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MacRumors
Jun 16, 2011, 03:07 AM
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Apple has finally launched (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/campaigns/back_to_school?mco=MjI4Nzk1Mjk) the Back to School promotion for 2011. As reported (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/15/back-to-school-to-start-tomorrow-100-app-store-gift-card-confirmed/), this year's back to school promotion offers a $100 iTunes/App Store Gift Card with the purchase of a qualifying Mac. The promotion starts today and ends on September 20, 2011.

You must be a college student, student accepted to college, parent of college student or faculty/staff at any grade level. Qualifying computers include the MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and iMac. Readers should also note that any Mac purchased now will also get OS X Lion for free (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/07/lion-up-to-date-buy-a-new-mac-now-get-lion-free-later/).

Article Link: Apple Launches 2011 Back to School Promotion (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/16/apple-launches-2011-back-to-school-promotion/)



talkingfuture
Jun 16, 2011, 03:10 AM
Also on the UK Apple store - £65 voucher.

elhungarian
Jun 16, 2011, 03:11 AM
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Sucks for those hoping for iPods. Oh well better than nothing I guess.

314631
Jun 16, 2011, 03:12 AM
This is great news for customers.

Leatherman
Jun 16, 2011, 03:14 AM
€75 is the deal here

Bergis
Jun 16, 2011, 03:19 AM
650 SEK voucher in Sweden

iphoneblack
Jun 16, 2011, 03:20 AM
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Includes 11 MBA?

freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 03:23 AM
Haha I just ordered my MacBook pro finally. I am officially an owner of a 2.2 i7 high res antiglare 2011 MbP!!! Woohoo. I think apple did this on purpose but it actually gives you an option to reject the $100 dollar iTunes gift card hahaha. "yes, I want a free $100 dollar back to school card" or "no, thanks" lol

Dekimasu
Jun 16, 2011, 03:25 AM
So if the Airs are updated in the next month or two, will the new models be included in this deal?

iphoneblack
Jun 16, 2011, 03:27 AM
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Looks like include 11" MBA :)
Hurry up and refresh the mba!! I'm ready

afd
Jun 16, 2011, 03:27 AM
Very disapointed not go get an iPod (at least my wife will be...), but glad my G5 iMac can finally be replaced. Am very sure we can find a good use for the £65, still haven't seen series 8 of 24.

Fliesen
Jun 16, 2011, 03:28 AM
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5808/screenshot20110616at102.png

i dig the 3 featured apps.

productivity, productivity, pro...crastination

C0LUMBIA
Jun 16, 2011, 03:29 AM
Haha I just ordered my MacBook pro finally. I am officially an owner of a 2.2 i7 high res antiglare 2011 MbP!!! Woohoo. I think apple did this on purpose but it actually gives you an option to reject the $100 dollar iTunes gift card hahaha. "yes, I want a free $100 dollar back to school card" or "no, thanks" lol

When it gave you the option to choose that you didn't want the card, were there a box to click that you DO want the card? I can't see it :(

Bonilla
Jun 16, 2011, 03:31 AM
finally appear, damn! yesterday June 15 was my 14 day of gettin this promo with my new MBP, I dont know if i Will be avaible for the promo at this time.
I will call in the morning an ask for it.

I will let you know, what happen.
Mac osx lion for free at least?

spoccka
Jun 16, 2011, 03:33 AM
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Well this is ****.

Jimmery
Jun 16, 2011, 03:34 AM
The terms & conditions section doesn't load for me... I wonder if the Mac mini and the 11" Air are included this time. I sure hope so.

freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 03:37 AM
When it gave you the option to choose that you didn't want the card, were there a box to click that you DO want the card? I can't see it :(

Yup... Two options. At first i thought they were going to charge me 100 for the card, but it deducts towards the end. I also ordered the free Epson Stylus NX420 All-in-One Printer.. Anyone have this printer is it any good or should i sell it? Hmmm.. now its time to see how much this damn itunes card would sell on craigslist or ebay LoL.

Items in Your Order
$100.00
1
$100.00

Back to School Card

Ships: Within 1 day of Mac Shipping
Part number: MD181LL/A
.

$2,134.00
1
$2,134.00

15-inch MacBook Pro
Ships: 1 - 3 business days
Delivers: Jun 23 - Jun 27 by Standard Shipping
Part number: Z0M1

Configuration
2.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide
Accessory Kit
.

Recycle fee
$8.00
.

$99.95
1
$99.95

Epson Stylus NX420 All-in-One Printer

Ships: within 24 hours
Delivers: Jun 18 - Jun 21 by Standard Shipping
Part number: H1411LL/A

.


Cart subtotal$2,341.95.
Free Shipping$0.00.
.
.
Estimated Tax $217.81.
Order Total$2,559.76

Looks like my MBP won't be coming until June 23! But ill be getting my printer as early as this friday. It should be the other way around!

caspersoong
Jun 16, 2011, 03:38 AM
Sucks. Especially because there is no equivalent here.

WickedPuddin
Jun 16, 2011, 03:39 AM
I don't understand... when I check out my order, it says that it added another $100 for the promotional card -.-

[EDIT]
Looks like it subtracts the price on the bottom right of the shopping cart :D

farme
Jun 16, 2011, 03:41 AM
Good Deal for Apple, since they're getting back 30% of that "discount" anyway....

iMikeT
Jun 16, 2011, 03:45 AM
Finally. Time to buy my iMac. :D

silusesMac
Jun 16, 2011, 03:51 AM
the only time that i would buy a mac is when they have this promotion going on :)

keewawa
Jun 16, 2011, 03:52 AM
Too bad this year~ I was waiting for such long time to have a free iPod Touch, but now it's gone~:mad:

ovrlrd
Jun 16, 2011, 03:57 AM
Hmm. I know this might be crazy but I wonder if Apple is going to consider dropping the iPod Touch at some point in the future. Maybe they will update it one last time this September. With the unlocked iPhones being sold now and the next iPhone being delayed until September as well, who knows what will happen.

iMikeT
Jun 16, 2011, 04:00 AM
Yup... Two options. At first i thought they were going to charge me 100 for the card, but it deducts towards the end. I also ordered the free Epson Stylus NX420 All-in-One Printer.. Anyone have this printer is it any good or should i sell it? Hmmm.. now its time to see how much this damn itunes card would sell on craigslist or ebay LoL.

Items in Your Order
$100.00
1
$100.00

Back to School Card

Ships: Within 1 day of Mac Shipping
Part number: MD181LL/A
.

$2,134.00
1
$2,134.00

15-inch MacBook Pro
Ships: 1 - 3 business days
Delivers: Jun 23 - Jun 27 by Standard Shipping
Part number: Z0M1

Configuration
2.2GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide
Accessory Kit
.

Recycle fee
$8.00
.

$99.95
1
$99.95

Epson Stylus NX420 All-in-One Printer

Ships: within 24 hours
Delivers: Jun 18 - Jun 21 by Standard Shipping
Part number: H1411LL/A

.


Cart subtotal$2,341.95.
Free Shipping$0.00.
.
.
Estimated Tax $217.81.
Order Total$2,559.76

Looks like my MBP won't be coming until June 23! But ill be getting my printer as early as this friday. It should be the other way around!


You're paying almost as much as I am for my 27" BTO iMac, with Apple Care and the printer!

NutsNGum
Jun 16, 2011, 04:04 AM
Terrible offer, frankly. I dont care what anyone says. Microsoft are offering a far greater value of product - both in terms of worth and enjoyment - in the xbox, with computers that cost far less than a Mac.

I think it's legitimate to feel somewhat let down by this.

arn
Jun 16, 2011, 04:05 AM
So Terms & Conditions posted

http://www.apple.com/promo/pdf/BTS_2011_TermsConditions_US.pdf

Mac Pro is included. Mac mini not.

They only specify by model names, so the new MacBook Airs should qualify when they are released.

arn

NutsNGum
Jun 16, 2011, 04:05 AM
Hmm. I know this might be crazy but I wonder if Apple is going to consider dropping the iPod Touch at some point in the future. Maybe they will update it one last time this September. With the unlocked iPhones being sold now and the next iPhone being delayed until September as well, who knows what will happen.

Maybe it's the fabled iPad mini being introduced.

Repo
Jun 16, 2011, 04:07 AM
So not only is Apple saving ~$130, but that $100 goes partially to developers, musicians, etc. anyway. Super greed.

freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 04:13 AM
You're paying almost as much as I am for my 27" BTO iMac, with Apple Care and the printer!

Yeah i know thats why i was waiting on the itouch deal so i can resale to atleast bring my price down. But oh well i really need the portability and power of MBP. I can always connect this baby to a monitor when i need too. I guess ill try selling this damn itunes card but im sure no one will buy it.

freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 04:17 AM
Im really dissapointed in apple for not offering anything "magical" for BTS... i mean theyre known to do this..... Give us college students some credit we advertise your products for you in front of hundreds of STUDENTS. Oh well im just happy i finally got to order my MBP.

NutsNGum
Jun 16, 2011, 04:21 AM
So not only is Apple saving ~$130, but that $100 goes partially to developers, musicians, etc. anyway. Super greed.

So when kids/students buy their games/content for their free xbox, where does that money go? Partially to developers, musicians, etc.

Repo
Jun 16, 2011, 04:22 AM
So when kids/students buy their games/content for their free xbox, where does that money go? Partially to developers, musicians, etc.

Thank you for further proving my point.

applenuub
Jun 16, 2011, 04:23 AM
So where is the offer for Apple shops in Asia? They usually have it. I know they had it in Japan with the iPod touch offer.

jvankuijk
Jun 16, 2011, 04:28 AM
I bought a MacBook last week for school. Do you think it's possible to still get the card?

Gr

Nukeman
Jun 16, 2011, 04:29 AM
Also on the UK Apple store - £65 voucher.

Is the Printer offer available in UK as well? I can't find any mention of it anywhere on UK Apple Store...

OllyW
Jun 16, 2011, 04:37 AM
I bought a MacBook last week for school. Do you think it's possible to still get the card?

Gr

No, the offer runs from 16th June to 20th September.

motoracer1486
Jun 16, 2011, 04:40 AM
I bought a MacBook last week for school. Do you think it's possible to still get the card?

Gr

If they say no, return it, and re-buy it.

cleric
Jun 16, 2011, 04:40 AM
Makes more sense to me than an iPod at least this could theoretically be used for something school related (buying office 2011).

Arby74
Jun 16, 2011, 04:41 AM
Newby from the uk so please excuse my ignorance but do we still get the free printer and if so which one? Thanks

NutsNGum
Jun 16, 2011, 04:41 AM
Thank you for further proving my point.

Eh? Not quite. My point was that MS were offering something of tactile value to the consumer, as well as to themselves.

I don't know if you've seen Apple's "Top Paid" apps on the Mac App Store, out of 12, 8 or 9 are theirs, at least in the UK, which strikes me as a bit self-serving.

Ultimately, I just feel this is a bit crap compared to previous years. You can disagree, but the facts are there, alot of people on the board are disappointed by it, some don't mind.

I would bet my life savings that most people given the choice between an iPod touch or a voucher for Mac apps, everyone would take an iPod touch.

cleric
Jun 16, 2011, 04:42 AM
If they say no, return it, and re-buy it.

After the 10% stocking fee you are probably giving up $110+ real dollars for the $100 itunes gift card.

b0rg
Jun 16, 2011, 04:43 AM
Rippoff in europe, they let us pay the dollars prices in euro's for the hardware and when it comes to gift cards we only get 75 euro instead of 100!

Diyat
Jun 16, 2011, 04:44 AM
So when it comes to pricing their products USD = EUR. But when it's for price reduction this doesn't apply??

lvlarkkoenen
Jun 16, 2011, 04:50 AM
So now all of a sudden $100 is converted to €75 at Apple? At this rate, a base iMac should cost €900 instead of €1150. I realise there's more costs involved in getting an iMac to Europe that don't apply to the gift card, but still, for Americans the gift card is 1/12 of the price of the base iMac whereas in Europe it's 1/15. In Europe, the gift card isn't enough to get iWork, while in US it is with room to spare.

Anyway, I'm in the market for a Mini, so no gift card for me anyway. But why not include a €50 or even €35 gift card?

Edit: lol @ two posters above me who posted while I was typing :D

OllyW
Jun 16, 2011, 04:50 AM
Newby from the uk so please excuse my ignorance but do we still get the free printer and if so which one? Thanks

The $100 printer rebate offer seems to be a US only deal.

MacMarf
Jun 16, 2011, 04:52 AM
Nice!

Only thing that pisses me off is that the states get a $100 gift card, and we a 75EU,- card, while exchange rates on the app store are 1:1

gnasher729
Jun 16, 2011, 04:53 AM
So when it comes to pricing their products USD = EUR. But when it's for price reduction this doesn't apply??

Get a clue. First consider that US prices don't include tax, European prices include huge amounts of tax (VAT, MwSt, whatever). Second, European prices include the cost for much higher cost of warranty due to European consumer protection laws.

Then look at prices for applications on the AppStore.

Rippoff in europe, they let us pay the dollars prices in euro's for the hardware and when it comes to gift cards we only get 75 euro instead of 100!

You can avoid the "ripped off" feeling by pressing the Cancel button and telling Apple that you don't want the gift card at all.

bananaboi
Jun 16, 2011, 04:56 AM
$100 for the Mac App Store.. Am I the only Mac user that still has NEVER bought anything from there? $100 credit in the iOS app store would've been more useful.

OllyW
Jun 16, 2011, 04:58 AM
$100 for the Mac App Store.. Am I the only Mac user that still has NEVER bought anything from there? $100 credit in the iOS app store would've been more useful.

You can use it in the iOS App Store...

and receive a $100 Back to School Card or code that can be used on the Mac App Store, the iTunes Store, the App Store, and the iBookstore

MacMarf
Jun 16, 2011, 04:59 AM
Second, European prices include the cost for much higher cost of warranty due to European consumer protection laws.

We still only get 1 year of warranty though?

motoracer1486
Jun 16, 2011, 05:04 AM
After the 10% stocking fee you are probably giving up $110+ real dollars for the $100 itunes gift card.

There is no stocking fee.

Outsiderdude26
Jun 16, 2011, 05:07 AM
After the 10% stocking fee you are probably giving up $110+ real dollars for the $100 itunes gift card.

Apple doesn't have restocking fees anymore.

sascha h-k
Jun 16, 2011, 05:12 AM
funny ...

usually apple takes 1 : 1 price between $ & €, so if a mac costs $1.999, also the €uro-price is the same.

but in promo-time they offer only € 75.00 :(

Discoverer
Jun 16, 2011, 05:14 AM
App Store credit is nice, I guess. If I get Pages '09, will I be eligible for a discount when a new version comes out?

cleric
Jun 16, 2011, 05:17 AM
Apple doesn't have restocking fees anymore.
Fancy, can't wait to see ebay flooded with itunes cards.

Lann
Jun 16, 2011, 05:18 AM
at last! woot!

Chic0
Jun 16, 2011, 05:19 AM
Guy in the promo photo looks like Gok Wan
Lol

ECUpirate44
Jun 16, 2011, 05:33 AM
After the 10% stocking fee you are probably giving up $110+ real dollars for the $100 itunes gift card.

Apple did away with restocking fees a while ago.

mindfreck
Jun 16, 2011, 05:38 AM
Does Asia Pacific have the BTS too? damn , i would prefer a iPod than the angry birds

applenuub
Jun 16, 2011, 05:44 AM
Can someone give us info on the BTS offer in Asia Pacific? Is it going to start?

skeleb
Jun 16, 2011, 05:49 AM
In Japan and Korea school year begins in April, so the campaign has ended for them. Don't know about other countries in Asia.

blackburn
Jun 16, 2011, 06:00 AM
In Portugal there is NO back to school promo.:mad:

mattwolfmatt
Jun 16, 2011, 06:07 AM
Hmm, I know this is stating the obvious, but actually this is only costing Apple $70, since they get $30 profit on the $100 spent.

It's the drug dealer model. First one is free. Then you're hooked. Nice, apple. Nice.

blackburn
Jun 16, 2011, 06:18 AM
We still only get 1 year of warranty though?

I get 2 years but that's only if you are a consumer and bought it in Portugal. And I can tell you that it get's expensive for a brand to constantly replace some products. Like when you get a clearance sale and it breaks after 1 year and a half, you sent it to warranty and it no longer exists either they give you a better model or return your money.

An example: cellphones are much affected by this since they are very prone to problems (specially software problems), Nokia for example even claims the phone was exposed to water when it wasn't just to get rid of the responsibility (even when it's a software bug!), but some people just damage their phones in the hope of getting a new one.

Another expensive example: every time my mp3 player dies (sony) they give me a brand new one and the warranty resets, so you get 2 years from the day you get the replacement. That has to be expensive.

Since Apple is very strict with warranties I don't really know (but they won't replace a product unless there's no other way and the warranty won't get extended).

einmusiker
Jun 16, 2011, 06:28 AM
lame

calb
Jun 16, 2011, 06:28 AM
App Store credit is nice, I guess. If I get Pages '09, will I be eligible for a discount when a new version comes out?
Probably. Pages '09 is listed as just 'Pages' on the Mac App Store and for the time being I can't imagine Apple complicating matters by removing the old and adding the new (because future security updates may be necessary, etc). This sort of favourable upgrade model is just a big hardware pusher for Apple.

neiltc13
Jun 16, 2011, 06:31 AM
Can't believe no one has pointed out that this might mean that they won't be launching new iPods this year. Isn't the BTS promotion usually used to clear out old stock?

MBABuyer
Jun 16, 2011, 06:34 AM
In the terms and conditions it says the macbook air is eligible.

It says nothing about a new macbook air, just that the MBA in general is eligible for back to school.

I think that the person who wrote the front page macrumors article is just assuming that a new one is coming. Apple has still said nothing about a new macbook air.

If anyone saw anything different, please tell me.

torbjoern
Jun 16, 2011, 06:34 AM
Too bad this year~ I was waiting for such long time to have a free iPod Touch, but now it's gone~:mad:
And you know what? I did not wait, and now I'm thrilled :D

It's 550 NOK in Norway, so this is probably the only time I have seen Apple use something even remotely close to the correct exchange rate... which actually is around 5.50 NOK per USD. When they sell their products in Norway, they usually charge 8.00 NOK per USD.

johnnymg
Jun 16, 2011, 06:38 AM
Can't believe no one has pointed out that this might mean that they won't be launching new iPods this year. Isn't the BTS promotion usually used to clear out old stock?

Don't overthink this move by Apple.

The app store (itunes) model of marketing is THE method for Apple to get inside the consumers wallet.

famousshots
Jun 16, 2011, 06:38 AM
When you buy a computer through the education store is there any difference in the computer or the use of it, like there is when you buy student versions of software?
Thanks

OllyW
Jun 16, 2011, 06:40 AM
When you buy a computer through the education store is there any difference in the computer or the use of it, like there is when you buy student versions of software?
Thanks

No, it's exactly the same computer.

daneoni
Jun 16, 2011, 06:40 AM
Am i the only one who thinks this is paltry? Only $100/£65 and you can't even use it towards hardware. You have to go to one of the stores and feed Apple an extra 30% :rolleyes:

Such stingy, BS marketing. Glad i've never taken this promo seriously anyway.

MBABuyer
Jun 16, 2011, 06:40 AM
In the terms and conditions it says the macbook air is eligible.

It says nothing about a new macbook air, just that the MBA in general is eligible for back to school.

I think that the person who wrote the front page macrumors article is just assuming that a new one is coming. Apple has still said nothing about a new macbook air.

If anyone saw anything different, please tell me.

BrumGB
Jun 16, 2011, 06:44 AM
Hey guys quick question what is the warranty that you get if I do not select the phone support uplift.. I've talked to an apple representative and she said I just get phone support extra..

Is this true ? If I have any problems I will be going to the apple store rather than phoning anyway ? what would I get to proove that I am a student and that I have the 3 years technical support ?

are there any hidden extras of getting the "apple care" uplift ?

Thankyou

OllyW
Jun 16, 2011, 06:47 AM
Am i the only one who thinks this is paltry? Only £65 and you can't even use it towards hardware. You have to go to one of the stores and feed Apple an extra 30% :rolleyes:

You are still getting something extra for nothing.

Think yourself lucky, us non-students have to pay full price and don't get a free £65 card. :(

Ulf1103
Jun 16, 2011, 06:48 AM
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It's better then nothing, but

It's less then 1/2 of what you get with previous BTS promotions (free iPod touch 8 gb = $ 229)
It's 44% then what you got last year.

I'm from Belgium.
Now 100$ = 70€
so an 8 gb iPod touch should cost 160€.
Unfortunately it isn't it's 239€
So we get 29% of what you get last year. :(

That's not funny.
We lose twice here :(

bennettave
Jun 16, 2011, 06:49 AM
Just ordered mine. A 27" iMac with SSD + 1TB HDD - I'm finally replacing my 1GHz TiBook. Man...that was a good machine!

HungryWolf
Jun 16, 2011, 06:50 AM
I'm disappointed but hey, that's life.

I'll be ordering from Amazon. $1140 for the entry level iMac. $100 gift card would cost me $100 in taxes if I order from the Apple Store. Kills the deal for me.

I'd suggest that anyone not making modifications to their Mac look into it as well. Less hassle for no additional benefit.

blackburn
Jun 16, 2011, 06:52 AM
You are still getting something extra for nothing.

Think yourself lucky, us non-students have to pay full price and don't get a free £65 card. :(

Get someone that can get the discount and ask them to buy it for you:D

iStudentUK
Jun 16, 2011, 07:02 AM
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Hey guys quick question what is the warranty that you get if I do not select the phone support uplift.. I've talked to an apple representative and she said I just get phone support extra..

Is this true ? If I have any problems I will be going to the apple store rather than phoning anyway ? what would I get to proove that I am a student and that I have the 3 years technical support ?

are there any hidden extras of getting the "apple care" uplift ?

Thankyou

UK (Note that! UK ONLY!) uni students get a 3 year warranty and 1 year phone supper for free if they buy online or on the phone. But NOT if they buy in store.

The uplift gives you AppleCare, which basically is just upping the free warranty to include 3 years phone support. There is some question of whether the free warranty is international or transferrable- it isn't quite clear.

You can still phone Apple to arrange collection, you don't have to go in store. They just wont give you software help on the phone. You don't need student ID if there is an issue. You only have to be a student when you buy the Mac, when you graduate the warranty is still valid. All Apple will do is check the serial number if there is a problem.

Details here- http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1103022

coolspot18
Jun 16, 2011, 07:11 AM
New iMac arrived Tuesday the 15th, you think I can still qualify for BTS by calling in?

Thanks.

jygsawpuzzle
Jun 16, 2011, 07:16 AM
glad I saved my money and bought a 2011 13 inch MBP refurb instead. I'd rather use the 100 dollars on something else and not restrict myself to Apple related software. :)

kenypowa
Jun 16, 2011, 07:18 AM
Can't believe no one has pointed out that this might mean that they won't be launching new iPods this year. Isn't the BTS promotion usually used to clear out old stock?

Thats a good point. New iPod Touch is usually released 3 months after the new iPhone comes out. If iPhone 4S is out in Sept or Oct, then very likely we won't see a new iPod Touch in 2011.

alent1234
Jun 16, 2011, 07:22 AM
Can't believe no one has pointed out that this might mean that they won't be launching new iPods this year. Isn't the BTS promotion usually used to clear out old stock?



most likely not

studies have shown that most people spend more than the value of the gift card so instead of giving you a discounted ipod apple will probably make more money overall as people buy books and software. with the new video editing tools coming out soon, i don't think its a coincidence

Markisss88
Jun 16, 2011, 07:22 AM
Meh say what you want it still sux for the people who were waiting for a good back to school deal. But hey i guess something is better than nothing.

Rudy69
Jun 16, 2011, 07:37 AM
Kinda lame that they cut the discount by about 50% :/

h2oskier09
Jun 16, 2011, 07:39 AM
I have to say that I'm quite disappointed by Apple's decision to change from the iPod Touch to the Gift Card. The base model iPod was the college student's free entry into the world of iOS, and clearly leads to purchase of other iOS product down the road (iPhone, iPad). I can safely say that when I purchased my MBP two years ago and received the free iPod Touch, it greatly influenced my decision to purchase the iPhone 4. Also, by distributing free iPod Touches you are placing two devices into the hands of the college student that require apps rather than one. The gift card only means that you're selling apps that would have been purchased anyway, had an iPod been given away. Unfortunately, I think that the loss in locking college students into iOS devices will prove to be much greater loss in the long run than the loss of an additional $120 per student Mac purchase from June to September. They also forget that this promo doesn't apply to everyone, students are a PERCENTAGE of the market, and the offer is only good for three months. And now, Microsoft (who pretty much copied the iPod promo with their XBox) now looks like even more bang for the buck to students who may have been considering their first Mac purchase. All in all, a poor business decision for Apple. I think this is a case where the iPod giveaway was a means of investing into future business with your consumers, rather than locking in $100 of business with a gift card.

theman123
Jun 16, 2011, 07:40 AM
The main reason this sucks is because of what Microsoft is doing. They give away a free gaming system, while we get a gift card. Not even an Apple gift card, an App Store gift card.

Can we still get the printer?

Sirmausalot
Jun 16, 2011, 07:43 AM
The printer is actually a crap deal too as the printer manufacturers make their money off the ink. After printing a few pages, you're in for 50-75 worth of ink. And gift cards will go largely to Apple apps. Shame it's not the iPod which I've gotten for the past 3 computers.

NStocks
Jun 16, 2011, 07:46 AM
The main reason this sucks is because of what Microsoft is doing. They give away a free gaming system, while we get a gift card. Not even an Apple gift card, an App Store gift card.

Can we still get the printer?

US students can, UK student dcannot :( Kinda unfair really. Again, they were running it in the UK last year with the BTS promotion.

At least us UK students get more discount . I'm not complaining about it really. Should get £45 on eBay for the voucher.

maflynn
Jun 16, 2011, 07:46 AM
I think I echo many of the other posters. I'm just disappointed in apple with the gift card.

I mean its not about competing against the Xbox/PC deal but in contrast to that it looks incredibly cheap. To me its like apple is resting on its laurels and thinking that Macs now sells themselves. True Mac sales have been going up but that doesn't mean they should start cheaping out.

FloatingBones
Jun 16, 2011, 07:52 AM
Since MS has never put MS Office or the individual apps in the MAS, this could have a significant impact on Office sales.

IMHO, I think that Scrivener is a far better tool for researching and writing school papers than Word. Apple's Numbers should fill the bill for spreadsheet crunching. For presentations, Keynote is superior to Powerpoint. Those three tools can be purchased on the $100 in the BTS program.

Kirsten Hollerd
Jun 16, 2011, 07:52 AM
Meh say what you want it still sux for the people who were waiting for a good back to school deal. But hey i guess something is better than nothing.

^this.

Why are so many people accusing Apple of "ripping them off" with this promo? I'm getting $100 off my 13" MBP, $66 off AppleCare, a free $100 HP wireless printer and a free $100 App Store GC (going to grab Pages and Numbers) and this is somehow an injustice of some sort...?

CrzyCanuck72
Jun 16, 2011, 07:53 AM
I have to say that I'm quite disappointed by Apple's decision to change from the iPod Touch to the Gift Card. The base model iPod was the college student's free entry into the world of iOS, and clearly leads to purchase of other iOS product down the road (iPhone, iPad). I can safely say that when I purchased my MBP two years ago and received the free iPod Touch, it greatly influenced my decision to purchase the iPhone 4. Also, by distributing free iPod Touches you are placing two devices into the hands of the college student that require apps rather than one. The gift card only means that you're selling apps that would have been purchased anyway, had an iPod been given away. Unfortunately, I think that the loss in locking college students into iOS devices will prove to be much greater loss in the long run than the loss of an additional $120 per student Mac purchase from June to September. They also forget that this promo doesn't apply to everyone, students are a PERCENTAGE of the market, and the offer is only good for three months. And now, Microsoft (who pretty much copied the iPod promo with their XBox) now looks like even more bang for the buck to students who may have been considering their first Mac purchase. All in all, a poor business decision for Apple. I think this is a case where the iPod giveaway was a means of investing into future business with your consumers, rather than locking in $100 of business with a gift card.

+1 - good analysis. What little Apple lost on giving out free iPod Touches, they made up in continuous app and music sales for those devices. I don't think any students are going to get "hooked" on the Mac App store through this $100 gift card. They'll spend their $100 then go right back to either not buying software at all, or pirating the software they really need. There's no room for future growth. Bad move all around.

FloatingBones
Jun 16, 2011, 08:06 AM
Hmm, I know this is stating the obvious, but actually this is only costing Apple $70, since they get $30 profit on the $100 spent.

All retailers mark up what they sell. The difference with the MAS is that the markup is far more transparent than most retail operations. In essence, you're complaining about the transparency of the MAS operation.

BTW: there are definitely expenses in retailing MAS software: marketing, customer support, computers to host the service, bandwidth to deliver software, credit card fees, etc. Apple does its best to minimize those costs, but they are most certainly not zero.

jonnysods
Jun 16, 2011, 08:07 AM
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No floods of iPods on the marketplace then?

Trying to push everyone into getting used to interacting with the app store. Very clever.

No regrets on buying my comp in late May now.

MrXiro
Jun 16, 2011, 08:09 AM
I'm glad I bought my last gen MBA for 200 bucks off from Amazon. Saved nearly $300 since there was no tax and CA recycle fee tacked on.

I was kind of banging my head about not getting the free iPod... but this new BTS offer cinches my decision. I came out with the better deal. :)

ESPN
Jun 16, 2011, 08:09 AM
^this.

Why are so many people accusing Apple of "ripping them off" with this promo? I'm getting $100 off my 13" MBP, $66 off AppleCare, a free $100 HP wireless printer and a free $100 App Store GC (going to grab Pages and Numbers) and this is somehow an injustice of some sort...?

Macs are expensive so it is a good deal when in previous years, student discount and selling of the (complementary)ipod touch can reduce the cost.

This year with Apple changing their ipod touch giveaway to a giftcard is already a bad deal. And Windows 7 computers get an Xbox for 699$ or 799$ while macs run northwards of 1000$.

This is a bad gamble by Apple, it was the ipod touches that drove their mac sales in previous years,but i cansee that number sharply declining.


For those of you who says Apple doesn't have to provide anything as a gift.

They don't but their offer will be less attractive and their sales would drop.

22Hertz
Jun 16, 2011, 08:13 AM
Lame promotion

redshovel
Jun 16, 2011, 08:13 AM
I have to say that I'm quite disappointed by Apple's decision to change from the iPod Touch to the Gift Card. The base model iPod was the college student's free entry into the world of iOS, and clearly leads to purchase of other iOS product down the road (iPhone, iPad). I can safely say that when I purchased my MBP two years ago and received the free iPod Touch, it greatly influenced my decision to purchase the iPhone 4. Also, by distributing free iPod Touches you are placing two devices into the hands of the college student that require apps rather than one. The gift card only means that you're selling apps that would have been purchased anyway, had an iPod been given away. Unfortunately, I think that the loss in locking college students into iOS devices will prove to be much greater loss in the long run than the loss of an additional $120 per student Mac purchase from June to September. They also forget that this promo doesn't apply to everyone, students are a PERCENTAGE of the market, and the offer is only good for three months. And now, Microsoft (who pretty much copied the iPod promo with their XBox) now looks like even more bang for the buck to students who may have been considering their first Mac purchase. All in all, a poor business decision for Apple. I think this is a case where the iPod giveaway was a means of investing into future business with your consumers, rather than locking in $100 of business with a gift card.

Agree with points made. A disappointing decision by Apple.

Guini
Jun 16, 2011, 08:15 AM
So no free iPod and no free printer? I've waited for nothing then, basically :mad:

(from UK)

merkinmuffley
Jun 16, 2011, 08:16 AM
what a deal! buy something from us and we'll give you $100 you can give back to us. Yow!

AgRacer
Jun 16, 2011, 08:18 AM
The BTS deal was only marginally good with the free iPod touch.

Now that it's only $100 at the Ap Store (meaning no music or movies?) it's not worth it at all.

Just look at freddiculous's purchase if he got it at B&H Photo

2.2 Core I7 MacBook Pro $2043.88
Epson Printer $65 (same model)
Tax $0
Ship $0

Total 2108.65

He spent $451 for a $100 Ap Store gift card.

NStocks
Jun 16, 2011, 08:19 AM
I've just added a mac to the basket using the "any school or university" link to get education discount. Under "promotions" on the same page as configuration, there is a list of printer...

All seem to be quite expensive, but none have discount :s/ Why would it be under "promotion" if there isn't discount.

Macboy Pro
Jun 16, 2011, 08:22 AM
Better than nothing, barely.... HUGE step down from free iPods of the past. Jobs is getting greedier.... You have to use the "MAC APP STORE"

C0LUMBIA
Jun 16, 2011, 08:31 AM
So no free iPod and no free printer? I've waited for nothing then, basically :mad:

(from UK)

We didn't get the free iPod touch before. It was £130 towards an iPod touch and the printer deal isn't the same with us either. However we do get 3 years warranty which is excellent, a larger discount on macs and I feel that the iTunes voucher is fine. It's always good to have spare credits for odd stuff.

puckhead193
Jun 16, 2011, 08:35 AM
now would you have rather a free ipod touch or this $100 voucher?
IMO i would rather have liked the ipod touch. O well i guess there is always SOMETHING to buy (ie Lion)

67bmer
Jun 16, 2011, 08:37 AM
Lame!!!

I cant believe that one has to go all the way to the end to find anyone that thinks the promo sucks....

Although as an AAPL shareholder, I LOVE it! They are basically giving nothing away. With an ipod they are giving something that has to be designed and manufactured and shipped away.

mikeytwice
Jun 16, 2011, 08:37 AM
Wow... glad I didn't wait for this... haha!

anonmars
Jun 16, 2011, 08:37 AM
Lame. Windows 7 really is decent and at least MS office doesn't suck on Windows (unlike the Crapple version). Oh well, I guess it's time to ditch Apple and switch back to Microsoft and grab myself a free xbox 360!

At least Microsoft came through since Apple decided to stink it up.

antifeik
Jun 16, 2011, 08:39 AM
bah!!!

Ijustfarted
Jun 16, 2011, 08:39 AM
Lame as hell. Boooo apple :p

rwh63
Jun 16, 2011, 08:42 AM
isnooze

shanmugam
Jun 16, 2011, 08:44 AM
it is going to be even more lame when you buy MBA now and it is going to be refreshed in two weeks

where is the new white mac books? what is the hold up?

rwh63
Jun 16, 2011, 08:44 AM
apple must be pinching pennies to build their spaceship HQ.

Ubuntu
Jun 16, 2011, 08:48 AM
now would you have rather a free ipod touch or this $100 voucher?
IMO i would rather have liked the ipod touch. O well i guess there is always SOMETHING to buy (ie Lion)

Nope. As you'd be buying a new mac it would be eligible for a free upgrade to Lion when it comes out. Just buy Angry Birds. Many times.

shanmugam
Jun 16, 2011, 08:51 AM
I thought some time back, we can buy iPods in the iTunes store? :confused:

may be no longer now ... i could be wrong here

bpaluzzi
Jun 16, 2011, 08:52 AM
This is a bad gamble by Apple, it was the ipod touches that drove their mac sales in previous years,but i cansee that number sharply declining.


Are you serious? You are, aren't you. Wow.

OllyW
Jun 16, 2011, 08:54 AM
Now that it's only $100 at the Ap Store (meaning no music or movies?) it's not worth it at all.

You can use it to buy apps, music, video or iBooks.

http://www.apple.com/promo/pdf/BTS_2011_TermsConditions_US.pdf

radiogoober
Jun 16, 2011, 09:00 AM
Macs are expensive so it is a good deal when in previous years, student discount and selling of the (complementary)ipod touch can reduce the cost.

This year with Apple changing their ipod touch giveaway to a giftcard is already a bad deal. And Windows 7 computers get an Xbox for 699$ or 799$ while macs run northwards of 1000$.

This is a bad gamble by Apple, it was the ipod touches that drove their mac sales in previous years,but i cansee that number sharply declining.


For those of you who says Apple doesn't have to provide anything as a gift.

They don't but their offer will be less attractive and their sales would drop.

I really worry about the future of our country when people say that Apple giving them a free $100 gift card is a bad deal. It just makes everybody sound so spoiled. Like you deserve free crap. Newsflash: You don't deserve anything. You aren't special.

Let's not forget: iCloud is free. Holy crap! Lion is only $30 (compare that to Windows major OS upgrades...) All iOS updates are free. Apple gives away SO MUCH STUFF, and they are not giving you a free $100 to the App stores if you buy something. That's a damn good deal!

No one is being "driven" to Windows by Apple's FREE $100 back to school promo. lol.

GizmoDVD
Jun 16, 2011, 09:02 AM
Wow, lame deal. Time to buy from Amazon where it will no doubt be cheaper thanks to no tax.

Apple - finding ways for me not to buy from them since 2006.

ABernardoJr
Jun 16, 2011, 09:03 AM
Lame. Windows 7 really is decent and at least MS office doesn't suck on Windows (unlike the Crapple version). Oh well, I guess it's time to ditch Apple and switch back to Microsoft and grab myself a free xbox 360!

At least Microsoft came through since Apple decided to stink it up.

lol So MS decides to offer an xbox for one year after offering nothing like that before, while Apple offers a $100 card after having a strong B2S history and you switch because MS has the greatest thing since sliced bread. Good riddance, people like you are ridiculous. Like others said, if an iPod touch is a deal breaker then you probably didn't want a Mac in the first place.

GizmoDVD
Jun 16, 2011, 09:05 AM
I really worry about the future of our country when people say that Apple giving them a free $100 gift card is a bad deal. It just makes everybody sound so spoiled. Like you deserve free crap. Newsflash: You don't deserve anything. You aren't special.

Let's not forget: iCloud is free. Holy crap! Lion is only $30 (compare that to Windows major OS upgrades...) All iOS updates are free. Apple gives away SO MUCH STUFF, and they are not giving you a free $100 to the App stores if you buy something. That's a damn good deal!

No one is being "driven" to Windows by Apple's FREE $100 back to school promo. lol.

....or buy a Windows machine for $700 and get a free Xbox. They've been doing free iPods from a decade now. Apple lost my business. I'll go to Amazon. $100 silly gift card. What a joke.

charlituna
Jun 16, 2011, 09:09 AM
Sucks for those hoping for iPods. Oh well better than nothing I guess.

More like sucks for the store staff that have to deal with the pissed off customers that feel they are entitled to that free ipod touch or something of equal value and that Apple can't stop doing the promo that way now that they started it.

mrdctaylor
Jun 16, 2011, 09:15 AM
Why would anyone order from Apple and not Amazon with this lame giveaway? I don't get it. The fact that Amazon doesn't charge sales tax more than makes up for it. I guess if you wanted to customize it from the Apple store...but still.

jclardy
Jun 16, 2011, 09:18 AM
The BTS deal was only marginally good with the free iPod touch.

Now that it's only $100 at the Ap Store (meaning no music or movies?) it's not worth it at all.

Just look at freddiculous's purchase if he got it at B&H Photo

2.2 Core I7 MacBook Pro $2043.88
Epson Printer $65 (same model)
Tax $0
Ship $0

Total 2108.65

He spent $451 for a $100 Ap Store gift card.

Not really, B&H doesn't sell the MBP with the high res anti-glare screen which is a $129 (with student discount, $150 otherwise) BTO option. So if we add that you get $2258.65 as your total.

Also whether it is tax free depends on what state he is in. If he lives in NY it is not because B&H is located there. And most other states collect "use" taxes which is supposed to include internet purchases. They have no way of telling what you bought on the internet so most people just don't pay them.

Still probably cheaper on B&H, but then you don't get the computer you are trying to buy...which you should when spending over two thousand dollars.

maclaptop
Jun 16, 2011, 09:21 AM
Apple's Mouthpiece Does It Again...

"To the dismay of much of the class of 2011, Apple has dropped the popular loss leader in the promotion that launched Thursday on its online store. Instead, it offers the usual 10% discount on a Mac and a $100 gift card that can be used at the Mac App Store, the iOS App Store, the iTunes Store or Apple's iBookstore. Heavily promoted: Apple's iWork software suite -- Pages, Numbers and Keynote.

Too bad the $100 can't be used for Microsoft (MSFT) Office, which for better or worse is still the standard at most colleges and universities."

Apple hypocrisy at it's finest once again. It's like parents giving their kid money with strings attached.

Uncle Steve gives one hundred bucks but the says you can only use it if you spend it on his products.

What an ASS!


http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/16/apples-back-to-school-promo-no-more-free-ipod-touch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+fortunebrainstormtech+%28Fortune+Brainstorm+Tech%29

g4cubed
Jun 16, 2011, 09:21 AM
Not thrilled with the promo but want gives on the discounts. $200 off top MBP, as usual, but the top imacs are only $100. :confused:

CFoss
Jun 16, 2011, 09:21 AM
I see people are claiming that students shouldn't be disappointed, as Apple is still giving them something extra which they should be grateful for. I suppose they should grateful... but a $100 voucher is absolutely nothing compared to a $250 iPod Touch that Apple has given out in previous years. It's disappointing to those who were anticipating the same iPod that previous students have received, and it ESPECIALLY hurts when Microsoft has stepped UP their game by giving out a free Xbox 360 with their computers.

Fainer
Jun 16, 2011, 09:22 AM
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Going with a friend today to buy a new MacBook. He just graduated from homeschool and will be attending a local community college in the Fall. Will he need to show a student ID or something (which he does not have yet) to get the gift card?

Sixtafoua
Jun 16, 2011, 09:23 AM
I like how the "back to school" promotion starts on my last day of school.

charlituna
Jun 16, 2011, 09:24 AM
Can't believe no one has pointed out that this might mean that they won't be launching new iPods this year. Isn't the BTS promotion usually used to clear out old stock?

Dropping this promo doesn't equal a lack of new anything

it could be (one or several)

1. Apple just decided to mix things up a bit and push the App Store etc
2 Apple decided they don't need the gimmick to sell their computers
3. Apple is tired of seeing the ipods on ebay etc
4. they don't have the massive stock due to the Japan earthquake shutting down factories that make needed parts

NAG
Jun 16, 2011, 09:30 AM
I think I'd be okay with this if they also updated the hardware. Or just update the hardware.

XR4TI
Jun 16, 2011, 09:34 AM
Bought my MBP yesterday from BB and found the ctrl key is loose and pops up. annoying! Returning it today and the sales associate told me that they are not sure yet if corporate is going to give them the green light to match the BTS promo. I told him that it will be the difference of me returning and going to Apple store or exchanging with the $100. Just thought I'd share.

ReddDraggon
Jun 16, 2011, 09:35 AM
However we do get 3 years warranty which is excellent, a larger discount on macs...

We might get a larger %age discount off the UK RRP compared to US students off the US RRP, but it our discounted price costs us more than the US RRP, which is a right rip off.

jojopopo23
Jun 16, 2011, 09:41 AM
So i bought my Macbook Pro last evening (couldn't wait anymore and turns out all i had to do was wait 12 more hours lol)....

I've been reading the forums and I guess i can return it and then rebuy it to get the gift card?

Are they gonna make me lug my macbook and printer in there that i bought or do you think i can just bring in my receipt?

mdntcallr
Jun 16, 2011, 09:45 AM
Thank you for further proving my point.

i dont understand why your point is even an issue, for $70 of the promotional $$ to head to artists, songwriters, book writers, app developers or more... is a non-issue to me.

the bigger issue is that Apple chose to decrease their promotion from years prior. instead of a value of up to $200, Apple is giving consumers a much cheaper add on. it essentially only costs them $70 to third parties. Maybe an ipod only cost them a similar amount to make and ship, i dont know.

but to consumers when Microsoft is giving away xbox 360's worth $200, a $100 app / itunes store credit isn't worth as much.

gorcman
Jun 16, 2011, 09:49 AM
I wouldn't mind the Mac App store gift card if there were any actual useful apps I would buy. The closest thing for me would be aperture 3, but I already have it.

ReddDraggon
Jun 16, 2011, 09:50 AM
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk/Images/banner-bts2011-chalk-board.png

Epic Xbox Revie
Jun 16, 2011, 09:51 AM
I think this should have been a $200 card... Glad I didn't wait. Bought mine 3 or so weeks ago and got a much better deal than this is. Better luck next time to those who waited! :rolleyes:

charpi
Jun 16, 2011, 09:58 AM
Weird, our online stores do not have the promo yet (Singapore).

Is the 11" MBA included?

spcdust
Jun 16, 2011, 09:59 AM
Being one of many who were waiting for the BTS 2011 promotion to feauture the free iPod I can go some way in empathising with those who are disappointed. What I can't abide is this sense of entitlement and resentment many posters are demonstrating in response to this years BTS promotion. Sure, a free iPod would have been nice but at no point did Apple promise this - our waiting game was based purely on looking at what had gone before. It was also our choice to hold out for the deal so consider it a gamble that didn't quite pay the dividend you hoped for but hey, you still win as you pick up a £65.00 / $100 voucher, along with a discounted price on your computer, a huge discount on Applecare (good for resale value) and a free printer (US only).

I mean, really - what's it coming to when individuals bemoan being given free stuff - be grateful you have enough money to buy these luxury electronic goods and get some perspective.

Objector
Jun 16, 2011, 10:01 AM
I've also been waiting for so long for the BTS-action to kick in and now I have finally ordered my iMac. I was really looking forward to get a free iPod classic, so I could give my touch to my mother. So she is actually more disappointed then me.

Nevertheless I am glad I waited, because free is free.

mikeytwice
Jun 16, 2011, 10:01 AM
I really worry about the future of our country when people say that Apple giving them a free $100 gift card is a bad deal. It just makes everybody sound so spoiled. Like you deserve free crap. Newsflash: You don't deserve anything. You aren't special.


The "future of our country"? A bit hyperbolic, no?

It's still a better deal than nothing, of course, but it sucks a bit for those people who were waiting out for months till the promo dropped.

Repo
Jun 16, 2011, 10:02 AM
Eh? Not quite. My point was that MS were offering something of tactile value to the consumer, as well as to themselves.

I don't know if you've seen Apple's "Top Paid" apps on the Mac App Store, out of 12, 8 or 9 are theirs, at least in the UK, which strikes me as a bit self-serving.

Ultimately, I just feel this is a bit crap compared to previous years. You can disagree, but the facts are there, alot of people on the board are disappointed by it, some don't mind.

I would bet my life savings that most people given the choice between an iPod touch or a voucher for Mac apps, everyone would take an iPod touch.

Thank you, again, for continuing the further prove my point.

kaiulani
Jun 16, 2011, 10:07 AM
After more than 30 years of using exclusively Apple products and raising my family on them, we will have to be buying 3 pcs (yecch) instead of the 3 macbook pros we had been intending to buy when Apple did its normal ipod promo. We do not need or want anything form the app store so this promo is useless to us and the competition's back to school offer is just too great. If only we could use the $100 coupon towards ipods, Apple would not be losing 3 good lifetime customers. More actually, because we all like to be compatible on our platforms and the rest of us will be migrating eventually too.

spcdust
Jun 16, 2011, 10:11 AM
After more than 30 years of using exclusively Apple products and raising my family on them, we will have to be buying 3 pcs (yecch) instead of the 3 macbook pros we had been intending to buy when Apple did its normal ipod promo. We do not need or want anything form the app store so this promo is useless to us and the competition's back to school offer is just too great. If only we could use the $100 coupon towards ipods, Apple would not be losing 3 good lifetime customers. More actually, because we all like to be compatible on our platforms and the rest of us will be migrating eventually too.

So after all these years of being such a loyal Apple user you'll now switch everyone over to Windows on the strength of this promotion not being to your liking. Yeah of course you will and if you really are then four words for you.....

Good luck with that.

zipster
Jun 16, 2011, 10:16 AM
That sucks. I'd rather get an iPod.

indiebass
Jun 16, 2011, 10:20 AM
I will be returning to school this Summer. It's been 10 years since I was a student, and I will need to upgrade all of my hardware (I have an old yet still functioning, at the moment, MacBook) and have been waiting for the Sandy Bridge Macbook Air to come out, and for the Back to School promotion.

For me, as an older student who will be doing intensive research and demanding a lot from my hardware, an iTunes gift card is practically useless. For grad school, I need good equipment, not music/games. A discount on an iPad would have been ideal, allowing me to use the iPad and laptop in tandem for presentations, showing others how seamlessly Apple products work together AND getting me used to using iOS and using a tablet so when I graduate, I would already have the skills to use them effectively AND it would encourage me to go out and buy the newest, latest and greatest on my own and at full price as I reenter the workforce.

I know that what's done is done, as far as the back to school promotion is concerned, but this is a HUGE missed opportunity for Apple. And whether you think it's fair or not, they've established certain expectations with this promotion in the past, and a huge change like this *of course* will make make people sad and angry. I don't think it's about a sense of entitlement among students, but Apple certainly doesn't help itself by keeping these things so secret and not managing expectations.

And some of you have said: "if you're dropping $2,000 on a computer, the $100 difference in the promotion shouldn't make a big difference". I'm here to tell you that, at least in my case, it does. That extra hundred dollars is the difference in the size of the hard drive, or the processor, the optical drive or any number of decisions when putting the computer together. What will probably happen to me is that I'll no longer be able to budget in AppleCare, which is a real shame. For some of us who are students, that little extra makes a huge difference.

I'm not one of those people who will say "I'm not getting a Mac because of this new promotion". I've been a loyal Mac user since way before many of this forum's members were born. But with the lack of incentives this year, and a competitive marketplace, I'll certainly be looking at other tablets to see if they can offer me a product at a price point that I'm able to live with.

hayesk
Jun 16, 2011, 10:20 AM
Apple hypocrisy at it's finest once again. It's like parents giving their kid money with strings attached.

Uncle Steve gives one hundred bucks but the says you can only use it if you spend it on his products.

What an ASS!

www.whitewhine.com

RCGMac
Jun 16, 2011, 10:21 AM
I am wondering how many people on here complaining about this promo are actually students. I wish Apple would make it a bit more work to actually prove you are a student. I think a lot of people abuse the student discount and Apple knows this, hence why you no longer see discounts on iPods and other things.

It is 2011, how many students don't have an iOS product? Apple has seen that many people just turn right around and sell the BTS iPod online afterward, hence causing Apple to lose a sale.

I like that the free giftcard can be used in any of Apple's content stores, including the iBookstore. Sure, the lack of a free iPod is disappointing, but I think most people could get some decent usage out of the free card, or just sell the card online for $70-$75.

Still the best deal is Amazon if you aren't wanting to customize anything...

Mlrollin91
Jun 16, 2011, 10:21 AM
Can't believe no one has pointed out that this might mean that they won't be launching new iPods this year. Isn't the BTS promotion usually used to clear out old stock?

I thought that two days ago and when I saw the end date of Sept. 20th I figured we wont have an early Sept media event. The promotion is to clear out old stock, I think this whole iPhone 5 being delayed has really screwed up the usual cycle.

gorcman
Jun 16, 2011, 10:22 AM
After more than 30 years of using exclusively Apple products and raising my family on them, we will have to be buying 3 pcs (yecch) instead of the 3 macbook pros we had been intending to buy when Apple did its normal ipod promo. We do not need or want anything form the app store so this promo is useless to us and the competition's back to school offer is just too great. If only we could use the $100 coupon towards ipods, Apple would not be losing 3 good lifetime customers. More actually, because we all like to be compatible on our platforms and the rest of us will be migrating eventually too.

So, not getting an a free ipod touch is enough to sway you away from 30 years of Apple loyalty? I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but isn't that a bit of an overreaction?

I understand this promo isn't as good as last year's, but then again, I never really found much value in them anyways. I bought my Macbook last summer from amazon instead of from the Apple store because, to me, saving on tax and the 5% off or so Amazon usually has, was greater in value than having to deal with the hassle of MIR for a product that has no purpose for someone with an iPhone already. Sure, I could resell the iPod touch they offered at the time, but IMO, it's too much hassle to come up maybe $50 ahead than if I had just bought from Amazon in the first place.

ldellx3
Jun 16, 2011, 10:23 AM
hi so i bought my macbook pro last saturday soo does this mean i can get this deal?

radiohed
Jun 16, 2011, 10:24 AM
After doing the BTS ipod promo for a few years, I can understand why people thought it would be coming again this year. But, at some point, it was bound to end. I can understand people being disappointed :(, but to be angry about it is a bit extreme. Apple is still giving a student discount, a free itunes card, and a free printer so you can't bitch. If people want to switch to a PC because of it, just to get a free xbox, let them. It would take a hell of a lot more than not getting a free ipod to make me switch to windows! :eek:

RCGMac
Jun 16, 2011, 10:25 AM
And some of you have said: "if you're dropping $2,000 on a computer, the $100 difference in the promotion shouldn't make a big difference". I'm here to tell you that, at least in my case, it does. That extra hundred dollars is the difference in the size of the hard drive, or the processor, the optical drive or any number of decisions when putting the computer together. What will probably happen to me is that I'll no longer be able to budget in AppleCare, which is a real shame. For some of us who are students, that little extra makes a huge difference.



The frustration is understanding, but I don't think we would have seen any discounts on iPads this year, the demand is still too high for them. In regards to your concern for AppleCare a few things to remember; you have one year to purchase AppleCare and Amazon is usually cheaper for AppleCare. Congrats and good luck with going back to school.

bigp9998
Jun 16, 2011, 10:26 AM
Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase a MacBook Pro from MacMall or Amazon due to lower prices and no tax, and then to buy AppleCare in an Apple Store with the EDU discount? Would be the best option for me at this point...

Aviboy97
Jun 16, 2011, 10:29 AM
Terrible offer, frankly. I dont care what anyone says. Microsoft are offering a far greater value of product - both in terms of worth and enjoyment - in the xbox, with computers that cost far less than a Mac.

I think it's legitimate to feel somewhat let down by this.

Microsoft is not a greater value. By offering an XBox they are trying to make up for the fact that Apple offers a better OS, UI and better hardware.

That being said, Microsoft is not stupid. With all the buzz around Apple's new OS X Lion, new MBP, MBA and iMac, they had to do SOMETHING to generate a buzz. Afterall, W7 is over a year and a half old. The PC market is stagnent and Apple's computer sales keep rising. I'm not saying Mac sales will trump PC sales, however, the younger generation has less tollerance for technology that does not work right, which Windows OS's are notorious for. More people are willing to jump to Apple than ever before.

DavidG328
Jun 16, 2011, 10:30 AM
^this.

Why are so many people accusing Apple of "ripping them off" with this promo? I'm getting $100 off my 13" MBP, $66 off AppleCare, a free $100 HP wireless printer and a free $100 App Store GC (going to grab Pages and Numbers) and this is somehow an injustice of some sort...?

I agree. Apple doesn't owe anyone jack ****. I hate it when people feel entitled to stuff that they truly are not.

housecat
Jun 16, 2011, 10:30 AM
dear everyone who is freaking out about the $100 gift card-

SELL IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE IT.

jesus, i'm sure you can get at least $75 bucks for it, and thats $75 you had no business making if it weren't for this FREE promo. people need to chill out. go have a smoke or something.

littlerabbit
Jun 16, 2011, 10:31 AM
This whole App Store credit is kinda strange to me. I have been holding off to see what back-to-school offer they have, and have been putting my config in the cart for weeks...

There has been an extra $100 discount (on top of the education price) all along.

Now when you put the config in the cart, the $100 App Store gift card will be added to your cart also, and the total credit becomes $125, hence, $25 cash credit on your purchase.

But if you opt NOT to get the gift card, you will only get $25 cash credit, which is lame, I think.

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 10:32 AM
People Here wouldn't be complaining as much if they saw next year's promo:

"2012 Back To School Promotion: Get a free Thank You card from Steve Jobs with the purchase of $2,000 or more."

It looks something like this:

"Thanks."

- Steve

:rolleyes:

hayesk
Jun 16, 2011, 10:34 AM
I'm not one of those people who will say "I'm not getting a Mac because of this new promotion". I've been a loyal Mac user since way before many of this forum's members were born. But with the lack of incentives this year, and a competitive marketplace, I'll certainly be looking at other tablets to see if they can offer me a product at a price point that I'm able to live with.

There have always been PCs cheaper than Macs by a few hundred dollars. So anyone claiming that this promo is driving them to Windows is full of %@. Even if Apple was giving away an iPod this year, it'd still be cheaper to buy a Windows PC and an iPod than buying a Mac and getting a free iPod. Sure, the PC is cheaper and probably is missing some features and battery life, etc. but it's the iPod that matters, right?

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 10:35 AM
I agree. Apple doesn't owe anyone jack ****. I hate it when people feel entitled to stuff that they truly are not.

Hmm sounds like someone's sitting pretty with the free iPod Touch they got in last year's promo. :p

ldellx3
Jun 16, 2011, 10:36 AM
does anyone know if i can get in one this deal cause i bought my macbook pro last weekend

Rodimus Prime
Jun 16, 2011, 10:36 AM
I am wondering how many people on here complaining about this promo are actually students. I wish Apple would make it a bit more work to actually prove you are a student. I think a lot of people abuse the student discount and Apple knows this, hence why you no longer see discounts on iPods and other things.

It is 2011, how many students don't have an iOS product? Apple has seen that many people just turn right around and sell the BTS iPod online afterward, hence causing Apple to lose a sale.

I like that the free giftcard can be used in any of Apple's content stores, including the iBookstore. Sure, the lack of a free iPod is disappointing, but I think most people could get some decent usage out of the free card, or just sell the card online for $70-$75.

Still the best deal is Amazon if you aren't wanting to customize anything...

Apple has been leaving the world of education for a while and offering crappier and crappier discounts.
It used to be Apple was offering great deals to students and encourage them to get them. This would mean long term profits for the company because chances are a few years down the road they would buy a new mac and keep buying news ones every 4 years or so.
Now days Apple has pretty much said FU to pros that kept them afloat during the dark times. Now to students they are giving really crappy discounts.

Dell I know offers pretty nice discounts to students and the way to get those is generally order threw your school but it is a nice discount. I bought a new laptop a year ago. Yes I got a Dell Studio but guess what with the discounts apply I got a 2+grand computer for 1400. A Mac pro of a similar set up was at around 2200-2300. That is a 800+ delta. Now I needed Windows because of the course work but still 800+ delta for similar hardware is hard to beat.

Apple is more and more showing it is leaving the world of PC. This is just the next step. I would not be surprised in the future to see apple complete drop making computers completely.

There have always been PCs cheaper than Macs by a few hundred dollars. So anyone claiming that this promo is driving them to Windows is full of %@. Even if Apple was giving away an iPod this year, it'd still be cheaper to buy a Windows PC and an iPod than buying a Mac and getting a free iPod. Sure, the PC is cheaper and probably is missing some features and battery life, etc. but it's the iPod that matters, right?
More it would lesson the sting or push people over the edge. I know this is going to hurt Apple because a lot of people that were sitting on the edge will say screw it and go PC. Big time with the 360 deal going on.
This just leaves a bad taste in peoples mouth as it is showing Apples Greed. at giving 70 bucks of stuff way is not much. Used to be iPod was around 100-130 to Apple but not 70 bucks and over priced it stings. I found the iPod was much more useful that giving away the App store crap.

vincenz
Jun 16, 2011, 10:36 AM
Where exactly does it say the new MacBook Airs will qualify?

Are we taking assumptions for the truth again?

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 10:36 AM
dear everyone who is freaking out about the $100 gift card-

SELL IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE IT.

jesus, i'm sure you can get at least $75 bucks for it, and thats $75 you had no business making if it weren't for this FREE promo. people need to chill out. go have a smoke or something.

Will you buy mine for $200? If so I promise not to freak out any longer!!! :o

FloatingBones
Jun 16, 2011, 10:37 AM
I really worry about the future of our country when people say that Apple giving them a free $100 gift card is a bad deal. It just makes everybody sound so spoiled. Like you deserve free crap. Newsflash: You don't deserve anything. You aren't special.

Let's not forget: iCloud is free. Holy crap! Lion is only $30 (compare that to Windows major OS upgrades...) All iOS updates are free. Apple gives away SO MUCH STUFF, and they are not giving you a free $100 to the App stores if you buy something. That's a damn good deal!
The "future of our country"? A bit hyperbolic, no?

Perhaps. I think that @radiogoober was pointing to the perils of an entitlement mentality: They got deal XXX last year; we are entitled to at least that much!

When fewer believe they are entitled to such things, our country is indeed healthier.

It's still a better deal than nothing, of course, but it sucks a bit for those people who were waiting out for months till the promo dropped.

Exactly. Those people are equivocating their expectations of reality with reality. Apple never made that promise; nobody did.

One of the greatest parts of a college education is that the education comes from so many unexpected directions.

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 10:38 AM
does anyone know if i can get in one this deal cause i bought my macbook pro last weekend

Return it and buy it again. Simple! :)

anonmars
Jun 16, 2011, 10:47 AM
There have always been PCs cheaper than Macs by a few hundred dollars. So anyone claiming that this promo is driving them to Windows is full of %@. Even if Apple was giving away an iPod this year, it'd still be cheaper to buy a Windows PC and an iPod than buying a Mac and getting a free iPod. Sure, the PC is cheaper and probably is missing some features and battery life, etc. but it's the iPod that matters, right?

No, the students on here that are going to get a Windows system instead of a Mac are just normal people that would rather have a free xbox than some iTunes giftcard to buy a bunch of useless software, stupid ibooks, or overpriced movies and music. And try to remember, normal people aren't like you. We're not Mac zealots buying Macs just because, we just want a good computer that works and if a company provides a sweet deal, then we'll take it instead.

emulator
Jun 16, 2011, 10:49 AM
That's their back to school? Pathetic. Students will choose or have already chosen the Xbox deal.

indiebass
Jun 16, 2011, 10:51 AM
There have always been PCs cheaper than Macs by a few hundred dollars. So anyone claiming that this promo is driving them to Windows is full of %@... Sure, the PC is cheaper and probably is missing some features and battery life, etc. but it's the iPod that matters, right?

I'm not sure you understood what I wrote when you quoted me. What I was trying to convey is that I'll still buy a Macintosh computer, because it is a good product, I'm comfortable with the OS and it works for me. But this changed promotion does squeeze the edges a bit.

For instance, I think the functionality of a tablet will be useful to me, as I said, for presentations or for other on-the-go minimal computing. And I'd love to have an Apple product that is designed to work with its brothers and sisters, but other devices will be able to compete on price and functionality, and most likely work just fine with a Macintosh computer. Without incentives from Apple, I have to seriously consider those other options- more than I would have otherwise. It will most likely turn out that I simply cannot afford a tablet of any kind.

And can someone correct me if I'm wrong? I thought the education discount used to be a flat 15%. I built a MacBook Air in the regular store and the education store and the difference was under 10%. What am I missing?

Entourage12
Jun 16, 2011, 10:55 AM
Getting ready to go to the Apple Store to pick up a new iMac :)

Quick question - is the card given to you as free or is it like the "free" iPod where you needed to pay for it upfront + taxes and wait for a rebate?

excommie
Jun 16, 2011, 10:56 AM
This iTunes card should be worth about $90 on ebay. Not as good as iPod touch, but for those that don't use the App store, selling on ebay might be a viable option.

doboy
Jun 16, 2011, 11:03 AM
After more than 30 years of using exclusively Apple products and raising my family on them, we will have to be buying 3 pcs (yecch) instead of the 3 macbook pros we had been intending to buy when Apple did its normal ipod promo. We do not need or want anything form the app store so this promo is useless to us and the competition's back to school offer is just too great. If only we could use the $100 coupon towards ipods, Apple would not be losing 3 good lifetime customers. More actually, because we all like to be compatible on our platforms and the rest of us will be migrating eventually too.

I assume those 3 good customers are eligible for this discount (student, teacher, etc).

Objector
Jun 16, 2011, 11:04 AM
That's their back to school? Pathetic. Students will choose or have already chosen the Xbox deal.

I really don't understand how everyone says that. You choose for an Apple product because you really like the OS and maybe the looks, so why would you buy an ugly windows laptop for school? When I take my MBP to college, I can easily take notes the whole day on one battery charge, while all the windows users need the use powerchords and extension cables after the first two hours.

Off course I would like a free xbox more than a 75€ voucher I don't really need, but that won't change my OS preference. You will be spending a lot more of your time on your computer, than on your xbox.

I have sold my desktop gaming PC and I've just ordered an iMac, with the voucher. Would I rather have had a free iPod? Well duh, but that won't change my initial preference and willingness to buy an iMac.

Cougarcat
Jun 16, 2011, 11:04 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8J2)

Where exactly does it say the new MacBook Airs will qualify?

Are we taking assumptions for the truth again?

In the TOC it lists computer names, not model numbers. Also, last year's new iMac qualified.

To those thinking of buying from Amazon to avoid tax: don't forget that many states do tax-free weekends in August.

FloatingBones
Jun 16, 2011, 11:11 AM
For me, as an older student who will be doing intensive research and demanding a lot from my hardware, an iTunes gift card is practically useless. For grad school, I need good equipment, not music/games. A discount on an iPad would have been ideal, allowing me to use the iPad and laptop in tandem for presentations, showing others how seamlessly Apple products work together AND getting me used to using iOS and using a tablet so when I graduate, I would already have the skills to use them effectively AND it would encourage me to go out and buy the newest, latest and greatest on my own and at full price as I reenter the workforce.

Actually, it's a MAS gift certificate that just happens to work in the iTunes store.

If you have an old Mac, you probably have old software. There are plenty of titles that could help you with your research. IMHO, apps like Scrivener are far better at organizing data than any sort of word-processing app. Are you up-to-date with your iWork apps? Do you have a first-rate software calculator like PCalc? Do you already have one of the great little image-manipulation apps like Acorn or Pixelmator? All of those can be very useful for your upcoming research.

And whether you think it's fair or not, they've established certain expectations with this promotion in the past, and a huge change like this *of course* will make make people sad and angry. I don't think it's about a sense of entitlement among students, but Apple certainly doesn't help itself by keeping these things so secret and not managing expectations.

I disagree. The upset is clearly about a sense of entitlement.

I'm not one of those people who will say "I'm not getting a Mac because of this new promotion". I've been a loyal Mac user since way before many of this forum's members were born. But with the lack of incentives this year, and a competitive marketplace, I'll certainly be looking at other tablets to see if they can offer me a product at a price point that I'm able to live with.

Please consider your tablet options no matter what incentives you just got (or are about to get) from Apple. If something provides you with comparable functionality at a lower price, go for it!

I think the convergence between Lion and iOS 5 will make Macs and iPads work together far better than anything else. If you discover some alternative tablet that works well for you, I hope you'll discuss it here.

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 11:11 AM
After more than 30 years of using exclusively Apple products and raising my family on them, we will have to be buying 3 pcs (yecch) instead of the 3 macbook pros we had been intending to buy when Apple did its normal ipod promo. We do not need or want anything form the app store so this promo is useless to us and the competition's back to school offer is just too great. If only we could use the $100 coupon towards ipods, Apple would not be losing 3 good lifetime customers. More actually, because we all like to be compatible on our platforms and the rest of us will be migrating eventually too.

Really?

I hope you've been using those Macs as Windows machines so you have the windows software you will have to replace (I'm sure that software will cost under 100 dollars...)

And over 100 dollars you are going to go to PCs over the several thousand dollar computers you were going to buy? Just for that 100 dollars. Why weren't you going to PCs already if that 100 really made a difference to you. I'm sure you'd already be saving more than a 100 dollars (Even if Apple was giving you an ipod) if you just bought PCs. You could probably have bought those PCs and an ipod and have been cheaper than if you bought the macs that came with a free ipod. Why didn't you just buy PCs in the first place if this small change in promotion really was enough to tip you over?

All this says to me is either you are lying about switching over, or you use no logic when you buy since if that 100 dollar difference really made a difference to you enough to change over computer systems, you should never have bought a Mac in the first place!

doboy
Jun 16, 2011, 11:16 AM
Really?

I hope you've been using those Macs as Windows machines so you have the windows software you will have to replace (I'm sure that software will cost under 100 dollars...)

And over 100 dollars you are going to go to PCs over the several thousand dollar computers you were going to buy? Just for that 100 dollars. Why weren't you going to PCs already if that 100 really made a difference to you. I'm sure you'd already be saving more than a 100 dollars (Even if Apple was giving you an ipod) if you just bought PCs. You could probably have bought those PCs and an ipod and have been cheaper than if you bought the macs that came with a free ipod. Why didn't you just buy PCs in the first place if this small change in promotion really was enough to tip you over?

All this says to me is either you are lying about switching over, or you use no logic when you buy since if that 100 dollar difference really made a difference to you enough to change over computer systems, you should never have bought a Mac in the first place!

He's buying three so he wanted 3 iPods instead of $300 in gift card:)

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 11:17 AM
I understand this promo isn't as good as last year's, but then again, I never really found much value in them anyways. I bought my Macbook last summer from amazon instead of from the Apple store because, to me, saving on tax and the 5% off or so Amazon usually has, was greater in value than having to deal with the hassle of MIR for a product that has no purpose for someone with an iPhone already. Sure, I could resell the iPod touch they offered at the time, but IMO, it's too much hassle to come up maybe $50 ahead than if I had just bought from Amazon in the first place.

Honestly I would have too if I didn't get charged tax on Amazon (I'm local to them so we get taxed :( ). As it was, with tax, Amazon was equal except I got a free ipod with Apple so I went with them *shrug*.

I almost bought from some other retailer but it was some online site and it was a rebate deal (would have been better) and I'm leery on rebate deals unless I'm pretty trusting of the seller. I opted for the more sure thing but not as good deal and went with Apple.

Apple is not the only place to buy a Mac ;).

tjmrpm04
Jun 16, 2011, 11:18 AM
I stopped reading after too many whiny posts so forgive me if I am stating something that has already been stated, but damn you people are a bunch of whiny brats with an over inflated sense of entitlement. You are bitching because you are getting not only an educational discount, but you are also getting a free $100 gift card? Wow, the horror that Apple has bestowed upon you. Get over yourselves. They are a corporate entity. What makes you think they OWE you an iPod Touch? Did it occur to you that there may have been significant issues pertaining to possibly the tragedy in Japan, or the explosion at Foxxcon that could have lead to higher costs in iPod manufacturing or a shortage in iPod supplies, thus rendering it impossible to fulfill a BTS promo? Or possibly that the economy is tight anyway and they can't take a hit to their bottom line like that? As for those of you bitching about how MS is doing a better promo, well if it is so go, go join that camp. I hear that they include the ability to be bogged down with bloatware, malware, and viruses all free of charge as a feature on their OS. Enjoy that! Until then, just shut up!

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 11:18 AM
He's buying three so he wanted 3 iPods instead of $300 in gift card:)

And he could have bought three PCs and three ipods and still come ahead than buying 3 macs and getting three free ipods...

My point is he'd save more money in the first place by going PC so if 300 really makes that big a deal to him, why did he not just buy a PC in the first place (where he'd save a ton more money... especially when you multiply that difference by three).

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 11:23 AM
No, the students on here that are going to get a Windows system instead of a Mac are just normal people that would rather have a free xbox than some iTunes giftcard to buy a bunch of useless software, stupid ibooks, or overpriced movies and music. And try to remember, normal people aren't like you. We're not Mac zealots buying Macs just because, we just want a good computer that works and if a company provides a sweet deal, then we'll take it instead.

It's not a sweet deal though!!!

If you are buying the computer for an ipod, why not buy the PC and buy the ipod and you've still saved money over buying the mac with the free ipod!

If you are paying more for the mac, one would hope you have a strong preference for the mac cause, well, there's a big difference in price between the two. If one shiny little toy that you could afford to buy with the difference in price between computers sways you to spend more on the more expensive computer despite the fact that you (claim to) have no preference between the two computers? Well, then you need to learn some math skills, logic, and learning how to budget. Maybe that's why so many kids are in debt these days.

Buy the mac cause you want the mac. Not cause it comes with an ipod. You're foolish if you are buying it cause it comes with a shiny toy (you could easily afford that shiny toy with the cheaper computer and come out ahead monetarily).

hayesk
Jun 16, 2011, 11:34 AM
People Here wouldn't be complaining as much if they saw next year's promo:

"2012 Back To School Promotion: Get a free Thank You card from Steve Jobs with the purchase of $2,000 or more."

It looks something like this:

"Thanks."

- Steve

:rolleyes:

No, I wouldn't complain. I wouldn't consider the promo had any value, but I'm not a self-entitled %@ who thinks the world owes me free stuff either.

freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 11:36 AM
Yeah b&h didnt have the option I wanted... I would of bought the high end model at amazon or b&h with no tax and save lots of money but I also wanted the sandy bridge and high res antiglare option that apple only has to offer...

Sniv
Jun 16, 2011, 11:38 AM
First I was disappointed but if I dont think too much about how much of that Apple is actually gonna get back I'm quite happy about this offer.

I mean it's better than nothing! And I will be able to get Office on my new Mac...

bigp9998
Jun 16, 2011, 11:42 AM
No, I wouldn't complain. I wouldn't consider the promo had any value, but I'm not a self-entitled %@ who thinks the world owes me free stuff either.

It's not free when you have to pay $1000+ to get it! Why can't you understand that?? When Apple has done this every year for the past x years, it is effectively a price increase. Would you be happy if Apple raised their prices across the board by $200 for each computer? For students, that is what they are doing.

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 11:49 AM
It's not free when you have to pay $1000+ to get it! Why can't you understand that?? When Apple has done this every year for the past x years, it is effectively a price increase. Would you be happy if Apple raised their prices across the board by $200 for each computer? For students, that is what they are doing.

And price increases happen. You are going to find that happens as you grow older.

Hate to break it to you.

apple1865
Jun 16, 2011, 11:51 AM
Do people not realize that the Xbox promo will probably end up costing them more money? If you're actually going to play games on your Xbox, you need a hard drive. That's $75 right there. You need Xbox Live as well, which is another $40/year. That's $115 already and you haven't even bought any games.

CommodityFetish
Jun 16, 2011, 11:51 AM
When business is good and the students are buying anyway, you don't need to hard-sell with as many free extras.

Also, Apple's priorities have moved: ipod+itunes buy-in is no longer as profitable as mac+mac app store buy-in.

Apple: "Here's $100, and now we'll be taking back our $33/30% off the top."

:)

daibachin
Jun 16, 2011, 11:52 AM
This really is a terrible offer... I feel very lucky I got my imac last year and feel sorry for those who have waited for months for this promotion... both my cousine and my bro's first reaction was like "wtf..." um... I dun understand why ppls can still say it's a very good deal blah blah... in terms of money value, the stuffs that you get is less that last year.. this is an undeniable fact (can u get an ipod touch w/ $100?). Not to say this generation ipod touch is so much better.. with camera and the retina display... And for that $100 coupon.. what makes it so terrible is u can only use it to get mac app... to be honest.. it's not much use to me.. I believe not much to many ppls.. it'd be nice to be just a cash coupon for anything in the mac store.. at least I could spend it on a new ipod, headphone, speakers, software... wutever... It also benefit Apple itself since it may increase the sales volume (as many things r way more than $100). Everyone happy too :D

bigp9998
Jun 16, 2011, 11:53 AM
And price increases happen. You are going to find that happens as you grow older.

Hate to break it to you.

I understand that and even expect that, but suggesting that we should not be disappointed by it is ridiculous. Would you blindly hand over your credit card no matter what the price?

Oh and while we're at it, please skip the patronizing tone.

tjmrpm04
Jun 16, 2011, 11:58 AM
It's not free when you have to pay $1000+ to get it! Why can't you understand that?? When Apple has done this every year for the past x years, it is effectively a price increase. Would you be happy if Apple raised their prices across the board by $200 for each computer? For students, that is what they are doing.


1. You do not have to pay $1000 for anything. No one is forcing you to purchase this.

2. Just because Apple has done this in the past does not obligate them in the future. They sold Newtons in the past, are you going to gripe that they wont sell you one now?

3. They did not raise their price on their computers for students. You are actually STILL getting your educational discount.

4. They owe you no promo at all. So the fact that they are doing a $100 gift card is a bonus.

5. Why can't YOU understand the above?


ETA: On behalf of Tigress, I am going to insist that all future replies to your post contain a patronizing tone since your questions of "Why can't you understand this?" began the tone. Now please let your mom get back on the computer and go out and play in the yard.

syedhussain
Jun 16, 2011, 11:59 AM
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finally on that mac status!

bigp9998
Jun 16, 2011, 12:01 PM
So this is what they are using the extra $$ on...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/16/6_7m_effort_to_replace_apples_iconic_fifth_ave_glass_cube_underway.html

2jaded2care
Jun 16, 2011, 12:02 PM
.. And whether you think it's fair or not, they've established certain expectations with this promotion in the past, and a huge change like this *of course* will make make people sad and angry. I don't think it's about a sense of entitlement among students, but Apple certainly doesn't help itself by keeping these things so secret and not managing expectations.




I disagree. The upset is clearly about a sense of entitlement.



I agree with indiebass, Apple kind of set a precedent with the free Touch offers previously, and this is a letdown. It's as if a relative regularly gave you $250 for your birthday, and this year they gave you $100. You realize you're not really "entitled" to anything, but you have to wonder, what's up with that? (No reason to get angry, though, that is a sense of entitlement.)

Plus, many previous customers would upgrade from the base model Touch, which also meant $$ for Apple. Personally, I think they should have offered a choice, either the low-end Touch, or a gift card for somewhat more, to encourage people to spend on apps. But then again, it's not my money to give away...

Just my 2¢.

dukebound85
Jun 16, 2011, 12:04 PM
the only time that i would buy a mac is when they have this promotion going on :)

because you will always be a student? :confused:

freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 12:07 PM
This iTunes card should be worth about $90 on ebay. Not as good as iPod touch, but for those that don't use the App store, selling on ebay might be a viable option.

Yeah but you also have Ebay Fees.... Shipping... and then Paypal Fees... i think ebay deducts 9& for the first 50 dollars.. I don't know how much paypal deducts. I think everyones best bet is trying craigslist first.

cmaier
Jun 16, 2011, 12:07 PM
Pretty bad offer, but at least they do have student discounts on nearly everything.

trsblader
Jun 16, 2011, 12:10 PM
Although earlier in this thread (or maybe it was the one speculating that it was today, I forget since there are so darn many threads about this topic) I said I wasn't thrilled with it, after walking into the Apple Store I remember why I still chose a Mac.

Not only was customer service top notch, 3 or 4 of them came over to me while another associate was checking me out all talking to me about school, we talked about video games for a while, they gave me some hints on how to "save" money on stuff, etc. I felt like I was talking to mature people that didn't push other products on me, just talked about stuff I already had, not to mention I think at 21 I was the second oldest in the group of us.

Also, Before I even bought it, the saleswoman asked "Would you like us to start it up for you in store and get it running before you leave?" which was nice (even though I said no). They were EXTREMELY busy, hardly able to walk around, and they still offered to find space to set up and even hook my printer up.

Even though this iTunes card will probably be spent mostly on gifts for my brother/room mates, and I still have an old iPod Touch, I'm overall extremely pleased.

Also couldn't be happier price wise. I spent $1,596.88 out the door. This included my iMac, my $100 iTunes gift card, and also the $100 printer (that I applied for the rebate IN STORE). So take that $100 off when I get my rebate, and I spent $1,496.88. Not too bad at all since without anything, just the computer was $1,499 and it was $1,399 after just education discount. No waiting on shipping, no having to fuss with sending it back should something be wrong, etc.

rumz
Jun 16, 2011, 12:16 PM
Bottom line: Apple's doesn't need to give away iPods to sell Macs anymore.

For those of you who are choosing PC over Mac based on what you get for free from each company? You absolutely should be using a PC if that's the most valuable thing to you. I hope you spend enough money on that PC to get one that's well made-- in more than a decade of being a PC user, I've owned exactly one machine (PC) that never failed / broke down. Others cost me hundreds in parts and hours of time troubleshooting. Experiences that I've failed to duplicate on any of the Macs I've owned in the last five years.

I reject the conclusion that a $100 card is useless. Now, you may prefer an XBox, but that doesn't make the $100 card useless. If you don't sell it, you can get Music. Books. Movies. TV Shows. Software. (I'd most likely not spend it on TV or Movies because I don't want the DRM). But I could spend that $100 on music alone very easily. I like the idea that

I was planning on getting an iPod Nano with my purchase this summer. Big deal. I can get an open box deal on Amazon for less than $100, no sweat. Instead I'll get $100 off of Final Cut Pro X, something I won't be able to buy second-hand at such a steep discount.

As for the ridiculous assertion that Apple is being stingy... there's another way to look at it, that more people benefit from this than the iPod deal. iPod deal? Apple sells a Mac, customer gets an iPod. Gift card? Apple sells a Mac, customer gets $100 in free media and or software, and app developers and musicians and authors get paid.

doboy
Jun 16, 2011, 12:17 PM
It's not free when you have to pay $1000+ to get it! Why can't you understand that?? When Apple has done this every year for the past x years, it is effectively a price increase. Would you be happy if Apple raised their prices across the board by $200 for each computer? For students, that is what they are doing.

Few years back, Apple computers used to cost $200-300 more. When I purchased my 15" MacBook Pro in 2007, it was $1999 for the cheapest one.

doboy
Jun 16, 2011, 12:18 PM
And he could have bought three PCs and three ipods and still come ahead than buying 3 macs and getting three free ipods...

My point is he'd save more money in the first place by going PC so if 300 really makes that big a deal to him, why did he not just buy a PC in the first place (where he'd save a ton more money... especially when you multiply that difference by three).

I understand your point. I was making fun of the original poster.

rdlink
Jun 16, 2011, 12:28 PM
Go from giving a piece of hardware with real resale value, or even gifting potential to giving out what amounts basically to air. They're not even giving $100 away. It's $70, tops. They get 30% of every sale. And what about apps they produce? They essentially get all of the $100 back if someone uses it for iWork apps.

Lame, Apple.

Ozbotic
Jun 16, 2011, 12:28 PM
I stopped reading after too many whiny posts so forgive me if I am stating something that has already been stated, but damn you people are a bunch of whiny brats with an over inflated sense of entitlement. You are bitching because you are getting not only an educational discount, but you are also getting a free $100 gift card? Wow, the horror that Apple has bestowed upon you. Get over yourselves. They are a corporate entity. What makes you think they OWE you an iPod Touch? Did it occur to you that there may have been significant issues pertaining to possibly the tragedy in Japan, or the explosion at Foxxcon that could have lead to higher costs in iPod manufacturing or a shortage in iPod supplies, thus rendering it impossible to fulfill a BTS promo? Or possibly that the economy is tight anyway and they can't take a hit to their bottom line like that? As for those of you bitching about how MS is doing a better promo, well if it is so go, go join that camp. I hear that they include the ability to be bogged down with bloatware, malware, and viruses all free of charge as a feature on their OS. Enjoy that! Until then, just shut up!
+1

Thank you! Apple is still being generous by giving us anything, let me list the things we are getting with our purchase: A powerful top notch computer, 100-200 dollars off the computer, a free printer, and a free 100 dollar itunes gift card. Honestly if you have the money and the only complain is that you don't get another ipod than you probably didn't really want a Mac in the first place because if you really wanted a Mac you know that you most likely couldn't stand having an inferior windows computer that crashes all the time and needs a repair in the first 3 weeks.

Two things that are blowing my mind and are kind of interesting are the fact there should only be college level kids or teachers in this post but for some reason everyone is acting like 8 year olds who are throwing fits cause they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas. It's a shame how selfish people are. Not only in wanting more, but in not realizing how Apple was affected by prior disasters.

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 12:42 PM
As for the ridiculous assertion that Apple is being stingy...

It's not ridiculous. Apple's mimicing a cheap-a$$ riverboat casino that gives you a few chips to play with for showing your ID. A $100 Mac Store gift card is like playing with house money.

:(

kazmac
Jun 16, 2011, 12:44 PM
Kind of put my foot in my mouth yesterday when I decried the "usefulness" of the $100 gift card.

I forgot about Pixelmator, Final Cut Pro X etc.

While I've purchased several Macs as a student during the Summer (including my iMac) I never opted for the free iPod offer.

Rethinking this, sure it would be nice to have an extra discount on the computer itself above and beyond the Educational discount AND the $100 gift card > but I can see where this is useful.

So I digress...

XR4TI
Jun 16, 2011, 12:53 PM
FYI

Best Buy doesn't match BTS promo!

Whats the best way to get my mac. In store or order online?

rumz
Jun 16, 2011, 12:55 PM
It's not ridiculous. Apple's mimicing a cheap-a$$ riverboat casino that gives you a few chips to play with for showing your ID. A $100 Mac Store gift card is like playing with house money.

:(

Poor analogy. In a Casino you only gamble, there are no guarantees. Also, yours and many other's arguments imply that items available in the app store and the iTunes store are of little to no value. (Maybe you prefer to steal intellectual property rather than pay for it, I don't know.) You may not value it, but there is a market where it has value.

Sure it's an Apple software and media shopping spree and you don't get to spend that money anywhere else, but you still end up with something at the end of the day-- whether it's $85 in cash for selling the card, or use it to purchase media / software. You could buy movies / music / books elsewhere, but it'd have to come out of your own pocket instead of Apple's. Unless, as previously suggested, you prefer the five finger discount on those items.

jc1350
Jun 16, 2011, 12:55 PM
Few years back, Apple computers used to cost $200-300 more. When I purchased my 15" MacBook Pro in 2007, it was $1999 for the cheapest one.

How much was it compared to a system with comparable hardware? The cheap $300 systems are that cheap for a reason.

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 12:59 PM
+1

Thank you! Apple is still being generous by giving us anything, let me list the things we are getting with our purchase: A powerful top notch computer, 100-200 dollars off the computer, a free printer, and a free 100 dollar itunes gift card. Honestly if you have the money and the only complain is that you don't get another ipod than you probably didn't really want a Mac in the first place because if you really wanted a Mac you know that you most likely couldn't stand having an inferior windows computer that crashes all the time and needs a repair in the first 3 weeks.

Two things that are blowing my mind and are kind of interesting are the fact there should only be college level kids or teachers in this post but for some reason everyone is acting like 8 year olds who are throwing fits cause they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas. It's a shame how selfish people are. Not only in wanting more, but in not realizing how Apple was affected by prior disasters.

I like most people wanted the free iPod because it has street value. So I can sell it and offset the markup on Apple's overpriced products.

:apple:

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 01:02 PM
Poor analogy. In a Casino you only gamble, there are no guarantees. Also, yours and many other's arguments imply that items available in the app store and the iTunes store are of little to no value. (Maybe you prefer to steal intellectual property rather than pay for it, I don't know.) You may not value it, but there is a market where it has value.

... Which market?

jne381
Jun 16, 2011, 01:08 PM
I like most people wanted the free iPod because it has street value. So I can sell it and offset the markup on Apple's overpriced products.

:apple:

This. Or I could give it away as a nice gift since I already have an iPhone and an iPod.

mccldwll
Jun 16, 2011, 01:08 PM
I have to say that I'm quite disappointed by Apple's decision to change from the iPod Touch to the Gift Card. The base model iPod was the college student's free entry into the world of iOS, and clearly leads to purchase of other iOS product down the road (iPhone, iPad). I can safely say that when I purchased my MBP two years ago and received the free iPod Touch, it greatly influenced my decision to purchase the iPhone 4. Also, by distributing free iPod Touches you are placing two devices into the hands of the college student that require apps rather than one. The gift card only means that you're selling apps that would have been purchased anyway, had an iPod been given away. Unfortunately, I think that the loss in locking college students into iOS devices will prove to be much greater loss in the long run than the loss of an additional $120 per student Mac purchase from June to September. They also forget that this promo doesn't apply to everyone, students are a PERCENTAGE of the market, and the offer is only good for three months. And now, Microsoft (who pretty much copied the iPod promo with their XBox) now looks like even more bang for the buck to students who may have been considering their first Mac purchase. All in all, a poor business decision for Apple. I think this is a case where the iPod giveaway was a means of investing into future business with your consumers, rather than locking in $100 of business with a gift card.


LOL. A newbie (msft troll) who thinks he knows more about marketing and long term customer relationships than aapl. Give....me...a...break.

Ozbotic
Jun 16, 2011, 01:31 PM
This. Or I could give it away as a nice gift since I already have an iPhone and an iPod.

Alright I can understand that, but is that a reason to call them stingy and that they are greedy? I mean I'm not saying you said any of those things but if other people have the same reasons it's kind of like saying:

"I hate apple because they didn't give me an ipod touch to flip for more money."
or
"I hate Apple because they didn't provide me with a gift to giveaway later."

Honestly I can understand disappointment, but between the three back-to-school promotion topics in this forum it seems people are way more than disappointed, it seems like there is more anger and resentment towards apple right now which shouldn't be the case. Really if you think about it people are complaining about getting something free.

rumz
Jun 16, 2011, 01:32 PM
... Which market?

It includes everyone who likes music and software enough to exchange money for it. Includes most of the people I know, none of them have trouble using an iTunes gift card when it's given as a gift, because there's always music they'd like to have.

kwiiboy
Jun 16, 2011, 01:41 PM
Man, if you don't want the Gift Card, sell it. You'll get around $75 for it. Good enough for a day and a half's worth of Starbucks.

indiebass
Jun 16, 2011, 01:45 PM
Really if you think about it people are complaining about getting something free.

Honestly, the way *I* feel about this whole situation is like... it's like waiting in a long line at a Chinese restaurant and seeing everyone who gets seated in front of me get complimentary soup and egg rolls, but then when *I* sit down they just give me a bowl of those fried crackers.

The crackers are fine, though not really my thing. And if I want soup I'll go ahead and order some on my own. But having to sit there and watch the people who came in before me enjoy their soup and egg rolls isn't fun.

gkarris
Jun 16, 2011, 01:46 PM
Hmm, I know this is stating the obvious, but actually this is only costing Apple $70, since they get $30 profit on the $100 spent.

It's the drug dealer model. First one is free. Then you're hooked. Nice, apple. Nice.

Apple also charges sales tax on downloads as they have a store in every state, so that $100 is only $92 in stuff (where I'm from).

Mr Fusion
Jun 16, 2011, 02:08 PM
It includes everyone who likes music and software enough to exchange money for it. Includes most of the people I know, none of them have trouble using an iTunes gift card when it's given as a gift, because there's always music they'd like to have.

I'm being serious (for once) would any of them buy my gift card once I buy my MBA?

Ozbotic
Jun 16, 2011, 02:09 PM
Honestly, the way *I* feel about this whole situation is like... it's like waiting in a long line at a Chinese restaurant and seeing everyone who gets seated in front of me get complimentary soup and egg rolls, but then when *I* sit down they just give me a bowl of those fried crackers.

The crackers are fine, though not really my thing. And if I want soup I'll go ahead and order some on my own. But having to sit there and watch the people who came in before me enjoy their soup and egg rolls isn't fun.

Though I didn't post it I figured that was also a major gripe and to be honest I somewhat feel the same way. What you just described sounds like disappointment and their is nothing wrong or annoying about that but, my point was people are/were sort of over-reacting and basically throwing tantrums because their free thing wasn't exactly what they wanted or hoped for. Of course when your expectations are not met you are disappointed, but the blatant name calling and anger just seemed really childish and just wrong.

An example of name calling is the article someone just posted calling Steve Jobs an ass and pretty much this whole conversation.(I cant find it for some reason or else i would've have posted it).

gorcman
Jun 16, 2011, 02:14 PM
Honestly, the way *I* feel about this whole situation is like... it's like waiting in a long line at a Chinese restaurant and seeing everyone who gets seated in front of me get complimentary soup and egg rolls, but then when *I* sit down they just give me a bowl of those fried crackers.

The crackers are fine, though not really my thing. And if I want soup I'll go ahead and order some on my own. But having to sit there and watch the people who came in before me enjoy their soup and egg rolls isn't fun.

Not exactly the best analogy. Seem to be implying that you're being discriminated against

A better analogy would be Ben & Jerry's giving everyone free hot fudge/strawberry syrup and whipped cream (assuming you're a fan of whipped cream and fudge/syrup) with your icecream every summer. After summer ends, you wait and wait and wait for the next summer, assuming they're gonna do it again. Summer comes by again, and now they're only offering free sprinkles. :p

Kirsten Hollerd
Jun 16, 2011, 02:17 PM
Wow, lame deal. Time to buy from Amazon where it will no doubt be cheaper thanks to no tax.

Apple - finding ways for me not to buy from them since 2006.

There you go! Show Apple who's boss because surely they don't make any money selling the products to Amazon in the first place!
Glad to see people taking an important stand in their lives.

Nozzleman 216
Jun 16, 2011, 02:23 PM
I am sure my post will be put down, but as someone NEW to Mac having never owned one, this was something I was looking forward to. Why....because I have never owned anything Apple. I wouldn't suggest I was against Apple in any way, I just chose other avenues (PC, Zune and Android) Does it make my decision harder to buy a Macbook Pro? Not really, I have wanted one for years but could never justify the extra cost. Now that my second laptop in 5 years is taking a ****, it has made me reconsider the cost (which I have already spent on laptops, batteries, cables and virus protection)

So for me to say this new promotion is not a let down would be a lie. I am going to be an Apple convert (how will I not love the Mac?) and I was really hoping for an Ipod to go along with it. Again, my decision has not changed, just my thoughts of converting everything over to Apple soon may have slowed. Maybe I can deal on an Iphone in the store with my MBP :apple:

Kirsten Hollerd
Jun 16, 2011, 02:23 PM
By the way... just got back from my local Apple store and the place was going bananas. A lot of people seemed really excited about getting the student discount+free printer+Lion upgrade+$100 GC.

After listening to some of the reactions on this board I was expecting some sort of riot due to the lack of a free iPod. I didn't even see anyone storm out in protest determined to abandon Apple forever in favor of the superior Xbox offer!

indiebass
Jun 16, 2011, 02:37 PM
Not exactly the best analogy. Seem to be implying that you're being discriminated against

That's not what I was saying at all. I wasn't trying to imply that it was just *me* who wasn't getting soup, but myself and everyone who came after me in line, and with no notice.

Nex Superne
Jun 16, 2011, 02:50 PM
I have watched and read the comments, and have actually found myself laughing at some of the comments. So, first off, I want to thank all of those that have made me laugh with their statements, comments, and remarks about this issue. It has been WAY better than watching 2 drunk soldiers arguing in the language of Jack Daniels.

I work on Windows machine because I can make money at it when fools get malware, spyware and viruses on their computers. Here, I have to thank Bill Gates for unwittingly creating a job for me. But I also have to help those non-technical people with their iPhones, iPods, iTunes, etc, so I have to throw Steve-O a big Thanks too.

News flash for everyone. Apple is a private company/business, and as such they are in business to make money for the company in the US. They are not here to GIVE AWAY the profits, be directed by a government to sell at a specific dollar amount, or both. Those of you that think Apple should be REQUIRED to GIVE you a free 8GB iPod Touch are really a sad bunch. I can hear it now! "They have set a precedence by doing that in the previous years" is NOT a valid argument. So what if Apple did that in years past? Are you not able to see beyond your own selfishness at what is going on with not only the US economy, but the rest of the free world? "This is the way it was always done in the past" or "It has always been done it this way" is a statement of those afraid of change, those fearful of the future or a challenge.

I have never owned a mac computer, but am planning on getting one soon before the BTS promotion expires. I, like lots of other people, was hoping for the "free" iPod Touch to give to my son for his birthday this summer. I figured that since Apple had provided the iPod with the Japanese BTS sale a month or so ago, the US would also get this "gift". Well, we didn't, and instead Apple offers a $100 gift card. Am I happy about it? No. Do I think Apple is making a mistake in marketing on this? Yes. I get a $100 gift card along with $100 off a MBP. That is WAY better than a sharp stick in the eye ANY day. (and for those that don't understand that phrase, it is better than getting nothing back and having to pay full price.

And, YES, I will be purchasing a MBP this summer, even WITHOUT the free iPod Touch. I just hope that the MBP meets my expectations.

dpcontardi
Jun 16, 2011, 02:55 PM
There you go! Show Apple who's boss because surely they don't make any money selling the products to Amazon in the first place!
Glad to see people taking an important stand in their lives.

:)

dpcontardi
Jun 16, 2011, 02:56 PM
That's not what I was saying at all. I wasn't trying to imply that it was just *me* who wasn't getting soup, but myself and everyone who came after me in line, and with no notice.

Err.. but you're not watching people in front of you get their free soup. You're remembering some people you saw 12 months ago getting free soup.

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Jun 16, 2011, 02:57 PM
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finally on that mac status!
At least you only paid $98 for your $100 gift card... :D
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freddiculous
Jun 16, 2011, 03:16 PM
At least you only paid $98 for your $100 gift card... :D
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/756788-REG/Apple_MC724LL_A_13_3_MacBook_Pro_Notebook.html
$1419.84
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/693503-REG/Epson_C11CA80201_Stylus_NX420_All_in_One_Printer.html
$65.00
Tax $0
Ship $0
Total $1484.84

Well if he used his bank of america rewards card he would get 2 points for every dollar.... So thats 40 dollars off.... Plus he gets 100 dollars back in rebate money for his Printer... and oh wait if he decides to sell his 100 gift card.. thats another 85 dollars off... How is b&h cheaper now? The final cost for his mac owuld be 1357.84... And if he decides to sell his printer for an easy 60 bucks it will be minus the 60 dollars.. So i really think you get a better bargain with apple no?

Adding all those deductions

tSoprano
Jun 16, 2011, 03:19 PM
It's not Apple's fault if you have more wants than money.

Low Cost/Quality vs. High Cost/Quality

You get to pick. Choose wisely.

sleazy
Jun 16, 2011, 03:20 PM
Hmm. I wonder if Apple is going to consider dropping the iPod Touch at some point in the future. Maybe they will update it one last time this September. With the unlocked iPhones being sold now and the next iPhone being delayed until September as well, who knows what will happen.

did you not watch the keynote and itunes being a large portion of income... What have you been smoking??

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 03:21 PM
I understand that and even expect that, but suggesting that we should not be disappointed by it is ridiculous. Would you blindly hand over your credit card no matter what the price?

Oh and while we're at it, please skip the patronizing tone.

Oh, I think it's disappointing, no one likes price increases but sometimes you do have to just accept the fact that they will happen (It's been happening since at least the beginning of last century or rather before. Inflation is something that never seems to go away). I just think some people on here are being way overdramatic (the poster child was the guy who claims he's a 30 year Apple fan and all his family has macs and he's going to change over all the computers to PCs cause of this).

ANd yes, I will be patronizing to them cause their acting like little kids stomping their feet.

tSoprano
Jun 16, 2011, 03:21 PM
It's not Apple's fault if you have more wants than money.

Low Cost/Quality vs. High Cost/Quality

You get to pick. Choose wisely.


And if you come back with a snotty, "Macs are too expensive/not that much better!", then your decision is easy. Enjoy Windows.

bizhop
Jun 16, 2011, 03:24 PM
http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/sys/2443762465.html

Sale Price 2000 = Apple® - MacBook® Pro / Intel® Core™ i7 Processor / 15.4" Display / 4GB Memory / 750GB Hard Drive.__Model: MC723LL/A

check this out: better than apple BTS promo
This guy got a store that sell clearance sale on all apple products/gaming for even price.
Woohooo!!!!!

tigress666
Jun 16, 2011, 03:25 PM
And I'll say something for at least something you get with Mac (least those of us with easily accessible Apple stores) that you won't get with PCs.

I've been having issues with my MBP not detecting my monitor. It is no longer under warranty. Today I went in to a genius appointment and he helped me troubleshoot it to find my problem (turns out it was my mini display port to VGA adaptor). He didn't charge me for his time, he even took time to see if he could find an old VGA monitor lying around we could test my connector with. This was very helpful to me as I don't have anyone else I know with the same so there were certain things I could not test (basically we were also able to use one of his connectors to see if my mac would turn on a monitor, it would). I didn't have to ask or plead for his help, he just said, "let's just connect it up and see if it works with another adaptor/monitor" and when I asked if we could test my connector he happily went to go look to see if they had a VGA monitor around they could use.

And this is not the first time they helped me troubleshoot a problem on a computer that was no longer under warranty. I've almost started taking it for granted that they will do that.

How many PC places would happily help you troubleshoot your out of warranty computer for free? He could have easily said if you want us to find the problem it will cost you this much which is what most technical places would tell you because, well, you're taking their time up (either that they could be using getting money from a paying customer or that their store is paying them and wanting to be reimbursed for that time).

tSoprano
Jun 16, 2011, 03:28 PM
If Apple can be accused of anything, it's creating an (ugly) environment of entitlement among their customers. Running the same promotion for several years has apparently convinced some people that Macs go on sale every summer (sell the iPod and reduce your net cost). Good for Apple to stop this madness, and good for Apple to realize more people sell the free iPods than keep them.

AppleFan4Life1
Jun 16, 2011, 03:30 PM
This is great news for customers.

No...... absolutely not

tSoprano
Jun 16, 2011, 03:31 PM
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

sleazy
Jun 16, 2011, 03:32 PM
Good thing i got my mac last year 219.00 back for an ipod touch sold for 200.00
This is a classic example of greed not everyone wants to by apps or songs.... 100.00 thats not evan half of what they gave last year 219.00

What they should have done is get a free ipod or a credit to buy stuff at apple retail or online in the same amount 219.00 with no stipulations like they normally put like can't by ipad or apple tv... they always take the good stuff out of deals like that.... they want to to by the garbage no one wants.... Also if you give a credit to buy at apple retail then you can make the your own choice to buy an itunes card or buy an app store card.....

Apple has increased it revenue by leaps and bounds you would think the loyal consumers and students might get a more of a bargain then...... less of one in my opinion.

RawKurd
Jun 16, 2011, 03:35 PM
I also ordered the free Epson Stylus NX420 All-in-One Printer.. Anyone have this printer is it any good or should i sell it?


For a $100 it is an awesome printer. It does pretty much everything, printing, scanning, and you can find reviews of it on youtube. It is pretty easy to use

tSoprano
Jun 16, 2011, 03:39 PM
Good thing i got my mac last year 219.00 back for an ipod touch sold for 200.00
This is a classic example of greed not everyone wants to by apps or songs.... 100.00 thats not evan half of what they gave last year 219.00

What they should have done is get a free ipod or a credit to buy stuff at apple retail or online in the same amount 219.00 with no stipulations like they normally put like can't by ipad or apple tv... they always take the good stuff out of deals like that.... they want to to by the garbage no one wants.... Also if you give a credit to buy at apple retail then you can make the your own choice to buy an itunes card or buy an app store card.....

Apple has increased it revenue by leaps and bounds you would think the loyal consumers and students might get a more of a bargain then...... less of one in my opinion.


"...a classic example of greed..." Excuse me, who exactly is being greedy?

lokiju
Jun 16, 2011, 03:46 PM
It honestly is disappointing that this is the year they stopped doing the free iPod for me only because this is actually the first year I'm looking to buy a Macbook Air or Pro once the new Airs and Lion are out.

I was excited to think that I could also get a free iPod touch out of the transaction to replace my old iPod in my car.

That said, I will still be buying a MBA with Lion if the refresh is worthy enough of buying. If not, I'll probably just grab a 13" MBP from Micro Center for the never ending $999 they sell it for.

Just switched jobs 6 weeks ago and last place provided a 13" MBP that I'm missing after using this HP here at the new place.

AppleFan4Life1
Jun 16, 2011, 03:55 PM
what a total LET DOWN. I wanted to take advantage of the promotion last year but I could not afford it at the time. So I saved up this entire year waiting in anticipation for the “buy a Mac get a free ipod touch” or the predicted discounted ipad promo. I have been wanting a Mac for years and it was finally going to happen :( Haha when I used to rep for EPSON I used to sell more Mac products then my own… that’s how much I love Apple … This is TERRIBLE NEWS for me; I need a lap top now and cannot wait until next yr. I don’t want to…… but I guess now I have no other options but to get another horrific PC lap top… :( yeeekh! A PC by force…. this TOTALLY SUCKS! Another disappointment is how APPLE is advertising the 10% student discount as if its a trade off to the “free itouch” promo???? The 10% discount was always offered along side the “free I touch”promo.????
As a child my first computer memories were on the old green display Apples..haha the best days…oragan trail..ect).

Chiela
Jun 16, 2011, 04:11 PM
what a total LET DOWN. I wanted to take advantage of the promotion last year but I could not afford it at the time. So I saved up this entire year waiting in anticipation for the “buy a Mac get a free ipod touch” or the predicted discounted ipad promo. I have been wanting a Mac for years and it was finally going to happen :( Haha when I used to rep for EPSON I used to sell more Mac products then my own… that’s how much I love Apple … This is TERRIBLE NEWS for me; I need a lap top now and cannot wait until next yr. I don’t want to…… but I guess now I have no other options but to get another horrific PC lap top… :( yeeekh! A PC by force…. this TOTALLY SUCKS! Another disappointment is how APPLE is advertising the 10% student discount as if its a trade off to the “free itouch” promo???? The 10% discount was always offered along side the “free I touch”promo.????
As a child my first computer memories were on the old green display Apples..haha the best days…oragan trail..ect).

Why exactly do you have to buy a PC over a Mac? It can't be money issues because you said that you would have taken advantage of the iPad discount, which ultimately would have cost you more money, not less. You can still get your Mac. I'm also disappointed that a free iPod Touch isn't up for grabs, but it shouldn't be the end all be all in your choice to buy a Mac over a PC. I can't imagine why it would be.