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burnside
May 10, 2011, 12:54 PM
I bought the PS AG film for my iPad 2 and got ready for installation. For the life of me, I could not remove all the lint from my screen prior to installation. Every time the screen was bare, some more lint would land on the screen (probably because I have cats). I decided to have Best Buy install it instead...

So the Geek Squad guy charges me $15 for installation. I cringe, but think, hey one time fee then I'm all done and happy. He totally messed up the install. There was so much lint between the film and the screen. He said it was not his problem and more of Power Supports fault. I showed him my iPhone that has a PS film on it with no lint (I installed this at my bro's house out of state). He refunded me back the install fee and said he would put on a Zagg AG film since he literally ruined the PS film I had given him.

The Zagg film was a PoS. It has a rubbery feel and the AG on it makes reading unbearable. Once I got home I tore it off my iPad and wrote to Best Buy corporate office. They were nice enough to send me a $30 gift card for my trouble.

So now I'm back to square one. I'd like to still get a PS AG film on the iPad, but have no idea where to go so that it is installed properly with no lint. Any ideas? Anyone in the Portland, OR area where I can take this to?



Pballer110
May 10, 2011, 01:21 PM
Did you try the hot shower method to have the lint settle?

burnside
May 10, 2011, 01:26 PM
No I haven't. Sounds like an idea though. I might do a test run tonight and see how long it takes for lint to start landing on the screen again.

Lindalou
May 10, 2011, 01:38 PM
I did a wet install, went on flawlessly, not one piece of lint or bubbles. First time ever applying a protector and it took 10 minutes. Beginners luck, maybe?

I cleaned screen first with just water and micro cloth, sprayed water on the screen and peeled a few inches of protective backing on PS, sprayed that with water. Centered PS around on/off button, held down with one hand and pulled the rest of the backing off. Since there was water, I was able to move PS around til it was perfectly centered. Took credit card with micro cloth wrapped around and started from center pressing out excess water and it was perfection!

There are a couple of youtube videos floating around about wet installs.

good luck!

burnside
May 10, 2011, 01:55 PM
I'm not too worried about applying the film, it's more of a case of not having any lint. My house is just a haven for lint.

Chase265
May 10, 2011, 03:48 PM
hot shower method works for me everytime

Xeanor
May 10, 2011, 05:02 PM
Every house is full of dust. Some more than others depending on how often you clean the place, but the hot shower method is the only surefire way to do a dry install. Don't even think of trying without it.

josun
May 10, 2011, 07:49 PM
There's nothing wrong with PS AG films. I've used PS films for years and never had an install problem. It's funny how that guy blamed his lack of skill to the film that everybody loves. :p

I don't like the idea of wasting gallons and gallons of water for such an insignificant thing so I do dry install with scotch tapes which I think is just as effective but faster. If you don't feel comfortable doing the dry install, try the shower method since it's easier.

burnside
May 10, 2011, 08:41 PM
I've installed 3 iPhone PS AG films with little to no problem. They are much easier though compared to the iPad films because of the large surface area which can easily attract lint. The Best Buy crew were idiots. The guy was trying to squeegee out a bubble with lint in it already. I told him stop! That won't work! Of course the damage was done and he bent that area of the film. These guys only know how to install zagg films. A monkey can install one of those.

Anyway, I'll probably buy another PS and try to install it when my wife takes a shower. I couldn't see myself running the water for that long either.

donnaw
May 11, 2011, 02:57 AM
In case you have not yet installed the protector, be sure to have a piece of tape handy (just the kind you wrap presents with is fine). Then if you do get some lint under it you can gently lift the protector and use the tape to get the lint off that way.

It's actually easier than most people make it seem. Line it up and drop it on. The quicker you can do this the lsee likely you will have lint.

TC25
May 11, 2011, 03:31 AM
Anyway, I'll probably buy another PS and try to install it when my wife takes a shower.
If my wife was taking a shower, I certainly would not be sitting in the bathroom installing a screen protector. :p

swishbrade
May 11, 2011, 04:34 AM
If my wife was taking a shower, I certainly would not be sitting in the bathroom installing a screen protector. :p

Haha! Good one. But for couples with years of marriage behind them, I'll bet installing a piece of screen protector wouldn't be the weirdest thing that a husband could be caught doing while the girl's in the shower.

burnside
May 11, 2011, 11:51 AM
If my wife was taking a shower, I certainly would not be sitting in the bathroom installing a screen protector. :p

LOL! We have different work schedules so in the morning I'm the one taking care of our little girl while mommy gets ready for work. I'll just sneak into the bathroom and start with the install. Don't worry, I won't peek. ;)

f1restarter
May 11, 2011, 03:04 PM
Also it will help a lot to have a can of compressed air for those stubborn dust specks. I have a cat too and yes I know how hard it can be to clean the iPad screen but for me the shower was the only option.

ScottJ
May 11, 2011, 04:15 PM
Tip that I got from PowerSupport: if you get a lot of dust and lint on your film, use a lint roller (one that uses minimally tacky tape) to remove the offending particles. I had to do a swap of my iPad 2 recently and in the process of moving the film from the old to the new unit got it seemingly hopelessly contaminated. I called up PS customer service to order a new film and was told that they sometimes resort to the lint roller. In my case, I was able to remove most of the dust and lint from my old AG film, and removed the last few offenders with scotch tape.

The only problem that I ran into was that rolling the lint roller over the film repeatedly seemed to really build up the static charge on the film, so that it was tougher to align the film to the new unit.

burnside
May 16, 2011, 09:59 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I installed the PS AG film on my iPad 2 today, no bubbles, perfect line up. I did the shower trick which did help out, but still had about 5 lint bubbles after the first pass. I then lifted the film with some tape and used some more tape to take the lint off. In the end, it looks great and I couldn't be happier.

Patience and persistence...and a nice steamy room!

gigemzach
May 16, 2011, 10:04 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I installed the PS AG film on my iPad 2 today, no bubbles, perfect line up. I did the shower trick which did help out, but still had about 5 lint bubbles after the first pass. I then lifted the film with some tape and used some more tape to take the lint off. In the end, it looks great and I couldn't be happier.

Patience and persistence...and a nice steamy room!

Congrats.

An0nym0us
May 16, 2011, 10:31 PM
So with the tape trick you just stick the scotch tape under the protector where the lint/dust is and it'll take it off?

burnside
May 16, 2011, 11:24 PM
Yeah, but remember not to stick the entire piece on the film or you'll have problems removing the tape. Just jab the tape on the film. Whenever I did have lint it was always stuck on the film and not the iPad screen.

Remember too not to bend the part of the film you are holding up too much. That can cause a crease in the film. I think if you focus and just be patient you will be fine.

class77
May 17, 2011, 02:43 AM
Using water for an install on an electronic device when it's not necessary?? Makes me shudder to think of all the possible complications

gigemzach
May 17, 2011, 07:15 PM
Using water for an install on an electronic device when it's not necessary?? Makes me shudder to think of all the possible complications

Makes things much easier.

Pballer110
May 17, 2011, 09:32 PM
Using water for an install on an electronic device when it's not necessary?? Makes me shudder to think of all the possible complications

your not submerging the device in water just spraying the water on the film and your suppose to be careful not to let water in to the open ports.

burnside
May 18, 2011, 11:10 AM
I didn't use any water on mine when I installed the film. Dry install. I just needed the steam from the shower to bring down most of the lint flying in the air.

club1820
May 21, 2011, 12:46 AM
anyone have a discount code for this? i've search but havent found any. with shipping comes out to $35. anything to get this a bit lower would help.

Thanks.

gigemzach
May 21, 2011, 12:52 AM
anyone have a discount code for this? i've search but havent found any. with shipping comes out to $35. anything to get this a bit lower would help.

Thanks.

Power support doesn't have coupons :(

club1820
May 21, 2011, 01:41 AM
Power support doesn't have coupons :(

well, that might explain why I can't find one but they have a spot to enter them on their order page:

"Discount Codes and Gift Certificates
Enter your coupon or gift certificate code below and click Apply.
If you have more than one code, please enter each one separately."

class77
May 21, 2011, 02:42 AM
Makes things much easier.

I got a perfect install for a PS AG on both my iPad and my iPad2 with a dry install. They were both easier to install than the Steinheil Crystal on my iPhone. There's no need to use water. They were meant to be installed dry.

xraytech
May 23, 2011, 09:51 AM
Using water for an install on an electronic device when it's not necessary?? Makes me shudder to think of all the possible complications

I always wet install my Power Support overlays, no complications whatsoever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt7QPv0Ee0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

club1820
May 23, 2011, 11:42 PM
I always wet install my Power Support overlays, no complications whatsoever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt7QPv0Ee0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Took a look at your video. You had a couple of large bubbles. Both on the left &right sides. Did they go away?

xraytech
May 24, 2011, 01:24 PM
Took a look at your video. You had a couple of large bubbles. Both on the left &right sides. Did they go away?

Yes they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfRG89EKobs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

gigemzach
May 24, 2011, 03:53 PM
Took a look at your video. You had a couple of large bubbles. Both on the left &right sides. Did they go away?

It can take up to a couple days for all the water to work its way out.

club1820
May 24, 2011, 04:33 PM
Yes they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfRG89EKobs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

wow. looks great! Good for you!

i should be receiving mine any day now.

holyindian
May 24, 2011, 06:29 PM
I too did a wet install last month, and no problems at all.
I used the water and one tiny speck/drop of dishwasher in a hairspray bottle, and sprayed well over the ipad.. no bubbles at all. used a squeegee to remove all small bubbles.

club1820
May 25, 2011, 03:12 PM
So today I got my PS Anti-glare screen and plan on installing that and the BSE back skin tomorrow. :)

Does anyone know if you only get one shot at the dry installation? Meaning, if you completely install it with the dry method and don't like it, - can you remove it completely and re-install? perhaps even re-install using the wet method?

I thought I would give it a shot using the dry method but was wondering if the screen is trashed if you remove it for a second try (whether dry or wet).

thanks!

burnside
May 25, 2011, 03:26 PM
So today I got my PS Anti-glare screen and plan on installing that and the BSE back skin tomorrow. :)

Does anyone know if you only get one shot at the dry installation? Meaning, if you completely install it with the dry method and don't like it, - can you remove it completely and re-install? perhaps even re-install using the wet method?

I thought I would give it a shot using the dry method but was wondering if the screen is trashed if you remove it for a second try (whether dry or wet).

thanks!

Yes, you can reinstall it. I have done reinstalls at a later date successfully. A couple of cautions:

1) Don't bend the film. Use a piece of scotch tape to lift the film without bending it at high angle as seen in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7wncA_Bj-I

2) If there is lint under the film, do not rub a cloth or squeegee in that area. This can cause a dent in the film.

Good luck!

xraytech
May 25, 2011, 03:56 PM
So today I got my PS Anti-glare screen and plan on installing that and the BSE back skin tomorrow. :)

Does anyone know if you only get one shot at the dry installation? Meaning, if you completely install it with the dry method and don't like it, - can you remove it completely and re-install? perhaps even re-install using the wet method?

I thought I would give it a shot using the dry method but was wondering if the screen is trashed if you remove it for a second try (whether dry or wet).

thanks!

Yes, you can reinstall it. I have done reinstalls at a later date successfully. A couple of cautions:

1) Don't bend the film. Use a piece of scotch tape to lift the film without bending it at high angle as seen in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7wncA_Bj-I

2) If there is lint under the film, do not rub a cloth or squeegee in that area. This can cause a dent in the film.

Good luck!

Nothing wrong with the dry method if you line it up on the first try. But if you do end up having to reposition you run the chance of getting dust settling on the screen and screen protector, then you're hosed. Soap and water does the trick, just remember be gentle and remember which side is which. And while your at it, since you had to wash the darn thing, you might as well install it wet.

club1820
May 25, 2011, 04:24 PM
Thanks! I plan on installing in the bathroom full of steam to minimize dust.

And yes, - If I don't get it right the first time with the dry install - I will end up doing it wet. Just figured I'd give it a try dry the first time. The BSE back will of course be a wet install.

Thanks for the good luck wishes. I will report back after install.

gigemzach
May 25, 2011, 04:34 PM
Thanks! I plan on installing in the bathroom full of steam to minimize dust.

And yes, - If I don't get it right the first time with the dry install - I will end up doing it wet. Just figured I'd give it a try dry the first time. The BSE back will of course be a wet install.

Thanks for the good luck wishes. I will report back after install.

Good luck.

AppleOwl
May 26, 2011, 05:55 PM
i just applied mine today. Aligned on perfectly except some bubbling around the home button. I've tried using tape to remove any debris but it still persists. Does it go away with time? Or is this a defective film?

gigemzach
May 26, 2011, 09:37 PM
i just applied mine today. Aligned on perfectly except some bubbling around the home button. I've tried using tape to remove any debris but it still persists. Does it go away with time? Or is this a defective film?

Just get a credit card and try to push them out. If it persists then contact their support.

club1820
May 26, 2011, 11:03 PM
quick post on my screen dry install today. I'll give a more thorough review later.

used the bathroom steam method. seamed to help. minimal lint. removed ALL with tape. minimal bubbles squeezed out All with my fingers. didnt need to use credit card at all.

Overall extremely happy with the process and end result. :)