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MacRumors
Jun 24, 2011, 02:23 PM
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A new video promoting a theretofore unreleased Skype for iPad app and demonstrates a stylish interface and video chat capabilities. The video, allegedly posted (https://twitter.com/#!/trackizmy1/status/84335481474654208) to Skype's YouTube channel and then quickly removed, was captured by Twitter user @trackizmy1 and reposted by RazorianFly (http://www.razorianfly.com/2011/06/24/skype-for-ipad-video/).

Skype for iPhone (http://appshopper.com/social-networking/skype) supports voice chat, voice calling, and instant messaging but does not include a native iPad client, instead running in pixel doubled mode.

Article Link: Native Skype Client Bringing Video Chat to iPad? (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/24/native-skype-client-bringing-video-chat-to-ipad/)



NomadicTy
Jun 24, 2011, 02:26 PM
The iPad 2 would make a great "skype station" for my grandma overseas.

macbwizard
Jun 24, 2011, 02:27 PM
I've pretty much given up on Skype. I mean, by now they should surely have an iPad version of their app. Also, have you seen Skype 5? It's horrendous.

MagnusF
Jun 24, 2011, 02:28 PM
Looks great!

blizaine
Jun 24, 2011, 02:30 PM
wow, that looks really nice!

thrill5one6
Jun 24, 2011, 02:34 PM
Is there a difference between iChat and skype?

roland.g
Jun 24, 2011, 02:34 PM
Welcome but as usual with Skype, way late. What do you expect, they were bought by M$, right?

nfora
Jun 24, 2011, 02:35 PM
10 minutes ago I was checking for any recent rumours about this. Awesome.

justinfreid
Jun 24, 2011, 02:35 PM
I'd accept this is as excellent evidence that a native Skype client is coming.
Looks like the Skype for iPad development team has a great grasp of Core Animation transitions and iPad GUI conventions. I like it.

rjtyork
Jun 24, 2011, 02:35 PM
I don't have an iPad, but it does not surprise me one bit that it's taken Skype so long to release an iPad version of their video calling capabilities. I've given up on skype as well. I use facetime every time now and I avoid Skype wherever possible because they've proven to be a POS company that doesn't want to keep up with the latest and greatest. I think they'll be extinct within the next 2 years unless they do something. And that something is as simple as keeping their iOS applications up to date and free.

bacaramac
Jun 24, 2011, 02:35 PM
It would be nice if they would make Facetime open to everyone (Windows, Android, etc). I only use skype for video calling and I think Facetime is much more reliable in my experience. Plus better quality.

Mad Man
Jun 24, 2011, 02:37 PM
This is what I was waiting for .... I almost gave up hope after MS bought Skype ... I can reach all my friends/family on skype, but only half of them on FaceTime.

nagromme
Jun 24, 2011, 02:38 PM
Video would be welcome! I’d use it occasionally for video-to-PC purposes.

Has there ever been a definitive answer on whether iPhone Skype draws down your battery in the background if you’re simply “available” to receive calls?

I’ve seen a handful of convincing posts around the web (and on Skype’s blog) in either direction. Some say Skype doesn’t use push notification to receive a call; instead the app must actually remain running (using battery and RAM). Others deny that (and I hope they’re right), or they (incorrectly) say iOS has no way to receive a call notification if the app isn’t running. (iOS does have a background VOIP ability, but that’s important when IN a call. Not necessary just to get invitations/notifications before VOIP is active.)

True of false? Is this a fire or only smoke? Was this a real problem but later patched? I don’t use Skype enough to know first-hand or test easily, but I’d still like to leave myself “available” full-time just in case someone ever wants to Skype me.

Closing the Skype app in the switcher bar and seeing if you can still receive a call would be the test, I suppose. I can still get Meebo chat requests without Meebo running, and then Meebo launches when the communication is accepted. I’m hoping Skype works the same! No need for it to be running when you’re NOT communicating.

0815
Jun 24, 2011, 02:39 PM
Cant wait .... this is what the camera in the iPad2 is for.

silusesMac
Jun 24, 2011, 02:39 PM
I hate how slow skype are to incorporate new features, like simple things such as multitasking and retina display it took them 6 months to release an update with these features, also something like videochatting it took them 8 months to release the update, now with the whole thing for the ipad its been 3 months since the ipad 2 was released, i guess theyre starting to improve their release dates.

seamer
Jun 24, 2011, 02:40 PM
Seeing as the original iPhone Skype team couldn't bring out a client for 3G for what seemed like forever, I'm surprised that the iPad version looks as nice as it does.

FaasNat
Jun 24, 2011, 02:43 PM
Nice. Too bad I only have the first version iPad.

Firen
Jun 24, 2011, 02:44 PM
Now if Facebook for iPad looks anywhere as good as this (at least if they actually release an iPad version like it is rumored), then I am a very happy little iPad user.

I wish my grandma had an iPad 2 and not an iPad 1 so that she could skype with the rest of the family via camera :/

coolfactor
Jun 24, 2011, 02:49 PM
It would be nice if they would make Facetime open to everyone (Windows, Android, etc). I only use skype for video calling and I think Facetime is much more reliable in my experience. Plus better quality.

That's the plan. FaceTime will be licensable for use in other applications. Not sure what the holdup is, though.

baryon
Jun 24, 2011, 02:55 PM
I truly hope Skype goes bankrupt and dies. I also hope that they either get eaten by Microsoft or that they get sued by some rich company and lose all their money.


*** Skype. Piece of **** software!

toddybody
Jun 24, 2011, 03:14 PM
Does it fix how crappy my iPad 2's cameras are?

FaceTime should be called "Monet Meeting"

Mad-B-One
Jun 24, 2011, 03:16 PM
As a matter of fact, using the Skype application from the iPhone, you can already do Skype video calls with the iPad 2. Works fine - even under 3G. The big advantage is that the menus are not pixely any more and all the other features a phone app cannot have. But who ever thought they have to wait for this app to have an alternative to Facetime is wrong: Skype phone app does that since the beginning with the iPad 2.
As a matter of fact, since Skype does not bother about what connection is used, I never use Facetime. My sister has an iPhone as well. How would I know if she is on WiFi? And why should I bother about if she is or not? I just use Skype and ring her and we can video chat. :D

diamond.g
Jun 24, 2011, 03:17 PM
That's the plan. FaceTime will be licensable for use in other applications. Not sure what the holdup is, though.

FaceTime needs to get group videochat before it is licensable...

nunes013
Jun 24, 2011, 03:18 PM
ive given up on skype for mac as i get backtalk, feedback and all sorts of things. has had problems since a few versions before 5.0 and going into 5.0 now. it works nice on iphone. going with my gf to get a mac in an hour so facetime it is. i will still use skype for my friends without a mac. skype for ipad would be welcome as it could replace skype 5 on my mac.

Westacular
Jun 24, 2011, 03:23 PM
That's the plan. FaceTime will be licensable for use in other applications. Not sure what the holdup is, though.

It was mentioned once, a year ago, in Jobs' original presentation. And not one peep since then.

I would not be holding my breath.

As to the original comment: I'd give the credit for FaceTime's reliability/quality to Apple's polish and attention to detail, more than I would the underlying technology.

Even if it were open or licensable, and others could make interoperable applications with Apple's blessings, I doubt they'd work as smoothly as Apple-to-Apple FaceTime calls. (Fear of this scenario and how it might negatively reflect on FaceTime could be something that led Apple to reconsider its initial "open standard" stance.)

Goaliegeek
Jun 24, 2011, 03:27 PM
Hopefully Skype for iPad wont be as slow, laggy, chuggy, and buggy as the iPhone version is.

Floris
Jun 24, 2011, 03:27 PM
Hey Editors,

I am sorry but I feel the article title is either incomplete, or misleading.

I have Skype on the iPhone4, and iPad2, and both have video capabilities. I am not sure why it says "bringing to.." when it clearly already has.

Users are also commenting they are welcoming to finally have video on the ipad, which confuses me, as it .. already has.

The article should be about either how high the quality in the demo is - since the camera is just crap on the iPad2, or at least be about it finally being a NATIVE app ..

It's a bit misleading that it mentions iOS Skype has voice chat and voice calling, but leaves out video, as if it doesn't have it.

I've just opened my iPhone Skype version on the iPad2 and called myself on my other Skype account - a video call .. You can see the screens to demo this; showing the not-ios-native app to clearly have video capabilities already; which in my opinion means I am either confused, misread your titles, or the title shouldn't imply video is new, but that the app being native is new.

Skype is a great app, I use it daily, I video chat daily, but their implementation and support is just f* horrible. A native app is welcomed, but way over due, and hopefully it won't be the last version and Microsoft respects those millions of Mac users. (Side note: version 5 is HORRIBLE).

Linked: screenshot of video already working just fine on ipad2 ..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/693961/skype_ios_ipad2_videocall_to_my_macpro_clearly_works.jpeg

NutsNGum
Jun 24, 2011, 03:28 PM
I understand Skype on a computer or phone, but I don't understand the benefit of a Skype client for the iPad where there already exists an integrated video chat solution in the shape of FaceTime.

Unless, that is, it offers the capability to interface with non iOS devices, such as Skype compatible Android phones or Windows PCs.

I'm not surprised they haven't bothered until now, otherwise.

Floris
Jun 24, 2011, 03:30 PM
I understand Skype on a computer or phone, but I don't understand the benefit of a Skype client for the iPad where there already exists an integrated video chat solution in the shape of FaceTime.

Unless, that is, it offers the capability to interface with non iOS devices, such as Skype compatible Android phones or Windows PCs.

I'm not surprised they haven't bothered until now, otherwise.


Because my friend in the UK who I call from the couch with the iPad2 has a Windows Vista computer, for example? And they don't have Facetime or iChat.

Plus, when I call my friends in a group call, they are on linux, mac, windows, and Facetime does not have group calls - let alone video group calls.

Rodimus Prime
Jun 24, 2011, 03:32 PM
That's the plan. FaceTime will be licensable for use in other applications. Not sure what the holdup is, though.

Facetime biggest problem is that it will be tied to Apple products only. Since it is not cross platform that is it biggest failing and why I do not see it really gaining any real traction.

Westacular
Jun 24, 2011, 03:50 PM
Has there ever been a definitive answer on whether iPhone Skype draws down your battery in the background if youíre simply ďavailableĒ to receive calls?

Iíve seen a handful of convincing posts around the web (and on Skypeís blog) in either direction. Some say Skype doesnít use push notification to receive a call; instead the app must actually remain running (using battery and RAM). Others deny that (and I hope theyíre right), or they (incorrectly) say iOS has no way to receive a call notification if the app isnít running. (iOS does have a background VOIP ability, but thatís important when IN a call. Not necessary just to get invitations/notifications before VOIP is active.)

True of false? Is this a fire or only smoke? Was this a real problem but later patched? I donít use Skype enough to know first-hand or test easily, but Iíd still like to leave myself ďavailableĒ full-time just in case someone ever wants to Skype me.

Closing the Skype app in the switcher bar and seeing if you can still receive a call would be the test, I suppose. I can still get Meebo chat requests without Meebo running, and then Meebo launches when the communication is accepted. Iím hoping Skype works the same! No need for it to be running when youíre NOT communicating.

I'm in the same boat as you: I don't use Skype enough to warrant having it always running in the background, but (if there was no cost to it) I wouldn't mind being available for messages all the same.

And, I'm sad to say, there's fire, not just smoke. Even without a call active, the Skype app must remaining running in the background in order to keep you signed in, and this prevents the iPhone from sleeping as often / as deeply as it otherwise would. I'm not sure what the current effect on battery is, but ~8 months ago, it was significant.

To mitigate this, somewhat, the app has a "Go Offline" setting -- you set how long it waits after you close (but not force-quit) the app before the background process goes offline, and stops sucking power. The options are Immediately, 15 min, 30 min, 60 min, and Never.

I just did your test -- clever suggestion! -- and it confirmed that this is still Skype's mode of operation in the current version. While signed in on my phone and watching on my Mac (in another Skype account), I force-quit the Skype app on my phone. Less than a minute later, I saw myself drop offline -- well before my "Go Offline" period expired.

It's a shame that Skype doesn't make full use of push notifications, in the way that most other iOS IM apps do, to allow you to stay signed in and receive messages/calls without sucking battery by running in the background.

Piggie
Jun 24, 2011, 03:52 PM
Facetime biggest problem is that it will be tied to Apple products only. Since it is not cross platform that is it biggest failing and why I do not see it really gaining any real traction.

100% agree and don't know why anyone would be stupid enough not to understand this fundamental problem with Facetime.

Can you imagine if the iPhone could only work with other iPhone users, and you could not ring or text anyone from your iPhone if they had a different brand of mobile?

Yes, that would be stupid and idiotic and doomed to fail, well guess what, that's what Facetime is.

All Apple has to do is change Facetime to it works across platform and problem over, they could possibly rule the market. But will they? No, probably not.

Shame :(

steadysignal
Jun 24, 2011, 03:56 PM
I hate how slow skype are to incorporate new features, like simple things such as multitasking and retina display it took them 6 months to release an update with these features, also something like videochatting it took them 8 months to release the update, now with the whole thing for the ipad its been 3 months since the ipad 2 was released, i guess theyre starting to improve their release dates.

think it will be better under M$?

-Ken-
Jun 24, 2011, 04:23 PM
So a native Skype client? Interesting. I know the upcoming TouchPad will have it as well.

Do any of the Android tablets have Skype?

Plasmastrike
Jun 24, 2011, 05:02 PM
Kind of a silly article title. Video chat already exists on the iPad with Skype. I use the iPhone version of the app all the time.

That being said, I'm really pumped for a native version.

silusesMac
Jun 24, 2011, 05:12 PM
i hate how companies like skype and fring always fakes the quality of the video calls in their stock photos and videos, it will never be like that, it looks like its super clear HD, thats BS the ipad 2's cameras are never going to reach the quality that skype is claiming to have in its videos.

aristotle
Jun 24, 2011, 05:19 PM
Facetime biggest problem is that it will be tied to Apple products only. Since it is not cross platform that is it biggest failing and why I do not see it really gaining any real traction.
Is english your second language? If Apple licenses facetime then it will work with non-Apple products from companies that have paid a license for it. That is what the person you were replying to said.

What part of that do you not understand?
:rolleyes:

ECUpirate44
Jun 24, 2011, 05:21 PM
It's about time. It took skype forever to get video chat for the iPhone as well.

KaneBaker
Jun 24, 2011, 05:27 PM
I understand Skype on a computer or phone, but I don't understand the benefit of a Skype client for the iPad where there already exists an integrated video chat solution in the shape of FaceTime.

Unless, that is, it offers the capability to interface with non iOS devices, such as Skype compatible Android phones or Windows PCs.

I'm not surprised they haven't bothered until now, otherwise.

Well that is kind of the whole point. I can 3G call my parents Windows box from my iPhone. I never really make facetime calls because I never know if people are in wifi range.

KaneBaker
Jun 24, 2011, 05:28 PM
i hate how companies like skype and fring always fakes the quality of the video calls in their stock photos and videos, it will never be like that, it looks like its super clear HD, thats BS the ipad 2's cameras are never going to reach the quality that skype is claiming to have in its videos.

You forgot to list Apple.

roadbloc
Jun 24, 2011, 05:31 PM
Hey Editors,

I am sorry but I feel the article title is either incomplete, or misleading.

I have Skype on the iPhone4, and iPad2, and both have video capabilities. I am not sure why it says "bringing to.." when it clearly already has.

Users are also commenting they are welcoming to finally have video on the ipad, which confuses me, as it .. already has.

The article should be about either how high the quality in the demo is - since the camera is just crap on the iPad2, or at least be about it finally being a NATIVE app ..

It's a bit misleading that it mentions iOS Skype has voice chat and voice calling, but leaves out video, as if it doesn't have it.

I've just opened my iPhone Skype version on the iPad2 and called myself on my other Skype account - a video call .. You can see the screens to demo this; showing the not-ios-native app to clearly have video capabilities already; which in my opinion means I am either confused, misread your titles, or the title shouldn't imply video is new, but that the app being native is new.

Skype is a great app, I use it daily, I video chat daily, but their implementation and support is just f* horrible. A native app is welcomed, but way over due, and hopefully it won't be the last version and Microsoft respects those millions of Mac users. (Side note: version 5 is HORRIBLE).

Linked: screenshot of video already working just fine on ipad2 ..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/693961/skype_ios_ipad2_videocall_to_my_macpro_clearly_works.jpeg

That's the iPhone version running on an iPad.

davester
Jun 24, 2011, 06:55 PM
facetime should be called "monet meeting"

LOL! So true.

HMFIC03
Jun 25, 2011, 12:03 AM
This is what I was waiting for .... I almost gave up hope after MS bought Skype ... I can reach all my friends/family on skype, but only half of them on FaceTime.

Me too. Can't wait my wife is in Iraq - looking forward to this, hope it's soon!

ARobinson
Jun 25, 2011, 12:26 AM
just me or does that look like a video recording?

Floris
Jun 25, 2011, 01:30 AM
That's the iPhone version running on an iPad.

Read what I said, I am talking about the title - how it says it's bringing video to the iPad, iPad already has Skype WITH video .. be it via their iphone app .. The article title is a bit silly; It should be about a 'native app for ipad' - it has nothing to do with video ..

adwebinc
Jun 25, 2011, 09:29 AM
This is perfect for remote collaboration with my MBA team members. Not all of them are fanbois like me.

slffl
Jun 25, 2011, 03:04 PM
I've used Skype. Doesn't even compare to Facetime/iChat. If someone is using skype instead, well, then I don't video chat with them.

kultschar
Jun 25, 2011, 08:47 PM
Any hint of approx release?

TheNerdyNurse
Jun 26, 2011, 03:43 AM
*cries*

now I just want an iPad2 even more.

mplaisance
Jun 26, 2011, 09:06 AM
I am not a big Microsoft fan but this is exactly what Microsoft needs to do. Invest in Apple's technology. Microsoft is a SOFTWARE Company, which means they should make software. Microsoft needs to put their ego behind and do what they were made to do and that is make great Software (of course if they still can)!

franswa za
Jun 26, 2011, 01:02 PM
Looks great!

does not,

iz it stve............ blmr? lost/ing 300 kilogrammes?

iphonepiephone
Jun 26, 2011, 01:33 PM
Skype's UI designers are in cloud cuckoo land, and should be fired. I've yet to see a clean, efficient & simple Skype client - they just DON'T know how to do that.

nagromme
Jun 26, 2011, 06:46 PM
I'm in the same boat as you: I don't use Skype enough to warrant having it always running in the background, but (if there was no cost to it) I wouldn't mind being available for messages all the same.

And, I'm sad to say, there's fire, not just smoke. Even without a call active, the Skype app must remaining running in the background in order to keep you signed in, and this prevents the iPhone from sleeping as often / as deeply as it otherwise would. I'm not sure what the current effect on battery is, but ~8 months ago, it was significant.

To mitigate this, somewhat, the app has a "Go Offline" setting -- you set how long it waits after you close (but not force-quit) the app before the background process goes offline, and stops sucking power. The options are Immediately, 15 min, 30 min, 60 min, and Never.

I just did your test -- clever suggestion! -- and it confirmed that this is still Skype's mode of operation in the current version. While signed in on my phone and watching on my Mac (in another Skype account), I force-quit the Skype app on my phone. Less than a minute later, I saw myself drop offline -- well before my "Go Offline" period expired.

It's a shame that Skype doesn't make full use of push notifications, in the way that most other iOS IM apps do, to allow you to stay signed in and receive messages/calls without sucking battery by running in the background.

That’s a huge shame! And a dealbreaker. It’s insane to burn battery 24/7 with no good reason, when Apple’s Push service has existed for SO long.

Even if someone does use Skype enough to accept the battery drain while not on a call... why should they have to?

I have problems with their desktop software too.