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Jun 16, 2011, 05:10 AM
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With the explosive growth of Facebook and Twitter, social networking has been the biggest trend in the recent years. Apple has already tried delve into this market a bit with its iTunes network Ping (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/03/apple-announces-one-million-ping-users-in-first-two-days/), though with limited success.

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Based on a new patent application (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20110142016&OS=20110142016&RS=20110142016) published today, it seems Apple has been exploring far more ambitious attempts using the iPhone, location-based services and interest matching. The result is the possibility that your iPhone could find you your next friend, business partner or date. Apple sets up the scenario in the patent filing:Social networks are a well known phenomenon, and various electronic systems to support social networking are known. Growing a social network can mean that a person needs to discover like-minded or compatible people who have similar interests or experiences to him or her. Identifying like-minded people, however, often requires a substantial amount of and time and effort because identifying new persons with common interests for friendships is difficult. For example, when two strangers meet, it may take a long and awkward conversation to discover their common interests or experiences. So, instead of "awkward conversation", Apple proposes that individuals' interests can be determined manually by questionnaires (interests, books, etc...) but also automatically by mining various data found in their iPhone device. You will be able to find others in your immediate vicinity that might match your interests and introduce yourself to them through your iPhone.Common interests and experiences of two or more users located close to each other can be identified from content, including automatically created usage data of the mobile devices. Usage data of a mobile device can be created based on activities performed on the mobile device (e.g., songs downloaded), a trajectory of the mobile device (e.g., places traveled), or other public data available from the mobile device (e.g., pictures shared).Of course, all this would be opt-in only to avoid any privacy concerns. For example. GPS tracking could identify people who have traveled to the same locations. Phone numbers and contacts can be compared, as well as common bookmarks or games played on device. Overall the application is a fascinating read. They even suggest that facial recognition features could be used to identify common contacts.

Now, patent applications tend to be overambitious descriptions of what could be, and Apple is known to dabble in various areas that they don't necessarily plan on pursuing. That said, location-services and social network are rapidly growing markets, so it wouldn't be surprising for Apple to make some efforts in those areas. In fact, we've already seen references (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/13/new-ios-feature-coming-find-my-friends/) to a "Find My Friends" features in developer builds of iOS.

Article Link: Apple Researching How the iPhone Can Help You Make New Friends (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/16/apple-researching-how-the-iphone-can-help-you-make-new-friends/)



greenorblue
Jun 16, 2011, 05:13 AM
How...creepy.

AtomicEdge
Jun 16, 2011, 05:13 AM
Looks like this will be great for meeting people who have had strokes.

Zedsdead185
Jun 16, 2011, 05:13 AM
have no friends? theres an app for that...

I can't actually seriously see them implementing this... surely not.

bigjobby
Jun 16, 2011, 05:21 AM
I'm beyond help!

eawmp1
Jun 16, 2011, 05:25 AM
iLonely

NutsNGum
Jun 16, 2011, 05:25 AM
Don't you hate it when that stranger across the street doesn't know all your intimate personal details?

thelonelylimo
Jun 16, 2011, 05:26 AM
this should be interesting. :cool:

NightFox
Jun 16, 2011, 05:27 AM
I think I dated her once

wazgilbert
Jun 16, 2011, 05:27 AM
deeply worrying and +1 reason why the juniors can't have a phone until they grow up!

Icaras
Jun 16, 2011, 05:29 AM
Picture = WTF

mrkramer
Jun 16, 2011, 05:30 AM
This sounds very creepy. I can't see anyone actually wanting to opt into this so I hope Apple have their developers spending time doing more useful work than trying to implement this.

mixel
Jun 16, 2011, 05:31 AM
I quite like this idea as an opt in extra.. It could make breaking the ice at random social gatherings interesting.

Its not that different to signing in to locations on Facebook and seeing who else is there, just a lot less hassle. Not useful most of the time, but occasionally could be very handy if implemented well.

caspersoong
Jun 16, 2011, 05:35 AM
I don't think this will catch on. Lots of people want privacy.

jayducharme
Jun 16, 2011, 05:35 AM
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iStalker.

a trajectory of the mobile device

You can throw your iPhone at someone and that can indicate you don't want to friend them.

arn
Jun 16, 2011, 05:36 AM
I quite like this idea as an opt in extra.. It could make breaking the ice at random social gatherings interesting.

Its not that different to signing in to locations on Facebook and seeing who else is there, just a lot less hassle. Not useful most of the time, but occasionally could be very handy if implemented well.

As creepy as it sounds, there are definitely some interesting location-based ideas out there. I mean at a party it might be nice to know who is there or not. It also might be nice to get a roster of names and faces, if everyone had a profile.

Also there are other apps that try to let people hold a chat room or conversation in the background. It's all very interesting stuff. Not sure how well Apple would do with it.

arn

bartelby
Jun 16, 2011, 05:39 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks this is creepy..

BLACKFRIDAY
Jun 16, 2011, 05:40 AM
Everything's all right, but why the fck did Apple choose that sick pic in the patent?

ratzzo
Jun 16, 2011, 05:41 AM
They are running out of ideas.

Also, I wouldn't date the girl in that pic :rolleyes:

chaosbunny
Jun 16, 2011, 05:45 AM
I'm glad many others think this is creepy.

Unfortunately I'm afraid that if Apple presents this in a cool and trendy way at a keynote in a couple of years too many people will want it. :rolleyes:

yourstation
Jun 16, 2011, 05:50 AM
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It's just a patent people, not an actual product. Apple will always go way beyond in a patent to cover all possibilities until more realistic applicable uses that rely on the patent emerge.

Frosticus
Jun 16, 2011, 05:50 AM
Looks like this will be great for meeting people who have had strokes.

this! :p

The Mad Mule
Jun 16, 2011, 05:51 AM
I don't think that portrait helps to defeat the stereotype that nerds and geeks don't know what a girl is/looks like.

BLACKFRIDAY
Jun 16, 2011, 05:55 AM
I think I dated her once

= I think I dated her.

No one would ever date her twice. :p

johnvr
Jun 16, 2011, 05:56 AM
Yes, it's way creepy. That's why Facebook will implement it first and without asking us.

Then when the privacy advocates start complaining, they give you a complicated opt out that nobody understands.

This whole trend is not so much about helping people, but about mining our interests for money.

Might be that I'm just overreacting after seeing a garbage truck advertising the municipal garbage collector's Facebook page. I mean ???????

BLACKFRIDAY
Jun 16, 2011, 05:58 AM
Yes, it's way creepy. That's why Facebook will implement it first and without asking us.

Then when the privacy advocates start complaining, they give you a complicated opt out that nobody understands.

This whole trend is not so much about helping people, but about mining our interests for money.

Might be that I'm just overreacting after seeing a garbage truck advertising the municipal garbage collector's Facebook page. I mean ???????

Yeah! That made sense.

Totally. :rolleyes:

BlindMellon
Jun 16, 2011, 05:58 AM
That sound you here is Apple scraping the bottom of the barrel.

davester
Jun 16, 2011, 05:59 AM
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About 16 years ago, a company in Japan came out with something very similar that you wore as a watch. You put all your usual details in there (sex, age, likes, dislikes, etc) and if two people which the device deemed as being compatible came in close proximity to eachother, it would buzz or flash. A pretty cool idea, but alas, takes out the magic of serendipity and fate.

Eolian
Jun 16, 2011, 06:02 AM
I was thinking about this on the beach yesterday, though something of a much more "controlled" format. Something where you select what is broadcast; the idea of the OS going in and mining your phone for publication seems crazy wrong.

But a simple "single mom, here to photograph today's fine weather" or some such banality could be an interesting proximity feature. I'm quite sure there will be application of it offered in iOS at some point.

Bernard SG
Jun 16, 2011, 06:03 AM
I can't see anyone actually wanting to opt into this

I think you're wrong on this, unfortunately.

HelveticaNeue
Jun 16, 2011, 06:09 AM
As unsettling as this patent might seem, I would love to get a push notification every time I am near someone who has read Dune. I've only met one person. So much to talk about. :(

I'd also like my phone to warn me when I meet a new person if they're an *******. Is that in the patent?

Themaeds
Jun 16, 2011, 06:12 AM
I would def want to hang with that chick in the picture...She is wearing the captains "C". She must be important

arn
Jun 16, 2011, 06:16 AM
As unsettling as this patent might seem, I would love to get a push notification every time I am near someone who has read Dune. I've only met one person. So much to talk about. :(

I'd also like my phone to warn me when I meet a new person if they're an *******. Is that in the patent?

You're right. It would be an interesting sort of "badge" to put your interests in your profile. You could pick and choose what it says about you or the other person to put something in your tags.

"Princess Bride, MacRumors, Banana Quick, I Hate the Family Circus" sort of thing. :)

arn

X-JRO
Jun 16, 2011, 06:18 AM
There are already apps like this for that one of my gay friends uses; 'Grinder'

(no homo)

chaosbunny
Jun 16, 2011, 06:21 AM
Yes, it's way creepy. That's why Facebook will implement it first and without asking us.

Then when the privacy advocates start complaining, they give you a complicated opt out that nobody understands.

This whole trend is not so much about helping people, but about mining our interests for money.

Might be that I'm just overreacting after seeing a garbage truck advertising the municipal garbage collector's Facebook page. I mean ???????

So true. That's also why I will not be using iCloud.

Truffy
Jun 16, 2011, 06:22 AM
...despite the desperate come-on! I have standards, you know.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/loc.jpg

velocityg4
Jun 16, 2011, 06:23 AM
This will be a great tool for nut jobs and thieves.

You can go to a rich neighborhood at night. Lock on to nearly everyone that lives there. Then set your system to track them all for a week or two. Now you have everyone's routines so you can ransack with ease.

Now for predators, if you see that pretty girl in a car zooming by. You can finally lock on get her name, routine, address, public records everything! To more efficiently augment your stalking routine and eventual assault. All this is done automatically while you go to work, make a skin suit and ready your pit, "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. "

At least Apple would plan on making this optional. Though it will probably be turned on by default. 95% of the people using it would not know it is there. Or if they do know and are too fearful of technological problems to turn it off. Worrying that doing so will break something else or cause their phone to stop working.

interestedabit
Jun 16, 2011, 06:26 AM
That sound you here is Apple scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Fully agree. It's not just apple thought, look at all the social media sites, they are all trying to hard to do everything for you, to make you wear a tshirt showing everything you like in life - finding you bands you might like to listen to based on what you already listen to etc. Turning you into a clone. Predictable clone.

Time to listen to OK Computer again.

Popeye206
Jun 16, 2011, 06:34 AM
Hummm.... I'm surprised at how many negative comments this has gotten.

I think this could be cool. Especially for people who are single or for event or special interests purposes where you might be able to meet people with similar interests. I think its all about how you're matched with someone.

However, I can see some big downsides too. But if it's "opt in", what the heck. They should just turn this over to a 3rd party and let them develop this so they can worry about more pressing issues.

dsdxp
Jun 16, 2011, 06:37 AM
Did anyone notice the edge-to-edge screen on the iphone in this picture?

NightFox
Jun 16, 2011, 06:38 AM
Sooo tempted to change my avatar...

NightFox
Jun 16, 2011, 06:40 AM
Did anyone notice the edge-to-edge screen on the iphone in this picture?

Think they've used this template for the patents for quite a while now IIRC. Note the 'border', it's more like an iP4 with the Apple case thing on.

Winni
Jun 16, 2011, 06:41 AM
As creepy as it sounds, there are definitely some interesting location-based ideas out there. I mean at a party it might be nice to know who is there or not. It also might be nice to get a roster of names and faces, if everyone had a profile.

Also there are other apps that try to let people hold a chat room or conversation in the background. It's all very interesting stuff. Not sure how well Apple would do with it.

arn

There was a time when people used to talk face to face and drink a beer together. This iNonsense only makes people more lonely than they already are. Virtual chat rooms can neither replace nor actually support or improve real social interaction.

There is one thing that a TV and a smartphone have in common: Their most important hardware feature is the "power off" button.

macnisse
Jun 16, 2011, 06:43 AM
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"Opt-in only" == only way for Apple (or anyone else) to possibly go fwd w this. Anybody heard of any market research tapping into this area, eg how many would actually be interested in using this kind of service?

840quadra
Jun 16, 2011, 06:44 AM
There was a time when people used to talk face to face and drink a beer together. This iNonsense only makes people more lonely than they already are. Virtual chat rooms can neither replace nor actually support or improve real social interaction.

There is one thing that a TV and a smartphone have in common: Their most important hardware feature is the "power off" button.

The funny thing is, I have met a lot of close, personal friends using Technology. From back in the AOL chat days, up to now with modern Twitter / Facebook groups.

I do see these people at social events, have taken trips with them, even helped many of them move. I think Technology is a great supplement to personal interaction, even a catalyst to meeting more people, than it is isolation.

It all depends on how the individual uses the tools provided.

Bodypainter
Jun 16, 2011, 06:46 AM
this is Sick! on One Side Apple is playing the moral apostele and treats a browser like porn (you need to be 18 to download it!) and on the other side they plan a system that is stalkers heaven and allows a child to be discovered by his next possible pedophile raper!

ratzzo
Jun 16, 2011, 06:48 AM
Also, has anyone noticed that in the patent images, the screen goes from edge to edge? ;)

nwcs
Jun 16, 2011, 06:50 AM
Sounds like eHarmony for iPhone.

AAPLaday
Jun 16, 2011, 06:50 AM
The funny thing is, I have met a lot of close, personal friends using Technology. From back in the AOL chat days, up to now with modern Twitter / Facebook groups.

I do see these people at social events, have taken trips with them, even helped many of them move. I think Technology is a great supplement to personal interaction, even a catalyst to meeting more people, than it is isolation.

It all depends on how the individual uses the tools provided.

Agreed.
I talk to a lot of people i wouldn't have had the chance to if it wasn't for Twitter. Through common interests i have become good mates with a few of them. Its a great way of finding people who like the same things you do. Macrumors also has a great community spirit. We can all talk and discuss the latest technology. Im not so sure about the dating part of it but its cool for making new mates.

Dagless
Jun 16, 2011, 06:50 AM
This could be interesting.

I remember when the Twitter app had a map of location-enabled tweets. It was fun perusing my village for locals to follow. Infact that very system got me a couple of freelance jobs.

I'd like to see this implemented for Game Centre. I've only got 2 friends on that because none of my gaming buddies have an iPhone/iPod touch, or use them for games.

mixel
Jun 16, 2011, 06:54 AM
There was a time when people used to talk face to face and drink a beer together. This iNonsense only makes people more lonely than they already are.
Pfft. I can think of at least one situation I've been in where something like this would have been helpful, specifically in identifying *who* to reach out and communicate with.

The situations it would be useful in aren't ones it would be replacing. e.g., I was at a zombie film festival.. Obviously everyone there had a love of zombie films, and I would probably get on with most of them - but there were hundreds of people.. You can't talk to all of them to find out who's into what, can you? It could help you isolate people you'd really like to talk to. It'd be good for finding people to arrange games with etc too. If used well it couldn't do any harm, just help people meet & find common ground.

Popeye206
Jun 16, 2011, 06:55 AM
There was a time when people used to talk face to face and drink a beer together. This iNonsense only makes people more lonely than they already are. Virtual chat rooms can neither replace nor actually support or improve real social interaction.

There is one thing that a TV and a smartphone have in common: Their most important hardware feature is the "power off" button.

My goodness.... for once I agree with you! :eek: LOL!

Really, I think for some the addiction to "on-line" is detrimental. As much as I love chit chatting and following sites like this, I also make sure I hit the "off" button and go out and live. Now I wish I could get people to understand that just because I have a cell phone does not mean I'm available 24/7 and when I don't answer that does not mean call back 20 times. :rolleyes: A true downside to technology... there are times I want to be unavailable.

In some ways, this proposed App could actually promote more face to face interaction. It will be interesting to see where we're all at 10 years down the road and how mobile technology is affecting our lives.

hunter-au
Jun 16, 2011, 07:00 AM
is this a drawing of the iphone 5 with 4" screen and edge to edge display

Thunderhawks
Jun 16, 2011, 07:02 AM
They are running out of ideas.

Also, I wouldn't date the girl in that pic :rolleyes:

Not so fast Sir Galahan.

What if she had millions $$$$$$$?

ratzzo
Jun 16, 2011, 07:08 AM
Not so fast Sir Galahan.

What if she had millions $$$$$$$?

Haha, we know the answer don't we :p

Thunderhawks
Jun 16, 2011, 07:09 AM
My goodness.... for once I agree with you! :eek: LOL!

Really, I think for some the addiction to "on-line" is detrimental. As much as I love chit chatting and following sites like this, I also make sure I hit the "off" button and go out and live. Now I wish I could get people to understand that just because I have a cell phone does not mean I'm available 24/7 and when I don't answer that does not mean call back 20 times. :rolleyes: A true downside to technology... there are times I want to be unavailable.

In some ways, this proposed App could actually promote more face to face interaction. It will be interesting to see where we're all at 10 years down the road and how mobile technology is affecting our lives.

LOL, I always want to be unavailable. I have business people who literally terrorize me if I don't pick up immediately. Call, text AND e-mail.
They can't understand that I may have been on another call.
And, it is never urgent or an emergency.

There also is an iDisease. At lunches or dinners people put their phone on the table in a restaurant, so they can see if somebody calls.
They then can't even concentrate on a conversation with you because they check every 30 seconds worried they'd miss a text or call or e-mail.

I have also seen our future generation gathering in a large group for dinner at a restaurant and everybody is on their phones. Nobody talks to their friends at the table. They even text and take calls in between bites once the food arrives.

That's supposed to be social networking?

iDisease

d4rkc4sm
Jun 16, 2011, 07:13 AM
fail written all over this one

mikejfrd
Jun 16, 2011, 07:14 AM
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Online dating with a GPS twist... How is this any different then all of the online dating sites that millions of people use? Those people are more concerned with getting a date than they are privacy so I'm sure this would catch on to that population quickly.

Look at your Facebook!! There are people who post EVERYTHING about everywhere they go and everything they do throughout the day. Do you really think that those people would have a problem with this feature/ap??

iTeleport
Jun 16, 2011, 07:30 AM
An excellent idea, and this is the way the web is moving.

Apple has an awful lot of information that defines a person — and it has the platform to add more data-gathering apps.

This is all fine, if I'm happy for this data to be analysed to help create a better product for me then that's great. If I want to switch it off or not be analysed at all, I'm sure Apple will learn from Facebook's mistakes and create some solid privacy settings.

Now, I need to start downloading some cool music and apps . . .

Tiger8
Jun 16, 2011, 07:33 AM
eHarmony.com meets iPhone! lol

NightFox
Jun 16, 2011, 07:34 AM
is this a drawing of the iphone 5 with 4" screen and edge to edge display

Why do people keep saying this? Am I the only one who can see the big thick border, presumably representing an iPhone 4 in the standard Apple case?

Discoverer
Jun 16, 2011, 07:37 AM
I am fairly sure that many people on this forum would use this feature.

Certinfy
Jun 16, 2011, 07:38 AM
That's an... interesting way of meeting new people :rolleyes:

steadysignal
Jun 16, 2011, 07:39 AM
I don't think this will catch on. Lots of people want privacy.

bingo. the social and crowd sourcing concepts are going too far. hopefully this will be an opt-in function.

baryon
Jun 16, 2011, 07:42 AM
This is lame.

hunter-au
Jun 16, 2011, 07:42 AM
if the dotted line is the screen, is it normaly that close to the home button.
it just looked to close to me, could be wrong

cburton
Jun 16, 2011, 07:42 AM
I believe this will be as popular and useful as Ping.

Truffy
Jun 16, 2011, 07:46 AM
Am I the only one who can see the big thick border, presumably representing an iPhone 4 in the standard Apple case?
That's the bumper on the iPhone 5, unless you're assuming that Apple will introduce a new antenna that actually works like other phones? :D

iAshley
Jun 16, 2011, 07:50 AM
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What's that next to the home button, LED notification light?

DJ Dilbert
Jun 16, 2011, 07:53 AM
iLonely

iCreepster
iStalker
iStalk-Her (lol)
iSpy (not the book)
iNeedalife

Kentochan
Jun 16, 2011, 08:00 AM
And to think parts of Facebook was too much... This is really creepy.

NachoGrande
Jun 16, 2011, 08:01 AM
I'm so tired of these endless patents. Apple, Samsung, Nokia have all become patent trolls.

Rubber
Jun 16, 2011, 08:05 AM
Haha... people are getting another reason to realize they're lonely and here's a quick fix. When this app is out there - they will go for it!
Apple knows what they're doing. People are simple.

iNeverLonenly!

jonnysods
Jun 16, 2011, 08:05 AM
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The de-evolution of human interaction.

ChristianJapan
Jun 16, 2011, 08:20 AM
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pushed result of automatic data mining -> opt out already now
Same No-level of interesst as ping.
Only exceptabe if I have to actively push item into a data pool to be shared and matched.

Name proposal: iBorg

We are the iBorg. Lower your shields and surrender your iPhone (or iCloud). We will add your technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

Hastings101
Jun 16, 2011, 08:25 AM
Other than being totally creepy I'm sure it would have some usefulness. Maybe it would help someone severely lacking social skills make friends by giving them easy conversation ideas? Seems pretty stalkerish though.

kepardue
Jun 16, 2011, 08:29 AM
The National Infidelity Council thanks Apple for their contribution.

Arcadie
Jun 16, 2011, 08:29 AM
girl in pic = creepy.
creepy girl knowing i am 15 years north west of her = super creepy

Necross
Jun 16, 2011, 08:32 AM
Awesome! They just need to integrate it with google maps and it'll be the perfect stalker tool.

NightFox
Jun 16, 2011, 08:34 AM
I would def want to hang with that chick in the picture...She is wearing the captains "C". She must be important

That's not a letter "C", it's her ear.

Cheerwino
Jun 16, 2011, 08:37 AM
I would def want to hang with that chick in the picture...She is wearing the captains "C". She must be important

Could have been a red "A". :D

triceretops
Jun 16, 2011, 08:39 AM
Yes, I want to meet people that the only thing in common is we both own iPhones - NOT!

dalexa
Jun 16, 2011, 08:39 AM
apple is way behind in this.

fox already show that (the idea at least) in two shows of them, "bones" and "lie to me".

batchtaster
Jun 16, 2011, 08:44 AM
Already been tried (http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Friendship_Algorithm).

macnews
Jun 16, 2011, 08:51 AM
I can see this being a thing some people are interested in, perhaps a lot of people. That being said, I want Apple to stay focused on the device and hardware not some software "feature" that could be a flash in the pan thing. Create an app fine but would prefer they even leave that to a third party.

zergy
Jun 16, 2011, 08:52 AM
I think the 3DS has a similar feature, at least according to Yahtzee's review over at escapist magazine (in which he proceeds to plot similar, terrible things to do with it...)

Perhaps this patent is simply Apple's contingency plan or competition in the case that catches on, or perhaps more signiifcantly it represents an overhaul or improvement to Ping which, imho is still kind of 'meh' and is in danger of going the route of mobileme.

I am still really surprised how many of my younger relatives (6-10yr) have iOS devices, they really are the largest user base other than college kids in my exp. I am surprised b/c I will probably not let my kid have one, since I remember outsmarting my parents and getting around the blocks on ol' AOL :rolleyes:

this is prob just Apple's experiments in postulating what the next phase of 'social networking' might be...

Lesser Evets
Jun 16, 2011, 08:52 AM
iStalk

That's not a letter "C", it's her ear.

She' done a VanGogh and will mail it to you shortly.

Mainyehc
Jun 16, 2011, 08:54 AM
Cue rage comic based on her face in 3… 2… 1…

:D

Sixtafoua
Jun 16, 2011, 09:01 AM
Oh hot damn she sexxxyyy

Bernard SG
Jun 16, 2011, 09:05 AM
Already been tried (http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Friendship_Algorithm).

A lot of stuff Apple does has already been tried...
Well, what am I saying... EVERYTHING Apple does has already been tried.
The difference is execution.

Looks like a brilliant move, commercially.
Philosophically is another story. 'Social' in technology always leaves me skeptical. The only thing that I find a lil' bit positive is that the concept seems to be inviting people to actually meet up.

Mr_Brightside_@
Jun 16, 2011, 09:05 AM
I cracked up at "I will be known as SAM I AM"

kobiashi
Jun 16, 2011, 09:07 AM
. . . a person needs to discover like-minded or compatible people who have similar interests or experiences to him or her.

Wait . . . what happened to the politically correct awesomeness of diversity?

Identifying new persons with common interests for friendships is difficult. For example, when two strangers meet, it may take a long and awkward conversation to discover their common interests or experiences.

Yeah, heaven forbid that you actually have to interact with people.

Does anyone else think this is insane? Just me? Right now Alvin Toffler must be shaking his head and thinking WTF!?!?!?!

Here's an idea. If this comes to market, someone should hack Jobs phone so that this feature is always on. Then all Apple zealots . . . er . . . I mean "like minded people" can instantly find him and pay him a visit. Then let's see how long this cool app lasts.

codymac
Jun 16, 2011, 09:10 AM
Interesting that they're attempting to patent an application that's already on their store: Grindr.

Thunderhawks
Jun 16, 2011, 09:14 AM
I cracked up at "I will be known as SAM I AM"

Hope it's not Son of Sam.

reactions
Jun 16, 2011, 09:15 AM
iRandom sex

Nice apple - I guess shy dorks need booty too :cool:

ejb190
Jun 16, 2011, 09:15 AM
Phone numbers and contacts can be compared, as well as common bookmarks or games played on device.

This could be fun. Imagine the software lets you know that the guy you are sitting next to has some of the same phone numbers in his phone book as you do.

Maybe your doctor...
Your Divorce Attorney...
Your ex-wife...
Your teenage daughter...

Noodlefarmer
Jun 16, 2011, 09:23 AM
No thanks. I will stick with my inflatable doll.

SeattleMoose
Jun 16, 2011, 09:27 AM
seriously. :(

maclaptop
Jun 16, 2011, 09:30 AM
How...creepy.

x10

You... Have Said It Best :)

If the poor fanbois can't make friends without this, their future is very bleak indeed.

torbjoern
Jun 16, 2011, 09:30 AM
This could be fun. Imagine the software lets you know that the guy you are sitting next to has some of the same phone numbers in his phone book as you do.

Maybe your doctor...
Your Divorce Attorney...
Your ex-wife...
Your teenage daughter...

He better get soap-on-a-rope. And if he's not already sitting down, I'll tell him to "have a seat right over there".

Bernard SG
Jun 16, 2011, 09:31 AM
No thanks. I will stick with my inflatable doll.

Does it have 3G and a front-facing camera?

3goldens
Jun 16, 2011, 09:32 AM
spare me!

morespce54
Jun 16, 2011, 09:34 AM
...For example. GPS tracking could identify people who have traveled to the same locations. Phone numbers and contacts can be compared, as well as common bookmarks or games played on device. Overall the application is a fascinating read. They even suggest that facial recognition features could be used to identify common contacts.


I think it's funny :D

So it could be something like: "Someone with a big nose is in your neighborhood right now. Do you want to ping him?" ;)

I don't know about the "common bookmarks" part 'tho...:o

morespce54
Jun 16, 2011, 09:38 AM
...It could make breaking the ice at random social gatherings interesting...

It gives a whole new meaning to "speed dating"... (as in: it's so speedy you don't even need to meet!) ;)

morespce54
Jun 16, 2011, 09:40 AM
= I think I dated her.

No one would ever date her twice. :p

Well, she's a very nice girl, very sweet, just so you know... ;)

ericmooreart
Jun 16, 2011, 09:47 AM
Apples time would be better spent refreshing the Mac Mini. 366 days and counting

batchtaster
Jun 16, 2011, 09:50 AM
A lot of stuff Apple does has already been tried...

Next time you might want to actually check the link first.

Norkusa
Jun 16, 2011, 10:03 AM
ugh, never mind.

AppleScruff1
Jun 16, 2011, 10:09 AM
Absolutely idiotic.

tjcampbell
Jun 16, 2011, 10:11 AM
I know how the iPhone can help you lose old friends.

Fiddling with it during a conversation is one way.

You ever talk to someone and they're checking their facebook? Annoying:eek:

techdogg
Jun 16, 2011, 10:17 AM
iLonely

Or perhaps, iBootyCall

Noodlefarmer
Jun 16, 2011, 10:29 AM
iAmAPatheticLoser

martlet
Jun 16, 2011, 10:37 AM
It's iGrindr ;) lol

carldavidguta
Jun 16, 2011, 10:41 AM
I don't get why people are freaking out. There is clearly an option for being invisible!!!

I would love to see this feature in iOS. Imagine how much more time you could spend with your friends if you can see where they are. "Oh he/she's close, let's catch up!" Come on people! :)

MacVault
Jun 16, 2011, 10:57 AM
This was done in 1998 with the Lovegetty...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovegetty

I remember first hearing about it on the Art Bell Coast to Coast show :D

Antares
Jun 16, 2011, 11:06 AM
I don't understand all of the negativity about this. It seems like a great way to meet people with similar interests. Like something that will foster real, in-person interaction instead of virtual on-line stuff. This seems to be about actually meeting someone face to face. What's creepy about that?

Once you are out of school, it's difficult to meet people with similar interests. As long as you can choose what is shared and that sharing is completely optional, what's the problem?

afireintonto
Jun 16, 2011, 11:10 AM
has anyone ever read "super sad true love story"?
this is like a page out of that book!!
seems cool, but i'm sure no one will use it:/

ajohnson253
Jun 16, 2011, 11:20 AM
hahaha I'm done haha this is took much.

Brother Esau
Jun 16, 2011, 11:21 AM
Profiling at its best, why not make fashionable and appealing and people will accept it as normal in time.

Our society is becoming or should I say already is way to dysfunctional!

kdarling
Jun 16, 2011, 11:26 AM
Suddenly the bleak future in those Twilight Zone episodes, where people become helpless when their internet and comm devices fail, seems closer than ever...

Jeez, soon no bodily fluid exchanges, either.

And how the heck do you use those three seashells, anyway?

sswanky
Jun 16, 2011, 11:28 AM
I'd prefer my device to broadcast, "stay away, don't bother me," especially when on the subway. :p

nagromme
Jun 16, 2011, 11:30 AM
Isn’t this just viral marketing for that fall 2011 horror movie? “Sam I Am,” based on the Stephen King short story “Samantha."

The trailer shows a phone saying “Sam I Am is 15 Yards Away From You” and then a scream. And a glimpse of some wide-headed, one-eyed, stringy-haired subhuman creature very much like the one in that “patent illustration.”

oldwatery
Jun 16, 2011, 11:42 AM
This is so creepy and a real indictment on where our society is headed right now.
I'm sure that many out there love the direction Apple is taking of late.
Me...I'm one who hates it in most ways and see myself jumping ship for the first time since I bought my first Mac over 2 decades ago.
Big Brother is alive and well and living in Cupertino.

e-coli
Jun 16, 2011, 11:44 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

This strikes me as pretty sad.

Then again, I'm married and met my wife the old fashioned way; while drinking. :)

oldwatery
Jun 16, 2011, 11:46 AM
has anyone ever read "super sad true love story"?
this is like a page out of that book!!
seems cool, but i'm sure no one will use it:/

Actually you should read "The Machine Stops" by E.M. Forster if you think this concept is chilling. In his story he fortells the whole internet and social thing and he wrote it in 1909 :eek:

ChipmunkTX
Jun 16, 2011, 11:53 AM
There are already apps like this for that one of my gay friends uses; 'Grinder'


I was thinking the same thing. This will apeal to those looking to "Hook Up"...there are plenty of gays who use Grindr, Skruff, etc. This has its (although small and not mainstream) market!

morespce54
Jun 16, 2011, 12:14 PM
...Imagine how much more time you could spend with your friends if you can see where they are. "Oh he/she's close, let's catch up!" Come on people! :)

...And me saying: Dargn, they spotted me. Better start moving faster! ;)

YourHerojb
Jun 16, 2011, 12:26 PM
I would share my contact list with her ;)

shinypotato
Jun 16, 2011, 12:27 PM
I'm in total shock. Almost everything about that patent, including the screen shots, is nearly identical to an app I've been working on for the past 4 months.

Anyone have any advice for a young app developer who just had his 80% complete app patented by the worlds largest tech company?

SkippyThorson
Jun 16, 2011, 12:46 PM
Looks like this will be great for meeting people who have had strokes.

That's it. Thread over. :p

I lol'ed... Lots.

I just read the article about Apple's new social networking patent and I have to say I'm in total shock. Almost everything about that patent, including the screen shots, is nearly identical to an app I've been working on for the past 4 months.

Anyone have any advice for a young app developer who just had his 80% complete app patented by the worlds largest tech company?

As a fellow MacRumors member, I have to express how much I feel that must suck. However, there's not much, if anything, you can do. It's not like Apple knowingly outed you. Did you have anything patented or protected?

You're free to release your App as you please, but just be aware that Apple may release its counter-app at any time. Most of these patented things never happen though, they're mostly there just in case they ever do - and Apple has a TON of patents.

As Apple, I'm sure they'd just say too bad, and laugh at any legal action you ever pursue.

CFreymarc
Jun 16, 2011, 12:52 PM
How...creepy.

Not only that but a similar app was shown at the CTIA show about ten years ago. It had you put a personality / compatibility check on a web site. When a fellow subscriber that matched your profile was within a few blocks of you, the service would connected the two in a conversation where neither knew each others phone number. Both paid a premium to get the "matching" phone call.

It was up and running, not a single carrier took service. Many saw hot young girls getting hammered with calls from guys which in turn would make the carrier look bad. This is one of those patents that should be licensed to a third party and tried without the Apple name getting connected to what some call "creeperware."

CFreymarc
Jun 16, 2011, 12:56 PM
I just read the article about Apple's new social networking patent and I have to say I'm in total shock. Almost everything about that patent, including the screen shots, is nearly identical to an app I've been working on for the past 4 months.

Anyone have any advice for a young app developer who just had his 80% complete app patented by the worlds largest tech company?

Yup, you may have a few options.

1) Approach Apple and show how close you are, try to license or better get hired by Apple.
2) Change your app and business plan so it is not infringing.
3) Find an overseas third party that will sell your app in a jurisdiction that doesn't extradite that patent.

Also, take this as a hard real world lesson. You need to learn the basics of patent law at the least if you are in this business. Also filing a few patents on your own does not hurt at all. I have seen indies rolled into start-ups just on their personal patent filings. Do this right and your can pay off your parents mortgage on one of their anniversaries.

NeilP
Jun 16, 2011, 12:59 PM
Yes, I see how this can be creepy, but I also see how it can be cool. I go to bars to dance, but most people go to drink or cruise. It would be nice to know which girls are there to dance and what kind of dancing they do and even what kind of music they like. Then, when I hear a song I like, I check which girls like that kind of music and do that dance, say Salsa, and ask one to dance through the app. She probably would have already checked me out on the app and seen video of me dancing, so she knows I can dance and will likely say yes. Otherwise, I can quickly ask another girl through the app without having to walk all the way across the club to approach each one.

morespce54
Jun 16, 2011, 01:03 PM
I just read the article about Apple's new social networking patent and I have to say I'm in total shock. Almost everything about that patent, including the screen shots, is nearly identical to an app I've been working on for the past 4 months.

Anyone have any advice for a young app developer who just had his 80% complete app patented by the worlds largest tech company?

The only advice I could give you, unfortunately, would be to start working on something else... :(


EDIT:

Or see CFreymarc suggestions above.

CFreymarc
Jun 16, 2011, 01:06 PM
Yes, I see how this can be creepy, but I also see how it can be cool. I go to bars to dance, but most people go to drink or cruise. It would be nice to know which girls are there to dance and what kind of dancing they do and even what kind of music they like. Then, when I hear a song I like, I check which girls like that kind of music and do that dance, say Salsa, and ask one to dance through the app. She probably would have already checked me out on the app and seen video of me dancing, so she knows I can dance and will likely say yes. Otherwise, I can quickly ask another girl through the app without having to walk all the way across the club to approach each one.

There are a lot of people trying to do this with an advertisement revenue stream. One I saw in public demo actually had an AR thing going where the people on the dance floor has jewelry on that sent out a radio signal that the phone would pick up. You point the camera in that direction, an graphical overlay would show with the person's handle and what they are looking for at the club. Some was talk, some was to get laid. However, the issue is that social scenes mix quickly and I cannot see this being fluid enough to fit in a social setting. Girls in particular want to see a guy and will decided individually. Stuff like this will not get the cellar-dweller neckbeards laid.

shinypotato
Jun 16, 2011, 01:48 PM
Yup, you may have a few options.

1) Approach Apple and show how close you are, try to license or better get hired by Apple.
2) Change your app and business plan so it is not infringing.
3) Find an overseas third party that will sell your app in a jurisdiction that doesn't extradite that patent.

Also, take this as a hard real world lesson. You need to learn the basics of patent law at the least if you are in this business. Also filing a few patents on your own does not hurt at all. I have seen indies rolled into start-ups just on their personal patent filings. Do this right and your can pay off your parents mortgage on one of their anniversaries.

The problem is that Apple secretly filed the patent long before I started working on the idea, so A) any patent application I could pursue would be superseded by theirs and B) I had no way of knowing they had the idea first until today, 4 months into development!

freiheit
Jun 16, 2011, 02:01 PM
Help you make new friend? Well lots of people want to be your "friend" when they see you've got enough money to buy a SmartPhone and pay for both a service plan and a data plan on a monthly basis.

sleazy
Jun 16, 2011, 03:02 PM
sounds good

charlituna
Jun 16, 2011, 03:43 PM
I'm in total shock. Almost everything about that patent, including the screen shots, is nearly identical to an app I've been working on for the past 4 months.

Anyone have any advice for a young app developer who just had his 80% complete app patented by the worlds largest tech company?

You have a few choices

1. Give up
2. Finish it and submit it feigning ignorance and see if you impress them with your app
3. Finish it and release it on Cydia and hope they don't threaten you
4. Contact them and try to license the patent for your app
5. Find proof that you came up with the idea first and sue them

SandynJosh
Jun 16, 2011, 04:02 PM
There was a time when people used to talk face to face and drink a beer together. This iNonsense only makes people more lonely than they already are. Virtual chat rooms can neither replace nor actually support or improve real social interaction.

In those long ago times, AKA, "the good ol'' days," a guy wouldn't get maced for saying "Hello."

On another note, Apple HAS to get a better artist in their patent application department. This drawing of the blind date I once had who's friend assured me, "she has a nice personality."

sn
Jun 16, 2011, 04:04 PM
clockwork orange.

SandynJosh
Jun 16, 2011, 04:10 PM
I'm in total shock. Almost everything about that patent, including the screen shots, is nearly identical to an app I've been working on for the past 4 months.

Anyone have any advice for a young app developer who just had his 80% complete app patented by the worlds largest tech company?

You may be totally screwed, however...can you copyright your code? Have they only a patent on the "idea," which you can maybe show is/was not unique to only Apple? If they have no code, just the idea, does that make a difference? You may need a patent attorney.

3.1416
Jun 16, 2011, 05:29 PM
1. I don't see how this is a worse way of meeting people than going to bars or clubs, or randomly approaching strangers.

2. The patent should not be granted, possibly unless it's very narrowly tailored. As several people have noted, there are similar systems going back years. Of course given the incompetence of the USPTO, it probably will be.

kalsta
Jun 16, 2011, 07:00 PM
So it could be something like: "Someone with a big nose is in your neighborhood right now. Do you want to ping him?"

ROFL. I know forum rules don't like 'lol' posts, but… I don't know, for some reason that image was just too funny not to.

kalsta
Jun 16, 2011, 07:18 PM
It looks like you're trying to make a new friend.

Would you like to:

• Get to know a little more about the person by verbally communicating with them

• Skip all that unnecessary human-like behaviour and have me compile a compatibility rating based on your App Store purchases?

http://stage.stc-psc.org/newsletter/images/clippy.jpg

This is just so nerdy… and yes, a little creepy too. In real life, you just connect with some people whereas others you don't, and I'm betting there's no algorithm for it that any computer technology we currently possess can predetermine. The technology is already built into your brain, and it's accessed via a VAUI (Visual and Auditory User Interface). You just need to get out there and start interfacing with other humans.

nagromme
Jun 16, 2011, 08:12 PM
Actually you should read "The Machine Stops" by E.M. Forster if you think this concept is chilling. In his story he fortells the whole internet and social thing and he wrote it in 1909 :eek:

Cool—I’ll check it out.

And don’t be too panicked about Apple over a patent: they patent a TON of crazy stuff, all the time, and almost none of it ever sees the light of day. If they have an idea worth patenting, they do it, to protect their options.

Certainly, though, if anything related to it did see the light of day, it would be opt-in. You wouldn’t have to boycott Apple to not use it.

iCrizzo
Jun 17, 2011, 07:58 AM
This is basically copying Color's concept except instead of pictures, it will be friends.

CFreymarc
Jun 17, 2011, 10:26 AM
The problem is that Apple secretly filed the patent long before I started working on the idea, so A) any patent application I could pursue would be superseded by theirs and B) I had no way of knowing they had the idea first until today, 4 months into development!

You just lost your virginity. Welcome to the world of coding sluts. Now get in a new position!

Prof.
Jun 17, 2011, 11:11 AM
How is this creepy? One million+ people use a similar app every day: Grindr. :D

LandOfTech
Jun 17, 2011, 12:33 PM
i'm all for it... since im lonely :(

justperry
Jun 17, 2011, 02:17 PM
No thanks. I will stick with my inflatable doll.

Does it have 3G and a front-facing camera?

No, it's secondhand :eek:

bretm
Jun 18, 2011, 07:23 AM
Well, she's a very nice girl, very sweet, just so you know... ;)

I clearly see an Adams apple.