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foisGras
Mar 22, 2005, 10:57 AM
I saw this over at ThinkSecret, go to Joyci.com (http://www.joyci.com) to see it. They sell iPods and with music preloaded. I tried searching for some tracks and they had them all, to my surprise.



bartelby
Mar 22, 2005, 11:07 AM
I had a look and the had very little of what I searched for...

foisGras
Mar 22, 2005, 11:13 AM
Really, what were you looking for? I found everything I was looking for, and not all Britney Spears I might add. :)

12ibookg4
Mar 22, 2005, 11:26 AM
they load it up with songs for $1.29 each. no thanks.

minesgeek
Mar 22, 2005, 11:59 AM
they load it up with songs for $1.29 each. no thanks.that is not that great of a deal. though i can see who their demographic is: the rich and the lazy...

CanadaRAM
Mar 22, 2005, 12:20 PM
There's an interesting twist to this: Currently, the courts have struck down the Canadian recording medi levy on hard disk and solid state media players. If it is reinstated, part of the levy languages specifies "Blank media or media that has never been recorded on", so putting a song onto an iPod may provide a defence against the levy because the media is no longer blank.

bousozoku
Mar 22, 2005, 12:32 PM
Odd, I didn't see any mention of them at Think Secret. It seems expensive but it is a service added to a product.

vouder17
Mar 22, 2005, 12:37 PM
they load it up with songs for $1.29 each. no thanks.

Yeah it really makes no sense, u really have to be lazy to order this :eek: .Or maybe there is a hidden secret....... :rolleyes:

PlaceofDis
Mar 22, 2005, 12:49 PM
its a good thing that apple isnt doing this, because Apple Corps would have a definate win on thier hands with it came to their lawsuit that we know they would file

CaptainCaveMann
Mar 22, 2005, 01:03 PM
That is the stupidist thing ive ever seen. Thanks :D

Jaffa Cake
Mar 22, 2005, 01:08 PM
Surely though this idea suffers from a serious flaw. You can't download any more music from your computer without wiping the preloaded songs at least, not without a third-party hack. Or am I just missing something?

yogi477
Mar 22, 2005, 01:40 PM
Surely though this idea suffers from a serious flaw. You can't download any more music from your computer without wiping the preloaded songs at least, not without a third-party hack. Or am I just missing something?

True, they could always supply it all on a DVD for you to put into iTunes or you could use 3rd party software to download the music first. Is this anything to do with the iPod vending machine I have been hearing about?

grapes911
Mar 22, 2005, 01:48 PM
What if you don't have a computer or don't have the internet? Many people may not be able to afford a computer or internet, but they may be able to purchase an ipod. The market is probably small for this, but I'm sure its there.

clayj
Mar 22, 2005, 02:06 PM
This must be the sort of thing that idiot celebrities like Paris Hilton and Melanie Griffith use... I mean, seriously, can you see either of these nitwits actually USING a computer? That, or they pay some techie to buy their CDs, rip them, and then copy them onto an iPod.

Nickygoat
Mar 22, 2005, 03:11 PM
People on dial up (there are still some ;) ), or who know very little about music, might want this. Other than that I don't know but i'm sure they'll sell a few.

emw
Mar 22, 2005, 03:17 PM
This is similar to the services that will take your CDs and load them up on your iPod for a fee. Fine if you don't have a lot of time, I guess, but really a waste of money.

Also, if you already have a ton of CDs, it's really a waste, since you're repurchasing the music, potentially.

vieoray
Mar 22, 2005, 03:20 PM
terrible idea, i agree, but maybe not so much with a shuffle. some band released their album on shuffles last week (i forget the name, check it out on iPod lounge if youre interested) and charged the price of the album + the shuffle. i think that's a good gift idea, since the shuffles are inexpensive, get someone a shuffle they can use along with their favorite band's new album or something... only problem is you lose the songs once connected to a computer.

foisGras
Mar 23, 2005, 10:07 AM
only problem is you lose the songs once connected to a computer.

why would they lose songs?

shortyjj
Mar 23, 2005, 10:14 AM
$30 for S/H on an ipod mini? wow.

Jaffa Cake
Mar 23, 2005, 11:22 AM
why would they lose songs?When you connect your iPod to your Mac or PC, you're presented with a dialogue window asking if you want to link the iPod in with the music library of that particular computer. Click no, and you can't add or delete songs off the iPod but if you click yes, it deletes the music already on the iPod and replaces it with your computer's music library. So, you can't add more music to your preloaded iPod without losing the music already on there at least, not without using third party software.

Basically, it's all part of Apple keeping the record labels happy by making it harder to pirate music. As other posters have mentioned, a work around would be provide you with a CD backup, or maybe putting a copy of the music on the iPod as files which wouldn't be overwritten when you link up.

Hope that all makes sense!

mariahlullaby
Mar 23, 2005, 06:15 PM
Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of the iPod? Half its allure is how easy it
is to use with iTunes; just sync up and go. And you have to get online to order from that site anyway, so you have some sort of access to a computer- just head over to a friend's house and use their computer. It's cheaper, and your friend will get the songs on their itunes, too :).

CanadaRAM
Mar 23, 2005, 08:05 PM
I guess everyone has broadband then, so it's a stupid idea.
Nobody has OS9 machines that can't access iTMS, or dial up accounts anymore. Huh.

I did an install of OSX for a client on "Broadband Lite", not even dialup. This is a Cable service limited to nominal 500 MBs I think. The Apple Software Update took HOURS to download OS10.3.8 - then failed. It ended up being faster to drive home, download it and burn it to CD, drive back, and install it.

And that's on the entry level broadband. Would have been completely impossible in dialup. Given the choice, would I pay 39 cents a song to skip a half-hour dialup download? Especially if I was having to pay long distance to the ISP or on a per-minute ISP plan or satellite Internet?

D@#^ straight I would.

homerjward
Mar 23, 2005, 08:47 PM
This must be the sort of thing that idiot celebrities like Paris Hilton and Melanie Griffith use... I mean, seriously, can you see either of these nitwits actually USING a computer? That, or they pay some techie to buy their CDs, rip them, and then copy them onto an iPod.
curiously enough, one of the things on paris's to-do list found on her hacked sidekick was "buy a lap top" although i doubt she would have any idea how to use it except just turn it on.

puckhead193
Mar 23, 2005, 11:28 PM
I heard on the local fox news up in here in boston (Fox 25) that there are companies now that will take your cd's and import them on your ipod. How lazy can one be :rolleyes:

PlaceofDis
Mar 23, 2005, 11:29 PM
I heard on the local fox news up in here in boston (Fox 25) that there are companies now that will take your cd's and import them on your ipod. How lazy can one be :rolleyes:


im sure there are people out there who just dont get it and would rather pay someone to do it for them than figure it out themselves, its kinda sad but there are people that technology challenged out there :(

watcher2001
Mar 24, 2005, 12:36 AM
im sure there are people out there who just dont get it and would rather pay someone to do it for them than figure it out themselves, its kinda sad but there are people that technology challenged out there :(
I agree whole heartedly. To me upgrading ram is a simple task but to some it is akin to rocket science. That is why best buy and compusa can charge $39-$59 for what basically comes down to 5 minutes worth of work. The sad thing is that some people think it is a good deal..

puckhead193
Mar 24, 2005, 12:45 AM
I agree whole heartedly. To me upgrading ram is a simple task but to some it is akin to rocket science. That is why best buy and compusa can charge $39-$59 for what basically comes down to 5 minutes worth of work. The sad thing is that some people think it is a good deal..

I was told that if you buy a hardware from them they will install it for free... i bought a CD burner for PC back in the day; and i couldn't install it because i didn't have enough IDE cables or something so i brought it down and when i asked how much they said nuthing because i bought it from the store. All they did was disconnect the original CD rom drive and made the master :rolleyes:

tdhurst
Mar 24, 2005, 01:27 AM
What if you don't have a computer or don't have the internet? Many people may not be able to afford a computer or internet, but they may be able to purchase an ipod. The market is probably small for this, but I'm sure its there.

You have to be kidding....
Seriously, if someone has neither the computer nor the internet, whatever advice you give them...be sure to include "instead of buying an extravagant item like an iPod, SAVE UP TO BUY A COMPUTER"

bartelby
Mar 24, 2005, 01:51 AM
Really, what were you looking for? I found everything I was looking for, and not all Britney Spears I might add. :)

Shellac, Rapeman, Dozer and a lot of other stoner rock stuff.

... or who know very little about music, might want this.

Would people who know very little about music really be interested in this?
How would they choose what was put on there?

foisGras
Mar 25, 2005, 12:28 AM
Shellac, Rapeman, Dozer and a lot of other stoner rock stuff.



Would people who know very little about music really be interested in this?
How would they choose what was put on there?


i guess the pop package... ;) :D

thecow
Mar 25, 2005, 12:58 AM
My PowerBook came preloaded with a few hundred songs from Apple. I remember that there was all kinds of music on it. It even had the first 3 chapters of one of the Harry Potter books. I lost all of it when my HD died a few years ago due to my hot head brother who lost at some stupid computer game and started to beat on the palm rests and trackpad. He hasn't touched my laptop since. So did everyone get this music or was I just lucky? I got it in about mid 2001.

Nickygoat
Mar 25, 2005, 01:03 AM
Shellac, Rapeman, Dozer and a lot of other stoner rock stuff.



Would people who know very little about music really be interested in this?
How would they choose what was put on there?
They choose one of the packages - parents buying a gift for little Johnny. Or people who have no idea who to rip cds. The list is bigger than you might think ;)