mbox mail doesn't work in Lion

[Mikegs]

Hi guys

Does anybody, like me, use mbox mail for mac in order to get imap like features to hotmail accounts in mac mail?

Worked perfectly in SL but asks for a password in Lion, and this password is different from the hotmail password.....

[tbln]

Yep, I have the same issue! Its a real bummer.

I'd prefer to use Mail but I'll have to stick with Outlook 2011 for now.

[MrMoore]

Another person who discovered mBox does not work under Lion. Their website and twitter feed has not been updated in a while either.

Darn :(

[reseul]

Mail 5 seems to be using the IMAP AUTHENTICATE command.
It's possible previous version used LOGIN command (I tried this one with mbox from telnet and worked well).
Wonder if Mail can be "convinced" to use the old mechanism.. Digging...

[funlad]

Same problems here - any solutions gratefully received.

Another possible way around... on the iPhone, Hotmail can be set up using Microsoft Exchange which does give the IMAP functionality of keeping the inbox synched etc. I tried using the same settings in Lion Mail as for my iPhone but it didn't work. Maybe there is another work around to be found there if MBox cannot be made to work or it not updated!?

[heppuhei]

Tips:

http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/mbox-mail-for-mac-works-on-lion-with-thurderbird/

[reseul]

But you need a hex editor and some dirt on your hands.

Basically you have to replace all AUTH=PLAIN with an equal number of spaces in the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail/mBoxMail file.

[DLuther]

But you need a hex editor and some dirt on your hands.

Basically you have to replace all AUTH=PLAIN with an equal number of spaces in the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail/mBoxMail file.

--- Appreciate the tip - one would think that the FluentFactory people could get a fast fix out on this. I've opened a support ticket with them alerting them to the fact that Lion has a password issue with the mBox configuration... there's nothing in their blogs or support forums and frankly I'm surprised that any beta testing didn't surface this issue sooner to prevent this.

[pjdamen]

But you need a hex editor and some dirt on your hands.

Basically you have to replace all AUTH=PLAIN with an equal number of spaces in the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail/mBoxMail file.



Care to explain it a bit more?

[pjdamen]

Care to explain it a bit more?

Done the change. Mbox does seem to suffer from the trial expired bug now :(

[thebruge]

But you need a hex editor and some dirt on your hands.

Basically you have to replace all AUTH=PLAIN with an equal number of spaces in the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail/mBoxMail file.

Thanks for the idea, worked like a charm!! I used "HexFiend" to edit the file (make a backup first). You need to stop the service first in control panel. Then just use the find and replace function to replace "AUTH=PLAIN" to 10 spaces. I think there were 5 occurrences in mine that needed to be replaced.

Fire up the service again and bingo! All back to normal! Someone mentioned registration error, but mine seems to be working fine.

[MrMoore]

But you need a hex editor and some dirt on your hands.

Basically you have to replace all AUTH=PLAIN with an equal number of spaces in the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail/mBoxMail file.


Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!

:D

I was going to try Outlook 2011, but I thought that it might still only make a POP connection. Saved me that hassle.

Thanks for the tip!

[funlad]

Thanks for the idea, worked like a charm!! I used "HexFiend" to edit the file (make a backup first). You need to stop the service first in control panel. Then just use the find and replace function to replace "AUTH=PLAIN" to 10 spaces. I think there were 5 occurrences in mine that needed to be replaced.

Fire up the service again and bingo! All back to normal! Someone mentioned registration error, but mine seems to be working fine.

BRILLIANT! Thanks so much - good work!!

[Well]

Thanks for the idea, worked like a charm!! I used "HexFiend" to edit the file (make a backup first). You need to stop the service first in control panel. Then just use the find and replace function to replace "AUTH=PLAIN" to 10 spaces. I think there were 5 occurrences in mine that needed to be replaced.

Fire up the service again and bingo! All back to normal! Someone mentioned registration error, but mine seems to be working fine.

Sorry to be so dumb but how do I find the folder

/usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail ?

It doesn't appear in finder, or at least I can't find it

[funlad]

Sorry to be so dumb but how do I find the folder

/usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail ?

It doesn't appear in finder, or at least I can't find it

It's a hidden directory. Open up Finder. From the top menu select GO then GO TO FOLDER. Then type /usr and you will have the directory USR pop up from which you can navigate to the local/FluentFactory folders.

[gugy]

yep mBox does not work under lion.
Bummer, I hope they will have a fix soon.
Sorry, I have no idea how to use these Hex Editor stuff. :confused:

[DLuther]

The instructions posted here do work. It's probably best to read this string of messages backwards to avoid frustration. First download a HexEditor if you don't have one. Be sure to stop and completely log out of mBox. Then you've got to get into the hidden folder and navigate to the file. Then edit the file per the instructions. Restart mBox. All should be good... it worked for me.

[gugy]

Does anybody know a Hex Editor on the Mac? I don't use Windows at all.
Thanks

[thebruge]

Does anybody know a Hex Editor on the Mac? I don't use Windows at all.
Thanks

This is what I used:

http://ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/

Free, and did the job! :D

[gugy]

This is what I used:

http://ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/

Free, and did the job! :D

Thanks,
I did download it, found the mBox file inside the USR directory and open it using hex fiend but got lost there without knowing what to do next. :confused:
Sorry, I have never used such a thing. :(
I guess I need to wait for Fluent factory to rescue me.

[reseul]

1. Ok, so download Hex Fiend from the link shown by other users.
Also stop mBox server, your email client, etc.
2. Go to the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail folder with Finder (use Go/Go To Folder menu to get into the hidden /usr folder)
3. Make a copy of the mBoxMail file
4. Open file mBoxMail with Hex Fiend using Open With...
5. In Hex Fiend, choose Edit/Find/Find...
6. In the panel that showed up on top, choose the ASCII radio button
7. Enter AUTH=PLAIN in the Find field
8. Enter 10 spaces in the Replace field
9. Execute "Replace All"
10 Try File/Save
11. It may not work because of rights issues. Dismiss the error message and leave the Hex Fiend running.
12. Separately open a Terminal window
13. Execute "cd /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail"
14. Execute "whoami". The name that shows up is your account alias. Mine is resell, yours is different. Use yours in the next command
15. Execute "sudo chown reseul mBoxMail". You may get prompted for password. Enter it.
16 Back to Hex Fiend, try File Save again. It should work now.
17 Back to terminal, execute "sudo chown root mBoxMail" to restore the right owner (root).

You're done. Close the hex editor, terminal, restart the mbox server..

Now, this may not be the most optimal path. I tried my best.
I hope it helps.

[Mikegs]

That DID work. Thanks a lot!

[martvanderpol]

16 Back to Hex Fiend, try File Save again. It should work now.
17 Back to terminal, execute "sudo chown root mBoxMail" to restore the right owner (root).


Ok, so I did everything as you described, only when I try to save the file, it still won't allow me. "Computer says no."

[martvanderpol]

After changing file-permissions manually and savin the file,
Mail still keeps asking for password :(

[larrybradshaw]

1. Ok, so download Hex Fiend from the link shown by other users.
Also stop mBox server, your email client, etc.
2. Go to the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail folder with Finder (use Go/Go To Folder menu to get into the hidden /usr folder)
3. Make a copy of the mBoxMail file
4. Open file mBoxMail with Hex Fiend using Open With...
5. In Hex Fiend, choose Edit/Find/Find...
6. In the panel that showed up on top, choose the ASCII radio button
7. Enter AUTH=PLAIN in the Find field
8. Enter 10 spaces in the Replace field
9. Execute "Replace All"
10 Try File/Save
11. It may not work because of rights issues. Dismiss the error message and leave the Hex Fiend running.
12. Separately open a Terminal window
13. Execute "cd /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail"
14. Execute "whoami". The name that shows up is your account alias. Mine is resell, yours is different. Use yours in the next command
15. Execute "sudo chown reseul mBoxMail". You may get prompted for password. Enter it.
16 Back to Hex Fiend, try File Save again. It should work now.
17 Back to terminal, execute "sudo chown root mBoxMail" to restore the right owner (root).

You're done. Close the hex editor, terminal, restart the mbox server..

Now, this may not be the most optimal path. I tried my best.
I hope it helps.

I tried all the instructions but when I search for AUTH=PLAIN, it doesn't find any references to that???

[brandscill]

Finally heard back from fluent factory, they're looking into it..... bugger

[gugy]

Finally heard back from fluent factory, they're looking into it..... bugger

Yes, they will look into it. They emailed me today. It might take few days or weeks.
Anyway, I will just wait. This Hex editor thing is just too complicate for me.

[lcastagnini]

When I execute "Replace All" nothing seems to happen. I just kept going and when I used "Save" I did not get any error message. So I just kept going......finally my mbox does not work. Does anybody know what I did wrong? Any suggestions? Thank you

[bobbba]

Anybody having the Trial Expired problem? I purchased the app and it registers ok but then looses it when I close the preferences pane.

[pjdamen]

For those who got it to work: did you do a clean install or an upgrade?

I'm still getting a trial expired although I registered twice :(

[funlad]

For those who got it to work: did you do a clean install or an upgrade?

I'm still getting a trial expired although I registered twice :(

It worked for me... my Lion install was an upgrade... wasn't everyones? There was no option to do a 'Clean Install' when I installed!

[shuttlemanuk]

I've followed the procedure but it doesn't seemingly pull the emails from the hotmail server.

It doesn't prompt for the password as before the procedure but nothing gets downloaded.

Has anyone got any suggestions as to what else I could try?

Thanks for the help.

Cheers

P.S. My install was an upgrade so the problem would seem to be intermitent

[shuttlemanuk]

Update:

It seems to be working now. Just did the above plus stopped and started the server and it worked. The performance can seem slow with mbox for me. Sometimes opening and cloying mail can kick it in to action.

Hope this helps others.

[whoisandy]

Followed the HexFiend instructions from page 1 and it worked. Was a bit sticky at first - was getting errors about connection timeout but I did change some settings earlier trying to get this working but once I restored the original settings, restarted Mail & mBox server again, everything came back! Can send emails no problem, too.

Thanks!!!

[Skyholder01]

Followed the HexFiend instructions from page 1 and it worked. Was a bit sticky at first - was getting errors about connection timeout but I did change some settings earlier trying to get this working but once I restored the original settings, restarted Mail & mBox server again, everything came back! Can send emails no problem, too.

Thanks!!!
My question.... can you see your hotmail FOLDERS?
I'm able to send and receive, but thats all.

[brandscill]

Someone has created an easy fix here http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/mbox-mail-for-mac-on-lion-fix-works-with-apple-mail-5/

[pjdamen]

It worked for me... my Lion install was an upgrade... wasn't everyones? There was no option to do a 'Clean Install' when I installed!

You can acytually burn the DMG inside of the installer and burn it to disc or stick. You are then able to clean install.

[Skyholder01]

I accidentally removed my mBox program. It had been purchased, so I have the registration number. Any thoughts on how to download it, without having to purchase again?

[pjdamen]

For those who got it to work: did you do a clean install or an upgrade?

I'm still getting a trial expired although I registered twice :(

Did an upgrade from leopard. Now everything finally works. So it seems a clean Lion misses some needed parts.

[DLuther]

Just an update - this works great to RECEIVE mail but I've found it is NOT allowing me to SEND mail. Any advice/updates would be most appreciated. I did open a support ticket with FluentFactory that mBox was not compatible with Lion and received a reply email that they are "looking into it."

1. Ok, so download Hex Fiend from the link shown by other users.
Also stop mBox server, your email client, etc.
2. Go to the /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail folder with Finder (use Go/Go To Folder menu to get into the hidden /usr folder)
3. Make a copy of the mBoxMail file
4. Open file mBoxMail with Hex Fiend using Open With...
5. In Hex Fiend, choose Edit/Find/Find...
6. In the panel that showed up on top, choose the ASCII radio button
7. Enter AUTH=PLAIN in the Find field
8. Enter 10 spaces in the Replace field
9. Execute "Replace All"
10 Try File/Save
11. It may not work because of rights issues. Dismiss the error message and leave the Hex Fiend running.
12. Separately open a Terminal window
13. Execute "cd /usr/local/FluentFactory/mBoxMail"
14. Execute "whoami". The name that shows up is your account alias. Mine is resell, yours is different. Use yours in the next command
15. Execute "sudo chown reseul mBoxMail". You may get prompted for password. Enter it.
16 Back to Hex Fiend, try File Save again. It should work now.
17 Back to terminal, execute "sudo chown root mBoxMail" to restore the right owner (root).

You're done. Close the hex editor, terminal, restart the mbox server..

Now, this may not be the most optimal path. I tried my best.
I hope it helps.

[Skyholder01]

Someone has created an easy fix here http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/mbox-mail-for-mac-on-lion-fix-works-with-apple-mail-5/

Just want to offer my thanks.
Worked like a champ!
You have my gratitude.
Sky

[reseul]

DLuther, sending email shouldn't involve mboxmail at all.
Check the mail config settings, the outgoing smtp address or similar.

MBoxMail is just for tyne incoming path.

[bobbba]

Someone has created an easy fix here http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/mbox-mail-for-mac-on-lion-fix-works-with-apple-mail-5/

Worked for me too. Now I'm just hoping that fluent factory get off their arses and fix the license reg bug in the the next 30 days so I don't have to hack that as well...

[brandscill]

I emailed them a link to the fix like a come on guys, someone else has done this in a matter of days and you've had months to test this.

[rfernand79]

For those who got it to work: did you do a clean install or an upgrade?

I'm still getting a trial expired although I registered twice :(

The preference pane does not seem to be able to write to the appropriate file. try the following:

1. Stop and quit mBox
2. Open Terminal
3. cd /Library/Preferences
4. sudo chmod 777 .
5. sudo chmod 777 com.fluentfactory.MboxMail.plist
6. Go to System Preferences and reregister. Quit and reenter to verify registration is persisted *
7. Return to Terminal and make sure you;re in /Library/Preferences
8. sudo chmod 755 .
9. sudo chmod 644 com.fluentfactory.MboxMail.plist


* If this fails, you may need to open the plist file in Xcode, remove the days remaining key, and then register.

[nuxx]

Looks like mBox Mail's been updated (http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/purchase.php) to version 1.0.3. I've not tried this latest update, but assume it's now Lion compatible.

[funlad]

Looks like mBox Mail's been updated (http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/purchase.php) to version 1.0.3. I've not tried this latest update, but assume it's now Lion compatible.

Has anyone downloaded and tried the updated version? I'm a bit reluctant to, as after editing the hex file as described above it is working fine for me, so I don't want to rock the boat....

[brandscill]

Can confirm the update works.

After the instal it will ask you to upgrade to version 1.02 obviously don't it must be a bug.

A downside is it's still 32bit only :(

I also am a little disappointed they didn't post this on their blog where I've been checking daily, or respond to my original support email informing me of an update. I simply only found out thanks to a poster on here and an email from my subscription to this thread.

[mbrownug]

Their web site still shows 1.0.2? What happen to the 1.0.3 Lion fix?

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/purchase.php

mBox Mail for Mac 1.0.2
File name: mboxmail.1.0.2.dmg
Date: 20-10-09
Size: 1.5 MB
Requirements: Mac OSX 10.6+

[Sammalicious]

Yeah, it only shows 1.0.2 for me as well... :confused:

Was it taken down, perhaps? When was 1.0.3 posted?

[mbrownug]

I got this reply today:


Hello,

Thank you for using mBox Mail for Mac.

I am sorry that you are having problems after updating to Mac OSX Lion.

Our team is currently working on this issue, and we will be releasing an update soon on our website.

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/

We appreciate your patience, and we will alert you via email once this update is available.

Best Regards,

Diana

Fluent Factory Support Team

[brandscill]

Appears to have been taken down.


Though it works, it's still buggy. Doesn't always fetch email without restarting the mail app.

Maybe they took it down to sort that issue as well. Maybe even make it 64 bit.

I still have the installer if anyone wants it for 1.0.3

[brandscill]

I got this reply today:


Hello,

Thank you for using mBox Mail for Mac.

I am sorry that you are having problems after updating to Mac OSX Lion.

Our team is currently working on this issue, and we will be releasing an update soon on our website.

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/

We appreciate your patience, and we will alert you via email once this update is available.

Best Regards,

Diana

Fluent Factory Support Team
Ha, same email from the same person!

[reseul]

I had issues with fetching email before the Lion upgrade, and they continue now as well..
I close/open Mail regularly.
At least it's predictable... Any other solution I had tried for this "reading hotmail in mac mail" mess got me into even worse states...

I'm not happy, don't get me wrong.

[Sammalicious]

I had issues with fetching email before the Lion upgrade, and they continue now as well..
I close/open Mail regularly.
At least it's predictable... Any other solution I had tried for this "reading hotmail in mac mail" mess got me into even worse states...

I'm not happy, don't get me wrong.


Is that normal to have issues fetching email?? I had that issue before upgrading to Lion as well, but I thought it was just my connection to the mBox mail app or something... it's a PITA to have to constantly restart Mail in order to get new emails to sync! I guess I'm not the only one having the problem.. :eek:

[bobbba]

Still seems to be working for me with 1.02 and the fixes.

[brandscill]

Yeah I had the same problem in snow leopard too, no amount of emails to their support would get them to address it either

[corwit]

I tried all the instructions but when I search for AUTH=PLAIN, it doesn't find any references to that???

For everybody:
http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/tag/mbox-mail-for-mac-lion/

follow this instructions, and you are off and on in a minute (works directly)

[Sammalicious]

For everybody:
http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/tag/mbox-mail-for-mac-lion/

follow this instructions, and you are off and on in a minute (works directly)

Thank you so much!! I did this, and it works, but I don't understand how this is possible. What happened for it to be able to work? Could someone please explain this to me?

Thank you!!! ;)

[brandscill]

Anyone else get an email asking to try out 1.0.6?

It works no better, in fact I think it's worse haha

[tbln]

For everybody:
http://nicholasworkshop.wordpress.com/tag/mbox-mail-for-mac-lion/

follow this instructions, and you are off and on in a minute (works directly)

I wish this would work for me. My registration doesn't stick and I get the error that my trial has expired. :(

[bobbba]

I wish this would work for me. My registration doesn't stick and I get the error that my trial has expired. :(

Read rfernand79's post 45 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13043428&postcount=45) in this topic, tells you how to fix the registration problem.

[tbln]

Read rfernand79's post 45 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13043428&postcount=45) in this topic, tells you how to fix the registration problem.

I did, it didn't work for me.

[brandscill]

Update to this lion compatible beta

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/bin/mboxmail.1.0.6.dmg

[ksanna]

I contacted mbox mail (Fluent Factory) as I too could not get my mbox mail to work correctly with the new Lion upgrade on my MAC.

They sent me the following link and it now works:-

"Can you please try loading mBox Mail for Mac v1.0.6 now available on our website:

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/download.php