Were the Seven Dwarfs gay? [Archive]

emw

Mar 15, 2005, 07:35 AM

There are things you read and just shake your head...

Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0503150071mar15,1,460734.story) (you may need a free login).

When Marshall Field's employed a Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs theme for its 2004 holiday festivities, the Chicago-born retailer received some complaints that it was promoting the homosexual lifestyle, an executive said recently.

The concerned citizens divined that there was a "hidden gay agenda" in Field's theme "because seven men were living together," Gregory Clark, vice president of creative services for Field's in Minneapolis, recounted last month at a Retail Advertising & Marketing Association conference in Chicago.

:rolleyes:

iGary

Mar 15, 2005, 07:46 AM

Well considering Spongebob Squarepants and Tinky Winky are gay....

Why hasn't the religious right gone after Bert and Ernie - the took baths together!

Mitthrawnuruodo

Mar 15, 2005, 08:04 AM

I've seen a (German?) cartoon version which (more than) suggests that they are not gay... far from it actually... :D

yellow

Mar 15, 2005, 08:06 AM

Didn't they actually say that Bert was gay and he died of AIDS?

There's always going to be some crackpots that complain about something that they perceive as incorrect. For example, I think GWB is a ****ing moron and cannot believe that he was hired AGAIN. Me = crackpot. Anyway, I think these people should accuse Paul Bunyan of bestiality, after all, his 'best friend' was a giant blue ox. Clearly he has an 'animal banging agenda'.

Jackasses.

Nice find of the article though, really makes me smile. I was getting worried that the number of 'tard eediots in the US was dropping!

ziwi

Mar 15, 2005, 08:11 AM

Mr. Anderson

Mar 15, 2005, 08:17 AM

Taking a classic like snow white and making an issue of it is ludicrous. Bleh...that just really annoys me. Some people need to find a real hobby.

D

takao

Mar 15, 2005, 08:24 AM

ridiculous ...is perhaps the only word needed for that

some people really have way too much time on their hands...

stubeeef

Mar 15, 2005, 08:25 AM

This is probably the same group that was boycotting stores saying happy holidays.
The 7 dwarf were obviously transexuals! Good grief I thought everyone knew that.

Sleepy was tired from all the sex
Doc kept'm in AZT and penicillan
Sneezy was a coke addict
dopey-well thats why they call it dope!
bashful was that way because he had not had the "operation" yet
Happy, had the operation!
Grumpy was in need of hormones

edit, Was snow white just a cross dresser in drag?
(sorry had to do that!)

Applespider

Mar 15, 2005, 08:25 AM

I've seen a (German?) cartoon version which (more than) suggests that they are not gay... far from it actually... :D

I've seen that too - in Amsterdam... I've never heard Snow White and Seven Dwarves in the same light since.

If the dwarves weren't gay then I feel desperately sorry for them; stuck in the middle of the woods without any women around until Snow White showed up. Then again, their decor does kinda go against the gay stereotype - no job on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy for those dwarves! :)

iGav

Mar 15, 2005, 08:33 AM

I've never seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

stubeeef

Mar 15, 2005, 08:36 AM

I've never seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

That is very, very, sad. It is a good story and you should rent it.

I have it on DVD for my 3 girls, they love it.

emw

Mar 15, 2005, 08:38 AM

I've never seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.Actually, neither have I. We have the DVD, but the part with the witch scared my youngest daughter, so she's been unwilling to watch it even though she's older now.

Which I guess is a good thing - I wouldn't want to expose her to that kind of entertainment... :D

jsw

Mar 15, 2005, 08:39 AM

Since same-sex individuals interacting apparently promote a homosexual lifestyle, and members of the opposite sex interacting clearly promote promiscuity, I propose that all cartoons, from now on, involve a large rock which rolls around telling Bible stories and crushing children once they reach puberty, thus ensuring that they die "pure".

:rolleyes:

takao

Mar 15, 2005, 08:41 AM

I've never seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

me neither ... never was shown on tv...as far as i know

but i'm pretty sure disney made the story a bit more kid friendly and excluded the "stepmother has to dance with heated up/red glowing iron shoes untill she dies" part from the end ;)

JonoColesUK

Mar 15, 2005, 08:42 AM

Jeez poor guys

They had it bad enough before with the whole "being midgets" thing...

Imagine all the stick they must get now.

yellow

Mar 15, 2005, 08:44 AM

I propose that all cartoons, from now on, involve a large rock which rolls around telling Bible stories and crushing children once they reach puberty, thus ensuring that they die "pure".

LOL! Pure entertainment genius. Can we call it "Jebus Boulder"?

yellow

Mar 15, 2005, 08:46 AM

Imagine all the stick they must get now.

Frankly with the current trend of the gay fad in telelvison and movie production in the US, you'd think their agents would be getting them more gigs then ever before! Wasn't that Sneezy in Goldmember?

emw

Mar 15, 2005, 08:46 AM

jsw

Mar 15, 2005, 08:50 AM

Not sure I can support something that promotes rock and roll.
Or Rolling Rock - since alcohol is evil. I should have put more thought into it; it's just hard to think like a fundamentalist, since their way of thinking doesn't seem to involve actual thought. Perhaps a show about falling Bibles, burning with righteous anger, that smite children when they think impure thoughts?

emw

Mar 15, 2005, 09:02 AM

Or Rolling Rock - since alcohol is evil. I should have put more thought into it; it's just hard to think like a fundamentalist, since their way of thinking doesn't seem to involve actual thought. Perhaps a show about falling Bibles, burning with righteous anger, that smite children when they think impure thoughts?Hmmm. Not bad - I can get over the violence thing since it is enforcing such a good message. But I don't think it should be limited to children, it should be open to striking everyone but clergy (since we know they're pure) and perhaps Republicans, since ultimately they have our best interests at heart.

Mechcozmo

Mar 15, 2005, 09:22 AM

I propose that all cartoons, from now on, involve a large rock which rolls around telling Bible stories and crushing children once they reach puberty, thus ensuring that they die "pure".

:rolleyes:

I vote we just skip to the crushing people part. Easier to decide posthumously if they were pure or not. :p

aricher

Mar 15, 2005, 09:26 AM

I think there is already a Bible show like that.

Power Rangers for Christians??? Scary. (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp)

ExoticFish

Mar 15, 2005, 09:34 AM

Why hasn't the religious right gone after Bert and Ernie - the took baths together!

as far as i remember they did and if you watch them now they don't sleep in the same bed anymore. :rolleyes: i want to meet every one of these people who take everything from my youth and twist and distort it and punch them in the eye. there is absolutely no need for this crap and i'm getting real sick of it.

takao

Mar 15, 2005, 09:42 AM

I think there is already a Bible show like that.

Power Rangers for Christians??? Scary. (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp)

brawahahahaha ... boy i shouldn't have clicked on that link when eating cornflakes nearly ruined my keyboard ... the cheesy trailers alone are worth it

rainman::|:|

Mar 15, 2005, 09:50 AM

This is so much better than the (untrue) rumor I heard about the dwarves being the seven stages of cocaine addiction... They're queens? All right! Dwarf queen disco party!

PlaceofDis

Mar 15, 2005, 10:28 AM

of course they weren't gay, they are cartoons!!!

gotta love the society we live in today....

mactastic

Mar 15, 2005, 11:00 AM

Lol... so the dwarfs are gay now huh?

The funny part is that much has been made in the feminist world about how bad of an example Snow White was for doing all the cooking and cleaning while the dwarves worked and for perpetuating the 'helpless woman' stereotype. And now it's catching flak from the right too. Too funny. :p

ExoticFish

Mar 15, 2005, 11:05 AM

I think there is already a Bible show like that.

Power Rangers for Christians??? Scary. (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp)

WOW... that is absolutely amazing. This kind of stuff cracks me up.

Thomas Veil

Mar 15, 2005, 02:38 PM

Then what about the Lone Ranger? He must of had a double agenda - Silver and Tonto. ;) or maybe Kirk, Spock and Bones - the fearsome Threesome, or even Big Bird and Snuffy, or how about Batman and Robin, sheesh next they will be saying that Michael Jackson has some kind of agenda - ;)Believe it not, there is a fairly large body of Star Trek fan fiction that revolves around a homosexual Kirk-Spock relationship. Don't ask, I don't get it either...

And Batman and Robin were accused of being gay back in the 1950s by a pious crusader named Frederick Wertham. Two men living together! Running around at night in spandex tights! The horror! The perversion!

Of course, that makes me wonder about Robin Hood and his merry men... ;) :D

yellow

Mar 15, 2005, 02:54 PM

Of course, that makes me wonder about Robin Hood and his merry men... ;) :D

LOL. Clearly a translation mistake overtime.. originally, it was Robin Hood and his Marys.

Lord Blackadder

Mar 15, 2005, 03:17 PM

Of course, that makes me wonder about Robin Hood and his merry men... ;) :D

Obviously you've never seen Mel Brooks' "Robinhood: Men in Tights".

Rabbi Tuckman (Brooks) asks Robin Hood if he and his men are gay, and Robin replies "We're straight, just.....merry."

This thing with the dwarves sets new lows...lord people irritate me.

Aeolius

Mar 15, 2005, 03:35 PM

don't forget about the Skipper and Gilligan...his "little buddy". :D

jsw

Mar 15, 2005, 03:36 PM

don't forget about the Skipper and Gilligan...his "little buddy". :D
You're forgetting Ginger and Mary Ann. That was one little island of sin, I tell you.

Punani

Mar 15, 2005, 04:05 PM

Why hasn't the religious right gone after Bert and Ernie - the took baths together!The San Francisco Bay Guardian of 5 January, 1994, reprints a letter to the editor of TV Guide (date not given; the SFBG mention is in a year-end roundup edition, and so this might have been taken from anytime in 1993). Julianne H. Sallee, of Pocanontas [sic] AZ, complained about a TV Guide article praising "Sesame Street", saying:

"After reading your article, 'TV That is Good for Your Kids', it was reported to me that Bert and Ernie are gay. My grandchildren will not be watching 'Sesame Street' anymore, and I hope you will relay that message to Executive Producer Michael Loman."

SFBG reports the Children's Television Workshop response: "Bert and Ernie do not portray a gay couple and there are no plans for them to do so in the future. They are puppets, not humans."

I think that about sums it up! :D

kettle

Mar 15, 2005, 04:16 PM

Everyone under 5 foot is gay and that includes Frodo Baggins.

:confused:

;)

plinden

Mar 15, 2005, 04:31 PM

Well considering Spongebob Squarepants and Tinky Winky are gay....

Doesn't Spongebob live in Bikini Bottom? Sounds suspect to me.

Mechcozmo

Mar 15, 2005, 06:33 PM

I think there is already a Bible show like that.

Power Rangers for Christians??? Scary. (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp)

Look out! Its Bibleman! His dry sermons will kill you! AAAahhhh!!!!

:p

Xtremehkr

Mar 15, 2005, 06:45 PM

Biblemans arch nemesis is "Wacky Protester"?

Subtle people these Christians.

Mechcozmo

Mar 15, 2005, 06:55 PM

Biblemans arch nemesis is "Wacky Protester"?

Subtle people these Christians.

Naw, I'd think Darwin is Bibleman's arch enemy. :rolleyes:

mactastic

Mar 15, 2005, 07:14 PM

Huh... I would've thought his arch-enemy would be Satan.

Xtremehkr

Mar 15, 2005, 07:25 PM

Satan seems to have lost his ability to scare people like he used to be able to. Besides that, there are much more pressing issues to deal with, Satan can wait until that pesky separation of church and state is removed and religious law put in place.

In the meantime I guess we have to watch out for "Wacky Protester," "Pro Choice Girl," and the evil "Atheoistical" people.

Sun Baked

Mar 15, 2005, 07:40 PM

There are things you read and just shake your head...

Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0503150071mar15,1,460734.story) (you may need a free login).

:rolleyes:7 men living together, that occasionally break out in group songs -- makes them gay?

What does that say about 7 of more men that do the same thing in real life, are they gay or a fraternity? :rolleyes:

rainman::|:|

Mar 15, 2005, 07:49 PM

seven gay men living together would never break into song. Bitchfights maybe, but not song. "Uh, you stole my pickaxe, you whore! And are those my earrings??" ...I'd keep my distance anyway.

wdlove

Mar 15, 2005, 08:07 PM

I believe in the dictionary definition of words. Gay means happy. Not all of the seven Dwarfs were happy. Such as grumpy.

Lacero

Mar 15, 2005, 08:20 PM

They certainly were gay when Snow White woke up. So yes, they were gay.

rainman::|:|

Mar 15, 2005, 10:44 PM

I believe in the dictionary definition of words. Gay means happy. Not all of the seven Dwarfs were happy. Such as grumpy.

gay
adj. gay·er, gay·est
-Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
-Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.
-Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.
-Given to social pleasures.
-Dissolute; licentious.

n.
-A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex.
-A man whose sexual orientation is to men: an alliance of gays and lesbians.

[Middle English gai, lighthearted, brightly colored, from Old French, possibly of Germanic origin.]
gayness n.
Usage Note: The word gay is now standard in its use to refer to homosexuals, in large part because it is the term that most gay people prefer in referring to themselves. Gay is distinguished from homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to sexual practice. Many writers reserve gay for males, but the word is also used to refer to both sexes; when the intended meaning is not clear in the context, the phrase gay and lesbian may be used. Like the other names of social groups derived from adjectives (for example, Black), gay may be regarded as offensive when used as a noun to refer to particular individuals, as in There were two gays on the panel; here phrasing such as gay members should be used instead. But there is no objection to the use of the noun in the plural to refer collectively either to gay men or to gay men and lesbians, so long as it is clear whether men alone or both men and women are being discussed. See Usage Note at homosexual.

~loserman~

Mar 15, 2005, 11:56 PM

Gay?
I thought They were all pimps. Didn't they go around singing Hi Ho all the time.

Geeze how dumb can some people be.

notjustjay

Mar 16, 2005, 08:55 AM

I thought They were all pimps. Didn't they go around singing Hi Ho all the time.

LOL!

For the record, some of those shows (e.g. Bibleman) are a little embarrassing to some of us Christians too.

And as much as I respect Dr. James Dobson and Focus on the Family, I do NOT respect his thoughts on Spongebob and I think he deserves all the flak he gets for that one.

stubeeef

Mar 16, 2005, 09:26 AM

LOL!

For the record, some of those shows (e.g. Bibleman) are a little embarrassing to some of us Christians too.

And as much as I respect Dr. James Dobson and Focus on the Family, I do NOT respect his thoughts on Spongebob and I think he deserves all the flak he gets for that one.

Ditto!

maxvamp

Mar 16, 2005, 11:34 AM

Sheese...

I hate these nut balls that try to insert sex into everything...just so they can be afraid of it and assault it by calling it immoral. Really Tees me off.

Yet you suggest that Jesus might of had a romp with Mary Magdalene, and you can watch their heads split open..

I guess my questions are...

Why must insert sexuality where there is none?

Why must we attack good old fashion comradery and friendship with accusation of perverted sexual deviancy usually only found in the mind of the accuser? Isn't this also part of the moral decay that is decried so often?

My 2 cents...

Max.

Thomas Veil

Mar 16, 2005, 11:47 AM

don't forget about the Skipper and Gilligan...his "little buddy". :DI knew someone who claimed the characters on Lost in Space paired up thusly: Dr. & Mrs. Robinson (well of course, they're married); Don and Judy (already romantically involved, no surprise); Penny and Will (incestuous, but I guess if you're on a planet with no one else your own age... :rolleyes: ). That left Dr. Smith and the robot. I don't even want to think about that, but it does explain why they were always hanging around together.

seven gay men living together would never break into song.What about six straight men? (http://www.jengajam.com/r/Lego-Monty-Python) :D

Hemingray

Mar 16, 2005, 12:06 PM

Is nothing innocent anymore? Absolutely pathetic. :mad:

wdlove

Mar 16, 2005, 04:30 PM

gay
adj. gay·er, gay·est
-Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
-Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.
-Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.
-Given to social pleasures.
-Dissolute; licentious.

n.
-A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex.
-A man whose sexual orientation is to men: an alliance of gays and lesbians.

[Middle English gai, lighthearted, brightly colored, from Old French, possibly of Germanic origin.]
gayness n.
Usage Note: The word gay is now standard in its use to refer to homosexuals, in large part because it is the term that most gay people prefer in referring to themselves. Gay is distinguished from homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to sexual practice. Many writers reserve gay for males, but the word is also used to refer to both sexes; when the intended meaning is not clear in the context, the phrase gay and lesbian may be used. Like the other names of social groups derived from adjectives (for example, Black), gay may be regarded as offensive when used as a noun to refer to particular individuals, as in There were two gays on the panel; here phrasing such as gay members should be used instead. But there is no objection to the use of the noun in the plural to refer collectively either to gay men or to gay men and lesbians, so long as it is clear whether men alone or both men and women are being discussed. See Usage Note at homosexual.

What kind of dictionary did that come from? Was it a national recognized or collegiate dictionary. A dictionary must to follow certain standards.

yellow

Mar 16, 2005, 04:39 PM

Mirriam-Webster defines "gay" as:

Main Entry: gay
Pronunciation: 'gA
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French gai
1 a : happily excited : MERRY b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits
2 a : BRIGHT, LIVELY <gay sunny meadows> b : brilliant in color
3 : given to social pleasures; also : LICENTIOUS
4 a : HOMOSEXUAL b : of, relating to, or used by homosexuals <the gay rights movement> <a gay bar>

Chip NoVaMac

Mar 16, 2005, 06:27 PM

gay
adj. gay·er, gay·est
-Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
-Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.
-Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.
-Given to social pleasures.
-Dissolute; licentious.

n.
-A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex.
-A man whose sexual orientation is to men: an alliance of gays and lesbians.

[Middle English gai, lighthearted, brightly colored, from Old French, possibly of Germanic origin.]
gayness n.
Usage Note: The word gay is now standard in its use to refer to homosexuals, in large part because it is the term that most gay people prefer in referring to themselves. Gay is distinguished from homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to sexual practice. Many writers reserve gay for males, but the word is also used to refer to both sexes; when the intended meaning is not clear in the context, the phrase gay and lesbian may be used. Like the other names of social groups derived from adjectives (for example, Black), gay may be regarded as offensive when used as a noun to refer to particular individuals, as in There were two gays on the panel; here phrasing such as gay members should be used instead. But there is no objection to the use of the noun in the plural to refer collectively either to gay men or to gay men and lesbians, so long as it is clear whether men alone or both men and women are being discussed. See Usage Note at homosexual.

That is surprising!

Going OT, I can see some religous right people going after that Christmas Carol with the line "don thy gay apparel". :D

Chip NoVaMac

Mar 16, 2005, 06:32 PM

Sun Baked

Mar 16, 2005, 06:44 PM

Is nothing innocent anymore? Absolutely pathetic. :mad:Nope, but I'd suspect after all the recent lawsuits and arrests -- if Fred Rogers would have built "Mister Rogers' Neighborhood" in the last 5 or 6 years, he would have already been arrested and tossed in jail, or been embroiled in a civil child molestation trial.

Because absolutely nobody could love children that much. :rolleyes:

And that sweater just screams ...

There there are those evil Muppets on Sesame Street. ;)

Thomas Veil

Mar 16, 2005, 09:44 PM

American-Heritage shows the same as Paul's definition.

Oh, great now we will have battles from the religious right as to what dictionary to use!Well, the King James version, of course! ;)

robodweeb

Mar 17, 2005, 01:43 AM

or maybe Kirk, Spock and Bones

There is a homoerotic genre of fan fiction known as "slash" (for the virgule use to delimit pairings between male characters in popular TV shows, movies, etc). One of the earliest, dating back to the late 1970s, was a ficitional piece titled "Pass the Crisco, Spock" (go ahead, google the title if you don't believe me) ...

What usually surprises people about slash is the size of the community (more than 17,000 individuals on LiveJournal alone) and the fact that it's almost entirely heterosexual women who write theses stories and who read them.