doesn't really matter anyway, does it?

leonw
Apr 2, 2011, 05:00 PM
how about a keyboard skin that glows in the dark?

http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/fx_features.html#continue

Have you or anyone else tried this? No 'glow in the dark' for the 11", only for the 13".