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Apocrathia
Jul 3, 2011, 12:02 PM
Um, where is it?

http://i.imgur.com/AwToX.png



Mactasia
Jul 3, 2011, 04:04 PM
Should still be in Server Admin, that is just "Server" - though I haven't yet checked the Golden Master.

matspekkie
Jul 4, 2011, 06:14 PM
It is not in there anymore!

talmy
Jul 5, 2011, 10:57 AM
Like many features (Samba, FTP, printer spooling and probably more), it's MIA.

However:

http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/#downloads

Mactasia
Jul 5, 2011, 11:40 AM
It'll be interesting to see. Surely they will turn up in the final release.:eek:

talmy
Jul 5, 2011, 12:31 PM
No "surely" about it since the GM doesn't have it.

jared_kipe
Jul 5, 2011, 04:11 PM
IMHO if MySQL goes missing from Lion Server, Apple will be missing out on a huge target audience of people who want to develop PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL applications on their own computer. Basically an Apple made alternative to MAMPPro, that also provides a bunch of other goodies.

nutmac
Jul 5, 2011, 05:27 PM
IMHO if MySQL goes missing from Lion Server, Apple will be missing out on a huge target audience of people who want to develop PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL applications on their own computer. Basically an Apple made alternative to MAMPPro, that also provides a bunch of other goodies.

Although having a centralized front-end to enable/disable service is handy, I wouldn't go all dramatic. It's trivial to install MySQL.

Phil A.
Jul 5, 2011, 05:35 PM
IMHO if MySQL goes missing from Lion Server, Apple will be missing out on a huge target audience of people who want to develop PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL applications on their own computer. Basically an Apple made alternative to MAMPPro, that also provides a bunch of other goodies.

Why not just download it from the MySQL site? If you're developing PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL apps, why even bother with the extra cost of the server add-on? You've already got PHP, Python, Perl and Apache2 out of the box on Lion: all you need to do is enable the PHP module in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and install MySQL from http://www.mysql.com

random.person
Jul 6, 2011, 05:10 AM
another thought - what happens if you are doing an in place upgrade from snow leopard server and have, for example, wordpress installed. do they actively remove mysql? do they remove the database data?

jared_kipe
Jul 6, 2011, 09:14 AM
Why not just download it from the MySQL site?? The same reason why MAMPPro exists. Sometimes you'd rather just download a package that sets up all of the little bits for you.

Most of the extras OSX server gives you could be downloaded or installed in other ways.

mainstay
Jul 26, 2011, 12:30 AM
Why not just download it from the MySQL site? If you're developing PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL apps, why even bother with the extra cost of the server add-on? You've already got PHP, Python, Perl and Apache2 out of the box on Lion: all you need to do is enable the PHP module in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and install MySQL from http://www.mysql.com

If I download MAMP and install, could I cause any conflicts with the built in php, python, and perl ?

AtomicGrog
Jul 26, 2011, 12:46 AM
MYSQL has been replaced with PostgreSQL - apparently due to Oracle MYSQL licencing issues.

Mactasia
Jul 26, 2011, 03:37 AM
If I download MAMP and install, could I cause any conflicts with the built in php, python, and perl ?

As long as they aren't turned on via Server then I wouldn't have thought so.

People looking for a GUI to the PostgreSQL in Lion Server - phpPgAdmin is quite useful: http://phppgadmin.sourceforge.net

Steelgrave
Jul 26, 2011, 09:32 AM
MYSQL has been replaced with PostgreSQL - apparently due to Oracle MYSQL licencing issues.

Got a link for those "issues"? Not saying your wrong, just curious what the issues are.:confused:

mainstay
Jul 26, 2011, 10:28 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL

...essentially MySQL has moved from Open Licensing to being mostly Open (GNU General Public License), and not to be bundled with a commercial package (Mac OS X) unless an additional enterprise license is held.

But here are some articles that I found useful on this MySQL issue as I will be developing WordPress sites that need to migrate over to real hosts:

http://maccrazy.com/lion-upgrade-killed-my-php-site-and-how-i-fixed-it

http://birdchan.com/home/2011/07/20/osx-lion-mysql-sock-path/

Steelgrave
Jul 26, 2011, 12:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL

...essentially MySQL has moved from Open Licensing to being mostly Open (GNU General Public License), and not to be bundled with a commercial package (Mac OS X) unless an additional enterprise license is held.

But here are some articles that I found useful on this MySQL issue as I will be developing WordPress sites that need to migrate over to real hosts:

http://maccrazy.com/lion-upgrade-killed-my-php-site-and-how-i-fixed-it

http://birdchan.com/home/2011/07/20/osx-lion-mysql-sock-path/

Interesting. I knew Oracle buying them was gonna have some sort of issue.

Thanks for the other 2 links too, I haven't upgraded my MP to lion yet, but those will help when I do.

Anonymous Freak
Jul 26, 2011, 01:30 PM
Yup, the company I work for has a product that integrates MySQL. We have to pay a not-insignificant fee for the pleasure.

We have a second product that we acquired for which MySQL is one of the database choices. We chose *NOT* to ship MySQL with the product, simply because we'd have to get a SECOND distribution license. Instead we just tell customers to download and install it themselves. (The license for our other product states we can't share that MySQL install, so for customers that use both of our products, we can't even share our existing MySQL license.....)