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MacRumors
Sep 26, 2002, 12:30 AM
Vote: Poll:What is your Gender? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=39&ref=forums.macrumors.com)



Rags
Sep 26, 2002, 12:59 AM
Running low on poll ideas? :D

Stike
Sep 26, 2002, 01:02 AM
"Hermaphrodite" is missing :eek: :D ;)

ibjoshua
Sep 26, 2002, 01:08 AM
where are all the mac women?

i_b_joshua

SilvorX
Sep 26, 2002, 01:11 AM
someones running out of ideas for polls :p

adelaney
Sep 26, 2002, 02:32 AM
Are you kidding? I think this is the best poll yet. Look at us all. As it stands now we're 95% men. And yet the Macintosh is the most feminine computer there is. Is it masculine to be obsessed by physical objects? No. Diamonds are a girl's best friend etc. A computer is man striving to create life, intelligence. Since women have had the creation of life locked up for eons, is this our attempt to give birth to something of our own loins? Are women naturally more social and thus less apt to look for a restatement of self in a thing rather than a person? Or, is it simply because historically women have been shut out of the workplace so as you get into more and more advanced jobs is it simply less likely for women to have made inroads? Yet who could claim that technology is more advanced of a trade than medicine? I guarantee the same poll on a doctor-centric site would not come up with 95% men. It is not simply the need to answer polls and post messages on the Internet. Besides macrumors the other message board I frequent is a Radiohead site and there are far higher a percentage of women there. I frequent mac sites because I identify so much with my computer. I name my computers. I feel they are friends, who work with me. Yet it is this very sense of companionship that comes with the Macintosh that makes it the only conceivably feminine computer. One is always in a masculine, adversarial role with a PC. Do women, by typically being able to make closer, more intimate friends with people of their own sex feel less needful of this kind of relationship with their computer? Where do we go from here? (And yes the words are coming out all weird.) Women...where are you now? We need you.

Thoughts?

iGav
Sep 26, 2002, 03:06 AM
I'm a Geezer....... ;)

dreamlance
Sep 26, 2002, 11:02 AM
*keels over at the figures* Only 8 women?! We make up like 10% of the MR population at this point and I know that's not true :) As far as women and their relationships to computers go, most have no clue how to operate one efficiently. They're too busy with makeup. :D

Thirteenva
Sep 26, 2002, 11:14 AM
Hey adelaney don't take offense to this, i'm just as bored as work as you are and i'm having a little fun answering your rhetorical questions....

Originally posted by adelaney
Are you kidding? I think this is the best poll yet. Look at us all. As it stands now we're 95% men. And yet the Macintosh is the most feminine computer there is.

I disagree. i don't find mac's to be feminine at all.


Is it masculine to be obsessed by physical objects? No. Diamonds are a girl's best friend etc.

Umm... yeah it is masculine, how many men(myself included) have an unnatural obsession with cars. I find women to have less emotional attachments to material things.



A computer is man striving to create life, intelligence. Since women have had the creation of life locked up for eons, is this our attempt to give birth to something of our own loins?


I just don't understand this?? We're not creating life with computers? Computers aren't "alive" at all. Apple computers aren't born they're assembled. Give birth? to what? computers are coming from our loins now?? I better wash my next mac after taking it out of the box...



Are women naturally more social and thus less apt to look for a restatement of self in a thing rather than a person?

This kinda goes against your "diamands are a girls best friend" arguement above..


Or, is it simply because historically women have been shut out of the workplace so as you get into more and more advanced jobs is it simply less likely for women to have made inroads?

I find lots of women in technology, at least to the tune of 30 -40%, don't use this pole as a delimiter to an actual reflection of women in the workplace or in technology jobs.


Yet who could claim that technology is more advanced of a trade than medicine? I guarantee the same poll on a doctor-centric site would not come up with 95% men.
And it still would not accurately portray the amount of women in that industry, just the amount of doctors bored enough at work to be on a website voting on a poll in the middle of the business day....


It is not simply the need to answer polls and post messages on the Internet.
Yes it just might simply be that.. :D ;)



Besides macrumors the other message board I frequent is a Radiohead site and there are far higher a percentage of women there.
Yup i bet there are...plenty of them, teenage girls who don't work during the day...
Statistics show that 90% of the traffic to music sites is teenagers, most of them female.. i just came across this stat the other day doing research for a promotional kit i was working on for my company.



I frequent mac sites because I identify so much with my computer. I name my computers. I feel they are friends, who work with me.
this partly explains why you have so much time to think about this.. ;)


Yet it is this very sense of companionship that comes with the Macintosh that makes it the only conceivably feminine computer.


You keep making a point of saying how you see your computer as feminine and how "close" you are to it.... something else going on here or what??? ;)


One is always in a masculine, adversarial role with a PC.

Or one is merely a user with no gender and/or sexual conotations involved.


Do women, by typically being able to make closer, more intimate friends with people of their own sex feel less needful of this kind of relationship with their computer?

I don't think women are the only ones that don't feel like being "intimate" with a computer...


Where do we go from here?

I would suggest to a bar so you can bring an "real" feminine presence into your house. ;)


(And yes the words are coming out all weird.)

You can say that again...


Women...where are you now? We need you.

Yes, now you've got it, you need a woman.


Thoughts?
Plenty more where those came from...

Hey buddy don't take offense to this, i'm just as bored as work as you are and i'm having a little fun, i found your post quite amusing.

vniow
Sep 26, 2002, 03:47 PM
Ummmm, that's a good question. ;)

edesignuk
Sep 26, 2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by iGAV
I'm a Geezer....... ;)
Me too geez! WiCkEd iNiT!?! :D :p :cool:

Mr. Anderson
Sep 26, 2002, 04:15 PM
I'm thinking its not a bad poll either. I'm really interested in seeing how many women are on the boards, even though most of the forums are dominated by men. I'm thinking we'll see more than 10%

D

eyelikeart
Sep 26, 2002, 04:20 PM
I think this is pretty interesting. I think by generalization & tradition, women aren't technically savvy...therefore most would think there aren't many female computer users...let alone Mac users.

It doesn't surprise me though, that there are female Mac users around. Considering there are so many people who are into graphic design as well as many other creative jobs...and more & more women are filling these positions each day. ;)

diorio
Sep 26, 2002, 06:55 PM
Yes, it seems the ideas for polls are dwindling, but yet it will be interesting to see the results. Most of the posts I read seem to be written from males, but who knows. By the way, male.

arn
Sep 26, 2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by diorio
Yes, it seems the ideas for polls are dwindling

don't disrespect the poll! :)

arn

vniow
Sep 26, 2002, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by arn


don't disrespect the poll! :)

arn

Which one did you choose arn?:p

theaz
Sep 26, 2002, 10:21 PM
good poll. me like velly much

lenz
Sep 26, 2002, 10:47 PM
I'm sure there are alot of women that use macs but the ones that do probably have better things to do than hang out in online mac forums and/or are the ditzy type that just buy mac because they're pretty and easy to use.

Durandal7
Sep 27, 2002, 12:11 AM
I'm a butch hunk of man.

diorio
Sep 27, 2002, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by arn


don't disrespect the poll! :)

arn

Sorry, didn't mean no disrespect. All in all, its probably a good idea.

meghop
Sep 28, 2002, 03:48 AM
Okay, I will check in for the women. This is my first post, but I actually did vote in the poll to prove that some women do drop by here from time to time...

For the record, we girls are not all too involved with makeup or too stupid to run computers. I have had Macs since 1984 and am a devoted Mac-ite. I hate most makeup, and have a MA in Education and am working on my doctorate in clinical psychology. I get MacWorld AND MacAddict. I just love Macs and have two, a g4 667 graphite desktop and a new ibook. I just scraped up for an ipod, too. I even bought .mac. (I know, I know...) I put an apple sticker on my car. Male (and the other female I know) mac friends call me for help with their systems. I am an apple nerd for sure.

I have been lurking around these forums since the Jaguar buzz started, and most people here seem nice and very knowledgeable. I guess that there are some chicks like me who don't feel ok posting until they feel out the environment or have something interesting to say. So here I am guys, checking in for the female mac-lovers. We do exist! :-)

vniow
Sep 28, 2002, 03:53 AM
Well some girls may not be too involved with makeup, but there's a few guys here that do.:D

BTW, there's a few more females on the boards here (me included, sorta.:p ) check out this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11412) thread.:)

bombensington
Sep 28, 2002, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
I think this is pretty interesting. I think by generalization & tradition, women aren't technically savvy...therefore most would think there aren't many female computer users...let alone Mac users.

Originally posted by lenz
I'm sure there are alot of women that use macs but the ones that do probably have better things to do than hang out in online mac forums and/or are the ditzy type that just buy mac because they're pretty and easy to use.

Do you want women to post to this site...because with these posts, you may not be attracting very many. Tsk-tsk.

Sorry, gotta go, I have to apply more lipliner.

Sometimes boys are silly.

dreamlance
Sep 28, 2002, 05:40 PM
Boys will be boys sometimes :)

Nice to see another geek girl on the boards, meghop. I didn't mean that all girls are make-up and too ditzy to run computers just the ones I've run into for the most part. We geek girls gotta stick together :)

meghop
Sep 28, 2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by dreamlance
Boys will be boys sometimes :)

Nice to see another geek girl on the boards, meghop. I didn't mean that all girls are make-up and too ditzy to run computers just the ones I've run into for the most part. We geek girls gotta stick together :)


I agree - glad to be here among other mac-ies, whether male, female, or other...LOL ;)

SilvorX
Sep 28, 2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by edvniow
Well some girls may not be too involved with makeup, but there's a few guys here that do.:D

BTW, there's a few more females on the boards here (me included, sorta.:p ) check out this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11412) thread.:)
edvniow is creeping me out...eeeeeeeeek lol

vniow
Sep 28, 2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by SilvorX

edvniow is creeping me out...eeeeeeeeek lol

Just wait til I post a pic :eek: :p :D :o

scem0
Sep 28, 2002, 11:59 PM
Here is an idea for the next poll:

What isn't your gender?

Just an idea, since poll ideas are apperantly all gone....

ibjoshua
Sep 29, 2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by scem0
Here is an idea for the next poll:

What isn't your gender?

Just an idea, since poll ideas are apperantly all gone....

how about: "If Apple made an implant would you think about getting one?"

sorry, just feeling a bit silly. :)

i_b_joshua

scem0
Sep 29, 2002, 12:35 AM
I wouldn't call that being silly.... Innovative..... kinda.... perverted.... kinda....Creative....definitely. Crenovertive.

ibjoshua
Sep 29, 2002, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by scem0
I wouldn't call that being silly.... Innovative..... kinda.... perverted.... kinda....Creative....definitely. Crenovertive.
lol
so you gonna start one?

i_b_joshua

vniow
Sep 29, 2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by i_b_joshua

lol
so you gonna start one?

i_b_joshua


If he won't, then I will.:p

ibjoshua
Sep 29, 2002, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by edvniow



If he won't, then I will.:p

that's right because you never sleep.
:rolleyes:


i_b_joshua

vniow
Sep 29, 2002, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by i_b_joshua


that's right because you never sleep.
:rolleyes:


i_b_joshua


No, I'm just addicted to the refresh button. :)

SilvorX
Sep 29, 2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by edvniow



No, I'm just addicted to the refresh button. :)
on intercrud exploiter 6

vniow
Sep 29, 2002, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by SilvorX

on intercrud exploiter 6


Nope! On Mozilla 1.1 baby! W00t!! :D

diorio
Sep 30, 2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by scem0
Here is an idea for the next poll:

What isn't your gender?

Just an idea, since poll ideas are apperantly all gone....

Just look what Durandel7 did to community discussion.:D

wdlove
Oct 26, 2002, 09:14 PM
Male!:)

scem0
Oct 26, 2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by edvniow



Nope! On Mozilla 1.1 baby! W00t!! :D

Mozilla is too bulky. I haven't tried the PC version and to my knowledge u are using a PC. I will try it out now.

vniow
Oct 26, 2002, 09:20 PM
It's not too bulky for me, Phoenix is a bit faster, but I can take a bit of a speed hit as lond as I can see every page correctly.

scem0
Oct 26, 2002, 09:23 PM
Never heard of Phoenix. Ill try that too.

vniow
Oct 26, 2002, 09:24 PM
Get it here (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/phoenix-release-notes.html)

scem0
Oct 26, 2002, 09:30 PM
I don't like mozilla. It is slow compared to IE, and IE does everything I need it to do. All I need is something to eliminate pop-ups, like in Chimera.

vniow
Oct 26, 2002, 09:33 PM
Actually, Mozilla is faster then IE for me and it does have that pop-up blocker.

Phoenix is s stripped down version of it and is the fastest of anything I've tested.
Still kinda buggy, but a very good browser otherwise.

scem0
Oct 26, 2002, 09:36 PM
Weird, Moz was a lot slower. It wasn't slow, it was just a lot slower then IE which is very fast for me. I just downloaded a pop-up blocker for IE and it seems to be doing it's job.

vniow
Oct 26, 2002, 09:47 PM
Couldn't hurt to give either a try, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

TheMacOS.com
Mar 20, 2004, 04:05 AM
let me check......




Male. ;)

Urdam
Apr 11, 2004, 04:29 PM
I could have guessed that one

PickledSquirrel
Apr 15, 2004, 04:45 PM
Definitely female, and yes, it does seem that we are outnumbered in the geek-department:)
Funny to read adelaney's post, though; as I am both multiplying (7 months pregnant) AND spend a lot of time with my friend HEX who is a 20" iMac.... Guess it is difficult to fit into all other peoples ideas about the race:D Would be interesting to see figures and statisitcs on the subject. Any sociologists out there with nothing to do?

wdlove
Apr 15, 2004, 09:34 PM
Definitely female, and yes, it does seem that we are outnumbered in the geek-department:)
Funny to read adelaney's post, though; as I am both multiplying (7 months pregnant) AND spend a lot of time with my friend HEX who is a 20" iMac.... Guess it is difficult to fit into all other peoples ideas about the race:D Would be interesting to see figures and statistics on the subject. Any sociologists out there with nothing to do?

Congratulations on your pregnancy, it is a life changing event. I hope that you aren't having any problems. Do you know the sex? If not what are you wishing for? Have names picked?

macka
Apr 16, 2004, 02:19 AM
I went and asked my brother and he says I'm male. ;)

PickledSquirrel
Apr 16, 2004, 03:14 AM
thanks for the grats, wdlove:) Dunno gender yet, but pretty sure it's a pirate. Not wishing for anything specific though, will happily welcome anything.
Names thought of? well not much specific, but difinitely something old and heathen as both boyfriend and I are not christians :D (most people in our country have christian names, more due to tradition than religion)
-and yes, so far everything is going awfully well. Not feeling sick, not being more hysterical than usual. Getting the living s... kicked out of me on a daily basis, but pirate is not big enough to cause terminal injuries yet... It is true what they say about pickles though :o