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technocoy
Mar 29, 2005, 12:08 AM
Since memorystick is to god awful pricey for decent movie storage on any realistic level, i just realized the coolest use for the video feature. the first is my cartoon network collection (clone wars and aqua teen). and the second is using the iTunes script to download my favorite videos! one of my suggestions would be "ribbon" and "the shouty track". great videos.

just chiming in.
technocoy



GFLPraxis
Mar 29, 2005, 12:35 AM
Since memorystick is to god awful pricey for decent movie storage on any realistic level, i just realized the coolest use for the video feature. the first is my cartoon network collection (clone wars and aqua teen). and the second is using the iTunes script to download my favorite videos! one of my suggestions would be "ribbon" and "the shouty track". great videos.

just chiming in.
technocoy

Thats the one use I would have for the PSP's video function- the Clone Wars cartoon. w00t. I have episodes 1-20 on my HD already and intend to add the newly released 21-25.

Since the DS PDA software is supposed to be a PalmOS port, it should be able to play videos, so I can hopefully put them on the DS...

angelneo
Mar 29, 2005, 02:07 AM
Although I don't own a PSP but I used to convert sitcoms to portable format and put onto my mobile phone to watch as well. Unfortunately, this has a side-effect; unable to control my laughter on bus trips resulting in people giving me weird looks.....

yelp, I have given up doing that....

HiRez
Mar 29, 2005, 06:45 AM
If I had a PSP, what I would do is make myself an MPEG-4 movie of me playing WoW, then play it on the PSP while I mash buttons to make people think I was beta-testing a secret PSP WoW version. And of course when they ask to play it I can just say I can't because of the NDA.

chameeeleon
Mar 29, 2005, 07:16 AM
Lol Hirez, that's actually mildly clever.

I was going to buy a PSP solely for the video aspect (I like my portable games simple, ala Yoshi's Touch and Go) but at the moment it really doesn't make all that hot of a player. Memory Stick's are only up to 1 Gig or like 3 dramas/6 sitcoms, and I'm not going to pay $20 for UMDs. Plus I'd only watch videos on the thing like maybe once a month.
There was a cool iPod screen that was going to read movies off the harddrive a while ago... It's probably really expensive though. Will Google it after (speaking of which, has anyone read the Spotlight PDF and noticed Apple's attempt at using Spotlight as a verb? "You can right click on any word to Spotlight it", or "Have a contact who you'd like to Spotlight" or whatever. I'm surprised they aren't calling it "You can right click on any word to put it in the Spotlight", lol)

Yvan256
Mar 29, 2005, 07:35 AM
If I had a PSP, what I would do is make myself an MPEG-4 movie of me playing WoW, then play it on the PSP while I mash buttons to make people think I was beta-testing a secret PSP WoW version. And of course when they ask to play it I can just say I can't because of the NDA.

LOL, nice idea... :D

You could also do the same with, say, Metroid Prime 2, and tell people you're beta-testing a GameCube emulator. ;)

dan-o-mac
Mar 29, 2005, 10:05 AM
Well I tried to put a video clip in my friends PSP this weekend and it was a pain in the a$$. Conversion of a five minute porno clip took about thirty minutes, the video would show up on the PSP, but the PSP would freeze when you try to play it. In time I guess you'll find special PSP formated movies on your favorite Bittorrent site. just seems like too much work for me personally. 1 gig stick is kinda pricey also. can't wait to see what kind of hacks they come up for this machine, Emulators would be great. depending on the size of the games i'm sure someone will also figure out how to put the games on a memory stick, wouldn't that be nice.

shortyjj
Mar 29, 2005, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE=dan-o-mac]on your favorite Bittorrent site. [QUOTE]

recommendations?

HiRez
Mar 29, 2005, 10:43 AM
Well I tried to put a video clip in my friends PSP this weekend and it was a pain in the a$$. Conversion of a five minute porno clip took about thirty minutes, the video would show up on the PSP, but the PSP would freeze when you try to play it.I read one review that said the PSP won't play movies (that you encode yourself) at sizes larger than 320x240. Seems wrong, but who knows? It could have a lot to do with the settings you use and what you use to encode it, just like how in the early days of JPEG there were many problems with compatibility, or how we have all kinds of issues now with the different HDTV formats and devices. H.264 is a new codec, I'm sure everyone hasn't gotten it completely right yet (possibly including Sony).

MacManDan
Mar 29, 2005, 11:07 AM
Well I tried to put a video clip in my friends PSP this weekend and it was a pain in the a$$. Conversion of a five minute porno clip took about thirty minutes, the video would show up on the PSP, but the PSP would freeze when you try to play it. In time I guess you'll find special PSP formated movies on your favorite Bittorrent site. just seems like too much work for me personally. 1 gig stick is kinda pricey also. can't wait to see what kind of hacks they come up for this machine, Emulators would be great. depending on the size of the games i'm sure someone will also figure out how to put the games on a memory stick, wouldn't that be nice.

Wow, something went very wrong there. I can transcode a video on my three-year-old powerbook in only double the length of the video (so, it transcodes a 5 min clip in 10 mins). Takes only 5 clicks (including double-clicking the program) and one drag-and-drop. I fit 2 hours of video in 430 megs, so that leaves plenty of room on a 512 duo.
I agree, hacks will be nice.. I'm waiting for the official browser to be released, should be nice.

HiRez: you are right about 320x240. There's some explanation for it, but it seemed like complete crap to me. I can't wait for someone to crack the ability to use native (480x262 or something) as the UMD uses.. Please forgive me if my data is incomplete, but based on my own experience and research I believe that these are the options:
Resolutions:
- 320x240
- 368x208 (16x9, native dimensions of screen and great for film. I have not tried this myself but people have done it with success by using PSPWare)
- smaller

FPS:
- 15 (meh)
- 30
* 24 (some people have had success. I can't use 24fps without the PSP playing it at 30fps, so the audio gets WAY out of sync just a few mins in)

bitrates:
- up to 1500 (using ffmpegX I find ~400 to be the sweet spot)

MacManDan
Mar 29, 2005, 11:18 AM
[QUOTE=dan-o-mac]on your favorite Bittorrent site. [QUOTE]

recommendations?

Not bittorrent, but try:
http://psp.connect.com/
http://www.29hdnetwork.com/psp_guide.html

chameeeleon:
Check Amazon.com, search for "UMD". You'll find that only one of the announced-but-not-yet-released videos is $20, the rest are $14. Granted, these titles aren't too great. There's rumor the price will come down yet again before they are released. I'm looking forward to cheaper UMDs, Kill Bill and Pirates of the Caribbean (not listed on Amazon but announced)..

To the original poster: I've transfered both movies and cartoons (Family guy) to my 512 stick with great success .. very cool and PSPWare helps add in Apple-like-ease-of-use. Overtime it will get cheaper and easier. Too bad I don't have enough scripting experience to help you out with your iTunes video script.. I would go for that too!

technocoy
Mar 29, 2005, 12:38 PM
you should give the script a try... it's super easy and you can just copy and paste it into the terminal... you go to iTunes (trailers or videos) and let the video load in completely. then you open your terminal window and paste the script in and hit enter... WHALLA! the file appears on your desktop and you just rename it so your next one doesn't save over it. it's great. do a search for iTunes video download script... you should find it pretty easily.

and i too downloaded some family guy last night and hooked it up. I love stewie!

enjoy!
technocoy

cb911
Mar 29, 2005, 05:50 PM
also CMI Studios are releasign their new tutorial videos in PSP format. that's a great idea. you can watch that stuff on the train or bus, then you're ready to do some cool stuff once you get to work. :D

MacManDan
Mar 29, 2005, 06:18 PM
you should give the script a try...
enjoy!
technocoy

technocoy,
wow! I misunderstood your first post. I thought you were LOOKING for a script that did this ;)
Thanks for the terrific hint ..
Heheh .. now we only need to script it to automatically transcode to PSP-friendly format

nightdweller25
Mar 29, 2005, 06:24 PM
Since they are supposed to start coming with the DS later this year, will there be any way for me to load the OS to my DS since it obviously doesn't have this?

GFLPraxis
Mar 29, 2005, 08:27 PM
Since they are supposed to start coming with the DS later this year, will there be any way for me to load the OS to my DS since it obviously doesn't have this?

There is very little concrete information on this.

All we know is that Nintendo has licensed PalmOS and it has something to do with V-Pocket.

Whether it will be on a cartridge, or pre-installed on special edition DS's, we don't know.

chameeeleon
Mar 29, 2005, 08:49 PM
chameeeleon:
Check Amazon.com, search for "UMD". You'll find that only one of the announced-but-not-yet-released videos is $20, the rest are $14. Granted, these titles aren't too great. There's rumor the price will come down yet again before they are released. I'm looking forward to cheaper UMDs, Kill Bill and Pirates of the Caribbean (not listed on Amazon but announced)..


Yeah, sorry I meant Canadian - they're like $21 each here, and DVDs are only usually $22 at Futureshop/Best Buy, so it's (in my opinion) a pretty huge ripoff. Something like $8-10 Cdn I could justify. There's not even any risk of the movie being ripped with it on UMD either!

raiderz182
Mar 29, 2005, 09:28 PM
what somebody needs to do is make a way to connect the psp to the ipod for massive storage :)

cb911
Mar 29, 2005, 11:08 PM
want to read RSS feeds on your PSP? ;)

check it out >> http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000013038102 :D

applekid
Mar 29, 2005, 11:24 PM
Just a reminder, no piracy posts on these forums. Some of you should watch what you're saying.

Anyhow, back on topic... Gotta say Clone Wars was pretty sweet. Glad I bought that DVD.

In all honesty, the only things I can actually imagine watching on a small screen like the PSP's are cartoons. Got plenty of DVDs and some Red vs. Blue; toss it on a PSP or whatever handheld it may be and be happy.

Linux is probably being ported to the PSP and DS as we speak. :p The PSP will have an easier time with its Memory Stick. For the DS, my guess is you'll need one of a developer's rewritable cartridge or the third-party ones that are slowly appearing.

GFLPraxis
Mar 30, 2005, 12:24 AM
Just a reminder, no piracy posts on these forums. Some of you should watch what you're saying.

Anyhow, back on topic... Gotta say Clone Wars was pretty sweet. Glad I bought that DVD.


When Clone Wars originally came out, it was free for the public, I downloaded most of the episodes legally off of AOL's official mirrors. Lucas later got the bright idea of charging for them :mad: Luckily I had already downloaded them. Legally.

Also, Chapters 21-25 are legally available in .mov format from starwars.com.


Linux is probably being ported to the PSP and DS as we speak. :p The PSP will have an easier time with its Memory Stick. For the DS, my guess is you'll need one of a developer's rewritable cartridge or the third-party ones that are slowly appearing.


Well there was psplinux.org, but it disappeared recently :(

dslinux.org has made progress though.
At the moment, they are using a custom built device that plugs into the top slot that boots up like a DS game, then runs whatever is in the GBA cartridge (you can buy GBA flash cartridges and put anything on them).

Later on they'll probably find other ways of doing it, say, having your Mac or PC send a downloadable boot file to it that boots up Linux off the GBA cart or something.

GFLPraxis
Mar 30, 2005, 12:33 AM
Found it!
http://www.psp-linux.org/

absolutmp5
Mar 30, 2005, 12:46 AM
if you would really like to put movies onto your psp, i highly recommend ffmpegx which has a psp preset. If you use that you should be fine.

Rezet
Mar 30, 2005, 12:56 AM
Isnt the point of video option - porn? No? Damn that sales rep. :eek: ;)

dan-o-mac
Mar 30, 2005, 02:43 PM
[QUOTE=shortyjj][QUOTE=dan-o-mac]on your favorite Bittorrent site. [QUOTE] We can't talk about that here.

And a big thanks for all the encoding tips. :cool:

shortyjj
Mar 30, 2005, 03:38 PM
[QUOTE=dan-o-mac][QUOTE=shortyjj][QUOTE=dan-o-mac]on your favorite Bittorrent site. [QUOTE] We can't talk about that here.

Quotes are obviously out of whack... it never occured to me: is it not kosher to talk about bittorrent sites or any site that may dabble in sharing of copyrighted material?

applekid
Mar 30, 2005, 07:04 PM
When Clone Wars originally came out, it was free for the public, I downloaded most of the episodes legally off of AOL's official mirrors. Lucas later got the bright idea of charging for them :mad: Luckily I had already downloaded them. Legally.

Hey, I hearya. No worries. I only got into the series when the site was still up since I don't have cable. Then I saw it at Costco for under $13 so I bought it. I was just making a general statement to everyone to keep the thread clean :)

Quotes are obviously out of whack... it never occured to me: is it not kosher to talk about bittorrent sites or any site that may dabble in sharing of copyrighted material?

If the tracker has illegal material, of course we can't post it. Not to say there hasn't been posts before. For example, there was definitely plenty of talk about Suprnova.org when it was up and when it fell. Sorta a double-standard by the rules. And people often implied trackers which get locked up... slowly...

But, for the record, don't post any illegal BT sites. Only legal ones, if anything at all.

dan-o-mac
Mar 30, 2005, 07:26 PM
[QUOTE=dan-o-mac][QUOTE=shortyjj][QUOTE=dan-o-mac]on your favorite Bittorrent site. [QUOTE] We can't talk about that here.

Quotes are obviously out of whack... it never occured to me: is it not kosher to talk about bittorrent sites or any site that may dabble in sharing of copyrighted material?

I sent you a PM Shortyjj

shortyjj
Mar 30, 2005, 10:06 PM
Ok, I still can't get ffmpegx to work correctly. Do you need to install all the encoding components (ie those three that come up in red that you need to download from somewhere else)?

WinterMute
Mar 31, 2005, 03:23 AM
Quotes are obviously out of whack... it never occured to me: is it not kosher to talk about bittorrent sites or any site that may dabble in sharing of copyrighted material?

Generally it's OK to discuss the technology, but not at all cool to ask for the locations of torrent sites or information on, say, cracking DRM on music files.

There are almost no sites that deal with exclusively copyright-free material, although there were one or two.

Dagless
Mar 31, 2005, 04:02 AM
i used to do something similar for my Pocket PC. would rip an episode off a DVD (Phoenix nights, League of Gentlemen -the good one, not the film) put it in 320x200 WMV. pretty good quality, think it was abotu 60mb for 30 minutes. and my PPC's screen is huge :o and only cost a fraction more than a PSP :)

maddav
Mar 31, 2005, 01:17 PM
I tend to convert episodes of Simpsons, Family Guy, Red Dwarf etc. but I have also found that for long journeys, feature movies look very nice, eg. I've got Oldboy w/english subtitles clocking in at about 330MB, and it looks very good, due to the widescreen.

clayj
Mar 31, 2005, 05:04 PM
OK, maybe someone on this thread can answer this. I am trying to rip DVDs into a format that I can play on my PSP. I've got the following software:

DVD Decrypter (latest version)
PSP Video 9 (latest version)

I'm using DVD Decrypter to rip the video content off the DVD and onto my hard drive (takes about 20 minutes), then using PSP Video 9 to convert the video to a PSP-sized format (takes well over an hour). The problem is that both times I have done this (Alien and The Incredibles), the audio becomes more and more unsynchronized with the video as the movie progresses, AS I AM PLAYING THE MOVIE IN QUICKTIME 7.0. (I haven't actually copied anything to the PSP yet... still need to buy a 1 GB Memory Stick Pro Duo.)

Anyone have any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong? Or is this unsynchronization problem limited to Quicktime?

EDIT: Never mind, I figured it out. I tried using 3GP instead of PSP Video 9 for the second stage of the process, and the resulting audio is perfectly synced to the video. Now, I just gotta get a 1 GB memory stick... (Fight Club came out to almost 800 MB.)

shortyjj
Apr 1, 2005, 11:56 AM
Does anybody know if we will be able to take advantage of this new mpeg improvement for PSP? It looks awesome.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html

wbrowne1
Apr 1, 2005, 01:45 PM
here's an old link, but if it's true it's freakin' sweet.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=5804

stoid
Apr 1, 2005, 01:53 PM
Does anybody know if we will be able to take advantage of this new mpeg improvement for PSP? It looks awesome.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html

IIRC, the PSP sirectly utilizes H.264

Though I believe that there are different implementations of H.264 and supposedly Apple's in Tiger is good. (Someone correct/verify this though)

I'd imagine that they are all compatble though.

wbrowne1
Apr 1, 2005, 06:49 PM
Here's (http://psp.ign.com/articles/542/542182p1.html) another article focusing on the PSP hardware:

In full, the PSP's logic board includes (as the title of Mr. Okabe's speech indicates) a 90nm embedded DRAM single chip (built by LSI Logic) with a 3D graphics, H.264 (MPEG4 AVC) codec engine, and a reconfigurable processor...

The VME is said to boast the fastest decoder available for the H.264 codec (also known as MPEG4 AVC, the most advanced version of the Motion Picture Expert Group's codec, offering quite possibly the highest quality compression, color, and data rate consumption of any video compressor out there.) This high-speed decoder, coupled with the ability to dump and reconfigure its high volume of data in a single clock cycle, should allow some powerful FMV rendering and multitasking features for the PSP.