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MacRumors
Jun 8, 2011, 01:22 PM
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http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/motion_5_interface-500x327.jpg

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Twitter user @BWilks2001 (http://twitter.com/#!/BWilks2001) today posted a series of screenshots (via AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/08/images_claim_to_show_apples_motion_5_final_cut_pro_x.html)) claimed to be from Apple's forthcoming Final Cut Pro X and associated Motion 5 release, potentially offering a further glimpse at what users can expect in the next-generation professional video production suite.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/fcp_x_import_preferences-500x269.jpg

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The screenshots are primarily from Motion 5 and reveal such aspects as the Project Browser, rigging functions, and color adjustment functionalities. According to the poster, a revamped version of Color (http://twitter.com/#!/BWilks2001/status/78276722478424064) is also said to be on the way, although no screenshots were provided.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/motion_5_project_browser-500x358.jpg

(http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/motion_5_project_browser.jpg)
The screenshots have since been pulled from TwitPic, with the poster claiming (http://twitter.com/#!/BWilks2001/status/78493115102674944) or at least assuming that Apple is responsible for the removal, although there appears to be no confirmation of that. The authenticity of the images has also not been verified.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/motion_5_rig-500x255.jpg

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Apple demoed Final Cut Pro X (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/13/video-of-final-cut-pro-x-introduction-now-available/) back in April at the Final Cut Pro User Group Network SuperMeet held in conjunction with the National Association of Broadcasters' NAB Show 2011 in Las Vegas. At the time, the company announced that Final Cut Pro X would launch via the Mac App Store in June priced at $299, but did not provide any details on other Final Cut Studio apps such as Motion and Color. Subsequent reports (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/13/final-cut-pro-x-demo-nowhere-near-final-version-more-on-final-cut-studio-apps-coming/) had indicated that the version of Final Cut Pro X demoed at the event was "nowhere near" the final version and that more info on other Final Cut Studio applications would be forthcoming in due time.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/motion_5_rgb_waveform.jpg

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Article Link: Leaked Screenshots From Final Cut Pro X and Motion 5? (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/08/leaked-screenshots-from-final-cut-pro-x-and-motion-5/)



PurrBall
Jun 8, 2011, 01:31 PM
The Twitter account no longer exists, so chances are these are legitimate. :)

ten-oak-druid
Jun 8, 2011, 01:33 PM
Hopefully like Lion, FC Pro will also be $29. :D

Apple could price everything at $29 and call it the i29 price plan.

osx11
Jun 8, 2011, 01:33 PM
What? You mean Apple still makes professional software. :D

iCrizzo
Jun 8, 2011, 01:34 PM
Hopefully like Lion, FC Pro will also be $29. :D

Apple could price everything at $29 and call it the i29 price plan.


You forgot a 9.. it is $299.

42streetsdown
Jun 8, 2011, 01:34 PM
woooo final cut rumors!! i can't wait to see what they do with the rest of the studio suite. still waiting on a replacement for shake though....

Ahheck01
Jun 8, 2011, 01:36 PM
Man, more news on FCPX can't come soon enough. Heck, the release can't come soon enough. I'm tired of FCP7 chugging along on a fourth of my cores and a fourth of my RAM.

I also had a clip collision that I didn't notice yesterday, and after the 30 minutes it took to fix everything when I did notice it, I wept. It's time to move on, Apple. Sooner than later, please.

notabadname
Jun 8, 2011, 01:36 PM
You forgot a 9.. it is $299.

Or is that $929 ?

marcre3363
Jun 8, 2011, 01:37 PM
That looks really nice. I've found myself leaning on After Effects more recently, but this could entice me to start using Motion again.

bpeeps
Jun 8, 2011, 01:44 PM
Do we have a specific release date? I am too antsy, excited and worried... June is way too vague for me.

Nugget
Jun 8, 2011, 01:47 PM
What a sad state of affairs for me an my wallet. My initial reaction to nearly every Apple rumor I've read recently has been exactly the same:

Hurry up Apple! When can I pay for this? I want to pay for this and use it right now!

swissmann
Jun 8, 2011, 01:47 PM
Do people even read the article they are commenting on:
"...the company announced that Final Cut Pro X would launch via the Mac App Store in June priced at $299, but did not provide any details on other Final Cut Studio apps such as Motion and Color"

I am very excited about this release. Maybe even as much as I was with version 1 or when RT rendering was introduced (I think version 3). I'm actually excited to edit again when lately I've been finding it to be a daily drag. I feel like I can spend so much more time on being creative and so much less time on the monotony and slowness of the idle computing power.

I just hope that it isn't missing features compared to what we have now. I wonder when in June it will be available?

apttap
Jun 8, 2011, 01:48 PM
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Apple has twitter in their pocket now. Expect swift takedowns like this from now on.

puckhead193
Jun 8, 2011, 01:48 PM
can't wait for the release. I just hope you have the option of buying disc. Imagine the download time with all the templates :eek:

pmasters
Jun 8, 2011, 01:48 PM
Nice! The anticipation grows. Wonder if Apple leaked these on purpose to get us talking since they haven't given us any more information since the sneak peak. Like others, I say bring it on!

drewisanapple
Jun 8, 2011, 02:00 PM
I can't wait to get this. The much more affordable state of $299 means we can expect a new generation of indecent films, which can out rank Hollywood.

(P.s. I think Apple should bring back Independant as a category on iTunes)

SeattleMoose
Jun 8, 2011, 02:11 PM
I loved what I saw a few months ago at the sneak peek.

Bring it!!!! :cool:

Soura2112
Jun 8, 2011, 02:37 PM
This is ridiculous waiting this long....I mean it's June already! Great to see something at last. If it's still a June release then why won't Apple give us some information? Also great to here Motion will be around.....I hope.

KaneBaker
Jun 8, 2011, 02:45 PM
woooo final cut rumors!! i can't wait to see what they do with the rest of the studio suite. still waiting on a replacement for shake though....

The industry moved on to Nuke. And it's so much better too.

11thIndian
Jun 8, 2011, 02:55 PM
I dont know... I think if anything the reaction since NAB has proven that a lot of people can't handle partial information. What was clearly stated as a "Sneak Peak" has been lambasted for what they DIDN'T show [existing features] versus what they did [new features and UI methodology].

I honestly think Apple's best move at this point is just to release the software to the AppStore with a large information page at apple.com. That way people can see the full feature set for themselves and have it ready and available for download.

There have been points in the last 2 months I wish they hadn't done the NAB sneak. It would have saved us all from a lot of armchair quarterbacking and FUD.

acslater017
Jun 8, 2011, 02:55 PM
Man, more news on FCPX can't come soon enough. Heck, the release can't come soon enough. I'm tired of FCP7 chugging along on a fourth of my cores and a fourth of my RAM.

I also had a clip collision that I didn't notice yesterday, and after the 30 minutes it took to fix everything when I did notice it, I wept. It's time to move on, Apple. Sooner than later, please.

:mad: I know what you mean. I've always hated some of the arcane UIs/behavior that some editing programs employ. I'm really excited for FCX - looks like it improves on nearly everything that's irked me. The process of capturing, organizing, editing, and rendering all looks so much more streamlined than before. That's a great thing, because that means more brainpower for telling your story.

Man, Final Cut X, iOS 5, Lion, iCloud...this is a great summer for Apple fans! All that and a new spaceship landing in Cupertino :D

olafurjon92
Jun 8, 2011, 02:56 PM
I'm really hoping that Motion becomes more like After Effects. Hope it's gonna turn more towards visual effects. Motion thus far has been more for motion graphics and text effects, at least in my opinion.

*LTD*
Jun 8, 2011, 02:58 PM
This is impossible. Apple's not supposed to care about Pro apps anymore, just iToys.

fxtech
Jun 8, 2011, 02:58 PM
woooo final cut rumors!! i can't wait to see what they do with the rest of the studio suite. still waiting on a replacement for shake though....

Why? Use Nuke - it's far more advanced than Shake ever was.

fxtech
Jun 8, 2011, 03:01 PM
I'm really hoping that Motion becomes more like After Effects. Hope it's gonna turn more towards visual effects. Motion thus far has been more for motion graphics and text effects, at least in my opinion.

This might be a surprise, but After Effects is also primarily used for motion graphics. There are some shops using it for post, but the vast majority of post is done in Nuke or Fusion, running on Linux.

berkut
Jun 8, 2011, 03:02 PM
woooo final cut rumors!! i can't wait to see what they do with the rest of the studio suite. still waiting on a replacement for shake though....

lol - Nuke's taken over at all the big studios and it's much better anyway!

berkut
Jun 8, 2011, 03:03 PM
This might be a surprise, but After Effects is also primarily used for motion graphics. There are some shops using it for post, but the vast majority of post is done in Nuke or Fusion, running on Linux.

Except Fusion only runs in Linux through Wine, which is crap and slow. So I highly doubt many people are doing that.

steveh
Jun 8, 2011, 03:03 PM
This is ridiculous waiting this long....I mean it's June already! Great to see something at last. If it's still a June release then why won't Apple give us some information?

They did. At the sneak peek.

It's only a couple more weeks, tops.

fxtech
Jun 8, 2011, 03:07 PM
Except Fusion only runs in Linux through Wine, which is crap and slow. So I highly doubt many people are doing that.

Really?

http://www.eyeonline.com/Web/EyeonWeb/Downloads/DownloadFusion.aspx

kirky29
Jun 8, 2011, 03:09 PM
Looking forward to Motion most!

berkut
Jun 8, 2011, 03:09 PM
Really?

http://www.eyeonline.com/Web/EyeonWeb/Downloads/DownloadFusion.aspx

Look four lines down and you'll see:

Wine 1.1.43.1 for Linux.

Fusion's interface is programmed in MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes), it's old 1990s tech.
Nuke's is written in Qt, allowing true cross-platform ability.

fxtech
Jun 8, 2011, 03:14 PM
Look four lines down and you'll see:

Wine 1.1.43.1 for Linux.

Fusion's interface is programmed in MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes), it's old 1990s tech.
Nuke's is written in Qt, allowing true cross-platform ability.

Huh - interesting. Didn't know there were problems with it though. Still, I threw in Fusion as an alternative. Nuke is the new king.

CmdrLaForge
Jun 8, 2011, 03:17 PM
First I think it is great that Apple continues working on Motion. No word until today. Now what s the price? Another $299?

And for Soundtrack and Color and Compressor ? I expect DVD SP to be gone
:eek::rolleyes::cool::p:apple:;):confused::eek:

berkut
Jun 8, 2011, 03:22 PM
Huh - interesting. Didn't know there were problems with it though. Still, I threw in Fusion as an alternative. Nuke is the new king.

There's nothing wrong with it per-se, it's just old Microsoft tech so they can't port it easily - it would pretty much be a re-write.
Nuke was written by DD with the FLTK GUI toolkit which was cross-platform, and then with Nuke 5 The Foundry moved it to Qt - Which was a fairly big (but not complete) re-write of the interface.

Fusion's technically capable of pretty much every basic thing Nuke 6.2 (Not NukeX) can do (although it hasn't got any decent retiming nodes), and Nuke 6.3 is going to close the gap on Fusion with particles and new Warpers.

Fusion's also not that flexible in VFX pipelines - Nuke's got amazing customisability through python scripting and callbacks - that's why all the big studios have gone for it - as well as the fact it's native to Linux.

thedarkhorse
Jun 8, 2011, 03:27 PM
Looking good, just upgraded my hackintosh for this. I hope motion comes out soon but I won't hold my breath for it being released alongside FCPX, hopefully not too far off though as I like my motion template integration(and expect this one to be much faster). If motion fast and powerful enough I could be using after effects less and less.

vvebsta
Jun 8, 2011, 03:37 PM
Oh my gosh, come out already!!!! It's June! Apple please don't make it a June 30th release. I have things to edit lol.

DisMyMac
Jun 8, 2011, 03:42 PM
Are they going to fix the gamma bug that makes everything dark when you play it back on a PC?

tucotuti
Jun 8, 2011, 03:55 PM
render is a background process! :D

zedsdead
Jun 8, 2011, 04:07 PM
This looks frigging awesome!

Best buy has sales on iTunes gift cards for 15% off, so you can grab $300 for about $255. Nice deal. I might pick up some since this will be on the Mac app store.

LaDirection
Jun 8, 2011, 04:26 PM
The industry moved on to Nuke. And it's so much better too.

Nuke IS Shake. Short version: Apple bought Shake, lowered the price, made it Mac only and used it's optical flow technology for smoothcam. Then, they wanted to create a new app from it that would have been just as powerful but much more user-friendly.

However, the creator of shake, who still held most of the software patterns, didn't want the app to turn into a prosumer-friendly app. Apple became stuck with a software they could not upgrade and so they killed it. Said guy left with his patent and created... Nuke.

LaDirection
Jun 8, 2011, 04:27 PM
Are they going to fix the gamma bug that makes everything dark when you play it back on a PC?

There is no such gamma bug. Adjust your Mac's gamma to 2.2, it must be around 1.8.

berkut
Jun 8, 2011, 04:37 PM
Nuke IS Shake. Short version: Apple bought Shake, lowered the price, made it Mac only and used it's optical flow technology for smoothcam. Then, they wanted to create a new app from it that would have been just as powerful but much more user-friendly.

However, the creator of shake, who still held most of the software patterns, didn't want the app to turn into a prosumer-friendly app. Apple became stuck with a software they could not upgrade and so they killed it. Said guy left with his patent and created... Nuke.

No.

Digital Domain created Nuke v1 back in 1994, but was basically just command line tools to run Flame scripts.

Nuke v2 was written in 1996 with a GUI, it was used for Titanic.

Digital Domain created the basis of what Nuke is today (a total re-write - V3) in 2000 and continually developed it until 2005 when they span off D2 software to market it. Then The Foundry took over in 2007.

Until 2005, it was in-house software for DD and hadn't been used anywhere else.

Shake was developed by Sony Imageworks in 1995, but it was completely un-related, completely separate. Nothing Real was founded in 1996 to sell the software.

Eric M
Jun 8, 2011, 04:42 PM
iNinjas strike again :)

milo
Jun 8, 2011, 04:44 PM
So what about Soundtrack Pro, probably one of the biggest dogs Apple has ever released? Is it getting a serious update? And if so, will it be available to Logic users (who have it included in the package)? I hope it finally gets to a usable state, and I don't want to have to fork out just to find out if it's worth getting or not.

lesreaper2009
Jun 8, 2011, 04:56 PM
The industry moved on to Nuke. And it's so much better too.

Hahahahahaha! Haaa-haaa-haaa-haa! Hahahahaha.. oh man! You people kill me! :D

Final Cut Pro X - $300
Adobe Premiere Pro (With After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash and Audition) w/ an Education Discount (who doesn't know somebody working in education?): $500
Nuke: $4900 for just the NLE software alone! Forget Nuke X which adds camera tracking and Furnace, which is $8000!!!

Are you people out of your mind? :p The VAST majority of users out there are going to use Adobe, Apple, or Avid because of the cost, and most small shops do too. Only large Special FX places and production houses are going to use Nuke, and many still will not use Nuke. The rest of the planet that works in this huge indsutry is going to use the lower priced NLE's which interface fine with Maya, tracking software, and color correction tools, even if Nuke is more flexible on the extreme high end.

Keep going though with that whole thing about the entire motion graphics, video, and film industry going to Nuke. I need to laugh in this business more.

grue
Jun 8, 2011, 05:11 PM
Adobe Premiere Pro (With After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash and Audition) w/ an Education Discount (who doesn't know somebody working in education?): $500

If you're a business owner and using the edu versions, you might as well save yourself the $500 and pirate it since either way you're breaking the EULA.

lesreaper2009
Jun 8, 2011, 05:26 PM
If you're a business owner and using the edu versions, you might as well save yourself the $500 and pirate it since either way you're breaking the EULA.

I am in education, but you're right, it would be breaking the EULA otherwise.

However, even if I wasn't, it's $1500 for the Production Suite (Adobe Premiere® Pro CS5.5, After Effects® CS5.5, Photoshop® CS5 Extended, Adobe Audition® CS5.5, Flash® Catalyst® CS5.5, Flash Professional CS5.5, Illustrator® CS5, Adobe OnLocation™ CS5, Encore® CS5, Device Central CS5.5, Bridge CS5, Media Encoder CS5.5) which is a heck of a lot less than $4900 for just an NLE. Plus, you can then upgrade for around $500 whenever you need to after that. It's why the "industry" will likely only have Nuke in high end boutique shops for many years.

rhett7660
Jun 8, 2011, 05:41 PM
The industry moved on to Nuke. And it's so much better too.

I am not in the "industry". Care to back this up with some stats and the "it's so much better too" statement sounds like a personal opinion rather then fact. :)

Revivalution
Jun 8, 2011, 05:49 PM
The industry moved on to Nuke. And it's so much better too.

Comparing Nuke and FCP is a little bit of a stretch. The price alone keeps this from being a real comparison. $299 against $4,900.

DisMyMac
Jun 8, 2011, 06:13 PM
There is no such gamma bug. Adjust your Mac's gamma to 2.2, it must be around 1.8.

This is actually what I meant: Fixing the QuickTime h.264 Gamma Bug (http://ahrengot.com/tutorials/fixing-quicktime-h264-gamma-bug/)

The solution seems to be switching from H.264 to x264. I'm going to try that, however I get the same problem with images when I save them to my Mac and then view them on a PC.

--------

Well I tried it... with all of the equivalent settings (without adjusting the deeper parameters that I don't understand) the results aren't as good using x264 as with H.264. It might solve the gamma issue, but there's no point if it lessens the quality.

zorinlynx
Jun 8, 2011, 06:21 PM
I'm always amused when people try to remove stuff from the Internet.

It's futile every single time, yet they keep trying.

Like banging your head on a brick wall to try to break into a bank. Why do they even bother? They should accept that once something is on the net, it's there to stay. Trying to take it down just means people will try harder to distribute it.

ekwipt
Jun 8, 2011, 06:33 PM
So what about Soundtrack Pro, probably one of the biggest dogs Apple has ever released? Is it getting a serious update? And if so, will it be available to Logic users (who have it included in the package)? I hope it finally gets to a usable state, and I don't want to have to fork out just to find out if it's worth getting or not.

I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features

candybaws
Jun 8, 2011, 06:38 PM
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jayducharme
Jun 8, 2011, 07:42 PM
Man, more news on FCPX can't come soon enough. Heck, the release can't come soon enough.

I completely agree. The current Final Cut is an antiquated mess. I was excited by the FC demo and think Apple is on the right track with this. But I wonder what took them so long to make it happen.

I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features


I'm hoping that Logic is the next pro app to get a complete rebuild. It too is showing its age.

wonderspark
Jun 8, 2011, 07:53 PM
I don't think some people know the difference between editing, compositing and modeling.

thejadedmonkey
Jun 8, 2011, 07:59 PM
I don't think some people know the difference between editing, compositing and modeling.

Help a noob out, what are the differences?

wonderspark
Jun 8, 2011, 08:08 PM
Help a noob out, what are the differences?

To put it simply, modeling is creating animated forms / images, compositing is layering different images on top of each other to build a scene, and editing is cutting the shots to tell the story.

Maya is an example of 3D modeling software, and Nuke is for compositing. Avid, Final Cut, and Premiere are used for non-linear editing (NLE). After Effects is also used for compositing and motion graphics, but not the same way Nuke and Fusion do it.

11thIndian
Jun 8, 2011, 08:31 PM
I completely agree. The current Final Cut is an antiquated mess. I was excited by the FC demo and think Apple is on the right track with this. But I wonder what took them so long to make it happen.


Things basically got sidetracked when Apple abandoned it's Carbon 64 bit initiative. The theory is FCP7 was to be 64bit, but the whole thing got canned and they had to basically start over in 2009 with cocoa and A/V Foundation. That's why FCS4 seems like such a half-hearted release-

Check out Philip Hodgett's blog- he covers this in a lot more detail.

http://www.philiphodgetts.com/category/business/apple/

He's been writing articles and tracking progress on this since '09. And he actually called the whole A/V foundation thing last fall, though he was convinced that it would mean FCPX wouldn't be able to be released until after Lion, since A/V Foundation becomes a much more core component of the OS with 10.7. But as it turns out the ProApps team was able to bundle it into FCPX itself. This was probably because it wasn't clear at that point in development how far ahead of Lion FCPX would ship.

DrivenTV
Jun 8, 2011, 09:32 PM
I wonder if FCPX will have full screen support like many of the new Lion apps...?

11thIndian
Jun 8, 2011, 10:26 PM
I wonder if FCPX will have full screen support like many of the new Lion apps...?

The NAB demo certainly showed FCPx running in a full screen mode.

Vertigo50
Jun 8, 2011, 11:16 PM
I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features

Bingo. Like it should have done from the beginning. Adding another audio app was just stupid.

Btw, I saw something that said June 9th for the release date. It seemed really fishy and unreliable, but I'm still holding out hope because I REALLY hope it's true.

aleryahL
Jun 8, 2011, 11:52 PM
Is this really true?

berkut
Jun 9, 2011, 12:56 AM
Hahahahahaha! Haaa-haaa-haaa-haa! Hahahahaha.. oh man! You people kill me! :D

Final Cut Pro X - $300
Adobe Premiere Pro (With After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash and Audition) w/ an Education Discount (who doesn't know somebody working in education?): $500
Nuke: $4900 for just the NLE software alone! Forget Nuke X which adds camera tracking and Furnace, which is $8000!!!

Are you people out of your mind? :p The VAST majority of users out there are going to use Adobe, Apple, or Avid because of the cost, and most small shops do too. Only large Special FX places and production houses are going to use Nuke, and many still will not use Nuke. The rest of the planet that works in this huge indsutry is going to use the lower priced NLE's which interface fine with Maya, tracking software, and color correction tools, even if Nuke is more flexible on the extreme high end.

Keep going though with that whole thing about the entire motion graphics, video, and film industry going to Nuke. I need to laugh in this business more.

It seems you don't know the difference between a compositor and NLE.

Nuke replaced Shake - that's what the comment said. And it did. Nowhere did the comment imply that Adobe After Effects or any of the NLEs were being replaced by Nuke.

It's obvious that if you just want motion graphics for spinning text or title screens you wouldn't use Nuke - that's not what it's designed for. It's a hard-core 2D/3D compositor, and thus it's priced as such.

Ed A.
Jun 9, 2011, 01:00 AM
I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features

That would be cool. I'm much more of a Logic Pro user than a Soundtrack Pro user. I just don't like the Soundtrack Pro UI.

marmotmammal
Jun 9, 2011, 01:11 AM
Wow, I was excited back in April about the announcement. Apple drags on too much and now I'm 100% into production, ya'know, out in the field shooting stuff, gearing up for summer under the sun and outta the suite. Maybe come autumn FCPX will be something of interest again.

jpmohr
Jun 9, 2011, 09:17 AM
I expect DVD SP to be gone

That's what I am worried about....

I need to be able to create DVDs. People always seem to say Apple is killing the DVD, but tell that to my clients who want a DVD of their Wedding video. They don't want a YouTube version....

I hope Apple comes up with something for DVDs. Anyone got any alternatives? (Compressor > Toast)? PC DVD program (ouch)? Video etched in stone (that might be kind of cool)?

pondosinatra
Jun 9, 2011, 10:00 AM
So.....all pro apps have a grey interface different from normal apps? Or just this one? At least the maximize minimize buttons are where they're supposed to be - along with their Aqua interface....:rolleyes:

Truffy
Jun 9, 2011, 10:50 AM
I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features
I do hope not. STP is useful (although not intuitive) for cleaning up audio, and it comes along for the ride in FCS. I'd rather not have to shell out extra for Garageband-on-steriods.

Truffy
Jun 9, 2011, 10:53 AM
That's what I am worried about....

I need to be able to create DVDs. People always seem to say Apple is killing the DVD, but tell that to my clients who want a DVD of their Wedding video. They don't want a YouTube version....

I hope Apple comes up with something for DVDs. Anyone got any alternatives? (Compressor > Toast)? PC DVD program (ouch)? Video etched in stone (that might be kind of cool)?
Absolutely. I think Apple's way off the mark if they assume that all video is being delivered via 'the (i)cloud'. Clients want something tangible that they can hold and pass around, not streaming video.

4God
Jun 9, 2011, 11:09 AM
I wonder if FCPX will have full screen support like many of the new Lion apps...?

Not sure, it seems you may need the menu bar for some tasks.

The NAB demo certainly showed FCPx running in a full screen mode.

Well as full screen as the current version does. I think the question is will it run in full screen like the new iPhoto in OSX Lion which does not show a menu bar (a true full screen). The FCPX demo shows a menu bar at the top thus not really the full screen that is now the hype.

Vertigo50
Jun 9, 2011, 12:35 PM
That's what I am worried about....

I need to be able to create DVDs. People always seem to say Apple is killing the DVD, but tell that to my clients who want a DVD of their Wedding video. They don't want a YouTube version....

I hope Apple comes up with something for DVDs. Anyone got any alternatives? (Compressor > Toast)? PC DVD program (ouch)? Video etched in stone (that might be kind of cool)?

I think your alternative is to just keep using your current version of DVD SP with the new version of Final Cut, assuming they don't release a new version. Your old version won't go away.

flottenheimer
Jun 9, 2011, 03:35 PM
Wonder if we will ever get a system-wide dark-GUI in OS X like this.
I was really hoping to see it in Lion. Of course it didn't happen.

caspersoong
Jun 11, 2011, 09:23 AM
I only feel sorry for the account removed.

glossywhite
Jun 19, 2011, 09:07 AM
You forgot a 9.. it is $299.

I think that humour flew right over your head :rolleyes: