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GeeYouEye
Apr 4, 2005, 11:44 PM
In here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=117225) I said I'd look into getting some space for hosting MacWorld, WWDC, etc. keynotes. I'm almost done with that, but the site owner wants to know how much bandwidth we use per month here so he can get an idea of how much traffic to expect. Arn or any other admin?
Knox
Apr 5, 2005, 04:26 AM
In here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=117225) I said I'd look into getting some space for hosting MacWorld, WWDC, etc. keynotes. I'm almost done with that, but the site owner wants to know how much bandwidth we use per month here so he can get an idea of how much traffic to expect. Arn or any other admin?
If you're looking at hosting large files the bandwidth profile will be quite different from a site like macrumors.com, whose bandwidth is virtually entirely from small images and HTML. I vaguely remember 300GB/month being a figure for macrumors.com in the past, but as i say, that is virtually meaningless for a keynote site.
I run a site which hosts a few videos and mp3s (in the region of 100MB per file). The bandwidth used has essentially a single key factor - where your site is linked from. Most of the time my site transfers roughly 2-4GB/day from regular visitors, however when it is linked from another popular site (livesets.com) that increases to 15-20GB/day.
Lets say you have 5 keynote broadcasts, each of which being roughly 100MB and that visitors download 3 of them on average. With 10,000 visitors per month that would give 3TB/month bandwidth. Given the size of the mac community, and how quickly popular links get passed around, you could easily use 100x that bandwidth.
Your only option is to use BitTorrent for the videos I think, which would mean you only had the seeding bandwidth to cope with and not the whole thing.
fox2005
Apr 5, 2005, 07:28 AM
If you're looking at hosting large files the bandwidth profile will be quite different from a site like macrumors.com, whose bandwidth is virtually entirely from small images and HTML. I vaguely remember 300GB/month being a figure for macrumors.com in the past, but as i say, that is virtually meaningless for a keynote site.
I run a site which hosts a few videos and mp3s (in the region of 100MB per file). The bandwidth used has essentially a single key factor - where your site is linked from. Most of the time my site transfers roughly 2-4GB/day from regular visitors, however when it is linked from another popular site (livesets.com) that increases to 15-20GB/day.
Lets say you have 5 keynote broadcasts, each of which being roughly 100MB and that visitors download 3 of them on average. With 10,000 visitors per month that would give 3TB/month bandwidth. Given the size of the mac community, and how quickly popular links get passed around, you could easily use 100x that bandwidth.
Your only option is to use BitTorrent for the videos I think, which would mean you only had the seeding bandwidth to cope with and not the whole thing.
What hosting doy you use?
In here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=117225) I said I'd look into getting some space for hosting MacWorld, WWDC, etc. keynotes. I'm almost done with that, but the site owner wants to know how much bandwidth we use per month here so he can get an idea of how much traffic to expect. Arn or any other admin?
ya... for hosting those movies... we're talking tons of bandwidth. MacRumors front page alone is probably in the 600GB/month range. and that's just html and a few small images. I haven't checked the numbers lately... but it's been growing.
I wouldn't mind seeding them if they weren't copyright issues with it... but I think apple would take issue if a site like macrumors officially hosted them.
arn
Knox
Apr 5, 2005, 11:53 AM
What hosting doy you use?
Dedicated servers from a couple of places - EV1 Servers (http://www.ev1servers.net) and Servermatrix (http://www.servermatrix.net), and a colocated server in the UK hosted with EQSN (http://www.eqsn.com/)
GeeYouEye
Apr 5, 2005, 02:07 PM
ya... for hosting those movies... we're talking tons of bandwidth. MacRumors front page alone is probably in the 600GB/month range. and that's just html and a few small images. I haven't checked the numbers lately... but it's been growing.
I wouldn't mind seeding them if they weren't copyright issues with it... but I think apple would take issue if a site like macrumors officially hosted them.
arn
Okay, wow, I had no idea it was that much.
Mechcozmo
Apr 5, 2005, 06:48 PM
MacRumors front page alone is probably in the 600GB/month range.
I pledge to not refresh MacRumors every 10 minutes on Tuesday or before product releases. Every 20 minutes is more economical. :rolleyes:
Doctor Q
Apr 5, 2005, 07:02 PM
I pledge to not refresh MacRumors every 10 minutes on Tuesday or before product releases. Every 20 minutes is more economical. :rolleyes:minutes? Checking every 10 minutes makes you a good guy. It's the people who refresh 10 times per second that keep the server on ultraboil. If you only check every 20 minutes, you might be 19 minutes out of date and, for dedicated Mac geeks, that could be hard to stomach.
next keynote... we have some planned improvements in our keynote coverage.... if things go as planned, web updates should be smoother... hopefully we won't hit peak capacity like we have in the past.
arn
wrc fan
Apr 5, 2005, 08:45 PM
minutes? Checking every 10 minutes makes you a good guy. It's the people who refresh 10 times per second that keep the server on ultraboil.
People need to learn to be patient... and to use the rss feed.
Mechcozmo
Apr 6, 2005, 03:16 AM
If you only check every 20 minutes, you might be 19 minutes out of date and, for dedicated Mac geeks, that could be hard to stomach.
That's why god gave us emotional support groups... purely internet based, of course.
next keynote... we have some planned improvements in our keynote coverage.... if things go as planned, web updates should be smoother... hopefully we won't hit peak capacity like we have in the past.
Heh. Random thought while reading this: "Everyone, mirror the server and start posting your IPs! If we stick together, we may survive this yet!"
On second read/thought, it isn't too funny. Oh well.
People need to learn to be patient... and to use the rss feed.
Ah but for that you need Safari RSS in Tiger and to get Tiger you need to check MacRumors and to check MacRumors you need a web-browser (like Safari RSS). See? I'd use Firefox but I like Safari more. :)
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