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PBF
Jun 6, 2011, 10:55 PM
Ok, so I got back home about 2 hours ago and just finished watching the keynote. Well, I have a million and one questions. My head is about to blow.

Most importantly, I'm concerned about our web.me.com and gallery.me.com addresses. What's gonna happen to our iWeb sites? What about our MobileMe Galleries? Does that mean that my iWeb site will cease to exist after June 30, 2012??? What's gonna happen to our personal domain names??? So no more MobileMe web hosting???

Please, someone, try to answer all of my questions. I'm having a panic attack.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:



cltitus
Jun 6, 2011, 11:01 PM
it will be the same thing as the @mac to @me conversion but you will keep @me and everything will be on the icloud service. If you need more then 5gb of space they are going to offer payments for more gb.

just think of this idisk is getting renamed icloud with more things that go alone with it.

thunderbunny
Jun 7, 2011, 12:03 AM
it will be the same thing as the @mac to @me conversion but you will keep @me and everything will be on the icloud service. If you need more then 5gb of space they are going to offer payments for more gb.

just think of this idisk is getting renamed icloud with more things that go alone with it.

Is this not just guesswork on your part? Nothing has been said about this, the Apple email was suitably vague with more details to follow.

As far as we know the iDocuments will hold iWork documents. Suggests other developers can follow suit but this is not the same as iDisk at the moment which stores anything you put there. Nothing said about web hosting - have just started using this through iWeb so hope it continues.

kurzz
Jun 7, 2011, 02:02 AM
Is this not just guesswork on your part? Nothing has been said about this, the Apple email was suitably vague with more details to follow.

As far as we know the iDocuments will hold iWork documents. Suggests other developers can follow suit but this is not the same as iDisk at the moment which stores anything you put there. Nothing said about web hosting - have just started using this through iWeb so hope it continues.


The only thing official or certain SO FAR is that Apple is keeping the @me addresses. Apple added a short FAQ (that's not in the email) in our mobile me account section under Accounts.

AppleTools
Jun 7, 2011, 02:13 AM
Just talked to a MobileMe support agent and after making the same question about the other MobileMe services over and over again I got a vague response...

"Advisor [12:47 a.m.]:
At the current moment, the information on iCloud is yet to be fully decided. You can always track our latest news here: Apple Hot News"

They are not talking about it. I guess my guess is as good as anyone else's...

I don't think they will discontinue Find my iPhone for example... But not too sure about web or gallery. Hope they don't close those services because I use them a lot but they might as well charge for the extra services if you want a bigger cloud... I don't mind. I am already paying for MobileMe...

However, if they are extending your MobileMe subscription a full year for free, is because they want to give everybody enough time to move their stuff out. Otherwise they would just "upgrade" you to the full iCloud package if they plan on keeping those services...

Remember iTools? and the not so old .Mac? Well, here we go again...

sananda
Jun 7, 2011, 05:45 AM
I have all my documents and photos are on iDisk (70 GB storage), my website is hosted by MobileMe and I have a lot of galleries. Looks like I need to find a new way of doing things. I suppose I have a year to work that out.

Morod
Jun 7, 2011, 05:53 AM
I've had MM for a few years now. Email, iDisk and Galleries are the only parts of it that I use. I have no iDevices to sync or lose.
If I abandon the MM/iCloud ship, is there another service out there that offers these as an all-in-one package? I probably won't upgrade to Lion so I don't know if iCloud will even be available to me.

wolfpackfan
Jun 7, 2011, 06:06 AM
What I am hoping is that they will grandfather in iDisk for all current MM users.

wolfpackfan
Jun 7, 2011, 06:07 AM
I've had MM for a few years now. Email, iDisk and Galleries are the only parts of it that I use. I have no iDevices to sync or lose.
If I abandon the MM/iCloud ship, is there another service out there that offers these as an all-in-one package? I probably won't upgrade to Lion so I don't know if iCloud will even be available to me.

For email go with Gmail. For iDisk go with Dropbox. For Galleries go with Picasa (Google Photos).

thunderbunny
Jun 7, 2011, 06:37 AM
For email go with Gmail. For iDisk go with Dropbox. For Galleries go with Picasa (Google Photos).

Not an all-in-one solution. If the majority of iOS users have access to iCloud and iDocuments or whatever, how many developers may drop support for dropbox? As google have demonstrated with older browsers support for gmail and other goggle services is not guaranteed for iOS forever.

aussie_geek
Jun 7, 2011, 07:56 AM
it will be the same thing as the @mac to @me conversion but you will keep @me and everything will be on the icloud service. If you need more then 5gb of space they are going to offer payments for more gb.

just think of this idisk is getting renamed icloud with more things that go alone with it.

Lets hope so. They need to release some more details!!

boston04and07
Jun 7, 2011, 08:07 AM
I'm worried about the Back to my Mac integration in MobileMe. I use it all the time. I know there are other screen sharing alternatives out there but I've always loved the simplicity of doing it this way. I really hope they don't discontinue this.

spencers
Jun 7, 2011, 08:10 AM
Yeah, I hope some form of iWeb and iDisk stay around.

^^BIGMac
Jun 7, 2011, 08:56 AM
"Advisor [12:47 a.m.]:
At the current moment, the information on iCloud is yet to be fully decided.Well then they should hav e **** until they knew or were able to communicated to their customers what is going to happen. This is very frustrating with all the sketchy details. :mad:

techpr
Jun 7, 2011, 01:34 PM
I'm worried about the Back to my Mac integration in MobileMe. I use it all the time. I know there are other screen sharing alternatives out there but I've always loved the simplicity of doing it this way. I really hope they don't discontinue this.

Back to my Mac will be available in iCloud. Don't worry.

Soura2112
Jun 8, 2011, 02:56 PM
I love MobileMe, and also curious what's going to happen it. I was talking to my friend who felt the same way, what about iWeb? Back up? Domains, so much we use it for.
First off Apple should have mentioned it at the keynote, if not then explain it more on the email we all got. Some of us have a lot of info on their and use MobileMe a lot, so why not keep it for those who want it, then have iCloud also.
Apple better do something to make us happy since many of use MobileMe to full extent.
As of now I'm not happy with this idea. I hope they figure it out, or at least allow us who already have it to be grandfathered in somehow.

Anonymous Freak
Jun 9, 2011, 03:30 AM
First, let's start with the guarantees:

Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Find my Device. These were specifically called out as being at the core of iCloud.


Then let's wander to the questionables:

Websites, MobileMe galleries, iDisk, Back to My Mac.

Of these, I have to assume Back to My Mac will stick around. It's a new enough feature, and has a very 'cloud'-esque nature to it, plus it's built in to the OS and the AirPort line. Doesn't really use any Apple resources, either, so it seems like a no brainer.

iDisk, websites, and galleries all look *VERY* questionable at this time.

My gut feeling is that galleries will be transitioned to "Photo Stream". Not the same, but that will be Apple's claim of continuity. (Which is too bad, because I have a *TON* of galleries shared for friends and family.)

iDisk seems like it is going to be replaced. The new 'doc syncing' feature seems to be its replacement. Yeah, again, not the same. No arbitrary-file support, no (yet-announced) public folder system. I figure it will probably be like the iWork.com beta (which I ALSO figure will be done away with in favor of doc syncing,) where you can choose to make individual files public, and they get their own URL. Again, not the same as an OS-mountable FOLDER, but that's my gut feeling. I figure it won't be long before some enterprising developers create an app that will allow arbitrary files to be stored and shared, though.

Websites I'm the most uneasy about. Nothing even remotely similar has been announced as part of iCloud. iWeb hasn't really been updated in quite a while. ("iWeb '11" is really the same version as in iLife '09 - and isn't even available from the Mac App Store - only if you buy it on DVD. Same with iDVD, which hasn't even been really upgraded since iLife '08.) My gut tells me websites are going the way of the do-do. And, with the emerging popularity of Facebook, I can kind of see why. iLife has always been about home users, and 'personal websites' have really tanked in popularity as Facebook has risen. Of course, I also know plenty of small businesses (including many small Mac and iOS software devlopers!) who use iWeb with MobileMe hosting for their websites!

Also, now that I think about it, the rising popularity of Facebook is a likely reason for phasing out galleries. People now share pictures and video on Facebook (or Flickr, Picasa, YouTube, even Twitter, etc,) so Apple probably figures by tying in more direct connections to those, they don't need to have their own similar storage location for public content. This realization further increases my belief that galleries will be going away. "Replaced" (at least that's what they'll call it,) by Photo Stream.

ormie
Jun 9, 2011, 04:11 AM
Well, I have my own web site through iWeb. I also upload a podcast through iWeb and MobileMe. The back to my mac and iDisk etc are little used, so it's important to me that iWeb continues. I might just save iWeb to a disk just in case it disappears when I install Lion, that way I'll be able to reinstall it; hopefully.

irfan.kara06
Jun 9, 2011, 05:18 AM
just an FYI for anyone interested, I asked an apple support rep about iDisk and Gallery and I got a pretty positive response. Not sure how reliable it is, but here it is below:

"I can definitely understand wanting to know if certain features are going to be available in iCloud. While specific details have not been released I am confident that there will be features that are similar, if not the same, to both iDisk and Gallery. There are too many of our customers, such as yourself, that enjoy all the features that Mobileme has to offer with both their iDIsk storage and using the Gallery. Again, while the exact details have not been released of what is going to be included, I am confident that those features will be included in iCloud, the name may change, but you will still be able to use all the features you have grown to rely on with MobileMe."

Anonymous Freak
Jun 9, 2011, 12:31 PM
just an FYI for anyone interested, I asked an apple support rep about iDisk and Gallery and I got a pretty positive response. Not sure how reliable it is, but here it is below:

"I can definitely understand wanting to know if certain features are going to be available in iCloud. While specific details have not been released I am confident that there will be features that are similar, if not the same, to both iDisk and Gallery. There are too many of our customers, such as yourself, that enjoy all the features that Mobileme has to offer with both their iDIsk storage and using the Gallery. Again, while the exact details have not been released of what is going to be included, I am confident that those features will be included in iCloud, the name may change, but you will still be able to use all the features you have grown to rely on with MobileMe."

At Apple, support reps don't know any more about future products than the public does. His word means just as much as mine does. "I am confident" means "Dammit, I use them too, and I sure as h-ll hope they DON'T drop them!"

ormie
Jun 13, 2011, 11:28 AM
It looks like we will have to find a new hosting site to replace MobileMe. The only good news I can say is there are hosting sites that will work with iWeb so it's just a matter of redirecting to a new host.


Cheers, Macjim.

ajvizzgamer101
Jun 13, 2011, 04:22 PM
I have all my documents and photos are on iDisk (70 GB storage), my website is hosted by MobileMe and I have a lot of galleries. Looks like I need to find a new way of doing things. I suppose I have a year to work that out.

Squarespace.com

But yeah it suck they are just abandoning these feature when they are still useful.

mrklaw
Jun 14, 2011, 03:11 AM
from what I understood from the keynote, you have two places for your photos.

photostream is the temporary 'buffer' of your latest photos. This is just there long enough for your other devices to download/sync them so you have backups. Not sure whether its robust enough to not need/want to sync manually to your computer, but lets see. I don't expect it to be an active viewing thing, as its everything you take photos of, no curating possible.

Then you can use space within your 5GB icloud free storage for photos you choose to keep. Thats the closest to the current idisk/galleries concept. Although no information on whether photos will be storable in a format like current galleries - it might simply be a folder full of files.

Nor is there any information on prices for more storage. I manage with the current 20GB idisk allowance, and so I hope Apple offers a 25 or 50GB storage tier option at a competitive price. Surely its in their interest to keep consumers with their service, and have icloud as central as possible in users' lives. Encouraging people to use alternative hosting solutions goes against that.

gthebash
Jul 12, 2011, 05:35 PM
I've just found out that it is no longer possible to upload a 2nd site created in iWeb to mobile me. 18 months ago I uploaded a 2nd site, but if I wanted to do that now, it wouldn't be possible. So, mobile me has been covertly de-spec'd by Apple. This doesn't bode well for iCloud.