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dbater
Feb 26, 2007, 06:00 PM
No sť sobre esa primera parte. No soy un ventilador grande de porsches sin embargo, eso soy un coche que mira agradable bonito. ŅCuŠntas millas usted tiene en ťl?

OOOOOOkay, whatever! :o

b0tt094
Feb 26, 2007, 06:04 PM
OOOOOOkay, whatever! :o

ehm, allow me

I do not know on that first part. I am not a great ventilator of porsches nevertheless, that I am a car that watches pleasant pretty. How many miles you have in him?

thats what he said, (thank god for that translation widget :cool:)

AppleIntelRock
Feb 26, 2007, 06:08 PM
ehm, allow me

I do not know on that first part. I am not a great ventilator of porsches nevertheless, that I am a car that watches pleasant pretty. How many miles you have in him?

thats what he said, (thank god for that translation widget :cool:)

ahahaha. that widget proves to be even more worthless :p

dbater
Feb 26, 2007, 06:10 PM
ehm, allow me

I do not know on that first part. I am not a great ventilator of porsches nevertheless, that I am a car that watches pleasant pretty. How many miles you have in him?

thats what he said, (thank god for that translation widget :cool:)


9000 miles

checkflag
Mar 5, 2007, 03:07 AM
this is my baby. 1999 bmw M3. Alpine white over tan interior. rare color combo. She is a blast to drive.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a101/kskphoto/CIMG0267-1.jpg


But she is in the shop due to a stupid accident I was in on the freeway, Behold !

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a101/kskphoto/CIMG1217.jpg

Sweetfeld28
Mar 5, 2007, 09:48 AM
Ouch, that sucks.

Envykev
Mar 5, 2007, 11:42 AM
Ah man that sucks, and the 98-99 are some of the best M3 years too.

robegian
Mar 5, 2007, 12:04 PM
My CitroŽn C4 :-)

http://homepage.mac.com/robegian/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-09-16%2004.14.33%20-0700/Image-A9B13E6826A111DA.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/robegian/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-09-16%2004.14.33%20-0700/Image-A9A5A69826A111DA.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/robegian/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-09-16%2004.14.33%20-0700/Image-A9B014F226A111DA.jpg

wizwaz3
Mar 5, 2007, 12:09 PM
My Citroën C4 :-)

European cars are so cool! :p

Also like the Apple sticker. Wear it proud, my friend, wear it proud!

zflauaus
Mar 5, 2007, 01:18 PM
My CitroŽn C4 :-)
I want an American manufacturer to come up with something even remotely close to that. That is slick!

mfacey
Mar 5, 2007, 01:22 PM
My Citroën C4 :-)

The C4 is a good looking car for sure. I especially like the Coupe version (if you can get over the absurdly large doors :rolleyes: ). The only problem I have with Citroens is the lacking finish of the interior. Styling is great, but it gets a little too french on the inside!:eek:

exorciser
Mar 5, 2007, 02:22 PM
And we european are so in love with american cars; mustang, hummer ...

ErikCLDR
Mar 5, 2007, 02:28 PM
And we european are so in love with american cars; mustang, hummer ...

Eh mustangs. Yuk.

Your not missing out on those. Hehe

robegian
Mar 5, 2007, 02:30 PM
And we european are so in love with american cars; mustang, hummer ...
Er... Hummer? Are you sure we Europeans are in love with that? :-P

cheekyspanky
Mar 5, 2007, 02:32 PM
And we european are so in love with american cars; mustang, hummer ...

I like the look of the Mustang, but I felt the wing mirrors of one..yeah that sounds a bit weird, I studied product design, it's allowed! It felt like Ford used the cheapest plastic known to man on one of the parts of the car you see all the time..that put me off from that point onwards!

Worst reason not to buy a car..maybe!

4np
Mar 5, 2007, 02:35 PM
I don't have a car; does this count as well? ;)

robegian
Mar 5, 2007, 02:44 PM
The only problem I have with Citroens is the lacking finish of the interior. Styling is great, but it gets a little too french on the inside!:eek:
Luckily the C4's interior is not lacking quality. It's not a Rolls, but qualitatively it's on par with the other cars of the same league ("C" segment, in Europe).

Here's some pictures anyway (from the net - I never took photos of my car's interiors):

http://www.motorbox.com/static/upl/c/citroenc4-6113-031-f.jpg

http://www.motorbox.com/static/upl/c/citroenc4-6113-032-f.jpg

wizwaz3
Mar 5, 2007, 05:31 PM
Eh mustangs. Yuk.

Your not missing out on those. Hehe

I'll say... There're way too many driving around here. And the Hummers were cool before everybody had one...


The interior of that C4 kinda reminds me of the Toyota Echo with the dash on the center... And what's with all American cars having analog dash clusters? Why not digital? :confused:

rickvanr
Mar 5, 2007, 05:46 PM
I don't have a car; does this count as well? ;)

Heck ya it does. Know that I'm quite envious..

skunk
Mar 5, 2007, 06:07 PM
It's not a RollsNor is a Rolls, these days.

SRSound
Mar 5, 2007, 06:19 PM
a newish picture i wanted to post

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n141/srsound/PanoramicMiniN.jpg

nothing quite like driving around in a street-legal go-kart

ErikCLDR
Mar 5, 2007, 06:22 PM
I like the look of the Mustang, but I felt the wing mirrors of one..yeah that sounds a bit weird, I studied product design, it's allowed! It felt like Ford used the cheapest plastic known to man on one of the parts of the car you see all the time..that put me off from that point onwards!

Worst reason not to buy a car..maybe!

what do you expect? its american.

My dad has had them as rental cars. He says they don't drive well, they're not comfortable, and he would rather drive a taurus.

SpookTheHamster
Mar 6, 2007, 03:50 AM
http://www.motorbox.com/static/upl/c/citroenc4-6113-032-f.jpg

The best bit about the C4 (imo) is that the steering wheel hub stays stationary while the wheel turns. Messes with your mind.

macquariumguy
Mar 6, 2007, 05:54 AM
And what's with all American cars having analog dash clusters? Why not digital? :confused:
It's just my opinion, but digital gauges suck. I'll take a nice big round analog speedo and tach any day.

SBik2
Mar 6, 2007, 09:06 AM
It's just my opinion, but digital gauges suck. I'll take a nice big round analog speedo and tach any day.

I think they do also but the new mercedes S class (my grandma is gettting one so she made it my job to compare it against other cars so I know) that the gauges appear to be analog (which they are) but they are also an animation because that part is also on an lcd due to the option of"night view assist') i like the analog gaugues; its less confusing and it looks better to me. I just hate analog clocks in cars though
Heres a pic of that part)click for bigger
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/SBik2/th_sedan_int_3_main.jpg (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/SBik2/sedan_int_3_main.jpg)

wizwaz3
Mar 6, 2007, 05:35 PM
It's just my opinion, but digital gauges suck. I'll take a nice big round analog speedo and tach any day.

They do suck...

I think they do also but the new mercedes S class (my grandma is gettting one so she made it my job to compare it against other cars so I know) that the gauges appear to be analog (which they are) but they are also an animation because that part is also on an lcd due to the option of"night view assist') i like the analog gaugues; its less confusing and it looks better to me. I just hate analog clocks in cars though
Heres a pic of that part)click for bigger
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/SBik2/th_sedan_int_3_main.jpg (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/SBik2/sedan_int_3_main.jpg)

...but I meant something more like the Benz. Digital, maybe with the ability to choose/customize your cluster.

quagmire
Mar 6, 2007, 10:42 PM
I want an American manufacturer to come up with something even remotely close to that. That is slick!

The Saturn Aura( well not exactly American designed..... stolen from GM's German division the Opel Vectra) is pretty good looking. The Opel GTC concept looks sweet as hell. Can we say, " Hello new Vectra"?

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/ogtc450.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/06/live-from-geneva-its-the-opel-gtc-concept/

Davowade
Mar 6, 2007, 11:19 PM
My OLD car sadly.

http://s2.simpload.com/030645ee5ccb2dbbb.jpg

88 Mitsi Cyborg. Spent 4 years on it from when I was still a student making it the car that you see.
Body kit, wheels, paint, stereo etc

chibianh
Mar 6, 2007, 11:28 PM
here's my other honda hatchback.. have had it for about a year now.

http://homepage.mac.com/chibianh/.Pictures/fit1.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/chibianh/.Pictures/fit2.JPG

Artofilm
Mar 6, 2007, 11:38 PM
My newly purchased 1995 Saturn SC1

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6500353050.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4924994)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6500353040.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4924993)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6500353070.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4924995)

RyanSA4
Mar 7, 2007, 05:43 PM
Here are a couple pics of my '98.5 Audi A4 1.8T quattro.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/414086353_05985b1516_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/414086352_6c7eca2fa0_o.jpg

mfacey
Mar 11, 2007, 04:21 AM
Here are a couple pics of my '98.5 Audi A4 1.8T quattro.

Switch wheels recently?

I prefer the ones in the first pic!

Plymouthbreezer
Mar 11, 2007, 11:55 AM
Here's one I never posted. It's my 2000 Chrysler Concorde, 106,000 miles; near mint condition. Don't mind the front plate, I know it looks like poop:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1016/concorde003fc9.jpg

Lovely car. Massive, but oh-so-solid, fast, and sleek. People truly don't believe it's going on seven years (and the design itself, over 10).

redeye be
Mar 11, 2007, 12:00 PM
People truly don't believe it's going on seven years (and the design itself, over 10).
I believe you.


;)

wizwaz3
Mar 11, 2007, 12:01 PM
Here's one I never posted. It's my 2000 Chrysler Concorde

We've been looking at a 2003 for my mom. We like em. Wouldn't ever buy the Dodge version, because it's not as classy.

Plymouthbreezer
Mar 11, 2007, 12:11 PM
We've been looking at a 2003 for my mom. We like em. Wouldn't ever buy the Dodge version, because it's not as classy.My mother has a 2001 LHS, also an awesome car.

The 2002-2004 models had the LHS design (interior on the LX and LXi models was lifted right from the '98-'01 Concorde. Only the top level Limited has the LHS style interior) seeing as the LHS was discontinued after 2001.

I might replace my Concorde with a 300M Special after I graduate high school... But there as so many choices thesedays.

wizwaz3
Mar 11, 2007, 12:31 PM
My mother has a 2001 LHS, also an awesome car.

The 2002-2004 models had the LHS design (interior on the LX and LXi models was lifted right from the '98-'01 Concorde. Only the top level Limited has the LHS style interior) seeing as the LHS was discontinued after 2001.

I might replace my Concorde with a 300M Special after I graduate high school... But there as so many choices thesedays.

300Ms are pretty sexy. I like their successor though, the Chrysler 300 is one DAMN FINE car! :) Either the 300 or a Lexus LS430 are my dream cars. lol

Chrismcfall
Mar 11, 2007, 01:37 PM
The best bit about the C4 (imo) is that the steering wheel hub stays stationary while the wheel turns. Messes with your mind.

Ah yeah. Still, very cool though. Prefer the coupe though.

Plymouthbreezer
Mar 11, 2007, 04:56 PM
300Ms are pretty sexy. I like their successor though, the Chrysler 300 is one DAMN FINE car! :) Either the 300 or a Lexus LS430 are my dream cars. lol
I adore the 300C too. I've driven them, and they are amazing cars. Best design out of MoTown in decades, IMO.

If I will own one as soon as I can afford it - a nice used, low mile '05 Hemi C (silver) is my reasonable dream car. :)

rickvanr
Mar 11, 2007, 05:13 PM
her?

jayb2000
Mar 12, 2007, 01:56 PM
I like it
:D

ErikCLDR
Mar 12, 2007, 03:43 PM
Here's one I never posted. It's my 2000 Chrysler Concorde, 106,000 miles; near mint condition. Don't mind the front plate, I know it looks like poop:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1016/concorde003fc9.jpg


Now that is what I call a land yacht. :p
---
So yea due to extenuating circumstances of my idiot neighbor I am not buying her discovery. I don't even want hers.

Yesterday I looked at
- 1997 Land Rover Discovery SE w/130,000 miles- messed up front susp though so I said no
- 1998 4Runner SR5 w/80k Miles (Ok, had cloth, I wasn't in love though esp for the price)
- 1998 Infiniti QX4 w/80k Miles (Ok too, not comfortable for my 5'10 build- japanese cars I never feel comfortable in)

My mom went online and found me a Discovery outside of boston. We are going to look at it this weekend (only a 2hr drive lol). Its 1998, 72k miles, loaded with the dual sunroofs, cd player, heated power seats, all that good stuff. The seller says its in mint condition. I talked to him on the phone. Wish me luck.

mfacey
Mar 12, 2007, 03:47 PM
Now that is what I call a land yacht. :p
---
So yea due to extenuating circumstances of my idiot neighbor I am not buying her discovery. I don't even want hers.

Yesterday I looked at
- 1997 Land Rover Discovery SE w/130,000 miles- messed up front susp though so I said no
- 1998 4Runner SR5 w/80k Miles (Ok, had cloth, I wasn't in love though esp for the price)
- 1998 Infiniti QX4 w/80k Miles (Ok too, not comfortable for my 5'10 build- japanese cars I never feel comfortable in)

My mom went online and found me a Discovery outside of boston. We are going to look at it this weekend (only a 2hr drive lol). Its 1998, 72k miles, loaded with the dual sunroofs, cd player, heated power seats, all that good stuff. The seller says its in mint condition. I talked to him on the phone. Wish me luck.

How much are the people asking for the cars you mentioned? Also, what engine is in the Disco you're checking out near Boston?

leftfoot
Mar 12, 2007, 04:32 PM
Here's my new baby.

Sold the Altima, and traded in the Vette'.

2007 Audi RS4, pictures taken at the dealership when I bought it :D


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/417278754_0f4c1d9341_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/417278757_af4a549930_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/417279260_049c4e808b_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/417279263_a6b1757abb_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/417279887_cf1ab19627_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/417279886_6250a52cd0_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/417280605_515984348b_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/417280606_f42650b862_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/417280608_24ee04d36e_o.jpg

RyanSA4
Mar 12, 2007, 10:51 PM
Here's my new baby.

Sold the Altima, and traded in the Vette'.

2007 Audi RS4, pictures taken at the dealership when I bought it :D


Gorgeous car Sir. =) How are you liking your new RS4? I'm hoping to pick up an 2001.5 S4 Avant in Casablanca White.

Love the Misano red on the RS4. That an Ibis White are definitely my favorite colors. The only thing I don't like about the RS4 is that there is no option for the Alcantara seats.

Here are some pics of my fathers '06 S4...

http://static.flickr.com/108/305288980_04bbddcc0f.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/99/305344774_5240e3ae4a.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/108/305346924_6dd5316258.jpg

RyanSA4
Mar 12, 2007, 10:59 PM
Switch wheels recently?

I prefer the ones in the first pic!

The 5 spoke ones are my winter wheels.

http://static.flickr.com/110/279520265_aadb38f03b_o.jpg

summer
http://static.flickr.com/95/279532161_2e871a0233_o.jpg

Sweetfeld28
Mar 13, 2007, 01:18 AM
Not to be mean; but i hate you both. :(

But on a happier note... I love both of your cars.

barkins
Mar 13, 2007, 01:24 AM
Here's the only photo I have of my baby and I. :cool:

Grabbed the second pic off the web, but it's the same version. A-spec!

leftfoot
Mar 13, 2007, 01:27 AM
Gorgeous car Sir. =) How are you liking your new RS4? I'm hoping to pick up an 2001.5 S4 Avant in Casablanca White.

Love the Misano red on the RS4. That an Ibis White are definitely my favorite colors. The only thing I don't like about the RS4 is that there is no option for the Alcantara seats.

Here are some pics of my fathers '06 S4...

I'm loving it, every time I exit the car, I have a grin on my face, and I'm coming from a 2000 Corvette modified with about 490hp.

I'm in agreement with you on the seats, but the Recaro's are nice.

I also wish it came with the flat bottomed steering wheel.

BEAUTIFUL S6, Does it have the v8?

leftfoot
Mar 13, 2007, 01:30 AM
Here's the only photo I have of my baby and I. :cool:

Grabbed the second pic off the web, but it's the same version. A-spec!

Sweet car! I'm curious on the engine size, I've never heard of a RL A-Spec, only the TL. :D

barkins
Mar 13, 2007, 01:35 AM
Sweet car! I'm curious on the engine size, I've never heard of a RL A-Spec, only the TL. :D

It's a 3.5L V6 producing 290 horsepower. Not the most powerful car in its class, but with it's all-wheel and plenty of pep, it's one helluva ride!

With the A-Spec package, you get the bigger rims and sportier exterior.

pincho
Mar 13, 2007, 03:38 AM
Here's my new baby.

Sold the Altima, and traded in the Vette'.

2007 Audi RS4, pictures taken at the dealership when I bought it :D

:D German power :D love it

FadeToBlack
Mar 13, 2007, 03:48 AM
Here's my new baby.

Sold the Altima, and traded in the Vette'.

2007 Audi RS4, pictures taken at the dealership when I bought it :D


[IMG]


That's a nice RS4, man. Wow!

Masher500
Mar 13, 2007, 03:39 PM
Here is my baby.. I love my Titan!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/Masher500/PC180062.jpg

Coolnat2004
Mar 13, 2007, 11:21 PM
I finally washed my car and got some decent pictures of it. It's a 3.0L V6 Mitsubishi engine in a 2001 Dodge Stratus coupe. I love it!!

I just converted the gauge backlights to red LEDs, and I added red cathodes under the dash with their own switch to give that cool extra effect after dark. Don't worry though, it is tasteful and installed professionally.

mad jew
Mar 14, 2007, 12:42 AM
I've gone down a horsepower or two...


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/madjew/574e.jpg

jayb2000
Mar 14, 2007, 03:12 PM
Here's my new baby.

Sold the Altima, and traded in the Vette'.

2007 Audi RS4, pictures taken at the dealership when I bought it :D



You're gonna have to change your user name to RIGHTFOOT :-)

Sweet ride!

I would love to get an S6 Avant (or RS6, but thas just crazy talk) to replace my Passat Wagon.

FJ218700
Mar 16, 2007, 09:16 PM
1976 Toyota FJ40,
1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5,
1990 Toyota Pickup,

here's the FJ

AppleIntelRock
Mar 16, 2007, 10:47 PM
1976 Toyota FJ40,
1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5,
1990 Toyota Pickup,

here's the FJ

VERY nice fj40.
the pickup, is it a taco?

Here is my baby.. I love my Titan!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/Masher500/PC180062.jpg

the new tundra's make the titans VERY sad :eek:

ntrsfrml
Mar 17, 2007, 12:41 AM
the new tundra's make the titans VERY sad :eek:

True dat! New Tundra rocks!

AppleIntelRock
Mar 17, 2007, 12:55 AM
True dat! New Tundra rocks!

im messin' w/ ya. titans are cool also.

i've got an avalanche.

the best truck... IN THE WORLD :eek: :cool: :cool:

rmhop81
Mar 17, 2007, 02:46 PM
2007 Quad Cab, Hemi, 20 inch wheels, it's a beast. Just got it on Monday.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/5216/img1410ik5.th.jpg (http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1410ik5.jpg)

NightFlight
Mar 18, 2007, 10:19 AM
Here are my two cars, 2003 Acura CL Type S with a 6 speed manual (less than 2000 were made) and I've got a good amount of performance mods. Second is my 2003 CRV EX. Enjoy :)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2236/dscf0970dfwfac3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1226/dscf0663feffxo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

quagmire
Mar 18, 2007, 11:31 AM
True dat! New Tundra rocks!

Yeah, it does. The 5.7 V8 is powerful. 381 HP and 401 lb of torque. Toyota sure is serious about competing in the full size truck market now. All in all, it is competitive. Tows 10,800 lb. The Silvy/Sierra is 10,500 lb and F-150 is 11,000 lb( although I bet it will scream and kick trying to pull that much with that 300 HP V8 and 365 lb of torque). Styling, IMHO is quite odd. It seems 3 teams designed the truck. One team designed the front end, another did the rear, and the last team did the side. Then they put the truck together and forgot to make the truck look proportional when each profiles are mixed together. It is questionable that Toyota decided to go with the C Frame when the half ton market went fully boxed Frame. I don't think the new Tundra is good enough yet to unseat the Silvy and F-150. But, I bet it will take sales away from the Ram and Titan. Don't get me wrong. The Tundra is competitive to GM's and Ford's offerings, but as their own commericals say, " What makes a work truck beautiful? Guts!" as good as the powertrain is, the frame is questionable. Now the next gen Tundra will be something to be scared at. :) And hopefully Toyota doesn't go on the BS PR stunt of, " We left panel gaps to make it look tough."

FJ218700
Mar 19, 2007, 07:58 AM
VERY nice fj40.
the pickup, is it a taco?

- toyota didn't adopt the name tacoma until 94 or 95, I believe. The 4x2's were always called just "Pick-ups" from the 70's through 94 or 95. 4x4's were classically called Hilux's overseas and from the 70's through today. Although baciscally the same vehicle, 4x4's did not really have an offical name in the states until around 1990, when T-100 was adopted for a few years before switching to Tacoma for both the 4x4 and 4x2 markets.

So no, the pickup is not a "taco"

here's all three toyotas

Masher500
Mar 19, 2007, 12:28 PM
the new tundra's make the titans VERY sad :eek:

Well i had a tundra before my titan which i loved.. I will agree that the new tundras is a very very good truck. But the titan isnt that far off, and after seeing some of the reviews, and looking at the truck my self its all about prefrence. If i were to really tow what the tundra says it can, i would be driving a diesel truck. :D

BTW popular mechanics like the titan better than the tundra!!

CaptainMakulu
Mar 20, 2007, 01:53 AM
I've gone down a horsepower or two...


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/madjew/574e.jpg


Sweet ride. :)

840quadra
Mar 20, 2007, 11:16 AM
2002 (sold) KTM SX 125
2003 KTM SX 125

Working on getting a new 250f :)

http://www.gdoggracing.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2299

jordygreen
Mar 20, 2007, 02:59 PM
mmm nice KTM's i had a Kawasaki 125 but i wanna get a KTM though.

Britanium
Mar 20, 2007, 03:39 PM
Ok, it's not my car, but just a picture of a car I happened to see after a little snowfall.

Winnipeg, MB, Canada :D

mad jew
Mar 20, 2007, 11:40 PM
Sweet ride. :)


Yeah, I'll assume you're still talking about the scooter. :p

AppleIntelRock
Mar 20, 2007, 11:45 PM
Here's one I never posted. It's my 2000 Chrysler Concorde, 106,000 miles; near mint condition. Don't mind the front plate, I know it looks like poop:

Lovely car. Massive, but oh-so-solid, fast, and sleek. People truly don't believe it's going on seven years (and the design itself, over 10).

TRUST ME, I BELIEVE YOU.

Sleek? fast? Solid?

Are you sure you talking about a Chrysler!?!?!?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :p :p

leftfoot
Mar 21, 2007, 01:15 AM
TRUST ME, I BELIEVE YOU.

Sleek? fast? Solid?

Are you sure you talking about a Chrysler!?!?!?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :p :p

If my memory is correct, the new SRT-8 300c does 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, I'm sure thats pretty fast.

mfacey
Mar 21, 2007, 03:34 AM
If my memory is correct, the new SRT-8 300c does 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, I'm sure thats pretty fast.

The official figures are 5 seconds. But with sleek and solid I should hope we're not talking about the same car. The 300C is about as sleek as the grand canyon and solid? Well its a Chrysler. Nuff said. :rolleyes:

radiantm3
Mar 21, 2007, 05:03 AM
The official figures are 5 seconds. But with sleek and solid I should hope we're not talking about the same car. The 300C is about as sleek as the grand canyon and solid? Well its a Chrysler. Nuff said. :rolleyes:

Don't try to argue with americans who buy american cars. It's just not worth it. :p And this advice is coming from a proud American who loves the freedom to buy the best products regardless of where they were made. :cool:

With that said, I can't stand Chrysler either. I can't watch tv or read automobile magazines for the US audience because they give cars like the 300C, crossfire and Mustang (ford, but still) such good reviews when they really drive (and look) like crap. It's sad that american car manufacturers have to fall back on retro designs just to sell a decent looking car these days. The only american car that I love is the vette. I wouldn't touch anything else. Every American car that looks decent these days are based off of a european car (like that saturn roadster) or have gone retro. But even then, I don't think they look that nice.

But this is coming from someone who would rather spend money on high performance tires and suspension over 20" rims.

mfacey
Mar 21, 2007, 05:35 AM
I think the whole point is just that Americans have different values when it comes to cars. Corners are rare in lots of states. There are endless miles of highways and the average american hasn't got the faintest idea of how to drive.
So all american cars (with the exception of the new corvette C6) drive like a sofa, have an automatic gearbox and weigh as much as a jumbo-jet (which saves them in the likely case of them hitting something). Then the only way to make them seem fast is by installing ridiculously huge engines which can't deliver power through the ancient horse-cart like chassis and suspension.

But enough of that! There's plenty of miserable european and asian cars too :D
And.. wait an minute... I drive a Ford too :eek: :rolleyes:

ObsidianIce
Mar 21, 2007, 09:54 AM
Nice CL, what sort of performance mods do you have on it?

Here are my two cars, 2003 Acura CL Type S with a 6 speed manual (less than 2000 were made) and I've got a good amount of performance mods. Second is my 2003 CRV EX. Enjoy :)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2236/dscf0970dfwfac3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1226/dscf0663feffxo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Philgr
Mar 21, 2007, 09:59 AM
I have posted in this thread before, but i got out with some friends the other weekend with the cameras specifically to take pictures of the car

hope you like cos im well pleased with them :D


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/1542sma.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/1647sm.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/lakes5.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/lakes6.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/lakes9.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/1659sma.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/1653sm.jpg

SpookTheHamster
Mar 21, 2007, 10:06 AM
Wow.

You don't happen to have the 2nd, 3rd and 5th ones larger, do you? I need me some new wallpapers.

devilot
Mar 21, 2007, 10:06 AM
hope you like cos im well pleased with them :DI love those pictures! I love how y'all weren't afraid to dirty up your cars and especially love that last picture. Everyone looks like they're enjoying themselves immensely. Thanks for sharing. :)

ObsidianIce
Mar 21, 2007, 10:17 AM
I have posted in this thread before, but i got out with some friends the other weekend with the cameras specifically to take pictures of the car

hope you like cos im well pleased with them :D


snip

those are excellent pictures.. yeah if you have full resolution images and don't mind sharing I'll take a few! Obsidianice@gmail.com

quagmire
Mar 21, 2007, 02:05 PM
The official figures are 5 seconds. But with sleek and solid I should hope we're not talking about the same car. The 300C is about as sleek as the grand canyon and solid? Well its a Chrysler. Nuff said. :rolleyes:

So we're bashing a person for liking the design of the 300C? Remember people styling is SUBJECTIVE. You might not like the styling of the 300C, but another person might.

Don't try to argue with americans who buy american cars. It's just not worth it. And this advice is coming from a proud American who loves the freedom to buy the best products regardless of where they were made.

The same can be said about import fans, Mac fans, etc. It isn't worth arguing with anyone who is a die hard fan who can't give credit where credit is due even if it is to the "enemy".

With that said, I can't stand Chrysler either. I can't watch tv or read automobile magazines for the US audience because they give cars like the 300C, crossfire and Mustang (ford, but still) such good reviews when they really drive (and look) like crap. It's sad that american car manufacturers have to fall back on retro designs just to sell a decent looking car these days. The only american car that I love is the vette. I wouldn't touch anything else. Every American car that looks decent these days are based off of a european car (like that saturn roadster) or have gone retro. But even then, I don't think they look that nice.

I also can't stand Chrysler. IMHO, there designs are there. But, their quality and reliability aren't. My family has had 3 minivans, 2 Jeeps, and a Sebring Convert. All had problems of some sort. Being Chrysler's famous problem transmission failure, radiator problems, engine problems, and suspension problems.

With our experience with Chrysler, we haven't ruled out the domestics. GM has actually given my family to my memory the most reliable vehicles. From a 1996 Suburban to a 2007 Saturn Aura XR( I know, its to new to tell reliability yet). Our 4 GM's haven't given us a single major problem. My dad had a Corolla back in the 80's. It blew a manifold at around 20K miles( but I am not saying Toyota is crap). More recently my dads 2002 BMW 330xi( now with my bro) had to have the water pump replaced at 45K since it literally blew up and a new pulley since it worn out and making a loud squealing noise at 70K miles.

PS: I can't stand reading Car&Driver and Motortrend. Especially Car&Driver. I find them having a HEAVY leaning to Honda. And seem to find ways to make the Honda win. I am not saying Honda is bad, but I find that C&D don't give a fair chance to the other vehicles if a Honda is involved.

Lunja
Mar 21, 2007, 03:46 PM
I can drive, but don't own a car at the moment, so this is my ride, trials style :cool:

2001 Saracen X-ile frame
Black Magura HS33 hydraulic rear brake
Avid SD5 front V-brake with SD7 lever
Mavic D521CD rear rim on an Hope XC hub, laced with Sapim
Sun Rhynolite front rim on Real hub, laced with DTSwiss
Echo bulge bar and stem
And not shown - Middleburn RS7 cranks, black arms with gold bashguard

My bike pwns :D

leftfoot
Mar 21, 2007, 05:29 PM
Don't try to argue with americans who buy american cars. It's just not worth it. :p

Uhh, I hope you're not referring to me. Go back to page 72, and look at my post there.

leftfoot
Mar 21, 2007, 05:31 PM
The official figures are 5 seconds. But with sleek and solid I should hope we're not talking about the same car. The 300C is about as sleek as the grand canyon and solid? Well its a Chrysler. Nuff said. :rolleyes:

I didn't say anything about the styling, so I don't know where you're getting that information. :confused:

wizwaz3
Mar 21, 2007, 05:49 PM
I don't love or hate any particular BRAND, I usually base my opinions on design. I like the design of the Chrysler 300, the Dodge Charger and RAM, I like the design of the Ford Fusion, the Chevy Impala, I like the Honda Accord Coupe. I like designs, not necessarily brands. I've had great reliability with my 98 Chrysler Sebring coupe, not convert., but that may just be because it's a Mitsubishi Eclipse with a Chrysler designed body and label.

Quit bashing each other, we're not barbarians. To the person from the Netherlands, I don't see how you know American's driving so well since you don't live here. Who knows, maybe you did, but the biggest reason is because everybody thinks they're the best driver. My mom thinks she's the best, I think she sucks, my friend thinks he's best, I think he's slow, and I think I'm best, and everyone says I'm crazy. That's how it works. Nobody drives correctly, but think they do.

All that said, I have to admit, Toyota and Honda have some serious reliability. Any Japanese car, really, I mean, my Chrysler branded Mitsubishi's up around 130,000 miles and it's fine. Like the day it was made.

rickvanr
Mar 21, 2007, 06:14 PM
I have posted in this thread before, but i got out with some friends the other weekend with the cameras specifically to take pictures of the car

hope you like cos im well pleased with them :D


<snip> WOW <snip>

I now have a large erection.

Those cars are beautiful. I've wanted one since the moment I first laid eyes upon one. She's my midlife crisis car.

Again, I'm very impressed. Such a beautiful car.

Note that I'm equally smitten with the Elise.

Dont Hurt Me
Mar 21, 2007, 06:34 PM
Doing my part on global pollution, 32 city 35 highway:) Fully loaded 1st new car in 12 years.:) SE handles terrific,16" wheels,172 watt stereo, loads of room, beautiful paint, almost as good as my wife.:D

FadeToBlack
Mar 21, 2007, 09:31 PM
Doing my part on global pollution, 32 city 35 highway:) Fully loaded 1st new car in 12 years.:) SE handles terrific,16" wheels,172 watt stereo, loads of room, beautiful paint, almost as good as my wife.:D

I absolutely LOVE the new Accent. They are the best car in their class, IMO.

Good choice buying Hyundai. I love my Elantra.

EDIT: Just spotted an XD2 Elantra in front of the Accent in a couple pics. Yours, too?

Dont Hurt Me
Mar 22, 2007, 05:51 AM
I have to agree with you, after seeing my wife drive her Elantra for almost the past year I was very impressed. There was nothing that competed with the Accent SE for $15,000 in my view. Size wise, braking,engine,looks,instruments etc it just had everything beat. The yaris was a close second but i was so disappointed with its guage cluster of Fuel & speedometer only plus it didnt offer 4 wheel disc brakes with abs which was standard on the SE.

Sad note is my 1980 MGB is now gone:p Im over it:D

FadeToBlack
Mar 22, 2007, 08:57 PM
I have to agree with you, after seeing my wife drive her Elantra for almost the past year I was very impressed. There was nothing that competed with the Accent SE for $15,000 in my view. Size wise, braking,engine,looks,instruments etc it just had everything beat. The yaris was a close second but i was so disappointed with its guage cluster of Fuel & speedometer only plus it didnt offer 4 wheel disc brakes with abs which was standard on the SE.

Sad note is my 1980 MGB is now gone:p Im over it:D

Yeah, the Yaris is a nice car, but the Accent is MUCH nicer, IMO. As you said, the Yaris' gauge cluster being in the center is a bit weird. I don't know if I could get used to that. It has Toyota build-quality, but honestly, Hyundai's build quality seems just as good, from my experience.

ahriman
Mar 22, 2007, 09:43 PM
my ride (at Moab):

70719

840quadra
Mar 22, 2007, 10:16 PM
mmm nice KTM's i had a Kawasaki 125 but i wanna get a KTM though.

Thanks,

I really like the engines on these things, and the light weight feel of it is great!

kildraik
Mar 22, 2007, 11:01 PM
my ride (at Moab):

4Runners are such fun midsize SUV's- Toyota's are great vehicles. We are in the process of ordering a new Tundra.

ahriman
Mar 23, 2007, 12:24 AM
4Runners are such fun midsize SUV's

hey! careful what you call my truck ...
;)~

one of the coolest trucks i have ever seen was a tundra the same trip i as the pic i posted

blackscooby
Mar 23, 2007, 09:45 AM
I have posted in this thread before, but i got out with some friends the other weekend with the cameras specifically to take pictures of the car

hope you like cos im well pleased with them :D


Exige ~ Top choice Sir :)
Fantastic photos in some fantastic scenery

TequilaBoobs
Mar 23, 2007, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE=radiantm3;3464933] The only american car that I love is the vette. QUOTE]

what about the Ford GT, or Saleen, or Shelby?

SodaPopMonster
Mar 23, 2007, 12:54 PM
Don't have a car yet (Saving for one, unlike some teens here I have to work for my things ;) )

I'm pretty set on an El Camino!

Picture- not mine, just to show what a good one looks like :)

http://nor-cal.chevelles.net/photos/chuck%20el%20camino.jpg


'til then, I'll have to do with this

http://www.hiros.com/hotwheels/image/dscn2239s.jpg

NightFlight
Mar 23, 2007, 03:17 PM
Nice CL, what sort of performance mods do you have on it?

Thanks for the compliment...

I've got an AEM CAI, PowerXS Headers (didn't feel like paying $1200 for the comptechs), eiback springs, brembo blanks, Hawk HPS+ pads, and I've removed the resonator, the only weak link on the car is my all season tires... I dynoed 254 to the wheels :) Not bad for a NA V6 :)

blitzkrieg79
Mar 23, 2007, 03:38 PM
With all the American car bashing, especially the Chrysler group, funny thing about this company is that recently they haven't developed any sedan by themselves, in the 1980s-1990s they heavily colaborated with Mitsubishi where Mitsu did most of the work. In late 1990s-till now they are even using Mercedes platforms. Cars such as Caliber, the new Sebring, Jeep Patriot, all use the new Mitsubishi Lancer platform developed by Mitsubishi. Chrysler 300C, Dodge Charger, Dodge Magnum are all based upon the 1990s Mercedes E-class platform. it seems that Chrysler doesn't design any of the sedans from ground up by themselves. They only make trucks and vans by themselves.

eddiejclayton
Mar 23, 2007, 07:38 PM
Here's my weekend car:

http://www.ejc3.net/assets/images/IMG_0531.jpg

My daily driver is a 2004 civic. :(

dualcore
Mar 23, 2007, 09:08 PM
euro>asian>american (styling)
asian>euro>american (reliability)


'nuff said.

mad jew
Mar 24, 2007, 04:10 AM
Where does Australia fit in? This conversation sucks. Different countries have different roads, different cultures, and different demands of their cars. Comparing them internationally is pointless.

quagmire
Mar 24, 2007, 08:08 AM
Where does Australia fit in?


I think he will lump Australia in with American mostly. Since the big Australian brands are Holden(GM) and Ford. :rolleyes: Anyway, don't bother arguing with the ignorant.

mad jew
Mar 24, 2007, 08:24 AM
Yeah, but not so much anymore. The Commodore and Falcon are probably more similar to the Europeans nowadays. I know that's certainly the type of car they're aiming for from a marketing perspective. The Toyota Camry and Mitsubishi 380 obviously have a large Japanese influence too.


Anyway, don't bother arguing with the ignorant.


Exactly. Car arguments always end in tears. :D


I saw a Cadillac CTS on the road a while back. It must have been a test vehicle for Holden because they're not sold here. I've gotta say that it is one of the most handsome cars I've ever seen. Fantastic styling.

quagmire
Mar 24, 2007, 08:47 AM
I saw a Cadillac CTS on the road a while back. It must have been a test vehicle for Holden because they're not sold here. I've gotta say that it is one of the most handsome cars I've ever seen. Fantastic styling.

GMNA is using Holden a lot more lately for their RWD expertise. You should be seeing Commodores with long ass hoods soon. It is Cadillac's new V12 engine being tested. You should also see Camaro test mules as well down there. It doesn't surpise me that you saw a CTS down in Australia. Holden had a hand in the Sigma platform which underpins the current CTS. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a hand in Sigma II which underpins the new CTS. Holden had a huge hand developing the Zeta platform. Which underpins your new Commodore, the new Pontiac G8, Camaro, the next Impala, and a few more cars possibly. Holden will be providing us a mid size RWD platform to fit the next G6. I believe the platform is based off of the platform used for the Torana concept.

mfacey
Mar 24, 2007, 02:23 PM
Finally got some pictures of my first car!

Ford Focus 1.8i (1999)
4 cyl. 16 valve, 115 hp

Handling is amazing. It's a good fun car to drive!:D

daneoni
Mar 24, 2007, 04:25 PM
Finally got some pictures of my first car!

Ford Focus 1.8i (1999)
4 cyl. 16 valve, 115 hp

Handling is amazing. It's a good fun car to drive!:D

Heh, did my driving test in one of these. Good car indeed.

SpookTheHamster
Mar 24, 2007, 04:47 PM
My sister has a Focus, they're great fun to drive.

Apparently the American ones are pretty dire in comparison, especially the current models.

mad jew
Mar 24, 2007, 06:21 PM
You should be seeing Commodores with long ass hoods soon. It is Cadillac's new V12 engine being tested.


Wow! I'll try to keep my eyes peeled for that one. Most of the test vehicles end up in Victoria because that's where the head office and design studios are. We've got the factory here in SA though, so we still get a few mules through.

quagmire
Mar 24, 2007, 08:26 PM
Wow! I'll try to keep my eyes peeled for that one. Most of the test vehicles end up in Victoria because that's where the head office and design studios are. We've got the factory here in SA though, so we still get a few mules through.

Yeah, it is really exciting. No one knows what kind of mule it will be in, but that is one possibility. And most likely as I don't think many people will notice a random Commodore with a bit longer hood. Where in the US, a Caddy with a long hood would draw attention like Tom Cruise's weird beliefs. :p It is said to be two 3.6 V6's sharing the same crankshaft or something like that. Or of course GM could again decide to put it on the backburner. But, so far Lutz has confirmed it is in development. Among other goodies like a 3 valve OHV engine.

PS: We really need to exchange AIM SN's or something. So we don't spam these kind of threads. :) :p

mad jew
Mar 25, 2007, 01:49 AM
Yeah, it is really exciting. No one knows what kind of mule it will be in, but that is one possibility. And most likely as I don't think many people will notice a random Commodore with a bit longer hood. Where in the US, a Caddy with a long hood would draw attention like Tom Cruise's weird beliefs. :p It is said to be two 3.6 V6's sharing the same crankshaft or something like that. Or of course GM could again decide to put it on the backburner. But, so far Lutz has confirmed it is in development. Among other goodies like a 3 valve OHV engine.


Volkswagen-style. Nice, I like it. There are a tonne of morphed Commodores as it is, so another long-hooded one surely won't draw too much attention. Plus, there's a lot of open space for GM guys to just disappear into without getting hassled by the public. I reckon your guess is a pretty well-founded one.


PS: We really need to exchange AIM SN's or something. So we don't spam these kind of threads. :) :p


Yeah. I really should get into this IM stuff. :o

quagmire
Mar 25, 2007, 08:45 AM
Volkswagen-style. Nice, I like it. There are a tonne of morphed Commodores as it is, so another long-hooded one surely won't draw too much attention. Plus, there's a lot of open space for GM guys to just disappear into without getting hassled by the public. I reckon your guess is a pretty well-founded one.

VW style is in W form. A W12( and W16 in case for the Veyron) are two V6's right next to each other. GM's design is one behind the other. But, it is similar to VW style. So close enough. :p

ErikCLDR
Mar 25, 2007, 06:52 PM
delete

Plymouthbreezer
Mar 25, 2007, 07:15 PM
If you don't know, I love cars. I got my license not too long ago and I managed to pick up an awesome deal on this.

1998 LR Discovery LSE
88,000 miles
White Gold Exterior
Beige/Tan Interior
6-Disc CD changer
Dual Sunroofs
Front and Rear brush guards

Erik! We're trading cars next time you're up here!

I have a new fetish for these things. Grr.

Chrismcfall
Mar 27, 2007, 02:39 PM
Apparently the American ones are pretty dire in comparison, especially the current models.
Checked on Wikipedia, and they look the same design wise. Still, the newer uk design looks very nice. I like the ST.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/images/86451-1.jpg

mfacey
Mar 27, 2007, 02:58 PM
Checked on Wikipedia, and they look the same design wise. Still, the newer uk design looks very nice. I like the ST.


I love the ST especially in that color! :D

I'd love to have one. The Focus really does handle outstandingly. Adding extra punch in the ST version could only make the experience more pleasant.

Oh and as far as I know, the biggest difference styling-wise between the US and European Focus is that the US version has bigger bumpers. Oh and the US version of the new Focus is only available in the sedan styling, which is not the Focus' best suit...

NightFlight
Mar 27, 2007, 11:36 PM
Ford, please bring the NICE Focus over here. We are stuck with this awful old version, and we also have a really weak reskin on the way :rolleyes: FoMoCo needs to get their act in gear....

Veritas&Equitas
Mar 28, 2007, 12:11 AM
If you don't know, I love cars. I got my license not too long ago and I managed to pick up an awesome deal on this.

1998 LR Discovery LSE
88,000 miles
White Gold Exterior
Beige/Tan Interior
6-Disc CD changer
Dual Sunroofs
Front and Rear brush guards

Not to be nosy, but what is "an awesome deal?" How much?

ErikCLDR
Mar 28, 2007, 06:49 PM
Not to be nosy, but what is "an awesome deal?" How much?

$6250. Its a 9/10 mechanically (cruise control does not work due to broken vacuum hose- oh well:rolleyes: ), 10/10 electrically, and a 8.5/10 aesthetically. I saw a similar one go on ebay motors for at least $7800.

I LOVE it. It rides pretty well for a very truck like vehicle. It is vastly underpowered but I can deal with it (TINY 4.0 V8 pushing a 4600lb vehicle). Anyone who wants to take me up on that fight go ahead. Lets just say its 0-60 time is 11.2 seconds- count that out. I love being up high and despite its tall stature, it never feels tippy IMO. I would actually say my sisters grand cherokee feels more tippy. Build quality is excellent. I drove it to school the other day and I got a lot of looks haha.

SpookTheHamster
Mar 29, 2007, 08:37 AM
Checked on Wikipedia, and they look the same design wise. Still, the newer uk design looks very nice. I like the ST.

The old one does look pretty similar, but my Uncle rented an American one thinking it would be the same, only to find that the interior was not as good, and the car just felt "wrong"

ObsidianIce
Mar 29, 2007, 11:20 AM
$6250. Its a 9/10 mechanically (cruise control does not work due to broken vacuum hose- oh well:rolleyes: ), 10/10 electrically, and a 8.5/10 aesthetically. I saw a similar one go on ebay motors for at least $7800.

I LOVE it. It rides pretty well for a very truck like vehicle. It is vastly underpowered but I can deal with it (TINY 4.0 V8 pushing a 4600lb vehicle). Anyone who wants to take me up on that fight go ahead. Lets just say its 0-60 time is 11.2 seconds- count that out. I love being up high and despite its tall stature, it never feels tippy IMO. I would actually say my sisters grand cherokee feels more tippy. Build quality is excellent. I drove it to school the other day and I got a lot of looks haha.

Nice ride! pretty good deal. Just a broken vacuum hose? that's an easy fix. Hit pepboys or something like that and they'll be able to take care of that easily for you. Just a matter of replacing a little rubber hose.

ErikCLDR
Mar 29, 2007, 08:18 PM
Nice ride! pretty good deal. Just a broken vacuum hose? that's an easy fix. Hit pepboys or something like that and they'll be able to take care of that easily for you. Just a matter of replacing a little rubber hose.

I wouldn't trust any cars with pepboys, especially a quirky and eccentric british one that they don't know anything about. I've got a few ins with the Land Rover Dealer (friends dad is the manager, another friends dad is a salesman). If they still want a ridiculous amount of money for the fix my parents know a good repair shop.

ObsidianIce
Mar 29, 2007, 11:45 PM
I wouldn't trust any cars with pepboys, especially a quirky and eccentric british one that they don't know anything about. I've got a few ins with the Land Rover Dealer (friends dad is the manager, another friends dad is a salesman). If they still want a ridiculous amount of money for the fix my parents know a good repair shop.


No no no, you don't let pepboys or anyone do the work. I drive a turbocharged infiniti i30t, trust me I don't let them do any work on it. Don't let them touch it, but pull it into the parking lot, Identify the hose... and they can get you the correct replacement. Having the hookup at the dealership would definitely work though

timmillwood
Mar 30, 2007, 06:04 PM
Here is my Citroen C4

it is 1 year old ex-demo

C4 SX 1.6 HDI (92BHP)

RoverMan
Mar 30, 2007, 09:11 PM
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mantic
Mar 30, 2007, 09:34 PM
e36 BMW m3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Manitc/BMW%20M3/SIde.jpg

zagato27
Mar 31, 2007, 12:42 AM
e36 BMW m3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Manitc/BMW%20M3/SIde.jpg

Nice and clean. Sweet ride! BTW, where r u in AL?

Father Jack
Mar 31, 2007, 12:50 AM
e36 BMW m3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Manitc/BMW%20M3/SIde.jpg

Beautiful looking car :)

FJ

mantic
Mar 31, 2007, 09:04 AM
Nice and clean. Sweet ride! BTW, where r u in AL?


Thanks. I'm currently in Mobile AL.

mantic
Mar 31, 2007, 09:08 AM
Beautiful looking car :)

FJ

Thanks man..

I see you're from Ireland. What part if you don't mind me asking?

I've been trying to plan a trip there for the past 2 years but it never seems to happen.

ErikCLDR
Mar 31, 2007, 09:16 AM
My beloved 2004 Land Rover Discovery Series II SE7 on the mountain side near my home (in a sanctioned off-roading area).

I love the '98 Discovery LSE. It looks very well kept. The 4.6 liter V8 in the '03 and '04 Discovery greatly improved performance over the earlier 4 liter, but the 4 liter is safer for someone with a new license. :D

My dad has the same car as you, only an '03 SE7 and its black and doesn't have the brush guard. He has 18" wheels though, I assume you but 16"s on for off-roading. There is quite a difference between the 4.0 v8 and the 4.6 v8. There are 4.0 6 cyl engines. The 4.0 is ok, but a little more power for passing would be nice.

I really like my LSE, although not as powerful or comfortable as the Discovery II's, it still has that commanding feeling and go anywhere attitude. My only gripes other than power are FUEL ECONOMY esp with SMALL gas tank and the requirement of premium fuel, and the cupholders (pop out of the dash, not the ones to the right and the left of the shifter found on the newer ones) can only fit a dixie cup, but then block the HVAC controls.

mantic
Mar 31, 2007, 09:25 AM
My dad has the same car as you, only an '03 SE7 and its black and doesn't have the brush guard. He has 18" wheels though, I assume you but 16"s on for off-roading. There is quite a difference between the 4.0 v8 and the 4.6 v8. There are 4.0 6 cyl engines. The 4.0 is ok, but a little more power for passing would be nice.

I really like my LSE, although not as powerful or comfortable as the Discovery II's, it still has that commanding feeling and go anywhere attitude. My only gripes other than power are FUEL ECONOMY esp with SMALL gas tank and the requirement of premium fuel, and the cupholders (pop out of the dash, not the ones to the right and the left of the shifter found on the newer ones) can only fit a dixie cup, but then block the HVAC controls.


I hate the cup holders in my car as well. They run in tandom at the rear of the center console. Once you place your beverage there shifting becomes cumbersome and no longer enjoyable. Not only that but you have no place to rest your right arm with anything in there. Thank god for sealable containers that I can just throw where ever I see fit :)

RoverMan
Mar 31, 2007, 04:41 PM
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ErikCLDR
Mar 31, 2007, 06:06 PM
The Disco looks great in black. I almost bought a black '03 SE, but I found this '04 with the locking center diff for almost the same money. Yes, I swapped the 18's for off-roading, and because the 16's improve the ride quality, eliminating some of the chopiness from the short wheelbase. Manually bumping it down into third gear seemed to help when passing in my dad's '01 with the 4.0. In most conditions, though, the 4.0 is perfectly acceptable. Remarkable, considering it is out of a 1960's Buick. :) It is also extremely durable and reliable when cared for properly. Perfect for an off-roader.

I've always had an eye for the LSE, as the unique chrome bumpers give them a classy look. A major upside of the Series I Disco is that it is easier to repair and modify than the Series II, which relies upon a lot of electronics. They're nice when they work, but they can strand you on the trail when they fail. If I built a dedicated trail rig, I would use a Disco I. If you haven't taken yours off the beaten path yet, you should definitely give it a go. You'll love your Rover even more, and make your Jeep-owning friends jealous. :D

The bigger cupholders, from '02 onward, were about as major an upgrade as the 4.6. There are actually a few on eBay if you wanted to install some. They simply screw into the transmission tunnel, and they should fit the Disco I. The cupholders on my old Freelander were on top of the dashboard, where an emergency maneuver or pothole would create a deluge down the stereo and into the heater. I love eccentric British cars. :)

The very strange thing about my dad's 03 disco is that it does have the CDL hooked up (all the DII's up to 03 had the CDL but linkage to engage it). I dunno if it was an option or what. We are the original owners and he never modified it. Unfortunately, like many other D1's, my CDL is stuck in the unlocked position. Hopefully a little WD40 from underneath will loosen it up so that I won't have to take out the center console and regrease it.

Yea I have seen those cupholders, I might get a pair- they're $60, but then again the map pocket does a pretty good job. As for Freelanders, I HATE them. We've had them as loaner cars and they just seem to be really cheep and poorly designed. My mom refers to them as "the mistake".

A lot of times when I want to pass and I floor it, it still wants to hang out in 4th gear and no downshift. Jumping down to 3rd manually seems like a good idea.

I actually just got back from off roading. I went up to this "road" in my town that is dirt and unmaintained. Its basically all dirt, mud, and big puddles. So my friend and I were going along, it was doing an amazing job getting through everything. The road diverged into two directions, and randomly we decided to go left. So we started going up the road, I look ahead and it just looks like wet dirt. Then all of a sudden the right side of the truck sunk into the ground. I put a little more pressure on the gas and we go a little further and the wheels start spinning. I put it in reverse and I go a 10 feet and the wheels start spinning. Let me tell you now this road is in the middle of nowhere, it goes through a nature preserve and there is no cell phone service. So I put it in drive and again we get stuck, I put it in reverse and we're stuck. By that time our legs were shaking we were so scared. My friend got out and pushed it and we got out within 30 seconds. The left wheels had a perfectly firm driving surface (I wish I had front and rear lockers, as well as a working center one). It scared the S*** out of us. luckily we got out alive. When we were stuck though the mud was up past the running boards. There must have been an underground stream or something.

ErikCLDR
Apr 2, 2007, 06:40 PM
delete

rickvanr
Apr 2, 2007, 07:06 PM
^^ my car gets dirtier driving down the highway.. :p

ErikCLDR
Apr 2, 2007, 10:34 PM
^^ my car gets dirtier driving down the highway.. :p

Thus the word minor, it was pretty much wet dirt and puddles. You can't really see it but there were tiny mud splatters all over it.

esco
Apr 2, 2007, 11:57 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/31365584_146ae9ef80.jpg

RoverMan
Apr 3, 2007, 12:06 AM
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Daveway
Apr 3, 2007, 12:23 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/31365584_146ae9ef80.jpg

I love BMWs! They really are the ultimate driving machine. I had the pleasure of driving and X3 and a 7 series last week.

Do the X5s have the angel eye headlights? jw

esco
Apr 3, 2007, 12:28 AM
I love BMWs! They really are the ultimate driving machine. I had the pleasure of driving and X3 and a 7 series last week.

Do the X5s have the angel eye headlights? jw

hah, i love BMWs too :D

and to answer your headlights question, yeah, the X5s got the angel eye headlights in the 2004 refresh

ErikCLDR
Apr 3, 2007, 06:03 AM
I love BMWs! They really are the ultimate driving machine. I had the pleasure of driving and X3 and a 7 series last week.

Do the X5s have the angel eye headlights? jw

I never under understood why the X5 had down hill decent control, but no low range 4wd. If you're gonna have it get down the hill, you should make it so it can get back up. :p I really love the exterior original x5 styling, and I almost like it more than 2008 x5, but the two are beautiful. I just hate BMW interiors, they have never done much for me. They're nice, but they're pretty spartan and not very unique.

To RoverMan:

Land Rovers do seem to have a lot of oddities. Online I saw a bunch of LE marked Discoveries but they had the chrome bumpers, full wood interior, and boost alloy wheels found on the LSE. I looked at my neighbors D1 and it was an "SE" but lacked the dual sunroofs, which is what defines an SE from and SD along with power seats, which hers had.

Yea, me and my friend were kinda dumb going off in there alone with no tools. We didn't expect there to be like sink holes. Technically, the road is public so other than a little dirt and puddles thats all we expected.

I can't even say how much I love my disco though. I always loved Land Rovers. I was going to get my dads 2003 because he never drives it (he commutes 150 miles a day so as you know that would not be economical) but he is going to replace it something. Its also in the shop right now, I forget what it needs but they had to order parts. The D1 in some ways I like more than the DII. D1 feels more rugged and in some ways I like the styling of my LSE, it just seems overall complete. I drove our Grand Cherokee yesterday and I just like hated after driving my D1 so much. I couldn't see like I can in the disco. I found my self constantly looking around the front roof pillars.

Nice Coffee table hahah! I love your dad's LR3. I absolutely love them. How is the reliability? I've heard mixed things. I think when you buy a rover you either get one that will run forever without a problem or one where everything breaks. Land Rovers reliability would probably sky rocket if they used ford locks and window mechanisms and if they made EAS an option.

nplima
Apr 3, 2007, 07:14 AM
bow before my 10 year old peugeot 106!!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/444816774_4933bced02.jpg
featuring a massive 50bhp, 953cc. engine!


licence plate is IM-13-37

CRAZYBUBBA
Apr 3, 2007, 09:25 AM
doesn't adding your liscence plate seem a little too personal?


bow before my 10 year old peugeot 106!!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/444816774_4933bced02.jpg
featuring a massive 50bhp, 953cc. engine!


licence plate is IM-13-37

ErikCLDR
Apr 3, 2007, 12:59 PM
bow before my 10 year old peugeot 106!!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/444816774_4933bced02.jpg
featuring a massive 50bhp, 953cc. engine!


licence plate is IM-13-37

0 to 60 in... never? :p

Coolnat2004
Apr 3, 2007, 02:22 PM
doesn't adding your liscence plate seem a little too personal?

IM-13-37 = I'M leet.

Lukeinnj
Apr 4, 2007, 05:50 PM
A recently purchased 2004 Focus ZTS...replaced the white 98 Civic that got totaled. Love it.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/416545045_90f075e578.jpg

ITASOR
Apr 4, 2007, 06:28 PM
doesn't adding your liscence plate seem a little too personal?

Do you cover your license plate when you go driving around? Lots of people see it then...

RoverMan
Apr 4, 2007, 09:14 PM
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wongulous
Apr 4, 2007, 11:31 PM
My car is just a beater, but eh. Too many people post amazing cars in this thread... there have got to be people without beemers and landrovers and new cars. Mine is a 1991 Mazda 929S. It was actually the nicest variant of the nicest model Mazda made, and the last year before a redesign that really cramped space (though did bring better aesthetics--oh well). Despite having a rotary drive (!), power-everything, heated leather seats, a great moonroof, and even a very advanced radio for its day with a peculiar little digital equalizer that tries to look like a real physical equalizer, there were no cupholders and only a couple of choices for paint colors. How weird is that? Oh, 1991!

ErikCLDR
Apr 5, 2007, 06:20 AM
His LR3, a 2005, is the most reliable Rover we have had, and we've had six in total. The worst problem it has had was a rattle in the back seat. The early LR3's were subject to computer and air-compressor problems, but this one has been trouble-free. Now that I've said that, I'm sure it will go Apollo 13 tomorrow. :D It would be nice to have an LR3 without EAS here in the States, but I don't think Land Rover will do it. LRNA seems to be creating a price-buffer between its models, and a lower-cost LR3 would infringe on LR2 territory. They even stopped offering the V6 without the premium package. The LR3 is amazing. It wafts down the highway like a Rolls Royce, yet can kick my Disco's butt off-road. If anything, the LR3 makes off-roading a bit boring, as it makes even the toughest trails seem easy. After the cushiness of the LR3, I bought a '57 Series I to experience off-roading as it was meant to be. Here it is with the new tires on it.

Wow, that is a beauty. My dad had a similar '88 Series IIa about 20 years ago but he sold it to a friend. The irony of the story is that my dad practically gave that car away and it was in very good condition, his friend used it for about a year, parked it in its parents front yard, and its been there ever since, basically rotting away. Obviously the body panels can't rust but things have lived inside obviously and the frame is surely gone. Its quite a shame. After that he had an MGB, VW bug, a crappy mustang, some crappy sounding pickuptruck, a Jeep Grand Wagoneer (his favorite highway safe car he's ever owned). My dad also has had a 1991 Range Rover. I don't remember it very well in that I was 1 when he got it and 3 when he got rid of it when it got totaled. Then he had a 1993, 1996, and 1999 suburbans, and now our disco.

I've never understood Land Rover's model lineup and price correlation.

When the LR3 came out, it cost $45,000 pretty well equipped. The v8 was a lot more powerful than the range rover, it had terrain response, 7 seats, overall a larger car. Meanwhile though, the range rover cost $80,000.

Another thing I noticed is that in like 1995, the discovery and Range Rover were pretty similar. Basically the same interior, same frame, and same body parts. The Range Rover had fake wood, and analog clock, and a slightly bigger engine depending on if it was the LWB. However, didn't the rangey cost significantly more than the discovery?

I am trying to find this old like price list/catolog thing for Series Land Rovers from the early 60's. It had all the models and options for them. The base price I believe was around $2200.

yeldarb123
Apr 7, 2007, 07:02 AM
I am finally graduating with my civil engineering degree in a couple of weeks and have a job lined up that needs a vehicle. I love this truck, 2007 4.0 V6 4x4 Ranger

emerica9283
Apr 7, 2007, 07:39 AM
this is my truck 05 tundra.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/emerica_9283/truck.jpg

mantic
Apr 7, 2007, 10:44 AM
this is my truck 05 tundra.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/emerica_9283/truck.jpg

Nice truck. I have one of those too. 06 4dr 4x4 with the trd package. Did you get notice of the balljoint recall by Toyota? I'm gonna take mine in have it done sometime this week.

So far it has been a really solid truck.

ErikCLDR
Apr 7, 2007, 01:42 PM
this is my truck 05 tundra.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/emerica_9283/truck.jpg

No thats 2/3 of your truck :p

Tundras are really nice, my friends dad has one.

smokeyrabbit
Apr 7, 2007, 02:26 PM
Another thing I noticed is that in like 1995, the discovery and Range Rover were pretty similar. Basically the same interior, same frame, and same body parts. The Range Rover had fake wood, and analog clock, and a slightly bigger engine depending on if it was the LWB. However, didn't the rangey cost significantly more than the discovery?

I am trying to find this old like price list/catolog thing for Series Land Rovers from the early 60's. It had all the models and options for them. The base price I believe was around $2200.

Sacriledge! Range Rovers have never had FAKE wood. The 95 Disco and Classic RR did have the same dash. The Disco drivetrain was originally derived from the RR of the time. You can check out rangerovers.net (http://www.rangerovers.net) for all your RR info needs.

ErikCLDR
Apr 7, 2007, 03:33 PM
Sacriledge! Range Rovers have never had FAKE wood. The 95 Disco and Classic RR did have the same dash. The Disco drivetrain was originally derived from the RR of the time. You can check out rangerovers.net (http://www.rangerovers.net) for all your RR info needs.

Actually, they do have slightly different dashes. Look at pics.

RoverMan
Apr 7, 2007, 06:09 PM
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ErikCLDR
Apr 7, 2007, 10:18 PM
Yea no one knows the difference between Land Rovers and Range Rovers and that Range Rovers are a model of Land Rovers. Its quite amazing.

Two Random Notes:
1) I saw an LR2 at the dealer today there was one on display out front. I didn't go up close to it, but reliability aside I think it could be a good contender against the Lexus RX and Acura RDX.
2) If they dropped the Price on the Range Rover Sport HSE to like $44-$49k their would be a lot more RRS's than MDX's, X5's, and Mercedes ML's

SkyBell
Apr 8, 2007, 11:02 PM
Arghh..Land....Rover...Overload!!!:p

RoverMan
Apr 9, 2007, 12:06 AM
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ErikCLDR
Apr 9, 2007, 05:55 AM
Sorry. We're addicts. :D Solihull forever!

Hahhah x2

You have to let me know how that LR3 of your fathers holds up. My parents have decided that next year they are buying a new car- possibly an LR3, ML350, or a Land Cruiser. Its nice to see mercedes has a diesel ML so that model might be a good option depending on the cost of gas.

BarryW
Apr 9, 2007, 06:22 AM
Here is a picture of my old Land Rover, Late Series 2A

darkwing
Apr 9, 2007, 06:41 AM
Here's my GTO.

Chrismcfall
Apr 9, 2007, 07:42 AM
Nice car, from what I can see. Does anybody here have any modern LR's like a Disco 3, Or a RR Sport?

redeye be
Apr 9, 2007, 11:33 AM
Arghh..Land....Rover...Overload!!!:p

It could indeed be time to split off a Land Rover thread.

ErikCLDR
Apr 9, 2007, 02:02 PM
Here is a picture of my old Land Rover, Late Series 2A
How beautiful. I love the old series. Not comfortable, not highway worthy really, but they are so cool.

Nice car, from what I can see. Does anybody here have any modern LR's like a Disco 3, Or a RR Sport?

My dad has a 2003 Disco II SE-7, and I have a 1998 Disco I LSE. Nothing from the current lineup unfortunately. Maybe my madre next year.

killmoms
Apr 9, 2007, 02:06 PM
Just bought my first car, it's a '96 Chrysler Sebring convertible. I know, kinda granny-car, but the price was decent and... CONVERTIBLE!

http://www.killmoms.com/matt/thecar.jpg

I'll take some better (read: closer) ones when I get the chance to wash it. It's kinda dirty at the moment. :o

Plymouthbreezer
Apr 9, 2007, 03:02 PM
Just bought my first car, it's a '96 Chrysler Sebring convertible. I know, kinda granny-car, but the price was decent and... CONVERTIBLE!

...

I'll take some better (read: closer) ones when I get the chance to wash it. It's kinda dirty at the moment. :o
Very nice!

ErikCLDR
Apr 9, 2007, 04:47 PM
Just bought my first car, it's a '96 Chrysler Sebring convertible. I know, kinda granny-car, but the price was decent and... CONVERTIBLE!

I'll take some better (read: closer) ones when I get the chance to wash it. It's kinda dirty at the moment. :o


Personally, I would never buy a sebring if I was an adult. But as a first car thats pretty nice. PlymouthBreezer is aware of my hatred of chrysler. The enormous doors have always bothered me. Michael Scott (from The Office) has one.

Anyways, sweet ride

rickvanr
Apr 9, 2007, 05:02 PM
Just bought my first car, it's a '96 Chrysler Sebring convertible. I know, kinda granny-car, but the price was decent and... CONVERTIBLE!

<snip>

I'll take some better (read: closer) ones when I get the chance to wash it. It's kinda dirty at the moment. :o

Nice first car. Convertibles rock. I had a TJ for a summer and it was simply amazing.

leftfoot
Apr 9, 2007, 05:26 PM
Here's my GTO.

Awesome goat!

Does it have the LS1, or the LS2?

Plymouthbreezer
Apr 9, 2007, 05:28 PM
Personally, I would never buy a sebring if I was an adult. But as a first car thats pretty nice. PlymouthBreezer is aware of my hatred of chrysler. The enormous doors have always bothered me. Michael Scott (from The Office) has one.

Anyways, sweet ride
Michael Scott has a newer model though... Silver.

ErikCLDR
Apr 9, 2007, 05:30 PM
Michael Scott has a newer model though... Silver.

Regardless, I think the point is clear :p

both mine, and the point they are making in the office

killmoms
Apr 9, 2007, 05:31 PM
Michael Scott has a newer model though... Silver.

Yeah, my co-workers were quick to point out the similarity to Michael Scott. So now I'm Secret Agent Michael Scarn. ;) It's okay though, their jabs don't make driving it up the PCH any less fun. :D

RoverMan
Apr 9, 2007, 05:42 PM
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840quadra
Apr 9, 2007, 05:58 PM
[QUOTE=ErikCLDR;3525329]
1) I saw an LR2 at the dealer today there was one on display out front. I didn't go up close to it, but reliability aside I think it could be a good contender against the Lexus RX and Acura RDX.
/QUOTE]

Nice looking..
http://www.neuwerks.com/albums/landrange07/IMG_6854.jpg
picture taken by me :)
But..

I don't think it holds a candle to either of them. I was there when they unveiled it for the US market at NAIAS. I like the exterior much more than the Japanese contenders, but the interior screamed more budget than anything else, and the materials didn't feel or look as nice as the Lexas or Acura.

It is a great effort though, and nice to see Land Rover in this market .

smokeyrabbit
Apr 9, 2007, 06:05 PM
Personally, I find the LR3 & LR2 a little more appropriate for 'compensators' than off-roaders.

I've had a 1994 D90 (posted in this thread a few years ago, I think), 1994 Disco (still have), a 1998 50th Anniv. Range Rover, and a 1969 IIa 88" Bugeye. Anyone who thinks an LR3 is the pinnacle of off-road adventure experience clearly does not do real off-roading. An unmodified D90 is pretty capable, but no one really goes off road, especially out west, without mods.

The Series truck was mostly like driving a tractor while getting hit in the back with a shovel. It was cooler than anything else on the road, of course.

I got rid of the D90 and picked up a diesel F-350 because Land Rover doesn't make a practical farm vehicle for the US. Yes, I know you can "build" a diesel crew cab 110 or 130 and have friends who have done that, but try and fit a 4x8 sheet or 30 bales of hay in the bed of said pickup or tow 15,000 lbs - you can't.

mitreehugger
Apr 9, 2007, 09:26 PM
personally, i thought guys with diesel trucks were probably married to their cousins. :p just kidding.

not my nissan, but exactly the same car. dang i need a digital camera.

darkwing
Apr 9, 2007, 09:51 PM
Awesome goat!

Does it have the LS1, or the LS2?

It's a 2006 with a turbocharger from STS turbo. :cool: Skidded off the road already once in the snow. :D

ErikCLDR
Apr 9, 2007, 10:17 PM
Personally, I find the LR3 & LR2 a little more appropriate for 'compensators' than off-roaders.

I've had a 1994 D90 (posted in this thread a few years ago, I think), 1994 Disco (still have), a 1998 50th Anniv. Range Rover, and a 1969 IIa 88" Bugeye. Anyone who thinks an LR3 is the pinnacle of off-road adventure experience clearly does not do real off-roading. An unmodified D90 is pretty capable, but no one really goes off road, especially out west, without mods.

The Series truck was mostly like driving a tractor while getting hit in the back with a shovel. It was cooler than anything else on the road, of course.

I got rid of the D90 and picked up a diesel F-350 because Land Rover doesn't make a practical farm vehicle for the US. Yes, I know you can "build" a diesel crew cab 110 or 130 and have friends who have done that, but try and fit a 4x8 sheet or 30 bales of hay in the bed of said pickup or tow 15,000 lbs - you can't.

Wow! That is an amazing fleet of vehicles. I love the P38 Rangey, the Defender, and the Series. They are such nice trucks. I'm not exactly fond of your D1's brown color and wheels but they are a blast to drive. Styling wise, I don't think D1's looks that great (even though I have one lol)- the 1997 and 1998 LE and LSE looked a bit better with the wheel change and the different trim and body color bumper end caps on the LSE.

leftfoot
Apr 9, 2007, 10:21 PM
It's a 2006 with a turbocharger from STS turbo. :cool: Skidded off the road already once in the snow. :D

Pushrods FTW

I had a 2000 Corvette with a built LS1 putting out 590hp. I was going to procharge it, but I sold it.

I'm interested in dyno results, if you've taken it there yet.

I love goats. :D

RoverMan
Apr 9, 2007, 10:25 PM
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darkwing
Apr 10, 2007, 10:52 AM
Pushrods FTW

I had a 2000 Corvette with a built LS1 putting out 590hp. I was going to procharge it, but I sold it.

I'm interested in dyno results, if you've taken it there yet.

I love goats. :D

Assuming the car is running as well as the one they put the same kit on I should be making 517 at the wheels. I might be a very lucky guy though... the wastegate reference fell off and I thought my vacuum gauge broke. It's running a bit rich now that things are back together.. so it's possible that I've been making more boost than I thought! I'll know later today when I get on it some more, though.

smokeyrabbit
Apr 10, 2007, 01:12 PM
D1's brown color and wheels

It's Armada Gold - I've only seen one or two others of the same in the states. It has the advantage of matching every color of mud known to man.:D

latergator116
Apr 10, 2007, 04:08 PM
My brother just got an 89 Corolla in near perfect condition for $600. It's spotless on the inside too, the prevoous owner must have taken great care of it. I drove it around the block a few times and it runs great. Now only if he had money for insurance and registartion.:rolleyes:

ErikCLDR
Apr 10, 2007, 04:58 PM
It's Armada Gold - I've only seen one or two others of the same in the states. It has the advantage of matching every color of mud known to man.:D

In all of my searchings of D1's I don't think I even have seen an Armada Gold. I guess thats good, you never have to get a carwash :P.

The first disco I was looking at was Avalon Blue. I really liked that color. I am not a huge fan of the White Gold color of my disco, but I suppose its better than others. My friend calls the color "A shade somewhere between gold and silver". White gold on the DII looks different- its more tan or gold. Mine is more of a true white gold.

darkwing
Apr 10, 2007, 05:33 PM
My brother just got an 89 Corolla in near perfect condition for $600. It's spotless on the inside too, the prevoous owner must have taken great care of it. I drove it around the block a few times and it runs great. Now only if he had money for insurance and registartion.:rolleyes:

I'm going through this. My friend got his MS degree last month and started with my company this week. He has no car, license, or anything. Trying to get him licensed here in UT by the end of the month. (We're both from California.) Since he hasn't been driving he saved his meager wages from his college job for years, so he has enough to get a decent car though. :)

ErikCLDR
Apr 10, 2007, 06:17 PM
If I didn't have any support of my parents, there would be no way I could buy a car, pay for gas, and pay for insurance if I worked all summer at a typical teen job. Even with a car for free there is no way I could afford it even with no other expenses. My insurance must be crazy- 16 year old BOY in CT driving a SUV with very HIGH REPAIR COSTS.

I just bought this for Mr. Rover today
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=6C04E0B8&nplm=TK885LL%2FA (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=6C04E0B8&nplm=TK885LL%2FA)

840quadra
Apr 10, 2007, 07:08 PM
If I didn't have any support of my parents, there would be no way I could buy a car, pay for gas, and pay for insurance if I worked all summer at a typical teen job. Even with a car for free there is no way I could afford it even with no other expenses. My insurance must be crazy- 16 year old BOY in CT driving a SUV with very HIGH REPAIR COSTS.


It is good that you appreciate what your parents do for you. Many people (some on here) don't!.

That being said, I fail to understand parents that buy cars like yours, then complain about the cost of keeping their kid on the road (this is not directed at you or your family, just some people I know).

If you are going to buy a car for your kid and want it to be less of a dent in your pocket book, don't buy them a truck, SUV, or anything that would be classified as a "premium brand" (including cars). That is why there are cars like Cavaliers, Sentras, Accents, and Escorts.


Back on Topic
http://www.neuwerks.com/albums/album33/IMG_7209.sized.jpg

My 1981 Volkswagen Scirocco s
For Sale ;)

ErikCLDR
Apr 10, 2007, 08:02 PM
It is good that you appreciate what your parents do for you. Many people (some on here) don't!.

That being said, I fail to understand parents that buy cars like yours, then complain about the cost of keeping their kid on the road (this is not directed at you or your family, just some people I know).

If you are going to buy a car for your kid and want it to be less of a dent in your pocket book, don't buy them a truck, SUV, or anything that would be classified as a "premium brand" (including cars). That is why there are cars like Cavaliers, Sentras, Accents, and Escorts.

<snip>

981 Volkswagen Scirocco s
For Sale ;)

Well my parents have owned 3 LR's so they kinda know what they are in terms of reliability. I know this isn't directed towards me or my family, but my parents don't seem to care about the cost of my insurance, other than that my sister costs much less to insure because she is a girl.

latergator116
Apr 10, 2007, 09:13 PM
It is good that you appreciate what your parents do for you. Many people (some on here) don't!.

That being said, I fail to understand parents that buy cars like yours, then complain about the cost of keeping their kid on the road (this is not directed at you or your family, just some people I know)...)

That's an awesome car! If I lived closed to you, I'd deffinately consider buying that. For me, the smaller, older, higher gas mileage, the better...... oh, and reliable too. :D

latergator116
Apr 10, 2007, 09:17 PM
I'm going through this. My friend got his MS degree last month and started with my company this week. He has no car, license, or anything. Trying to get him licensed here in UT by the end of the month. (We're both from California.) Since he hasn't been driving he saved his meager wages from his college job for years, so he has enough to get a decent car though. :)

I actaully don't have my licene either. Here you have to take dirvers ed if you're under 18, but I've just been putting it off for so long. I turn 18 in July, so I'll just get my license then. I'm hoping to maybe go on a road trip this summer with my brother in his Corolla... we'll see how that turns out. ;)

Coolnat2004
Apr 13, 2007, 09:44 PM
If I didn't have any support of my parents, there would be no way I could buy a car, pay for gas, and pay for insurance if I worked all summer at a typical teen job. Even with a car for free there is no way I could afford it even with no other expenses. My insurance must be crazy- 16 year old BOY in CT driving a SUV with very HIGH REPAIR COSTS.

I just bought this for Mr. Rover today
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=6C04E0B8&nplm=TK885LL%2FA

You could pay for it, but it would be tight. I'm 17 and I pay insurance, gas, maintenance, etc. The only cost that my mom paid for was the purchase of the car and the registration fees. The rest is all me. I manage to get by, even with an insurance bill of about $150 a month.

By the way, that FM transmitter is super overpriced. I got my iPod interface (direct cable to the CD changer port) for less than that, and I considered even that to be expensive just to listen to my iPod in the car.

ErikCLDR
Apr 14, 2007, 12:43 PM
You could pay for it, but it would be tight. I'm 17 and I pay insurance, gas, maintenance, etc. The only cost that my mom paid for was the purchase of the car and the registration fees. The rest is all me. I manage to get by, even with an insurance bill of about $150 a month.

By the way, that FM transmitter is super overpriced. I got my iPod interface (direct cable to the CD changer port) for less than that, and I considered even that to be expensive just to listen to my iPod in the car.

I looked into other options but the FM transmitter is really the only viable option. The tape adapter is rejected by the head unit, there is no aux input on the head unit or on the back of it, and there is no CD changer port interface connector for the discovery 1's (1999-1998/9 models, only for discovery II's 1999-2004). If I wanted to spend some time and risk screwing something up, I could splice the audio wires from the CD changer and wire it up to my ipod.

I don't have a job, so my monthly income is not really existent. During school my parents would rather have me focus on academics and sports than making minimum wage.

Chrismcfall
Apr 14, 2007, 01:07 PM
But..

Reminds me a bit of the Range Stormer concept.
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Range_Stormer_rear.jpg
Which then turned into the RR Sport.
A Classic Clarkson quote about that car:
"You can't have this car with a diesel engine. It'd be like saying, 'Well, I won't go to Stringfellows tonight, I'll get my mum to give me a lap dance, she's a woman!' Yeah, but..."

ErikCLDR
Apr 14, 2007, 01:48 PM
Ok I have a question for you rover guys here...

How hard should it be to engage to the CDL? I have a dirt road to drive on, and I go like 5mph and try to engage it, but it just will not engage. I feel like its about to shift over, but it just won't budge past a certain point. Am I doing something wrong?? Do you have to pull back and then push over to the left or do I need to push down on the lever.

??

quik
Apr 14, 2007, 01:56 PM
Got new pictures.

http://www.beliveau.ca/mazda/1.jpg

http://www.beliveau.ca/mazda/4.jpg

kildraik
Apr 14, 2007, 03:40 PM
The enormous doors have always bothered me. Michael Scott (from The Office) has one.

Yeah, my mom owns a '06 Sebring Conv. Touring... Silver with a black top.

The doors do drive me insane, and I don't like the general feel of the car... Our '99 Breeze is more fun to drive.

I like to drive our black '07 Tundra Crewmax Limited 5.7L. =]

I absolutely despise our '05 Trailblazer LT EXT. Ugh.

Ill Mitch
Apr 14, 2007, 04:52 PM
Here's my car :)

06 custom butted Fuji track frame, vintage Campagnolo Record hubs laced to Ambrosio Mr. Martin rims with DT spokes, Campagnolo Record headset, 3ttt pista bars and stem, stock crankset will be the next upgrade.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/384398253_49e0a24c9c_b.jpg

macquariumguy
Apr 14, 2007, 08:31 PM
Here's my car :)

06 custom butted Fuji track frame, vintage Campagnolo Record hubs laced to Ambrosio Mr. Martin rims with DT spokes, Campagnolo Record headset, 3ttt pista bars and stem, stock crankset will be the next upgrade.

I would put some baseball cards in the spokes, but otherwise it is perfect!

:)

quagmire
Apr 14, 2007, 08:46 PM
I like to drive our black '07 Tundra Crewmax Limited 5.7L. =]

Wow! You must of just bought it recently. The Crew Max's just came out like 2 weeks ago. BTW, the Tundra sucks. ;) Nah, it is a good truck. Although I would only buy it for the powertrain. Everything else about it turns me off.

redeye be
Apr 15, 2007, 06:38 AM
Here's my car :)

Very nice!

I've got a friend who's totally in to fixed gear, I do prefer myself some gears and especially brakes though ;)

d_and_n5000
Apr 15, 2007, 09:50 AM
Nothing too special here...

2001 Alero, top of the line, we do love her. Plus, with only 40000 miles, she'll be around for quite a while:).
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/459924770_4b670d942b.jpg?v=0

Rear of same...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/253/459924766_9af08628a6.jpg?v=0

Now here's our interesting beast. I don't think I've ever seen another first-gen Honda Odyssey in this color anywhere except my driveway. She's a 1997, with 140,000 miles on her.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/459386303_61e82547da.jpg?v=0

The rear of the Honda.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/459386311_d7885b38b3.jpg?v=0

And yes, the two cars were photographed on different days:rolleyes: Note the Apple logos, center of the bottom of the rear windshield on the Alero, bottom left corner on the Honda.

ryannel2003
Apr 15, 2007, 05:30 PM
Recent picture of my 2000 Toyota Camry LE:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/IMG_2849.jpg

Yeah it isn't the best looking car on the planet, but it gets 25MPG and is fully loaded (and only has 53k). Haha... :)

FadeToBlack
Apr 16, 2007, 08:03 PM
Recent picture of my 2000 Toyota Camry LE:

<snip photo>

Yeah it isn't the best looking car on the planet, but it gets 25MPG and is fully loaded (and only has 53k). Haha... :)

Nice Camry, man! Love the color combo.

iowamensan
Apr 17, 2007, 07:19 PM
My Rav4 and my wife's Corolla:
http://www.dv8ion.com/P3180002.jpg

ryannel2003
Apr 17, 2007, 07:38 PM
My Rav4 and my wife's Corolla:
<snip photo>

I love the new RAV4's. My friend has one and its awesome :)

puckhead193
Apr 17, 2007, 07:41 PM
the new addition to the family -- lexus LS 460 :D

iowamensan
Apr 17, 2007, 07:44 PM
the new addition to the family -- lexus LS 460 :D

That thing is sweet!

puckhead193
Apr 18, 2007, 10:50 AM
That thing is sweet!

thanks, its such a smooth car, and is a big improvement over her past LS 400

Chrismcfall
Apr 20, 2007, 01:38 PM
Here's my new baby.

Sold the Altima, and traded in the Vette'.

2007 Audi RS4, pictures taken at the dealership when I bought it :D




I think someone has stole two of your pictures for Wikipeida.

ryannel2003
Apr 20, 2007, 03:48 PM
Nice Camry, man! Love the color combo.

Thanks! I love the car to death, and it still drives like the car did when it was new. The best part about it is how clean it is still. My grandma kept the car in excellent condition, and I still do the same. :)

cheekyspanky
Apr 20, 2007, 05:27 PM
I think someone has stole two of your pictures for Wikipeida.

Yup looks like it..!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Audi-RS4.jpg

Still really like the look of it although that Lexus above looks pretty good too, nice alloys.

FadeToBlack
Apr 21, 2007, 12:47 AM
Thanks! I love the car to death, and it still drives like the car did when it was new. The best part about it is how clean it is still. My grandma kept the car in excellent condition, and I still do the same. :)

Yeah, it looks brand new in the pic. Toyota makes great cars. I actually almost bought a Camry last year when I sold my Cavalier. It was like a '94 model, though. XLE. Fully loaded. It was an awesome car, but it had like 144k on it and they still wanted like $4000 or something. Probably a fair price, but I didn't want to spend that much for a car with high mileage. Being a Toyota and all, I'm sure it had quite a bit of life left in it. I guess I'm just a bit paranoid. :cool:

Clarence
Apr 21, 2007, 12:40 PM
Winter: 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 - 22" Dip Wheels - Shaved badges

http://web.mac.com/edshults/iWeb/Site/Toys.._files/IMG_0184.jpg

Summer: 1999 BMW 740il - 20" BMW M-Parallels

http://web.mac.com/edshults/iWeb/Site/Toys.._files/DSC00662.jpg

mfacey
Apr 21, 2007, 12:59 PM
Winter: 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 - 22" Dip Wheels - Shaved badges



Summer: 1999 BMW 740il - 20" BMW M-Parallels



What are shaved badges? I'd have to guess that those tires are pretty useless in the winter, that is assuming you live in an area with snow! :D

The beemer is awesome. I really do prefer that generation 7-series to the current one.

Clarence
Apr 21, 2007, 01:27 PM
What are shaved badges? I'd have to guess that those tires are pretty useless in the winter, that is assuming you live in an area with snow! :D

The beemer is awesome. I really do prefer that generation 7-series to the current one.

Thanks for the complements. Shaved badges refers to the "Trail Rated" and "4x4" designations on the exterior. I removed them all, I prefer a cleaner look. I also tinted the front windows, and installed true HID lighting and a 10 inch subwoofer. It is my daily driver. Bling!:D

I live in Michigan, and only run the BMW when the sun is shining and never in rain or snow. It has 58,000 miles, which is low for an 8 year old car. The jeep's wheels come off in the fall, and go back on in the spring. Road salt would pit the chrome in an instant.:eek:

the kid 05
Apr 21, 2007, 11:46 PM
Winter: 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 - 22" Dip Wheels - Shaved badges

http://web.mac.com/edshults/iWeb/Site/Toys.._files/IMG_0184.jpg


nice G.C., the rims are nice, what do you have? 2 or 3 inch profile? you thought about shaving the handles too?

Clarence
Apr 21, 2007, 11:58 PM
nice G.C., the rims are nice, what do you have? 2 or 3 inch profile? you thought about shaving the handles too?

are you asking what the tire size is?

265/40/r22

rides great, much improved handling as well. pretty tight for what it is, and the autostick makes it fun to drive

as far as extensive mods, the only other thing I would consider would be taking a notch or two out of the suspension if possible. I dont really want to mess with the ride or start wearing out tires though..

I tried to keep it as stock as possible for resale value. I kept all the badges, headlights, etc... so it will go right back to normal.

ryannel2003
Apr 22, 2007, 08:03 AM
Yeah, it looks brand new in the pic. Toyota makes great cars. I actually almost bought a Camry last year when I sold my Cavalier. It was like a '94 model, though. XLE. Fully loaded. It was an awesome car, but it had like 144k on it and they still wanted like $4000 or something. Probably a fair price, but I didn't want to spend that much for a car with high mileage. Being a Toyota and all, I'm sure it had quite a bit of life left in it. I guess I'm just a bit paranoid. :cool:

Oh yeah the Camry is one of the best cars they have to offer. Alot of people around my area have them, which makes it hard for my car to stand out but with the two tone Super White/Oak it does a little bit. But yeah the only thing wrong with the paint is the fact that it's scratched and chipped :(

quagmire
Apr 22, 2007, 08:37 AM
The Supra was the best car Toyota had to offer, but they killed it. They're already making gas guzzling trucks and SUV's, I think a sports car can fit in their lineup. Especially since the environmental groups aren't targeting cars like the Mustang, Corvette, a Lambo, etc. So I don't know why Toyota is so against making a sports car. The Supra would be the only Toyota I would consider buying. I hope they are developing a new Supra. But, until then they are making cars that are bland or ugly, but that is IMHO since styling is subjective.

ryannel2003
Apr 22, 2007, 07:01 PM
The Supra was the best car Toyota had to offer, but they killed it. They're already making gas guzzling trucks and SUV's, I think a sports car can fit in their lineup. Especially since the environmental groups aren't targeting cars like the Mustang, Corvette, a Lambo, etc. So I don't know why Toyota is so against making a sports car. The Supra would be the only Toyota I would consider buying. I hope they are developing a new Supra. But, until then they are making cars that are bland or ugly, but that is IMHO since styling is subjective.

Yeah I agree that the Supra was an awesome car! Once they killed off the Celica and the MR2 Spyder, there is nothing sporty left in the lineup. I guess Toyota thinks that the Camry SE will serve all of the buyers wanting a real sports car. That my friend, is a joke.

ErikCLDR
Apr 22, 2007, 07:08 PM
My other Rover:

I picked it up in Ireland for a nice 7.95 Euro.

quagmire
Apr 22, 2007, 11:45 PM
Yeah I agree that the Supra was an awesome car! Once they killed off the Celica and the MR2 Spyder, there is nothing sporty left in the lineup. I guess Toyota thinks that the Camry SE will serve all of the buyers wanting a real sports car. That my friend, is a joke.

FWD and performance does not compute. Warning warning overload. :) The Camry with the 268 HP 3.5 V6 does 0-60 in an impressive 5.8 seconds( C&D) and the Aura XR with the 252 HP 3.6 V6 does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds(R&T). Which probably can be contributed to the 251 lb of torque at 3200 RPM compared to the 248 lb of torque at 4700 RPM of the Camry's 3.5 V6. That is the Aura's only advantage over the Camry is the torque. Anyway...... as I said FWD and performance does not go together. RWD or AWD is the best for the best performance possible. If Toyota wants to be #1 and appeal to ALL buyers they need a RWD vehicle that is not a Lexus.

bartelby
Apr 22, 2007, 11:51 PM
FWD and performance does not compute. Warning warning overload. :)

You don't know about the Alfa GTAs then...

poppe
Apr 23, 2007, 04:09 AM
FWD and performance does not compute. Warning warning overload. :) The Camry with the 268 HP 3.5 V6 does 0-60 in an impressive 5.8 seconds( C&D) and the Aura XR with the 252 HP 3.6 V6 does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds(R&T). Which probably can be contributed to the 251 lb of torque at 3200 RPM compared to the 248 lb of torque at 4700 RPM of the Camry's 3.5 V6. That is the Aura's only advantage over the Camry is the torque. Anyway...... as I said FWD and performance does not go together. RWD or AWD is the best for the best performance possible. If Toyota wants to be #1 and appeal to ALL buyers they need a RWD vehicle that is not a Lexus.

And a Manual car how about (speaking about lexus more so but still toyota) I will never buy a Toyota or a Lexus no matter how nice they are and every year they are getting better and better until they come out with a rear wheel drive MANUAL (you hear my Lexus IS 300); no stupid paddle shift crap. Now that I think about it I probably wouldn't get one still until they came out with a two door car as well.

Note: I am talking about a sports car, not a lexus luxry car, the hard top convertible one...

SpookTheHamster
Apr 23, 2007, 05:46 AM
FWD and performance does not compute.

Ford Focus RS/ST, VW GTI, Alfa Romeo, Mini Cooper (especially the old ones, any little car that can beat GT cars around a track is performance to me), Vauxhall Astra VXR, I could go on.

FWD doesn't make a car instantly incapable of performing well. A properly sorted FWD car can be a fantastic drive, and even quicker than RWD in a few situations.

killr_b
Apr 23, 2007, 06:11 AM
I have posted in this thread before, but i got out with some friends the other weekend with the cameras specifically to take pictures of the car

hope you like cos im well pleased with them :D


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/philgr/lakes%20photoshoot/lakes5.jpg

Holy crap dude! How does it feel to be like James Bond? :p

SpookTheHamster
Apr 23, 2007, 06:13 AM
Sold my old car a little while ago. Didn't have any time to fix it while I was away at uni. 1976 BMW 1502
http://i18.tinypic.com/2u9k13r.jpg

Bought myself a nice boring car. 1995 Ford Escort 1.6 Zetec.
http://i17.tinypic.com/47tv5v5.jpg

wizwaz3
Apr 23, 2007, 11:34 PM
Don't take things sooooo seriously. I am just saying putting giant chrome wheels that don't match the car look silly.


I think it looks awesome. Besides, eye of the beholder...

blackscooby
Apr 24, 2007, 08:23 AM
Ford Focus RS/ST, VW GTI, Alfa Romeo, Mini Cooper (especially the old ones, any little car that can beat GT cars around a track is performance to me), Vauxhall Astra VXR, I could go on.

FWD doesn't make a car instantly incapable of performing well. A properly sorted FWD car can be a fantastic drive, and even quicker than RWD in a few situations.

Exactly, I've got a 1988 Peugeot 205 GTi that I use on the track. Quaife LSD, engine on DTA Engine management with Jenvey Throttle Bodies. Approx 170bhp and weighs just over 800Kgs. The handling is truely brilliant. Out of bends you can just floor the gas and take to the 8k limiter. Now that's a noise to make your spine tingle !!!

My normal road car is a Merc AMG C32. The Merc "feels" slow and unresponsive in comparision until the speeds get high. In the real world I'm sure that the Merc would just pull away, that is until any corners where the Peugeot would simply obliterate it. The lack of weight means you can brake much later and scub off speed, and equally get on the gas sooner coming out of bends. The fwd Pug can keep up with much much more powerful things given it's agility.

Simply being RWD doesn't mean that it's better handling by default !

Clarence
Apr 24, 2007, 09:06 AM
I think it looks awesome. Besides, eye of the beholder...

Thank you wizwaz. I have to get a better pic, that one really leaves alot to be desired.

FJ218700
Apr 24, 2007, 02:01 PM
The jeep's wheels come off in the fall, and go back on in the spring. Road salt would pit the chrome in an instant.:eek:

What combo do you run in the winter?

Clarence
Apr 24, 2007, 03:48 PM
What combo do you run in the winter?

Factory 17's with goodyear rubber.

Here's a pic from today!

http://web.mac.com/edshults/iWeb/Site/Toys.._files/IMG_0636.jpg

AlexH
Apr 24, 2007, 10:20 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/471997183_478c58bb1a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomm/471997183/in/photostream)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/471997187_7569968562.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomm/471997187/in/photostream)

2007 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD.

wizwaz3
Apr 25, 2007, 03:31 PM
the new addition to the family -- lexus LS 460 :D

You wouldn't wanna take a high-res pic of that sexy thing wouldja? :D

puckhead193
Apr 25, 2007, 11:32 PM
You wouldn't wanna take a high-res pic of that sexy thing wouldja? :D

i have a few, if you have a special request, it will have to wait as i'm in skewl.
Are you thinking of getting one?

wizwaz3
Apr 26, 2007, 12:24 AM
i have a few, if you have a special request, it will have to wait as i'm in skewl.
Are you thinking of getting one?

Maybe when I'm old enough to enter into a legal contract. lol I'm only 17. :) I just think the LS 460 is seeeexy! ESPECIALLY in that RED! Yeah, if you have a few cool pics, I'd love em. :D

Super8Guy
Apr 28, 2007, 12:13 PM
1964 Ford
http://1964FordGalaxie.com/
JOHN LONGENECKER California 800 470-4602

koobcamuk
Apr 28, 2007, 12:26 PM
Not a fan of all you people with "SUVs" or whatever you call them over there. Not cool at all. It's ok if you actually go off-road, but then I guess SUV doesn't fit the name...

puckhead193
Apr 28, 2007, 12:51 PM
Maybe when I'm old enough to enter into a legal contract. lol I'm only 17. :) I just think the LS 460 is seeeexy! ESPECIALLY in that RED! Yeah, if you have a few cool pics, I'd love em. :D

PM your email and i'll hook you up

radiantm3
Apr 30, 2007, 02:50 PM
Not a fan of all you people with "SUVs" or whatever you call them over there. Not cool at all. It's ok if you actually go off-road, but then I guess SUV doesn't fit the name...

You'd love America. The roads are infested with them like a disease. :P A lot of them flying by at 80-85mph in the fast lane while talking on the cell phone. I don't know what the laws are now, but for awhile, you could get huge tax write offs for buying really big SUVs if you stated that 50% of the time it was used for private business. I think this is what really led to so many SUVs in america. Now it's become more of a fad. I never really understood why people actually enjoy driving them on paved roads.

TequilaBoobs
Apr 30, 2007, 02:59 PM
You'd love America. The roads are infested with them like a disease. :P A lot of them flying by at 80-85mph in the fast lane while talking on the cell phone. I don't know what the laws are now, but for awhile, you could get huge tax write offs for buying really big SUVs if you stated that 50% of the time it was used for private business. I think this is what really led to so many SUVs in america. Now it's become more of a fad. I never really understood why people actually enjoy driving them on paved roads.

from my brief time behind a range rover, i must say the view is a lot nicer up high (rather than my bumper view in my TSX). im sure if europe had cheaper gas prices, bigger and less windy roads, and modern infrastructure, suv's would thrive as well.

in japan, vans are really popular amongst the kids. they like to pimp their astro vans like west coast customs.

ErikCLDR
Apr 30, 2007, 04:11 PM
from my brief time behind a range rover, i must say the view is a lot nicer up high (rather than my bumper view in my TSX). im sure if europe had cheaper gas prices, bigger and less windy roads, and modern infrastructure, suv's would thrive as well.

in japan, vans are really popular amongst the kids. they like to pimp their astro vans like west coast customs.

Hahaha Land Rovers for life!

--
I don't think its a valid argument to say SUV's are bad because SOME people drive 85mph on with their cell phones.

I could generalize that Honda Civics and Jettas and other small foreign cars are bad because they race on the highway.

radiantm3
May 1, 2007, 03:57 AM
Hahaha Land Rovers for life!

--
I don't think its a valid argument to say SUV's are bad because SOME people drive 85mph on with their cell phones.

I could generalize that Honda Civics and Jettas and other small foreign cars are bad because they race on the highway.

I wasn't trying to make an argument based on that. It was just a statement that happened to be in the same paragraph. :) I'm not saying SUVs are inherently bad. If you need one for purposes that a regular car doesn't provide, then that's great. But that's not the case for 80% of them on the road in the US. Most SUVs in America aren't even built to drive off road. It's the whole "bigger is better" mentality for the most part. I think land rovers are very purposeful vehicles. A Cadillac Escalade with 24" rims is not.

mfacey
May 1, 2007, 04:00 AM
I don't see what all the fuss is about SUVs. Sure they're gas guzzlers but so is a Ford Mustang with a 5.0 V8 engine. Nobody ever complains about that. And yes SUVs are big, but so is a mini-van or something like an Audi A6 Avant. What's the big deal?:confused:

ErikCLDR
May 1, 2007, 06:26 PM
I wasn't trying to make an argument based on that. It was just a statement that happened to be in the same paragraph. :) I'm not saying SUVs are inherently bad. If you need one for purposes that a regular car doesn't provide, then that's great. But that's not the case for 80% of them on the road in the US. Most SUVs in America aren't even built to drive off road. It's the whole "bigger is better" mentality for the most part. I think land rovers are very purposeful vehicles. A Cadillac Escalade with 24" rims is not.

Amen. I especially hate esclades. I see absolutely no beauty in them anywhere. They're obnoxious outside and cheap and plasticy inside.

Although most Land Rovers sold these days are not taken off road, in about 10-15 years ones that are still on the road probably will be.
---

Aa mustang is hardly hardly a functional car. You can't put anything in it. You can't tow anything. You can fit 2 people comfortably. You can't drive it in the snow (unless you want to risk getting stuck and/or your life).

AlexH
May 2, 2007, 06:24 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about SUVs. Sure they're gas guzzlers but so is a Ford Mustang with a 5.0 V8 engine. Nobody ever complains about that. And yes SUVs are big, but so is a mini-van or something like an Audi A6 Avant. What's the big deal?:confused:
I don't know... Maybe they are big, easy targets.

It's always funny how people will say that SUVs are the devil, unless you take it off road, then it's somehow tolerable. Like romping in the mud (which probably harms the environment quite a lot) while guzzling the gas is ok, but you better not take that big ol SUV on the pavement!

For the record, I do take my 4Runner out on the trails, get it good and muddy. So I guess I'm "safe". :rolleyes: