iTunes 3.0.1

[arn]

iTunes 3.0.1 is now in your software update control panel:

iTunes 3.0.1 includes a number of performance enhancements to iTunes 3.0, and provides improved support for Mac OS X version 10.2.

[a_kim]

Still no AAC (mpg4 audio) support. Oh well.

What exactly is different? Anyone know?

[bidge]

Alredy crashed on me when I was copying and pasting an artist into the composer and I don't even know what it fixes yet.

[beez7777]

hmm. i dont see anything different about it. Oh well, an update's an update.:rolleyes:

[RBMaraman]

I was hoping they would change the ugly purple icon. Hopefully they will in iTunes 4. I really don't know what they did to it.

[sweetaction]

10.2.1 is available for download now also

[jelloshotsrule]

yeah, just about to mention 10.2.1 myself.... time to install and restart. updates are always good.

[bidge]

10.2.1 won't download now, and the Knowledge base article isn't there either

[beez7777]

where is the 10.2.1 download available??

edit: oops. i checked software update an hour ago, wasn't there, but its installing now

[j763]

apple... give us mpeg4aac!!!!! :mad:

i guess we'll just have to wait :(

[eyelikeart]

whatever...I got it...still runs fine... :D

[vixapphire]

does anyone know how/if apple osx supports 5.1 surround? i.e. if i wanna listen to a cd that's been mixed in surround, or watch a DVD movie on my 1GHz powerbook or on my power mac (neither of which i have yet - but a guy can dream, after all...), how would i get the full 5.1 sound out of the mac, or do i need a 3d party audio interface or card to do this?

sorry for being mildly off-topic with this one...

[saabmp3]

Well I found something new with iTunes 3.01. When you type something into the search field it gives you an option of deleting it all by clicking the little x that appears in the field. Actually, I think this is a really cool feature because I use the search alot to search for multiple words. Not too shabby.

BEN

[Timothy]

I've noticed one partial fix...

I run dual monitors, and the visuals from iTunes wasn't working on the 2nd monitor. It now does work on the 2nd monitor, but it doesn't "fill" the monitor. Maybe it's my monitor...

I'd love to be able to run iTunes visuals on one monitor while working on the other monitor. As it is now, it blacks out both screens when I go into visuals.

[daytona63]

When going to fullscreen mode in iTunes 2, the screen would smoothly transition to fullscreen using a fadeout, but in iTunes 3.0, it was abrupt and not classy (at least on my machine). With iTunes 3.0.1, it's back to normal and looks great. It's the small things...

[RogueLdr]

It seems that iTunes 3.0.1 has kept my framerate more consistently around 28fps on my 400MHz PowerMac in full screen/large mode. Whether this is due to 10.2.1 (I installed at the same time) or not, I can't definitively say. In any case, the change is appreciated.

RL

[juniormaj]

Originally posted by vixapphire
does anyone know how/if apple osx supports 5.1 surround? i.e. if i wanna listen to a cd that's been mixed in surround, or watch a DVD movie on my 1GHz powerbook or on my power mac (neither of which i have yet - but a guy can dream, after all...), how would i get the full 5.1 sound out of the mac, or do i need a 3d party audio interface or card to do this?

sorry for being mildly off-topic with this one...

There is a thread about DD 5.1 in OSX and the M-Audio Sonica here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=11158)

-Jr

[peterj1967]

How can there not be AAC support?????

[scem0]

Originally posted by peterj1967
How can there not be AAC support?????

I was wondering the same thing.... Not to mention an AAC converter. I want to convert all my mp3's to AAC's to clear up some HD space. Even if I am only using 12 Gigs. I guess we will just have to wait.

[Edge100]

iTunes 3.0.1 now supports "Use OpenGL" for visuals on my iMac G3 600. Previously, checking this box would have no effect. A nice addition.

[theaz]

Originally posted by scem0


I was wondering the same thing.... Not to mention an AAC converter. I want to convert all my mp3's to AAC's to clear up some HD space. Even if I am only using 12 Gigs. I guess we will just have to wait.

There is AAC support. I use AAC with 3.0.0. The thing is that
(1) there is no intrinsic converter built in yet. from what i have been told this is a bit of a task to do since iTunes was built around the mp3 model. however there are utilities available that get quicktime pro to do the job just fine.

(2) when playing an song encoded with AAC specs, performing other processor intensive tasks would make the song glitch when using 10.1.5 and 3.0.0. Maybe this has been fixed: I have not had time to check.

scem0: After checking the matter out with various AAC buffs, I have been told that one should never, repeat never, re-encode and mp3 to this format. This is becuase both are very lossy. AAC and mp3 work on different data models. By using complex audio models based on constructive and destructive interferrance, both systems are able to produce sounds that sound nice to us. however, what happens is that mp3 is certain to remove parts of the mp3 required by the aac model to produce an equivalent nice sound. To give a quick analogy as i understand it:

mp3 might produce an output sound 5 by adding components 1 and 4
aac might produce an output of 5 by adding 2 and 3

mp3 encoders may think that values of 2 and 3 are redundant cause they are not required in their data model (that only requires 1 and 4). the aac format will therefore be unable to reproduce the sound accurately cause the 2 and 3 that it requires have been stripped from the sound file

Hope this is of help and not too complicated....

[reyesmac]

I forgot I am running iTunes on a Mac that is less than the minimum requirement. I guess thats why seems the visuals stink in the OS X version.

When I went to Fry's they had the 23inch monitor there and it was hooked up to a dual 867 Powermac. I set the visual to run in the iTunes window at maximum size. I then spread the window to cover most of the 23 inches of the screen. I guess it needs more ram or a better video card because it slowed down and everything became a bit slower. It was not enough to make me think the Mac was crap, but it did show me that this program requires one very fast mac to be able to do everything you want with it with no slowdowns. There don't seem to be many cool applications nowadays that you can use that your mac is too powerfull to be slowed down by it. Yeah you can use it just fine for most things, but even with new gear, the program is so demanding on some things that you could slow OS X down. I guess Quartz extreme needs the ATI9000 or the Gforce Ti to stop things like this from happening.

[dynamicd]

Not sure if this is true, but after I installed the update i think it might import the songs at a fast speed.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by reyesmac
I forgot I am running iTunes on a Mac that is less than the minimum requirement. I guess thats why seems the visuals stink in the OS X version.

When I went to Fry's they had the 23inch monitor there and it was hooked up to a dual 867 Powermac. I set the visual to run in the iTunes window at maximum size. I then spread the window to cover most of the 23 inches of the screen. I guess it needs more ram or a better video card because it slowed down and everything became a bit slower. It was not enough to make me think the Mac was crap, but it did show me that this program requires one very fast mac to be able to do everything you want with it with no slowdowns. There don't seem to be many cool applications nowadays that you can use that your mac is too powerfull to be slowed down by it. Yeah you can use it just fine for most things, but even with new gear, the program is so demanding on some things that you could slow OS X down. I guess Quartz extreme needs the ATI9000 or the Gforce Ti to stop things like this from happening.

G4MX tests show that it's faster then the ATI9000. The biggest difference is the advance T&L Engine on the ATI9000 that the G4MX card does not have.

[Telomar]

On the subject of AAC in iTunes I believe you would find decoding it is supported through QT6. Not positive on that one but I have a hunch that's why you can play things in the AAC format.

Don't expect an encoder in iTunes too soon though as it costs money to add. If you want that get a QT6 Pro Key. Don't re-encode mp3s to mp4s though. As has already been pointed out there is no point. You already have the inherent loss from compressing it to mp3 and then you will lose more quality going to mp4. If you have the originals then encode them to mp4 otherwise you are stuck with mp3s.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Telomar
On the subject of AAC in iTunes I believe you would find decoding it is supported through QT6. Not positive on that one but I have a hunch that's why you can play things in the AAC format.

Don't expect an encoder in iTunes too soon though as it costs money to add. If you want that get a QT6 Pro Key. Don't re-encode mp3s to mp4s though. As has already been pointed out there is no point. You already have the inherent loss from compressing it to mp3 and then you will lose more quality going to mp4. If you have the originals then encode them to mp4 otherwise you are stuck with mp3s.


Yes, Quicktime6 Pro will do all your encoding. Also yes, the reason that iTunes can play AAC is that it is iTunes is integrated with Quicktime.

[geeman]

I may be imagining it, but I think there are new Visualizer patterns (or were they in v3.0 and I just wasn't paying attention?):D

[peterj1967]

Originally posted by scem0


I was wondering the same thing.... Not to mention an AAC converter. I want to convert all my mp3's to AAC's to clear up some HD space. Even if I am only using 12 Gigs. I guess we will just have to wait.

To answer my own question, it would only make sense to have AAC encoding in iTunes if the files could play on the iPod. So hopefully it is in the works.

I don't know if it was on this board, but somebody has suggested that Apple may require the purchace of QT Pro to encode AAC in iTunes. I don't know if I'd like that path, but I may be willing to pay for it.

--PJ

[LanceUhLot]

When you turn visuals on but don't go full-screen, there's now a button in the upper-right corner that lets you specify some options ... the frame rade, song info, OpenGL, and faster/rougher display.

I don't remember seeing this in previous versions ... then again, I might have just missed it before.

[job]

Originally posted by LanceUhLot
When you turn visuals on but don't go full-screen, there's now a button in the upper-right corner that lets you specify some options ... the frame rade, song info, OpenGL, and faster/rougher display.

I don't remember seeing this in previous versions ... then again, I might have just missed it before.

It's been there for a while.

It's not new. ;)