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G5Unit
Apr 8, 2005, 05:41 PM
This weekend I am planing to hook my friends computer (PC) to my G5. Should I use ethernet? Or I heard it's possible with firewire. Gonna play BF 1942.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Apr 8, 2005, 05:45 PM
TCP/IP over IEEE1394 (http://www.pcbuyersguide.com/solutions/networks/ieee1394_networking.html)

Haven't read the article, but it seems like what you need...

Daveway
Apr 8, 2005, 05:46 PM
You would definitely use ethernet. ;)

G5Unit
Apr 8, 2005, 05:54 PM
Is BF 1942 playable mac to pc over ethernet? Halo?

Rocksaurus
Apr 8, 2005, 06:50 PM
Awesome article, I wasn't aware such a thing existed...

TDM21
Apr 8, 2005, 07:17 PM
If you want to create a ethernet connection between the two computers, but do not have a hub or router, I suggest a cross-over cable. This cable allows you to connect two computers together with just the cable. Setup is easy. Connect the computers together with the cable, set up their networking prefrences so that they are in the same IP range (each computer will have a ip address like 19.168.0.xxx) and are in the same subnet. this should allow the two computers to see each other.

G5Unit
Apr 8, 2005, 11:01 PM
yeh we got the cable, any way how to set up the IPs?

TDM21
Apr 9, 2005, 12:47 AM
For the cross over cable?

step by step process:

PowerMac:
1. Open system preferences
2. click network
3. double-click Built-in Ethernet
4. Change the "Configure IPv4" option to Manually
5. Input a random IP address (like 192.168.3.56) doesn't really matter
6. Input a subnet (if there is one there then just stick with it. its probable like 255.255.255.0)
7. Click "Apply Now" in the bottom right hand corner
NOTE: once settings are input, you will probably not be able to connect to the internet until your set the "configure IPv4 to your default setting, unless you use dial-up

Windows computer:
I'm assuming your friend is running windows XP or 2000
1. click start > control panel
2. double-click on Network and dial-up connections
3. right click the connection that will be used to hook the computer up to your PM (probably labeled Local Area Connection)
4. click properties
5. In the white box, find the item labeled "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and double-click it.
6. click the button beside "Use the following IP address"
7. Input an IP address in the same IP range as the one you gave to the PowerMac (192.168.3.xx just as long as the first 3 sets of numbers correspond)
8. Set the subnet to the same as the PowerMac
9. Leave everything else alone and click "OK"
10. Click "OK" again.
NOTE: to return the settings back, just click the button "Obtain IP address automatically" under the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) options.

That's it (I hope). You should be set to play.

gekko513
Apr 9, 2005, 01:15 AM
If you want to create a ethernet connection between the two computers, but do not have a hub or router, I suggest a cross-over cable. This cable allows you to connect two computers together with just the cable. Setup is easy. Connect the computers together with the cable, set up their networking prefrences so that they are in the same IP range (each computer will have a ip address like 19.168.0.xxx) and are in the same subnet. this should allow the two computers to see each other.
You don't need a cross-over cable when at least one of the computers is a Mac. You can just use a regular ethernet cable. The Mac will do the cross-over automatically.

lordmac
Apr 9, 2005, 01:20 AM
For the cross over cable?

step by step process:

PowerMac:
1. Open system preferences
2. click network
3. double-click Built-in Ethernet
4. Change the "Configure IPv4" option to Manually
5. Input a random IP address (like 192.168.3.56) doesn't really matter
6. Input a subnet (if there is one there then just stick with it. its probable like 255.255.255.0)
7. Click "Apply Now" in the bottom right hand corner
NOTE: once settings are input, you will probably not be able to connect to the internet until your set the "configure IPv4 to your default setting, unless you use dial-up

Windows computer:
I'm assuming your friend is running windows XP or 2000
1. click start > control panel
2. double-click on Network and dial-up connections
3. right click the connection that will be used to hook the computer up to your PM (probably labeled Local Area Connection)
4. click properties
5. In the white box, find the item labeled "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and double-click it.
6. click the button beside "Use the following IP address"
7. Input an IP address in the same IP range as the one you gave to the PowerMac (192.168.3.xx just as long as the first 3 sets of numbers correspond)
8. Set the subnet to the same as the PowerMac
9. Leave everything else alone and click "OK"
10. Click "OK" again.
NOTE: to return the settings back, just click the button "Obtain IP address automatically" under the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) options.

That's it (I hope). You should be set to play.

Wouldn't it be easer to just to turn on internet sharing on the power mac, even if though this isn't the intent but when you turn that on it dose all that routing stuff for (it basically acts as a router). NOt that your way wouldn't work it just seems more complicated to one who isn't the best with computers. :)

TDM21
Apr 9, 2005, 09:30 AM
You don't need a cross-over cable when at least one of the computers is a Mac. You can just use a regular ethernet cable. The Mac will do the cross-over automatically.

Your kidding. That's the first time i heard about this. You still have to assign an IP address and the subnet to the Windows computer.


Wouldn't it be easer to just to turn on internet sharing on the power mac, even if though this isn't the intent but when you turn that on it dose all that routing stuff for (it basically acts as a router). NOt that your way wouldn't work it just seems more complicated to one who isn't the best with computers.

I've had trouble with that before. For me a lot of the time my Mac won't assign an IP address. Its like DHCP isn't running. Of course I had this same problem with my Windows computer once. DHCP just stopped working and I had to assign an IP address to my Mac.

I know my way is complicated and leaves alot of room for error, but I have had alot of success and few problems setting everything up manually.

yellow
Apr 9, 2005, 10:09 AM
Your kidding. That's the first time i heard about this. You still have to assign an IP address and the subnet to the Windows computer.

Yep, the ethernet ports on macs for quite a while now are auto-sensing.

bokdol
Apr 11, 2005, 07:50 AM
Yep, the ethernet ports on macs for quite a while now are auto-sensing.

here is a list of macs that need it and dont.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42717

G5Unit
Apr 11, 2005, 10:09 AM
Cool thanks! But I have the cross over so I'll just use that.