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dudeofswim
Apr 16, 2011, 05:50 PM
http://www.9to5mac.com/61717/apple-switches-from-toshiba-to-speedier-samsung-ssds-for-new-macbook-air-shipments/

I know this has been posted, but what do you think?

I have the older model, will it really make a difference?



W1MRK
Apr 16, 2011, 05:53 PM
Thanks, did not see this article. Interesting.

MrXiro
Apr 16, 2011, 06:54 PM
Cool!

Jordanbrown83
Apr 16, 2011, 08:18 PM
Does this mean don't buy a refurb if you want the faster drive?

vincenz
Apr 16, 2011, 08:18 PM
Does this mean don't buy a refurb if you want the faster drive?

Seems that way.

KPOM
Apr 16, 2011, 08:42 PM
Does this mean don't buy a refurb if you want the faster drive?

Likely since the faster drives seem to have entered the production line about 2 months ago. That said, eventually the newer models will work their way into the system as refurbs.

Having said that, don't let the possibility of getting the Toshiba drive deter you from getting a MacBook Air. The Toshiba is still a very good SSD, and it holds up well to severe use.

dudeofswim
Apr 16, 2011, 09:05 PM
Likely since the faster drives seem to have entered the production line about 2 months ago. That said, eventually the newer models will work their way into the system as refurbs.

Having said that, don't let the possibility of getting the Toshiba drive deter you from getting a MacBook Air. The Toshiba is still a very good SSD, and it holds up well to severe use.

Well, for those stuck with the older SSD, what can they do?

If you buy from a reseller you are most likely going to get an older model.

neteng101
Apr 16, 2011, 09:21 PM
Still very happy with the original Toshiba SSD on the 2010s here... its a known quantity and has that excellent garbage collection for now to compensate for the current lack of TRIM support. Waiting for Lion and full TRIM support.

I wouldn't suggest letting the SSD be a deciding factor, aside from benchmarks, most people will never likely be able to tell the difference.

MotionxxUSxx
Apr 16, 2011, 10:00 PM
11 inch refurb I got today has the toshiba drive.

Christopher387A
Apr 16, 2011, 10:37 PM
13" MBA I purchased last week has the Toshiba. :apple:

macingman
Apr 16, 2011, 10:41 PM
Waiting for more reviews to come in but I may be selling my current 11inch for a 11inch with the faster SSD. I am a heavy gamer (which plays games on my MBA when travelling) so need all the speed I can get.

I actually feel a bit duped by Apple has they have superseeded my technology so soon after selling it to me and they didn't even announce it or anything.:mad:

neteng101
Apr 16, 2011, 10:54 PM
Waiting for more reviews to come in but I may be selling my current 11inch for a 11inch with the faster SSD. I am a heavy gamer (which plays games on my MBA when travelling) so need all the speed I can get.

No offense meant - but that totally blows my mind. The MBA is any way shape or form today is NOT a heavy gaming platform, and a faster SSD won't do you much good... its the CPU/GPU combination being nowhere near capable enough.

DarwinOSX
Apr 16, 2011, 11:09 PM
You won't notice a speed difference.

You are worried about gaming on an 11" and think the SSD speed will matter? It won't.

Waiting for more reviews to come in but I may be selling my current 11inch for a 11inch with the faster SSD. I am a heavy gamer (which plays games on my MBA when travelling) so need all the speed I can get.

I actually feel a bit duped by Apple has they have superseeded my technology so soon after selling it to me and they didn't even announce it or anything.:mad:

iRobertM
Apr 16, 2011, 11:15 PM
Just bought the ultimate 13" 3 days ago and just today finished loading everything. Read this article, go and check only to see Toshiba. While the extra speed wont make or break anything, it is still very frustrating. I can see down the road when I try and sell this laptop getting the question, "Is the SSD Samsung?". Can't help but feel like the value of my brand new laptop just went down other then the typical used. While I could take it back and get a new one it's not really worth it to reload everything.

Can't really blame Apple for this though, they are just switching vendors and getting an additional speed boost as a bonus. Just sucks not to have the latest and greatest when you just bought something from their retail store! :)

TheMacBookPro
Apr 17, 2011, 02:18 AM
BTO 1.6/4/128 11" Air I bought last week (and listed as 0 weeks old in CoconutBattery) has the Apple SSD TS128C drive.

Shame (but still way faster than the HDD on my iMac lol).

rookiezzz
Apr 17, 2011, 04:10 AM
so, can we just go to the apple store and asked them to change it? lol :D

because for us who purchased this things like 1month ago and get the old one seems frustrating though we won't really feel the difference..

mag01
Apr 17, 2011, 04:16 AM
I've got one 13" Ultimate bought about 2 weeks ago and this one has that Samsung SSD inside, but I don't have any feeling of ultimately blazing speeds though - random writing patterns seem to be a sort of struggle. But I haven't run any benchmarking tests, just a subjective feeling.

Scottsdale
Apr 17, 2011, 06:39 AM
There is a thread in this forum where we discussed this change over two months ago. It often surprises me when I read front-page news from elsewhere that I learned here first. In this case at least two months ago.

mag01
Apr 17, 2011, 07:06 AM
Right, there's another thread about it http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1091789

OSMac
Apr 17, 2011, 07:08 AM
It's not an issue?

Next air will have larger SSDs, a CPU that's current instead of 3 years old, and probably a lighted keyboard.

Those will make the 2010 Air drop in value not what SSD version it has.

Hellhammer
Apr 17, 2011, 07:59 AM
There is a thread in this forum where we discussed this change over two months ago. It often surprises me when I read front-page news from elsewhere that I learned here first. In this case at least two months ago.

The reason why this particular case took so long was due to Anand's busyness. At first, I was going to start in January but Anand was way too busy (CES and all that) so it was pushed back again and again. Finally Anand got back to me late last month and about a week ago I signed the contract.

If we had signed it earlier, I would have covered this right when it was discovered. Actually, I even tipped MR and couple of other Apple sites about this back then but none of them published anything (not a complete article, just linked to that thread and said it might be worth covering).

IngerMan
Apr 17, 2011, 08:48 AM
Hellhammer,

I have a question. Is it possible that us with the slower TS SSD could see a update from Apple or Toshiba that could increase the read write speeds like the Samsung?

Scottsdale
Apr 17, 2011, 08:49 AM
It's not an issue?

Next air will have larger SSDs, a CPU that's current instead of 3 years old, and probably a lighted keyboard.

Those will make the 2010 Air drop in value not what SSD version it has.

And a GPU that struggles to compare with the Nvidia 9400m released three years ago..

I have said this before, and I hate to say it again, but if Intel wasn't an entity hellbent on acting illegally and anti-competitively Apple could have went with "current" Core i7 CPUs last year. Intel requires Apple to now use its chipset thus forcing its IGP to use the new CPUs even though it had a legally binding agreement with Nvidia to permit competition. Intel couldn't compete fairly so it decided to screw Nvidia, PC manufacturers like Apple, and most importantly consumers. They are a disgusting company, and I would prefer Apple do business with AMD for its low end Macs rather than permit Intel's actions by doing business with them.

So why don't you look at the facts about the market and factors before calling the tech dated. Apple currently has the best all around ultraportable in the MBA because the C2D is paired with the Nvidia 320m which is what competition is all about. Consumers lose big and most aren't even smart enough to know it because they use Intel's marketing as factual or believe biased Intel funded websites as though they're independent reported.

jamesryanbell
Apr 17, 2011, 09:58 AM
It's not an issue?

Next air will have larger SSDs, a CPU that's current instead of 3 years old, and probably a lighted keyboard.

Those will make the 2010 Air drop in value not what SSD version it has.

None of this matters - at all - due to the fact that the graphics card is MASSIVELY inferior.

No Ivy Bridge, no care.

TheMacBookPro
Apr 17, 2011, 11:09 AM
None of this matters - at all - due to the fact that the graphics card is MASSIVELY inferior.

No Ivy Bridge, no care.

It doesn't matter whether or not the new graphics chip will be inferior or not- consumers just see the 'NEW' tag and assume it is better and pay more.

I don't see the previous gen 13 Pros with the 320M selling for more than the current 13 Pros with the HD3000 ;)

Moccasin
Apr 17, 2011, 11:51 AM
Bought an 11" Ultimate a week or so ago and it has the SM128C.

Currently thinking of going for a 13" refurb (see my other thread) so this adds a complication to my decision, though presume that the faster processor makes up for any change in HDD speed

Out of interest, how do the 128GB and 256GB drives compare in speed?

theSeb
Apr 17, 2011, 12:56 PM
Just bought the ultimate 13" 3 days ago and just today finished loading everything. Read this article, go and check only to see Toshiba. While the extra speed wont make or break anything, it is still very frustrating. I can see down the road when I try and sell this laptop getting the question, "Is the SSD Samsung?". Can't help but feel like the value of my brand new laptop just went down other then the typical used. While I could take it back and get a new one it's not really worth it to reload everything.

Can't really blame Apple for this though, they are just switching vendors and getting an additional speed boost as a bonus. Just sucks not to have the latest and greatest when you just bought something from their retail store! :)

It won't make a difference mate. Less than 1% of Apple users read forums like this and will know anything about it. Most people won't care about it either. The only place where it may be important is in high school where I can picture conversations like this:
"Dude, you got the MBA with the slower ssd? That's like so yesterday totally
."

Or however kids talk these days. The differences won't make any significant or noticeable difference in typical, everyday use. Apple does not chase specs for a reason. I can tell you that in typical usage most people won't tell the difference between a very fast SSD and an average SSD. The differences are too small to be perceptible by an average user.

macsrcool1234
Apr 17, 2011, 01:37 PM
Well, for those stuck with the older SSD, what can they do?

If you buy from a reseller you are most likely going to get an older model.


+1. I bought from MacMall 2 days ago and got the old model.

No offense meant - but that totally blows my mind. The MBA is any way shape or form today is NOT a heavy gaming platform, and a faster SSD won't do you much good... its the CPU/GPU combination being nowhere near capable enough.


+10000. You aren't going to see any improvement in FPS.

ReallyBigFeet
Apr 17, 2011, 05:59 PM
I just bought a second MBA 13" two weeks ago from my CDW rep. This one has the Samsung SSD in it. Can't tell any difference in speed.

Voondebah
Apr 17, 2011, 06:40 PM
I got lucky, I ordered a refurb 13" air a couple weeks ago and it came with the samsung SSD and also only had 1 or 2 battery cycles!

aneftp
Apr 17, 2011, 06:48 PM
Got BTO MBA 13.3 4GB 128GB right on Jan 1st 2011. It came directly from China to my home on Jan 5th 2011.

Got the Samsung SM128C drive.

macingman
Apr 17, 2011, 10:48 PM
No offense meant - but that totally blows my mind. The MBA is any way shape or form today is NOT a heavy gaming platform, and a faster SSD won't do you much good... its the CPU/GPU combination being nowhere near capable enough.

I didn't say heavy gaming, but say I was going interstate for the weekend instead of bringing my whole gaming kit. I'll bring my MBA just to play a bit of COD on the lowest graphics quality for an hour or two. I find the MBA perfect for that.

ZipZap
Apr 18, 2011, 09:04 AM
Bought locally in March. I have the samsung.

stylinexpat
Apr 18, 2011, 01:10 PM
I wonder if the 128's are Samsung and the 256's are Toshiba :confused:

bcaslis
Apr 18, 2011, 01:15 PM
I wonder if the 128's are Samsung and the 256's are Toshiba :confused:

No, I have a 256GB Samsung.

Christopher387A
Apr 18, 2011, 06:49 PM
I wonder if the 128's are Samsung and the 256's are Toshiba :confused:

I have a 128 Toshiba.

IngerMan
Apr 18, 2011, 06:58 PM
I have the TS128 as well. My question is why does console show a different result then what the test post on AJA. I did a thread on this but :confused: no answers. So to the experts, what up with that?