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wrldwzrd89
Apr 29, 2011, 02:36 PM
It sure looks like that's the route I'm taking... even though I'm a paid Apple Developer now, I think I'll just wait until Lion comes preinstalled on an iMac (i.e. not on one of those silly upgrade-only drop-in DVDs). The way things are looking right now, it seems that won't happen until 2012. (I have a Rev. D Intel iMac right now.) I am just fine with waiting until then... even going so far as to not upgrade to Lion when it's released to the general public. :o



iLucas
Apr 29, 2011, 02:38 PM
I plan to purchase a MBA for college in August of this year and i'm hoping that it will have Lion already installed on it.

jayhawk11
Apr 29, 2011, 03:12 PM
It sure looks like that's the route I'm taking... even though I'm a paid Apple Developer now, I think I'll just wait until Lion comes preinstalled on an iMac (i.e. not on one of those silly upgrade-only drop-in DVDs). The way things are looking right now, it seems that won't happen until 2012. (I have a Rev. D Intel iMac right now.) I am just fine with waiting until then... even going so far as to not upgrade to Lion when it's released to the general public. :o

You realize that those "upgrade-only" discs are full install copies, right? I'd much rather get it with the drop in kit. It allows me to downgrade back to a previous OS if necessary.

wrldwzrd89
Apr 29, 2011, 03:31 PM
You realize that those "upgrade-only" discs are full install copies, right? I'd much rather get it with the drop in kit. It allows me to downgrade back to a previous OS if necessary.
What makes you think this? In the past Apple hasn't distributed "full install" copies with new Macs for the case when a new Mac OS version comes out before new Macs come out to take full advantage of it. The discs Apple drops in with existing Macs in this scenario are upgrade-only, at least that's what Apple usually does.

LoganT
Apr 29, 2011, 04:36 PM
What makes you think this? In the past Apple hasn't distributed "full install" copies with new Macs for the case when a new Mac OS version comes out before new Macs come out to take full advantage of it. The discs Apple drops in with existing Macs in this scenario are upgrade-only, at least that's what Apple usually does.

Yes, they are supposed to be upgrade disks. However, there is nothing stopping you from going into Disk Utility and wiping the drive and installing it as new. When Snow Leopard came out for 29 dollars, it was possible to wipe the drive and install Snow Leopard without having Leopard installed first.

wrldwzrd89
Apr 29, 2011, 04:42 PM
Yes, they are supposed to be upgrade disks. However, there is nothing stopping you from going into Disk Utility and wiping the drive and installing it as new. When Snow Leopard came out for 29 dollars, it was possible to wipe the drive and install Snow Leopard without having Leopard installed first.
Sigh... you're right but we're not talking about the same thing. Those Snow Leopard discs were retail DVDs, which have always been a full install. I'm not referring to those.

LoganT
Apr 29, 2011, 05:21 PM
Sigh... you're right but we're not talking about the same thing. Those Snow Leopard discs were retail DVDs, which have always been a full install. I'm not referring to those.


When you put the drop-in upgrade disc, does it allow you to go into disk utility and wipe your HD, thus being able to use the upgrade disk as a retail disk?

Nermal
Apr 29, 2011, 05:37 PM
The drop-ins, as far as I'm aware, will only install onto a drive that already contains the previous version. I don't know whether you can wipe the drive once it's "validated" or whether you're forced to do an upgrade.

wrldwzrd89
Apr 29, 2011, 05:44 PM
The drop-ins, as far as I'm aware, will only install onto a drive that already contains the previous version. I don't know whether you can wipe the drive once it's "validated" or whether you're forced to do an upgrade.
Thanks Nermal - I only know that these drop-ins exist as I've never gotten a Mac that had one.

Nermal
Apr 29, 2011, 05:49 PM
Thanks Nermal - I only know that these drop-ins exist as I've never gotten a Mac that had one.

I've never had one either, I'm just going by the information that I've seen in the past.

BigBeast
Apr 29, 2011, 05:56 PM
My 2007 MBP (may he RIP) had OS X Tiger factory installed. When I upgraded to Leopard, I bought the $129 retail copy and used disk utility to wipe my drive clean and install Leopard fresh. This is how Mac OS install discs work- not like Windows and their shi**y 8 different retail versions. For most people, upgrading their OS is the easiest route. However, if you should choose, you can still do a full install of the OS from the same disc.

Nermal
Apr 29, 2011, 05:58 PM
We're not talking about retail copies though; drop-ins are completely different beasts.

kevin2i
Apr 30, 2011, 07:59 AM
We're not talking about retail copies though; drop-ins are completely different beasts.

Do Drop In disks really exist? Or are you guys making this up. Seems silly to have a disk you can't install on a new partition ( or new HD or SSD).

Cougarcat
Apr 30, 2011, 09:42 AM
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Yes, they exist. You can do erase and installs, but the hard drive must have the previous OS installed.

altecXP
Apr 30, 2011, 12:03 PM
My 2007 MBP (may he RIP) had OS X Tiger factory installed. When I upgraded to Leopard, I bought the $129 retail copy and used disk utility to wipe my drive clean and install Leopard fresh. This is how Mac OS install discs work- not like Windows and their shi**y 8 different retail versions. For most people, upgrading their OS is the easiest route. However, if you should choose, you can still do a full install of the OS from the same disc.

You can do that in Windows also. You can also make a Windows DVD install any version you want.

tenshin5426
May 1, 2011, 05:42 AM
hoping they all come shipped with preinstalled not the upgrade discs itb like they did with recent releases such as ilife 11 so on, although i recently brought a new one, my wifes due a hand me down, so when lion is released i should be looking to get another 13 :)