When do you think an SP 1.2(5)GHz iMac will be released?

[Shrek]

With the PowerMacs already updated with DP 1.25GHz processors, the Powerbooks expecting an update (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020923120900.shtml) very soon, and the 19-inch iMacs (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020905142426.shtml) seemingly on the way, when do you think a single-processor 1.2(5)GHz iMac will be released? :rolleyes:

[bousozoku]

Think much later when 1.25 GHz G4s are at the bottom or middle of the PowerMac line.

[Mr. Anderson]

It won't be for quite some time, but the Power4 or G5 or what ever is next in line for the Mac will most likely be rolled out first. That will determine when we'll see it.

D

[SilvorX]

hmm maybe after mwsf since the dual 1.25 just came out n if it came out soon...boy some ppl will be p/o ;) lol

[Shrek]

When is MWSF suppose to be?

[iGav]

2004.........

[Shrek]

Originally posted by iGAV
2004.........

HAHA. Very funny, iGAV. After looking hard enough, I found the dates at the MacWorld Expo (http://www.macworldexpo.com/) website.

Uh oh. Now I look I'm trying to increase my post count! :eek:

[jefhatfield]

i say after january 2003

maybe the imac will get 1 ghz single processor before the end of this year

but the 1.25 ghz is likely AFTER macworld san francisco in january 2003...but if it happened then, that would be very nice

i would like to see something like this at mwsf

1 ghz imac - low end
1.25 ghz imac - middle
1.25 ghz imac with 17" screen - top of the line

this would be nice if it correspnded with a 1 and 1.25 ghz emac, an ibook at 1 ghz, tibook at 1.25 ghz, and powermacs to 1.5 or 1.6 ghz...essentially nothing under 1 ghz

...but that scenario is more likely for mid-2003 instead of january, 2003...the only item i could see still stuck under 1 ghz in mid-2003 would be low end ibook and the crt imacs which would both probably be stuck at 900 mhz

the age of mhz is soon leaving us and all personal computers on mac side will be 1 ghz+

i have not seen any pcs under a gigahertz for months now

[Shrek]

Originally posted by jefhatfield

1.25 ghz imac with 17" screen - top of the line

Why not a 1.25GHz iMac with a 19-inch (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020905142426.shtml) screen? :rolleyes:

[mr evil brkfast]

July 2003 perhaps...one really has to consider what processor or speeds will the next PM sport.

High End 1.25 GHZ 19"
Middle 1.25 GHZ 17"
Low 1.00 GHZ 15"

all with 167Mhz Bus and the x-serve DDR hack would be sweet for July.

[Shrek]

Originally posted by mr evil brkfast
July 2003 perhaps...one really has to consider what processor or speeds will the next PM sport.

High End 1.25 GHZ 19"
Middle 1.25 GHZ 17"
Low 1.00 GHZ 15"

all with 167Mhz Bus and the x-serve DDR hack would be sweet for July.

That's nice, but I'm hoping for January. Somehow I have this gutsy feeling that Moto is really gonna start stepping up to the plate and getting things done since the switch ads came out. The sooner the better, I say. Oh, and BTW, Apple may be planning to phase out (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/08/20020822171217.shtml) the 15-inch iMacs this month. This is the way I envision the next generation of iMacs:

High End 1.25 GHz 19"
Middle-High 1.25 GHz 17"
Middle 1.00 GHz 17"
Low 867 MHz 17"

all with 167Mhz Bus and DDR

;)

[iGav]

Originally posted by Shrek


HAHA. Very funny, iGAV. After looking hard enough, I found the dates at the MacWorld Expo (http://www.macworldexpo.com/) website.

Uh oh. Now I look I'm trying to increase my post count! :eek:

I wasn't answering that...... I was answering...

"When do you think an SP 1.2(5)GHz iMac will be released?"

;)

[jefhatfield]

the 17 inch screen looks huge and i couldn't imagine what the 19 inch would look like...they might have to add weight to the base to keep it stable

the 17 looks just fine and when i moved it around the base was rock solid

[Shrek]

Originally posted by iGAV


I wasn't answering that...... I was answering...

"When do you think an SP 1.2(5)GHz iMac will be released?"

;)

Oh, really. 2004? Hmmm. I think you're overreacting a bit. :p

[Spock]

i think the iMac really needs a speed boost it is almost a year old and it is still 800MHz I think the 17in was a way to get more time to boost the speed.

[iwantanewmac]

I think they will never make the imac so "fast" that soon.
There will be upgrades....but they way apple does it. :)

the 700 model goes to 800 and the 800 to 933 maybe.
1.25 is out of the question. you are all dreaming :)

[iGav]

Originally posted by Shrek


Oh, really. 2004? Hmmm. I think you're overreacting a bit. :p

Not when the current iMac is only at 800MHz...... I reckon I could be spot on here......:)

[Shrek]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac
I think they will never make the imac so "fast" that soon.
There will be upgrades....but they way apple does it. :)

the 700 model goes to 800 and the 800 to 933 maybe.
1.25 is out of the question. you are all dreaming :)

Hold your expectations for Apple high and they will do their best, otherwise they'll do their worst.

When customers asked for a bigger screen for the iMac they listened and gave us a 17". Now were asking for a 1.25GHz iMac with a 19" screen by January 2003. If we hold our expectations for Apple high we may not get what we wanted, but we'll get a lot closer to it than just a 133MHz speed bump. ;)

[Shrek]

Originally posted by iGAV


Not when the current iMac is only at 800MHz...... I reckon I could be spot on here......:)

Do you really think there going to hold back that much when Intel and AMD will likely be manufacturing 4GHz processors by then? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. That would scare potential switchers and current Mac users away! :eek:

Like I said, put your expectations high. Where there is a will, there is a way. ;)

[Angelus]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jefhatfield
[the only item i could see still stuck under 1 ghz in mid-2003 would be low end ibook and the crt imacs which would both probably be stuck at 900 mhz

I'd say apple are goin to eliminate the crt imac by then.Correct me if im wrong but isnt the snow white model the only one that remains and i dont think the graphics chip is even Quartz Extreme compliant?Itll probably be read its last rites very soon.its a pity cos my computer teacher loved that little crt model and for some strange reason has it in for the eMac...dont ask me why.

[Angelus]

I tend to agree with Shrek.Positive thoughts about the new hardware could result in sizeable improvements.As a believer in creative visualisation i think we should have a poll and create a spec that would please most people.Then we meditate every night and visualise said spec,picture it in your minds eye,feel the emotions that it would invoke in you if you had it and hopefully said machine will condense into matter.

[mr evil brkfast]

I agree with Angelus... i think that the G3 imac is around only until they can drop the price on the base emac (same specs).

I would love to see Shrek's specs but I can only be hopeful of them if I know that the powermacs will be getting a big boost or new chip.

[Angelus]

I think the idea of a 19inch screen imac is great but i just thought of one thing.The attraction of powermacs apart from the dual processor,extra hard drives and better graphics cards capabilities is the ability to add larger monitors eg.fabulous 22" or 23"HD displays.
If apple were to manufacture an imac with a 1ghz+G4,133Mhz bus and 19inch lcd it would probably have a better graphics card to drive the display and a superdrive as it would be the top model. in my opinion that could blur the line between the consumer and pro range.The price would go up i presume but it would still be cheaper than a lowend powermac with 17"lcd and you would also get more screen real estate.
Granted if your a professional you will most likely go for the gusto and buy a DP1.25Ghz but for the person who is lets say an incredibly enthusiastic consumer what would you prefer a dual 867Mhz with 17"lcd or a 1Ghz imac with 19inch lcd all in a neat little package(including superdrive+probably better graphics card).

This of course will only apply to someone who wants all apple cos they could just buy the DP867,add memory and cards and just buy a cheap,bulky crt(but then they will probably be plagued with a lack of space,high electricity bills and poor eyesight :)

[Shrek]

Way 2 go, Angelus!

AIM HIGH, APPLE FORCE. :D :D :D

[iGav]

Originally posted by Shrek


Do you really think there going to hold back that much when Intel and AMD will likely be manufacturing 4GHz processors by then? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. That would scare potential switchers and current Mac users away! :eek:

Like I said, put your expectations high. Where there is a will, there is a way. ;)

Well look at the facts....... the iMac G4 is still stuck at 800MHz.... has been for months...... we're likely to see a 933MHz and 1GHz way before Apple even consider sticking in their fastest processor in it's consumer offerings..... (Although I'm always happy for Apple to prove me wrong)

AMD won't be anywhere near 4GHz by then.... they're beginning to slack exactly like Motorola......

And as for putting your expectations high....... then we having to suffer the same f*@king winjers when Apples' releases do not match the 'head-in-the-clouds' rumors...... And subsequent multiple threads with morons threatening to jump ship because Apple didn't release this or that........

I'm merely being realistic......... :)

[danman]

Originally posted by Angelus
This of course will only apply to someone who wants all apple cos they could just buy the DP867,add memory and cards and just buy a cheap,bulky crt (but then they will probably be plagued with a lack of space, high electricity bills and poor eyesight :)
And grow hairs on the palms of their hands probably. :p

[Shrek]

Originally posted by iGAV


Well look at the facts....... the iMac G4 is still stuck at 800MHz.... has been for months...... we're likely to see a 933MHz and 1GHz way before Apple even consider sticking in their fastest processor in it's consumer offerings..... (Although I'm always happy for Apple to prove me wrong)

AMD won't be anywhere near 4GHz by then.... they're beginning to slack exactly like Motorola......

And as for putting your expectations high....... then we having to suffer the same f*@king winjers when Apples' releases do not match the 'head-in-the-clouds' rumors...... And subsequent multiple threads with morons threatening to jump ship because Apple didn't release this or that........

I'm merely being realistic......... :)

ARRRGH!!! I CAN'T STAND PESSIMISTS!!! :mad:

[Sun Baked]

How come nobody is asking for a solar powered PowerBook that recharges in the dark?

Wouldn't that solve the battery life problems related to all those gadgets you want stuffed into a limited space?

Note: I would have said nuclear powered, but I didn't think people would like nuking their nads.

[Angelus]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iGAV
[B]


I'm merely being realistic......... :)

Of course this raises the question as to whether we are slaves to reality or its masters who choose to create our own reality. I think its better to be optimistic about what apple can offer.Sure we may be dissappointed every once in a while but its either that or living your life expecting the worst so that whatever happens will be better than your expectations.
Maybe we can bring back the Think Different campaign.Use your imaginations,live in the clouds,think martin luther"i have a dream",think superman "up,up and away" :)

[Shrek]

Originally posted by Angelus

Of course this raises the question as to whether we are slaves to reality or its masters who choose to create our own reality. I think its better to be optimistic about what apple can offer.Sure we may be dissappointed every once in a while but its either that or living your life expecting the worst so that whatever happens will be better than your expectations.
Maybe we can bring back the Think Different campaign.Use your imaginations,live in the clouds,think martin luther"i have a dream",think superman "up,up and away" :)

Thank you, Angelus. That is exactly the words I was looking for. :)

[iGav]

Originally posted by Shrek


ARRRGH!!! I CAN'T STAND PESSIMISTS!!! :mad:

How exactly I'm I being pessimistic???? :rolleyes:

[iGav]

Originally posted by Angelus


Of course this raises the question as to whether we are slaves to reality or its masters who choose to create our own reality. I think its better to be optimistic about what apple can offer.Sure we may be dissappointed every once in a while but its either that or living your life expecting the worst so that whatever happens will be better than your expectations.
Maybe we can bring back the Think Different campaign.Use your imaginations,live in the clouds,think martin luther"i have a dream",think superman "up,up and away" :)

I'm always optimistic about what Apple offers....... I'm almost never pessimistic about Apples products...mainly because I don't believe the unbelieveable rumors....

Being a realist means that you never really suffer the pitfalls of being over optimistic, or pessimistic....... ;)

[Shrek]

Originally posted by iGAV

Being a realist means that you never really suffer the pitfalls of being over optimistic, or pessimistic....... ;)

Talk about not getting real! Asking for a 1.25GHz 19" iMac by January 2003 is not overly optimistic, especially with the rumors of the IBM PPC Power4 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020919131733.shtml) and Moto's 90-nanometer (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/08/20020830111235.shtml) technology and the Enquirer posting an article (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020905142426.shtml) about the possibility of a 19" iMac arriving in the fourth quarter! Now who's being real?! ;) Do your research before you make such predisposed judgments! :p

[iGav]

Originally posted by Shrek


Talk about not getting real! Asking for a 1.25GHz 19" iMac by January 2003 is not overly optimistic, especially with the rumors of the IBM PPC Power4 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020919131733.shtml) and Moto's 90-nanometer (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/08/20020830111235.shtml) technology and the Enquirer posting an article (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020905142426.shtml) about the possibility of a 19" iMac arriving in the fourth quarter! Now who's being real?! ;) Do your research before you make such predisposed judgments! :p

Well if you think that the speed of the iMac is going to increase by 450MHz in January 2003 then good for you...... I really hope it comes true....

The IBM processor, if it is destined for it the Mac... then I personally do not believe we're going to see this anytime soon.......

And what the hell has a 19" iMac G4 got to do with having a 1.25GHz processor installed as well??? Absolutely sweet F.A. that's what......:rolleyes:

[Angelus]

I think that in order to see a 1.25Ghz chip in an iMac,Apple will first of all have to move beyond its current "stopgap"powermac range.They will need to implement faster chips aswell as true DDR architecture.God knows we may see a situation like last january where the lines between consumer and pro products were blurred for a while until apple introduced the 800Mhz,933Mhz,DP1Ghz range.The iMac certainly cant stay at 800Mhz for ever,a year has almost passed ,but since the current DDR implementation in the powermacs isnt yielding a great many improvements apple will have to hold back the imac in terms of processor speed and system bus. I think Apple should be focusing on the Powermac systems and get them sorted out,faster(Newer) chips,true DDR architecture etc.Then they can ramp up the imac specs and still maintain a sizeable difference in performance between the consumer and pro lines.

[mr evil brkfast]

Until we see what happens with the powermac I can see no reason to expect a huge increase in speed in the imac.

How can apple release an imac higher than 1 ghz until they have at least bumped the PM line up to 1 ghz dual low end?

[orangedv]

R.E. Pessimism.

Ok lets recap;

First the new power macs, here is a fresh quote from Macuser UK, who’s tests are held in great respect. “There's just not enough performance or value in the 1GHz DP model to recommend it”

The imacs are being compared to PC’s that are not exactly top flight machinery from the entire PC range.

The gap between Macs and PC’s in terms of power for money paid, is growing wider, not shrinking.

The apple board have effectively turned OSX from a promising Unix based system to a money gathering scam via jaguar/dot Mac, and Mr Jobs has another what $40 mil (did I read that correctly?) in the bank.

Its no good saying that on the one hand apple is a business not a charity, lets give them a break, and then TREATING them like a charity when they are down. If they want my money and that of goodness knows how many others, they need to stop fleecing people with software pricing, and get some decent hardware out NOW, not in 04, business wont wait.

I say, if THAT lot doesn’t call for some healthy pessimism, then god knows what does!