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MacRumors
Jul 3, 2011, 09:26 PM
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http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/07/KGrHqMOKicE3326-5RsBODdcHDWhg_3-500x375.jpg

(http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/07/KGrHqMOKicE3326-5RsBODdcHDWhg_3.jpg)
As noted by ThisIsMyNext (http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/03/iphone-4-prototype-shows-ebay/), a prototype iPhone 4 appeared on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPhone-4-black-APPLE-GENUINE-PROTOTYPE-TESTER-/130540359649#ht_500wt_1156) this weekend. This prototype iPhone 4 has many of the signs that it is a pre-release device. The volume buttons don't have the + and - markings as the production models have, and the FCC ID, Size and Model numbers are X'd out on the back casing. The eBay description details the findings:1. iPhone has wear on the frame, some small marks on the rear cover, small marks on the screen. No cracks and no deep scratches.
2. Volume buttons don't have the usual + for upper button and - for lower volume button
3. Phone will not activate on at&t and when syncing with iTunes it says that this phone can not be activated with at&t sim card it won't activate (please review picture #10)
4. On rear cover Model No.: XXXXX FCC ID: BCGAXXXXX IC ID: 579C-AXXXXX (please review picture #8)
5. Front screen and rear cover has some type of numbers printed on the inside.The iPhone 4 prototype is notable for being one of the most leaked Apple devices ever. A prototype of the device was said to be found in a bar, after which it was sold to gadget blog Gizmodo. The site then did a tear down and analysis (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/19/apparent-next-generation-iphone-gets-a-thorough-hands-on/) of the device well before its launch.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/07/KGrHqYOKocE35getHUBODdczevUQ_3-500x375.jpg

(http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/07/KGrHqYOKocE35getHUBODdczevUQ_3.jpg)



Article Link: Prototype iPhone 4 Appears on Ebay (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/03/prototype-iphone-4-appears-on-ebay/)



soco
Jul 3, 2011, 09:28 PM
Saw this earlier somewhere and thought it was a fake or something. Even so, who's buying this? A collector?

Good to see TIMN sourced though :)

gullySn0wCat
Jul 3, 2011, 09:31 PM
Gray Powell's iPhone4?

r.j.s
Jul 3, 2011, 09:31 PM
Saw this earlier somewhere and thought it was a fake or something. Even so, who's buying this? A collector?

Probably a collector, someone really interested in Apple ... imagine what it might go for in 20 years!

wackymacky
Jul 3, 2011, 09:44 PM
Likey the auction will be taken down like usual at Apple's request.

If it is a prototype then it is Apple's property.

MBP13
Jul 3, 2011, 09:47 PM
Why does it look the X's get larger as they go from left to right on the model number?

BCurry1
Jul 3, 2011, 09:56 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

$25,300?? Current bid. That's crazy.

pewra
Jul 3, 2011, 10:02 PM
Why does it look the X's get larger as they go from left to right on the model number?

Looks like a dodgy Photoshop to me, someone isn't particularly good with the distortion transforms.

PorterRocks
Jul 3, 2011, 10:20 PM
It definitely was one of the most leaked prototypes from Apple. I don't think Apple will be friends with Gizmodo for a long time. See my sig (made last year).

ArtOfWarfare
Jul 3, 2011, 10:38 PM
Why does it look the X's get larger as they go from left to right on the model number?

Trick of the light shining on them at that angle?

wordoflife
Jul 3, 2011, 10:38 PM
Current bid is 26,000

tjb1
Jul 3, 2011, 10:39 PM
Looks like a dodgy Photoshop to me, someone isn't particularly good with the distortion transforms.

Going by the other picture I think it was just the way the light hit it...

afroAnt
Jul 3, 2011, 11:16 PM
HAHAHA it just hit $40,000 :eek: but could that be the autobidder thing?

Alisstar
Jul 3, 2011, 11:17 PM
Current bid is 26,000

It just went up to $40K+.

Somebody owes Macrumors a huge 'thank you.'

afroAnt
Jul 3, 2011, 11:30 PM
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h355/afroAnt/ebay.png

HAHAHA

tums
Jul 3, 2011, 11:35 PM
I am curious how this ebay auction doesn't violate the Ebay TOS. I doublt Apple is listing prototypes or other IP on ebay.

batchtaster
Jul 4, 2011, 12:00 AM
$100,000?

Punk'd.

AWallen90
Jul 4, 2011, 12:12 AM
Imagine if that guy got it for 500 (first question posed to seller on ebay)

CaseyEE
Jul 4, 2011, 12:14 AM
Imagine if that guy got it for 500 (first question posed to seller on ebay)

That is crazy. Who knew it would get this high? I can't believe its over $100k!

pewra
Jul 4, 2011, 12:23 AM
As noted by a commenter here (http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/03/iphone-4-prototype-shows-ebay/#comment-241648222), the iTunes logo didn't change until 3 months after the iPhone was released. Assuming that a prototype wouldn't be able to use a stock firmware, this is looking a bit doubtful.

Tim9724
Jul 4, 2011, 12:51 AM
You guys should go to the ebay page and just refresh every few minutes its amazing its at US $999,999.00 it will it 1 mill i bet wow.

CaseyEE
Jul 4, 2011, 12:52 AM
at $1,000,000 now. wow

afroAnt
Jul 4, 2011, 12:53 AM
OMG its at $999,999 :eek:

wordoflife
Jul 4, 2011, 01:08 AM
I have a feeling that the one who is bidding the highest will just back out of it and not pay.

batchtaster
Jul 4, 2011, 02:10 AM
Dropped to $101,600.

Due to non-legitimate bidders I am canceling "some" bidders and I am requesting all potential buyers to EMAIL ME FIRST. If you don't email me OR If you don't have "appropriate feedback" your bid will be cancelled. Thank you

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&item=130540359649

freddiculous
Jul 4, 2011, 02:27 AM
wow this is unbelievable. THis guys going to be rich if someone actually pays up. Im sure theirs a lot of people just randomly bidding for fun. I emailed the guy directly n said he;s going to be a millionaire very lucky LoL.

mazz0
Jul 4, 2011, 04:28 AM
This is stupid. If it's a real prototype then it's stolen property and both buyer and seller will be arrested. If it's not a real prototype then it's worthless.

I'm surprised eBay are allowing it.

Adidas Addict
Jul 4, 2011, 07:34 AM
This is stupid. If it's a real prototype then it's stolen property and both buyer and seller will be arrested. If it's not a real prototype then it's worthless.

I'm surprised eBay are allowing it.

Why would ebay care? They get paid twice no matter what.

iAmYou
Jul 4, 2011, 09:16 AM
Why would ebay care? They get paid twice no matter what.

RU for real

klamse25
Jul 4, 2011, 10:23 AM
Saw this earlier somewhere and thought it was a fake or something. Even so, who's buying this? A collector?

Good to see TIMN sourced though :)

The bidding is at $999,999 currently, so obviously someone is interested.

fingernagel
Jul 4, 2011, 10:29 AM
Current bid: US $999,999.01

Mitchelino
Jul 4, 2011, 10:45 AM
If it'd not taken down, I'd like to see what price it hits in a week! I know they aren't legitimate bids, though.

Givmeabrek
Jul 4, 2011, 12:41 PM
The bidding is at $999,999 currently, so obviously someone is interested.


Puleeze, this is common practice. When an obviously bogus or illegal auction is put up people use "throw away" accounts to bid it out of range. Nothing new here. It does not mean someone is interested in buying it! It means many are interested in blocking the auction and reporting the seller. Goes on all the time.

This is stolen property! Apple (or any other company) does not sell prototypes!!

Adidas Addict
Jul 4, 2011, 01:13 PM
RU for real

Yes.

Where do you think most stolen items get sold in this day and age (not to mention all the blatant fake items on ebay)? If not craigslist then ebay. If you think otherwise then you're naive.

gnasher729
Jul 4, 2011, 02:45 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

$25,300?? Current bid. That's crazy.

Bad news for the guy who found an iPhone 4 prototype and sold it on instead of trying to return it to Apple. If there is a bid for $25,000 today, how much money would it have been worth before the iPhone was released?

dlimes13
Jul 4, 2011, 03:27 PM
Was at $999,999.01 a few minutes ago, but the seller canceled bids down to $1,725.00. Keeps fluctuating.

Hannaray
Jul 4, 2011, 03:50 PM
Common, every year the same thing. Lets wait in patience for iPhone 5!!

Nicolas4ever
Jul 4, 2011, 09:00 PM
Why someone to spent 100,000 for a prototype that's not even functional.:apple::apple::apple:

the8thark
Jul 4, 2011, 09:01 PM
From the auction listing:

Due to non-legitimate bidders I am canceling "some" bidders and I am requesting all potential buyers to EMAIL ME FIRST. If you don't email me OR If you don't have "appropriate feedback" your bid will be cancelled. Thank you
Payment will not be accepted using paypal due to high fees and fraud. I WILL ONLY ACCEPT Cashier check and only after it clears I will then ship the item.
If you're not sure about buying PLEASE DON'T BID, ask questions. Thank you
This looks extremely suspect to me. Who would turn down the safeguards of paypal for an item as valuable as this. Unless the item is fake and the person wants to pawn off the fake with the buyer having no way of getting his money back. (or the seller just wants your money and has no intention of sending the product).

Ebay auctions like this disgust me.

billnye97
Jul 4, 2011, 09:19 PM
And the auction is now taken down. I wonder if it was the seller or eBay?

batchtaster
Jul 4, 2011, 10:29 PM
And the auction is now taken down. I wonder if it was the seller or eBay?

It may have been

Payment will not be accepted using paypal due to high fees and fraud. I WILL ONLY ACCEPT Cashier check and only after it clears I will then ship the item.

rather than the item itself. eBay are militant about requiring PayPal. Basically, sell all the stolen goods you want, but don't diss PayPal.

ThunderSkunk
Jul 5, 2011, 12:59 AM
Who would turn down the safeguards of paypal for an item as valuable as this

Paypal doesn't protect sellers worth a damn, especially on items over a few hundred dollars. That service has gotten progressively worse over the last few years. Everything I sell is either a hundred dollars or less, or a few thousand. On big-ticket items, I don't accept paypal. After the third time you get scammed for a couple grand, and paypal shrugs and says "sorry", you start finding other ways to sell.

And Batch is right, they make you accept paypals lousy service, and if you put any text in your auction stating you won't accept it, your auctions get taken down. You have to be more clever about it, like stating you'll reluctantly accept paypal, but will enthusiastically give a discount to buyers who use other more traditional forms of payment.

krzyglue
Jul 5, 2011, 09:35 PM
It may have been



rather than the item itself. eBay are militant about requiring PayPal. Basically, sell all the stolen goods you want, but don't diss PayPal.

I agree, it probably was the seller's Paypal comment, and not the dubious nature of the phone itself...

I must say, it'd certainly be a cool thing to have, though not for several thousand dollars o.0

jetlife2
Jul 6, 2011, 05:34 PM
On big-ticket items, I don't accept paypal. After the third time you get scammed for a couple grand, and paypal shrugs and says "sorry", you start finding other ways to sell.

Can you explain how you can get scammed on paypal as the seller? If the funds have arrived in your account as an instant payment (not echeck), then you are OK, no? Sorry I don' t see the scenario here. Thanks in advance for an explanation.

Alisstar
Jul 6, 2011, 06:08 PM
Can you explain how you can get scammed on paypal as the seller? If the funds have arrived in your account as an instant payment (not echeck), then you are OK, no? Sorry I don' t see the scenario here. Thanks in advance for an explanation.

The winning bidder can place a claim for any of various reasons, such as a stolen credit card for example. They wait after the item has shipped to do this. Paypal then instantly gives them a refund and you lose your item and your money.

jeffbob
Jul 15, 2011, 10:49 PM
i still think this is fake

BeSweeet
Jul 15, 2011, 11:01 PM
i still think this is fake

Same.