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MacRumors
Sep 20, 2002, 12:46 AM
Vote: Poll:Which is your Preferred Browser? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=34&ref=forums.macrumors.com)
sparkleytone
Sep 20, 2002, 01:10 AM
uh oh here we go again.
i predict chimera goes for two in a row.
vniow
Sep 20, 2002, 01:17 AM
I'd use Chimera
cuz its speedy
but I've got a PC
so it's Mozilla for me.:D
King Cobra
Sep 20, 2002, 06:58 AM
I've been using Mozilla a lot. I have tried the pinball theme and the pinstripe theme to improve the old look.
My father just installed Mozilla with his iMac 500. He used to use IE with DSL, but he found Mozilla to be "fast". I guess that was to say the least.
Sure, Mozilla has some problems, but at least it has a more open source code, compared to the cramped and jacked Netscape.
Plus, Mozilla boots up in about 10 seconds on my Cube.
sparkleytone
Sep 20, 2002, 12:20 PM
wow, IE is actually winning. buncha uninformed people here.
SilvorX
Sep 20, 2002, 12:44 PM
m0z!114 all the way! :D, im usin moz right now on 8.6 and its sure faster than ie and crapscape4...on ie the pages usually freeze for a min, that doesnt happen for mozilla...
chmorley
Sep 20, 2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
wow, IE is actually winning. buncha uninformed people here. True, but I actually find it very hopeful that IE doesn't have anywhere near a majority--just 6 months ago I bet it would have (as it did here).
Chris
Thirteenva
Sep 20, 2002, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
wow, IE is actually winning. buncha uninformed people here.
I disagree i don't think IE users are "misinformed" at all. I dislike m$ a lot, but for right now and for me personally IE despite some obvious speed/stability problems displays pages good on mac and can't be beat on the PC. Now don't get me wrong i am NOT pc lover or even a fan, in fact i loathe my pc, but as a web designer/developer, i must have one around for testing(can't ignore over 90% of the websurfing public). I use alot of different browsers for both testing and personal use. I have at least 5 different browsers installed at any given time. and i find on the mac that its not matter of choosing the best browser but the lesser of two evils. At any given time i am jumping between two browsers to surf the web, one fails where the other shines, I don't feel there is a standout web browser for the mac. On the PC IE can't be beat, sorry but its true, yes i know its fast because its integrated with the OS, but none the less, its still fast, no pc browser can match it on the windows platform. But the mac however is a diffrent story, i don't feel there is a truly standout performance from any one browser in particular in OS X.
<disclaimer>
These are just my personal opinions and i make no attempt to speak for anyone else.
</disclamer>
Mozilla 1.1 - great browser, getting better with each build. Still, some web pages don't display well in it, and i have some problems with flash content. Initial load time is slow but overall much faster at displaying pages than IE is. Plus i love the tabs. Still needs some work though.
Netscape 4.7 - have this on my pc for testing. Does not adhere to many new web standards, too outdated. Never use it for personal browsing but i actually know some pc people who do.
Netscape 6.2- slow, prone to crashing. i recently took this off all my machines.
Netscape 7- so much better than 6, i really like this browser, A little slower than mozilla i think, but has some extra features i like. Lots of changes that i like. Now has better support for web standards.
Omniweb - Also much faster than IE, crashes less often. I like alot of the features(especially that wont let "pop up" windows open unless you specifically click a link). Still this browser has some problems with flash content. Flash sites using multiple swf layers don't always display right. I do alot of flash work and view alot of flash sites, so this is important to me but may not be to others.
Chimera - used it for a bit, had bad support for flash content, got rid of it haven't used the newer ones. I hear nothing but great things though, so it will prob make its way to my tibook again.
Opera- Tried it, liked it on the pc, didnt like the mac version and since i spend 80% of my time on a mac, i dumped it.
IE- i dislike m$ as much as anyone and i preech "switch" wherever i go (my friends and family won't even bring up computers now, there tired of hearing. "a mac would do this so much better, let me tell you how...") However i find that on the mac it displays pages nicely(though slowly). I find alot of pages look better in mac OS X IE than on windows IE. It is however crash prone, especially with multiple programs and/or browser windows open. Soooo slow though.
My top 3 browsers right now are IE, netscape 7 (been doing some testing with it) & Omniweb. Each has its own strength's and its own weaknesses.
oldMac
Sep 20, 2002, 03:31 PM
But I expect that will change within the next 3-6 months...
Internet Explorer (the "default")
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The good...
- Fairly stable
- Renders nicely
- Decent plugin support
The bad...
- Slow
- Irritating "pauses"
- Horrible Javascript performance
Mozilla 1.1 (the "ubiquitous")
---------------------------------------------
The good...
- Fairly stable
- Renders nicely
- Fairly quick
The bad...
- Horrible launch time
- Custom GUI controls feel weird
- No focus on optimization for the Mac
- Fat (Lots of baggage)
Chimera (the "contender")
-----------------------------------------------
The good...
- Fairly quick
- Renders nicely
- True Blue OS X GUI!
- Trim
The bad...
------------------------------------------------
- Not stable
- Horrible launch time
jelloshotsrule
Sep 20, 2002, 03:32 PM
i have to agree... no single browser has the support of ie... that said, my main browser is chimera. i have problems with how it downloads files sometimes. and viewing movies and other plug ins with it can be tough at times...
so i use ie when i have a problem with chimera.
i don't blame people for using ie, but i do think that within a few months or a year, chimera or some other option will be better than ie overall...
word.
jelloshotsrule
Sep 20, 2002, 03:35 PM
here's a question... what's the browser with the best java support?
i want to play some yahoo pool but haven't found a browser that gets it going smoothly damnit! :)
AmigaMac
Sep 20, 2002, 05:28 PM
I'm a Netscape freak, so it's Netscape/Mozilla/Chimera for me... I haven't used IE extensively since I left the Wintel world behind over 3 years ago. I sure hope Apple does adopt Chimera for its own branded web browser!
mc68k
Sep 20, 2002, 09:19 PM
Chimera. For speed reasons. Speed is everything on a 9600.
arn
Sep 20, 2002, 11:09 PM
I run Mac OS X.
I use IE.
I just tried Chimera... was impressed... but it keeps unexpectedly quiting on me.
Am back on IE.
arn
zimv20
Sep 21, 2002, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by arn
I just tried Chimera... was impressed... but it keeps unexpectedly quiting on me.
is it chimera v 0.5? the suckiness of .4 vs. the grandeur of .5 were night and day for me.
afm
Sep 22, 2002, 03:41 AM
Many of my web pages are created from XML data using XSLT stylesheets. As usual with XML, the
resulting pages are UTF-8 encoded. Independently of that, Unicode is the way the W3C is going. And
IE on the Mac is the only browser capable of turning UTF-8 encoded pages with lots of german
umlauts unreadable. It just does not understand UTF-8. It may be loaded with other features, but
with unreadable text, a browser is simply useless.
scem0
Sep 29, 2002, 12:18 AM
ugggggghhh. IE is winning!!! IE is winning when Chimera is an option. I sense that something is completely wrong....
scem0
Sep 29, 2002, 12:19 AM
But as for what I said:
Right now my preffered Browser is Cunning. It is really chimera with a brushed metal interface. It is pretty nice.
madamimadam
Sep 29, 2002, 08:22 PM
I could never give one answer, I use BOTH Mozilla and IE
I can NOT use Chimera.... it is likely only so fast because there is nothing in it. I was using it for about 2 weeks and had to go back to Mozilla... I loved Mozilla's easy ability to save my passwords... its higher level of stability and the amount of web pages it can load vs. Chimera.
IE, on the other hand, hangs around for those pages that Mozilla can not load especially in the area of WebObject Development.
wdlove
Oct 23, 2002, 08:55 PM
Like both Internet Explorer & Netscape, but at the moment the Netscape bookmarks are scrolling >pace than able to select!:confused:
marklander
Oct 25, 2002, 12:18 AM
For those of you who haven't tried Chimera Navigator (version .5), do it now! (what's with the confusing name of this product?)
Chimera is definitely an alternative to IE. I have very few problems with it and love using TABs--instead of opening a page in a new window, you can open it in a TAB...very OS X. Still missing History and the menu icons are ugly but can be easily replaced.
This browser's development is moving at light-speed compared to OmniWeb which still can't display iFrames.
Maybe Apple should acquire Chimera and brand it iBrowse.
madamimadam
Oct 25, 2002, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by marklander
For those of you who haven't tried Chimera Navigator (version .5), do it now! (what's with the confusing name of this product?)
Chimera is definitely an alternative to IE. I have very few problems with it and love using TABs--instead of opening a page in a new window, you can open it in a TAB...very OS X. Still missing History and the menu icons are ugly but can be easily replaced.
This browser's development is moving at light-speed compared to OmniWeb which still can't display iFrames.
Maybe Apple should acquire Chimera and brand it iBrowse.
I really can't get into Chimera. I don't see why I would want to use half a browser when I could use the Browser it is based on. Sure, Chimera might be faster and look nicer but if it can't load most of the pages I view, what good is it?
I must admit that I have not used Chimera since 0.4 but in that build there was no password saving either and that is a luxury I just do not want to do without.
sparkleytone
Oct 25, 2002, 12:44 AM
i really dont understand how anyone can believe Chimera to be "half a browser"
your password feature is there now. thats one feature i do not and never will trust.
Chimera is essentially the same browser as mozilla, with alot of the useless crap cut out...such as mail/news, IRC, and composer. since these things arent in the same category as 'browser', i hope these arent features your were referring to.
i prefer chimera to mozilla in an extreme way. the moz interface is clunky and in many ways completely counterintuitive. there are WAY too many options to click through for it to work the way I want it to. Simplicity and ease of use are winning features for me.
madamimadam
Oct 25, 2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
Chimera is essentially the same browser as mozilla, with alot of the useless crap cut out...such as mail/news, IRC, and composer. since these things arent in the same category as 'browser', i hope these arent features your were referring to.
Useless features like the java integration and displaying of most features that are beyond the simplistic HTML. As for mail/news and composer... they can go to hell.... IRC I did not even know was there. I just want a browser that works... if I have to have a few extra features then that is fine. As for Chimera, it is a browser I will keep coming back to... I will probably start using it all the time once it reaches version 1.
i prefer chimera to mozilla in an extreme way. the moz interface is clunky and in many ways completely counterintuitive. there are WAY too many options to click through for it to work the way I want it to. Simplicity and ease of use are winning features for me.
Mozilla is EXTREMELY clunky and it shows ESPECIALLY at times like trying to move to another tab while one tab is loading. It works with most pages, though, and that mixed with tabs and password handling (not only remembering passwords but encripting them behind a master password) makes me want to use it. I just wish it would integrate with WebObjects development better
Switcher2001
Oct 25, 2002, 02:12 AM
I prefer Chimera, but I take online courses through eCollege, in addition to my regular on-site courses, and eCollege doesn't support Chimera (or even Mozilla, for that matter), and maybe Chimera and Mozilla aren't capable of rendering eCollege's pages. I don't know. Bottom line is: if I can't access the coursework, I can't take the class. So I use IE 5.2.2 on Mac OS 10.2.1.
I end up using IE as my default browser because I don't like switching between browsers all the time. Chimera can't import my IE favorites, and vice versa, so it gets hard to keep track of my favorites when I have to jump back and forth all the time.
So it's IE for now, but Chimera as soon as it comes of age! Go, Chimera, go!
Lz0
Oct 25, 2002, 06:11 AM
At any one time I will have IE, Netscape and OmniWeb open??? This does **** me a little because I would like to use just one browser, but they all have their cons and pros.
If Apple were to produce their own browser they should consult the masses (us) for suggestions.
My first suggestion would be a UID and PW rembering system that was both like IE and Netscape. I log into my system and get sick of the 101 UID's and PW's I have to remember.
But as it stands I use IE for some and Netscape for others.
scem0
Oct 26, 2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by scem0
But as for what I said:
Right now my preffered Browser is Cunning. It is really chimera with a brushed metal interface. It is pretty nice.
LOL, I complained about how IE was winning before, but If I had to vote now, I would vote for IE, because IE is the best browser in the PC world (I just bought a PC).
madamimadam
Oct 27, 2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by scem0
LOL, I complained about how IE was winning before, but If I had to vote now, I would vote for IE, because IE is the best browser in the PC world (I just bought a PC).
No wonder you have that face on your avator
I always wondered what it was about but now I know... it was how you looked when you realiased what you had gotten yourself into and the vast mistake you'd made.
;)
TheMacOS.com
Mar 20, 2004, 04:07 AM
took me nearly 13 years to start using a MS product.... explorer was the first one...
now, im hearing they will not be updating it for the mac. :(
so, now im using safari, and im getting use to it. :)
blue&whiteman
Mar 20, 2004, 06:32 AM
firefox 4eva!
chinamac
Mar 20, 2004, 07:20 AM
firefox 4eva!
So we are answering a thread from quite a long time ago---But the new Opera for Mac is really outstanding, just came out a few days ago and boy its fast, much faster than Safari and more stable than Firefox. New Moz, just downloaded it today, does give it a run for its money in terms of speed and stability.
blue&whiteman
Mar 20, 2004, 09:02 AM
So we are answering a thread from quite a long time ago---But the new Opera for Mac is really outstanding, just came out a few days ago and boy its fast, much faster than Safari and more stable than Firefox. New Moz, just downloaded it today, does give it a run for its money in terms of speed and stability.
I don't find firefox unstable at all. I have used it for about 2 months now and had maybe 3 app crashes. no more than any other browser.
main reason I love firefox is its scrolling speed. I can scroll through a web page 2-3 times faster than any other browser I have used.
ingenious
Mar 20, 2004, 09:58 AM
its time for another poll that includes safari, the new opera, and firefox. I just started using safari, and it is soooo much better than IE 5.2.3!
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