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mambogeek
Jul 21, 2011, 10:22 AM
I just did a pre-order from Amazon. Has anyone else done the same?

Just wondering if there is any confirmed or unconfirmed rumor on the ETA from Amazon yet. Just trying to save almost $80 bucks on tax for me.

If it's going to take too long, I would bite the bullet and just get it from Apple Store.



TheBMill
Jul 21, 2011, 10:27 AM
Hah, we're in the same boat. I had pre-ordered an 11 inch with 256gb of ram in the Apple store at 10am yesterday. Never got an email confirmation and it seemed like it was taking too long...Then I discovered the Amazon pre-order price without tax and all on the 128gb and couldn't pass on that deal.

But, yeah, long story short: I pre-ordered around 6pm PST yesterday and it still says I can cancel the order on Amazon, which usually means we're not close to shipping yet.

diamond3
Jul 21, 2011, 10:33 AM
http://www.appleinsider.com/mac_price_guide/

Macmall pricing through appleinsider discount:
11" 64GB:$940
128GB:$1129
13" 128GB:$1216
256GB: $1502


It looks like macmall is the cheapest now if you follow the link above and click on the model/price you want. Shipping says 1-3 days

TheBMill
Jul 21, 2011, 10:45 AM
http://www.appleinsider.com/mac_price_guide/

Macmall pricing through appleinsider discount:
11" 64GB:$940
128GB:$1129
13" 128GB:$1216
256GB: $1502


It looks like macmall is the cheapest now if you follow the link above and click on the model/price you want. Shipping says 1-3 days

Does Macmall charge tax though? In CA that's close to a $100 difference. (Amazon doesn't charge tax)

amjustice
Jul 21, 2011, 10:50 AM
I just did a pre-order from Amazon. Has anyone else done the same?

Just wondering if there is any confirmed or unconfirmed rumor on the ETA from Amazon yet. Just trying to save almost $80 bucks on tax for me.

If it's going to take too long, I would bite the bullet and just get it from Apple Store.

How did you do the pre-order? Link?

ghsNick
Jul 21, 2011, 10:58 AM
You're saving, but not really.

$1199 MBA on Apple with EDU equals $1149 + 7% tax = $1229.43 + $100 Giftcard

$1199 MBA on Amazon = $1195

So technically you're getting $65 more through Apple.

All this applies to EDU Discount eligible people.

If you're not eligible for a discount go through Amazon.

mambogeek
Jul 21, 2011, 11:18 AM
How did you do the pre-order? Link?

Here is the link...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CWIN1E

mambogeek
Jul 21, 2011, 11:20 AM
Guess most people are on the same waiting boat. *sigh* Was hoping for an ETA rumor somewhera about Amazon. :(

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 11:31 AM
You're saving, but not really.

$1199 MBA on Apple with EDU equals $1149 + 7% tax = $1229.43 + $100 Giftcard

$1199 MBA on Amazon = $1195

So technically you're getting $65 more through Apple.

All this applies to EDU Discount eligible people.

If you're not eligible for a discount go through Amazon.

You're saving, REALLY. So tired of people calling the $100 credit on the App Store a "savings" ... IF you use the app store and planned on spending $100 in the next year or so, yeah, call it a savings, but for most (see app store usage statistics), it's a smoke-and-mirrors offer that they'll only use because they get it, which means it's not a savings, it's just an add-on value.

Bottom line, If someone lives in CA and wants a stock 11" upper model:

APPLE (No Discount) - - $1199 + 105 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1322

EDU - $1149 + $101 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste fee + $10 2-3 day dleivery = $1268 ... then you get a bonus of $100 in software, but that's far from "money in pocket" for most that didn't plan to buy $100 in pocket.

BUSINESS - $1127 + 96 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1243

AMAZON - $1195 + $0 Tax + $0 CA eWaste + $0 2 day shipping = $1195

Sure seems like Amazon is the cheapest to me. It's like someone saying that it's a better deal for you to buy a car from Toyota of Oakland because even though their car is cheaper, they'll throw in a "undercoat protector, a $100 value" for free. Well if you're like most, you weren't planning on buying it anyhow, so the value is minimal since even if you wanted it done, you could have it done elsewhere for 75% off the "value" they state.

Most people are blinded by marketing... it's okay. When Apple was giving away free iPods it was a good deal because you were getting a tangible in-demand piece of hardware you could sell to recoup costs. With this, that's essentially squashed. This is a great deal, but ONLY if you planned on buying software and buying it from the inflated App Store prices anyhow.

Be smart consumers, see through marketing BS people.

amjustice
Jul 21, 2011, 11:33 AM
Amazon pre-order placed. Hopefully they will get them in sometime this week.

Bob Coxner
Jul 21, 2011, 11:52 AM
Does Macmall charge tax though? In CA that's close to a $100 difference. (Amazon doesn't charge tax)

Yes, MacMall charges tax in CA. MacConnection does not.

Here's a list of authorized Apple retailers and their Air prices along with tax and shipping info.

http://www.macprices.net/macbookair.shtml

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 11:55 AM
Yes, MacMall charges tax in CA. MacConnection does not.

Here's a list of authorized Apple retailers and their Air prices along with tax and shipping info.

http://www.macprices.net/macbookair.shtml

I don't like those compare charts because info tends to be biased. Apple rarely delivers laptops using ground. Same with Amazon. If you order from Amazon, they always use 2 day shipping for computers. Apple in my experience has been the same way for me, but I've never had them actually say it. Amazon will say it if you call em :-)

Bob Coxner
Jul 21, 2011, 11:55 AM
You're saving, REALLY. So tired of people calling the $100 credit on the App Store a "savings" ... IF you use the app store and planned on spending $100 in the next year or so, yeah, call it a savings, but for most (see app store usage statistics), it's a smoke-and-mirrors offer that they'll only use because they get it, which means it's not a savings, it's just an add-on value.

Bottom line, If someone lives in CA and wants a stock 11" upper model:

APPLE (No Discount) - - $1199 + 105 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1322

EDU - $1149 + $101 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste fee + $10 2-3 day dleivery = $1268 ... then you get a bonus of $100 in software, but that's far from "money in pocket" for most that didn't plan to buy $100 in pocket.

BUSINESS - $1127 + 96 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1243

AMAZON - $1195 + $0 Tax + $0 CA eWaste + $0 2 day shipping = $1195

Sure seems like Amazon is the cheapest to me. It's like someone saying that it's a better deal for you to buy a car from Toyota of Oakland because even though their car is cheaper, they'll throw in a "undercoat protector, a $100 value" for free. Well if you're like most, you weren't planning on buying it anyhow, so the value is minimal since even if you wanted it done, you could have it done elsewhere for 75% off the "value" they state.

Most people are blinded by marketing... it's okay. When Apple was giving away free iPods it was a good deal because you were getting a tangible in-demand piece of hardware you could sell to recoup costs. With this, that's essentially squashed. This is a great deal, but ONLY if you planned on buying software and buying it from the inflated App Store prices anyhow.

Be smart consumers, see through marketing BS people.

MacConnection would be cheaper in CA at $1149 and no tax, free ground shipping.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 11:58 AM
MacConnection would be cheaper in CA at $1149 and no tax, free ground shipping.

I just don't consider MacConnection when I buy. I ordered from them once, and they took 2 weeks (a WEEK to process an IN-STOCK item), then a week for UPS to deliver, since it's archaic GROUND.

Whenever you order something ground, look at the box. It usually arrives looking like it's been through a rock tumbler.

What can brown do for me? Put it on a plane, or let fedEx take it, hehe

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 12:06 PM
MacConnection would be cheaper in CA at $1149 and no tax, free ground shipping.

For the slight price difference, I'd go with Amazon for peace of mind. Any problems Amazon fixes right away, their customer service is amazing.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 12:06 PM
For the slight price difference, I'd go with Amazon for peace of mind. Any problems Amazon fixes right away, their customer service is amazing.

I agree 100%. Amazon will re-ship a replacement before getting back the old one, most won't.

SpiffyChee
Jul 21, 2011, 12:14 PM
When I go to macmall and try to configure the 11.6" air with the 1.8 ghz i7 it shows up for a second then as the page finishes loading it only allows me to choose the i5. But with the 13" air I can select the i7 with no difficulty... Does anyone else know why this is happening? Is it permanent? How much does the upgrade cost?

JonathanK81
Jul 21, 2011, 12:21 PM
I agree 100%. Amazon will re-ship a replacement before getting back the old one, most won't.

This is incorrect. I know this firsthand. Amazon will usually ship a replacement immediately, but due to the cost of the MacBook Air (or similarly priced computer) Amazon will NOT ship you a replacement, unless you pay for it as if you were buying a second MBA.

So if you get a MBA with a problem, you either return it first, get the refund, then reorder a replacement. Or you create an entirely new second order, and then return the first after you receive the second. But Amazon will not re-ship a replacement before getting the old one back, unless you pay for both. You basically have to pay for two, if you want an "instant" replacement.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 12:23 PM
This is incorrect. I know this firsthand. Amazon will usually ship a replacement immediately, but due to the cost of the MacBook Air (or similarly priced computer) Amazon will NOT ship you a replacement, unless you pay for it as if you were buying a second MBA.

So if you get a MBA with a problem, you either return it first, get the refund, then reorder a replacement. Or you order the second one, and then return the first after you receive the second one. But Amazon will not re-ship a replacement before getting the old one back, unless you pay for both. You basically have to pay for two, if you want an "instant" replacement.

Well I suppose for those of us with long-standing business with them, they do it, not sure. It's their computer department, so my guess is completely discretionary on their part. But then again, I spend $25k a year with them, and with my credit card on file there's no reason for them not to reship. If I don't send it back, they can charge. I've had several DOA from Amazon over the years. Never had any issues.

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 12:29 PM
This is incorrect. I know this firsthand. Amazon will usually ship a replacement immediately, but due to the cost of the MacBook Air (or similarly priced computer) Amazon will NOT ship you a replacement, unless you pay for it as if you were buying a second MBA.

So if you get a MBA with a problem, you either return it first, get the refund, then reorder a replacement. Or you create an entirely new second order, and then return the first after you receive the second. But Amazon will not re-ship a replacement before getting the old one back, unless you pay for both. You basically have to pay for two, if you want an "instant" replacement.

Ask nicely and they will ship you one first.:D

Sdevante
Jul 21, 2011, 12:39 PM
Having worked at Amazon.com in customer service back in the day, I can tell you that had somebody asked me, I would likely have required a return prior sending out a replacement on such an item.

I would, however, have given you an apology for any inconvenience and a $10 gift certificate for a future purchase . . . had you yelled at me enough.

:)

fristuff
Jul 21, 2011, 12:44 PM
I'm looking to buy a base 13 inch and the NY tax kills it everywhere... any suggestions?

I can get educational discount, but tax alone is +100 and... can the $100 app store thing be sold too?

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 12:52 PM
You're saving, REALLY. So tired of people calling the $100 credit on the App Store a "savings" ... IF you use the app store and planned on spending $100 in the next year or so, yeah, call it a savings, but for most (see app store usage statistics), it's a smoke-and-mirrors offer that they'll only use because they get it, which means it's not a savings, it's just an add-on value.

Really? Are you SO TIREDOMG?!

Calm down man, your general attitude on this board is the tiring thing.

Actually, a LOT of people will use it. You don't speak for the general public, and I am sure many people will use it. I know I have a few purchases lined up already myself.

Also, in case it was not clear, you can use it on the MAC APP STORE, THE APP STORE (iOS), ITUNES STORE OR IBOOKSTORE. Surely people could find some use for it, I know I could in a single day.

This is a BACK TO SCHOOL promo. For students. A lot of students need different types of software depending on the classes they are taking.

It isn't some SMOKE AND MIRRORS CONSPIRACY OMG.


Sure seems like Amazon is the cheapest to me. It's like someone saying that it's a better deal for you to buy a car from Toyota of Oakland because even though their car is cheaper, they'll throw in a "undercoat protector, a $100 value" for free. Well if you're like most, you weren't planning on buying it anyhow, so the value is minimal since even if you wanted it done, you could have it done elsewhere for 75% off the "value" they state.

Wow, overreact much? I mean, I know we are talking about the bottom line cheapest here, but again, the card does indeed have value to a lot of people. You are acting like the bonus that Apple graciously threw in is some kind of scam.

Most people are blinded by marketing... it's okay. When Apple was giving away free iPods it was a good deal because you were getting a tangible in-demand piece of hardware you could sell to recoup costs. With this, that's essentially squashed. This is a great deal, but ONLY if you planned on buying software and buying it from the inflated App Store prices anyhow.

Nope, the card is an actual tangible card that is not linked to your account. Do a quick search on ebay and see that the cards are selling for sometimes even $100, or at least in that general range.

So, if you so chose not to use the app store card, you basically get a $100 rebate from Apple. Gonna factor that into your list?

Be smart consumers, see through marketing BS people.

Yes, be smart I agree. But also, don't listen to random dudes on the internet that think big ol' bad Apple is out to get you; especially when it is a difference of $20-$100 we are talking about :rolleyes:

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 12:57 PM
Really? Are you SO TIREDOMG?!

Calm down man, your general attitude on this board is the tiring thing.

Actually, a LOT of people will use it. Just because you probably pirate all your stuff, doesn't mean that everyone else does.

This is a BACK TO SCHOOL promo. For students. A lot of students need different types of software depending on the classes they are taking.

It isn't some SMOKE AND MIRRORS CONSPIRACY OMG.




Wow, overreact much? I mean, I know we are talking about the bottom line cheapest here, but again, the card does indeed have value to a lot of people. You are acting like the bonus that Apple graciously threw in is some kind of scam.



Nope, the card is an actual tangible card that is not linked to your account. Do a quick search on ebay and see that the cards are selling for sometimes even $100, or at least in that general range.

So, if you so chose not to use the app store card, you basically get a $100 rebate from Apple. Gonna factor that into your list?



Yes, be smart I agree. But also, don't listen to random dudes on the internet that think big ol' bad Apple is out to get you; especially when it is a difference of $20-$100 we are talking about :rolleyes:

Your response was so defensive. If you want the Back 2 School Promo, go for it. Apparently you take anyone disagreeing with you as confrontational.

If you don't like reading what I have to say, click BLOCK, and you'll never have to read it.... but giving a quick glance at your post history, I see you've contributed very little information to this forum. Good luck to you.

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 01:01 PM
You're saving, but not really.

$1199 MBA on Apple with EDU equals $1149 + 7% tax = $1229.43 + $100 Giftcard

$1199 MBA on Amazon = $1195

So technically you're getting $65 more through Apple.

All this applies to EDU Discount eligible people.

If you're not eligible for a discount go through Amazon.


Are you serious? $100 credit does not equal cash.

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 01:02 PM
Your response was so defensive. If you want the Back 2 School Promo, go for it. Apparently you take anyone disagreeing with you as confrontational.

If you don't like reading what I have to say, click BLOCK, and you'll never have to read it.... but giving a quick glance at your post history, I see you've contributed very little information to this forum. Good luck to you.

Awww can't actually debate the point at hand and have to make some skewed insult about my post history? I have contributed well more than you have.

It wasn't a defense. I couldn't care less if people are not getting their every last dollar saved. It was a reply to YOU and your borderline-troll posting.

You have done NOTHING but get into confrontations with people on this board. Hijacking many threads with your bickering one-off's. And you have the nerve to try and say something about my post history? As if you have any credibility yourself?

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:02 PM
Are you serious? $100 credit does not equal cash.

Can you spend it on a case? Can you spend it at BestBuy? How about Amazon? hehe. Not sure why people defend Apple so much... everyone is entitled to their opinion, if it's something you find a good deal, buy it through Apple, if not, don't.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:05 PM
Hijacking many threads with your bickering one-off's.

I didn't realize an Apple.com promotion discussion had anything to do with "Pre-order from Amazon" ... hmmm, I'm the one who hijacked the thread and took it off topic, right?

flight24
Jul 21, 2011, 01:05 PM
For me personally the Apple 100 app store credit is useless because I don't have an iphone. I would MUCH rather preferred the usual free ipod touch. Idk why apply stopped doing that this year.

But back to topic....I called amazon just know and rep told me he doesn't know when they will get the MBAs. It could be a week or maybe more. Vague answer. I told him about MacConnection's price which is 1249 and MacMall which is 1253, but the he said Amazon doesn't pricematch for computer/laptop products. He even suggested that Amazon price might even go up (which he was BSing IMO). I would actually buy it from Amazon right now even at the 1295 pricetag if I knew I could get it next week simply because of their great CS. But everything seems very vague rt now.

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 01:08 PM
Can you spend it on a case? Can you spend it at BestBuy? How about Amazon? hehe. Not sure why people defend Apple so much... everyone is entitled to their opinion, if it's something you find a good deal, buy it through Apple, if not, don't.

Nope but you can sell it on ebay or any other gift card trading site.

Same as your argument about getting the free iPod; "at least you can sell it".

Again, why the "defend apple" mantra. Why do you think they are trying to scam people or something?

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 01:08 PM
Really? Are you SO TIREDOMG?!

Calm down man, your general attitude on this board is the tiring thing.

Actually, a LOT of people will use it. You don't speak for the general public, and I am sure many people will use it. I know I have a few purchases lined up already myself.

Also, in case it was not clear, you can use it on the MAC APP STORE, THE APP STORE (iOS), ITUNES STORE OR IBOOKSTORE. Surely people could find some use for it, I know I could in a single day.

This is a BACK TO SCHOOL promo. For students. A lot of students need different types of software depending on the classes they are taking.

It isn't some SMOKE AND MIRRORS CONSPIRACY OMG.



If you are a full time student at a decently sized 4 year university, you should be getting a lot of software discounted/free, thus negating the need for the App store. Some cases can be made for itunes but again, it's not cash, you are tied up by it and if you sell it, you are very likely not going to get full value. Losing 10% on any asset is not a good sell, regardless of what it is. (in this case $10, plus the time you have to spend selling it).

Apple Edu discount is a good deal and paying sales tax helps your community, but it's still not CASH. And many people still treat it as such. That's the problem I have with some of the posters claiming it is as good as cash. It's not. (And for me I need at least 320kbps and already use CS5/Lightroom, products not offered by Apple (yet))

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:08 PM
But back to topic....I called amazon just know and rep told me he doesn't know when they will get the MBAs. It could be a week or maybe more. Vague answer. I told him about MacConnection's price which is 1249 and MacMall which is 1253, but the he said Amazon doesn't pricematch for computer/laptop products. He even suggested that Amazon price might even go up (which he was BSing IMO). I would actually buy it from Amazon right now even at the 1295 pricetag if I knew I could get it next week simply because of their great CS. But everything seems very vague rt now.

Place an order, then call them, they'll PM. But hey, I don't offer anything useful according to xtxtxtxtxtx ;-)

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 01:09 PM
Nope but you can sell it on ebay or any other gift card trading site.

Same as your argument about getting the free iPod; "at least you can sell it".

Again, why the "defend apple" mantra. Why do you think they are trying to scam people or something?

iPod can also be sold at double:eek: the cost of the gift card.

flight24
Jul 21, 2011, 01:09 PM
Are you serious? $100 credit does not equal cash.

I think that poster is correct.

1) not everyone has an iphone...that automatically reduces the 100 value
2) it's not even a 100 gift card to be used at the apple store. It's only for the app store, which many like myself have no use for.
3) even if it was a 100 gift card you could buy many of the product at online retailer like amazon for much cheaper

But still none the less if I had an iphone, I would getting the MBA right now from my local Apple store and not have deal w/ any extra hassle of wait time.

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 01:09 PM
I didn't realize an Apple.com promotion discussion had anything to do with "Pre-order from Amazon" ... hmmm, I'm the one who hijacked the thread and took it off topic, right?

I didn't mean this thread. You know who you are and what you do, play dumb if you want :)

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 01:10 PM
iPod can also be sold at double:eek: the cost of the gift card.

That isn't the point. Try to keep up.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:11 PM
I didn't mean this thread. You know who you are and what you do, play dumb if you want :)

It's usually not best to accuse someone of hijacking a thread in a thread you've hijacked. Not good etiquitte

flight24
Jul 21, 2011, 01:12 PM
Place an order, then call them, they'll PM. But hey, I don't offer anything useful according to xtxtxtxtxtx ;-)

So they pricematched your mba with MacConnections after your placed your order? I guess it's YMMV as for as getting pricematched...but I guess you can always cancel if they don't.

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 01:12 PM
Can you spend it on a case? Can you spend it at BestBuy? How about Amazon? hehe. Not sure why people defend Apple so much... everyone is entitled to their opinion, if it's something you find a good deal, buy it through Apple, if not, don't.

Can you read? I'm trying to help your case out and you say I'm "defend Apple". How is saying that $100 credit is not cash defending Apple?

Edit:
That isn't the point. Try to keep up.

I guess neither of you guys can read. My username is NOT getyup.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:13 PM
Can you read? I'm trying to help your case out and you say I'm "defend Apple". How is saying that $100 credit is not cash defending Apple?

Sorry I misread.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:15 PM
So they pricematched your mba with MacConnections after your placed your order? I guess it's YMMV as for as getting pricematched...but I guess you can always cancel if they don't.

No they mismatched the Apple Business Discount (my company gets that price). I am a high-volume customer at Amazon, so that gives me a little leverage when I call, but I think it's all about how you ask. If you tell them you really love Amazon (which most of us can honestly say), and that you'd be appreciative of anything they can do, let them know it's in-stock at Apple but you'd prefer to support Amazon, they'll usually match competitor discounts.

But if you come at them like xtxtxtxtxtx or a gimmie-pig, then they'll give u the "we don't price match" line in a second, and note the order\account. :-)

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 01:16 PM
It's usually not best to accuse someone of hijacking a thread in a thread you've hijacked. Not good etiquitte

I am just joining in a conversation with the people who have already hijacked it. But what I won't do is continue to be baited by a troll. You have my permission to carry on :)

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:17 PM
I am just joining in a conversation with the people who have already hijacked it. But what I won't do is continue to be baited by a troll. You have my permission to carry on :)

Officer, everyone else was looting so I just joined in and grabbed a TV for myself. That means I'm not a hypocrite when I speak out against looting, right?

xkmxkmxlmx
Jul 21, 2011, 01:19 PM
If you are a full time student at a decently sized 4 year university, you should be getting a lot of software discounted/free, thus negating the need for the App store. Some cases can be made for itunes but again, it's not cash, you are tied up by it and if you sell it, you are very likely not going to get full value. Losing 10% on any asset is not a good sell, regardless of what it is. (in this case $10, plus the time you have to spend selling it).

Apple Edu discount is a good deal and paying sales tax helps your community, but it's still not CASH. And many people still treat it as such. That's the problem I have with some of the posters claiming it is as good as cash. It's not. (And for me I need at least 320kbps and already use CS5/Lightroom, products not offered by Apple (yet))

But when the difference of selling that card comes out to be greater than any other price out there, than that negative 10% is still worth it though, no? So it is as good as cash. No one is literally saying it is the SAME as cash. Because it is not. But just as you will go and research and jump through hoops to get to the absolute bottom line price, what's a bit more leg work in the log run?

stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 01:20 PM
I am just joining in a conversation with the people who have already hijacked it. But what I won't do is continue to be baited by a troll. You have my permission to carry on :)


The classic "I'm superior" defense. Your posts are just as trolling in this thread.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:21 PM
The classic "I'm superior" defense. Your posts are just as trolling in this thread.

I didn't change the topic.

Someone isn't' trolling just because your opinion differs.

Bob Coxner
Jul 21, 2011, 01:23 PM
For me personally the Apple 100 app store credit is useless because I don't have an iphone. I would MUCH rather preferred the usual free ipod touch. Idk why apply stopped doing that this year.

But back to topic....I called amazon just know and rep told me he doesn't know when they will get the MBAs. It could be a week or maybe more. Vague answer. I told him about MacConnection's price which is 1249 and MacMall which is 1253, but the he said Amazon doesn't pricematch for computer/laptop products. He even suggested that Amazon price might even go up (which he was BSing IMO). I would actually buy it from Amazon right now even at the 1295 pricetag if I knew I could get it next week simply because of their great CS. But everything seems very vague rt now.

That rep is clueless. There's a link right on the MBA page where they want you to tell them about a lower price. And, Amazon often does price match computers.

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MC965LL-13-3-Inch-VERSION/dp/B005CWHZP4/ref=sr_ob_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311272456&sr=8-1

scroll down to the bottom of that page

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stevenpa
Jul 21, 2011, 01:30 PM
I didn't change the topic.

Someone isn't' trolling just because your opinion differs.

AGAIN man, how much effort does it take to read? This post was on your side and again you fail to see that.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 01:32 PM
AGAIN man, how much effort does it take to read? This post was on your side and again you fail to see that.

I wasn't accusing you, I was just adding comment to your statement. I'm just going to stop using the quote button because when I respond to your point, you think I'm confronting you. In a newspaper, when someone is quoted and then commentary added, it's not talking to the person who made the comment, it's commenting on the subject of the quote.

flight24
Jul 21, 2011, 01:34 PM
If you are a full time student at a decently sized 4 year university, you should be getting a lot of software discounted/free, thus negating the need for the App store. Some cases can be made for itunes but again, it's not cash, you are tied up by it and if you sell it, you are very likely not going to get full value. Losing 10% on any asset is not a good sell, regardless of what it is. (in this case $10, plus the time you have to spend selling it).

Apple Edu discount is a good deal and paying sales tax helps your community, but it's still not CASH. And many people still treat it as such. That's the problem I have with some of the posters claiming it is as good as cash. It's not. (And for me I need at least 320kbps and already use CS5/Lightroom, products not offered by Apple (yet))

I completely agree with you regarding this whole 100 "cash" topic.

JonathanK81
Jul 21, 2011, 01:58 PM
That rep is clueless. There's a link right on the MBA page where they want you to tell them about a lower price. And, Amazon often does price match computers.

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MC965LL-13-3-Inch-VERSION/dp/B005CWHZP4/ref=sr_ob_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311272456&sr=8-1

scroll down to the bottom of that page

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That's incorrect as well. Amazon does not price match unless it's TVs. Yes, they have a link for you to tell them a lower price, but that isn't regarding price matching for previously made orders. They want to be competitive for future orders. They want to know about someone else's lower price, so they can lower their prices for those who will be buying in the future. It's not for you to use after you already bought the item.

Taken directly from Amazon's pricing information page....

With the exception of TVs, Amazon.com doesn't price-match with other retailers (including those who sell their items on our website). We do, however, consistently work toward maintaining competitive prices on everything we carry.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_468502_guarantee?nodeId=468502#guarantee

Obviously, there will be some reps who will price-match for you, but that is not the policy. More the exception than the rule.

getyup
Jul 21, 2011, 02:02 PM
That's incorrect as well. Amazon does not price match unless it's TVs. Yes, they have a link for you to tell them a lower price, but that isn't regarding price matching for previously made orders. They want to be competitive for future orders.

Taken directly from Amazon's pricing information page....



http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_468502_guarantee?nodeId=468502#guarantee

Many of Amazon's policies are YMMV. Really just depends on who you get. They usually won't call it a price match, but often will refer to it as a customer goodwill adjustment or loyalty discount as not to set a precedent. But at the end of the day, they're a business and know customers have a choice, and if it's within their capabilities, they'll usually act within the best interest of the customer.

JonathanK81
Jul 21, 2011, 02:05 PM
Many of Amazon's policies are YMMV. Really just depends on who you get. They usually won't call it a price match, but often will refer to it as a customer goodwill adjustment or loyalty discount as not to set a precedent. But at the end of the day, they're a business and know customers have a choice, and if it's within their capabilities, they'll usually act within the best interest of the customer.

Oh of course, that's why I added the last line to my post. But my point being policy isn't to price-match. But that's not to say they won't do something. I've had it go both ways in my years of shopping with Amazon. Some will do something to even the price, others will not, so of course you're correct with the YMMV. I will say, lately I've noticed they're sticking more the "we do not price-match..." mores than in the past.

srxtr
Jul 21, 2011, 02:05 PM
You're saving, REALLY. So tired of people calling the $100 credit on the App Store a "savings" ... IF you use the app store and planned on spending $100 in the next year or so, yeah, call it a savings, but for most (see app store usage statistics), it's a smoke-and-mirrors offer that they'll only use because they get it, which means it's not a savings, it's just an add-on value.

Bottom line, If someone lives in CA and wants a stock 11" upper model:

APPLE (No Discount) - - $1199 + 105 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1322

EDU - $1149 + $101 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste fee + $10 2-3 day dleivery = $1268 ... then you get a bonus of $100 in software, but that's far from "money in pocket" for most that didn't plan to buy $100 in pocket.

BUSINESS - $1127 + 96 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1243

AMAZON - $1195 + $0 Tax + $0 CA eWaste + $0 2 day shipping = $1195

Sure seems like Amazon is the cheapest to me. It's like someone saying that it's a better deal for you to buy a car from Toyota of Oakland because even though their car is cheaper, they'll throw in a "undercoat protector, a $100 value" for free. Well if you're like most, you weren't planning on buying it anyhow, so the value is minimal since even if you wanted it done, you could have it done elsewhere for 75% off the "value" they state.

Most people are blinded by marketing... it's okay. When Apple was giving away free iPods it was a good deal because you were getting a tangible in-demand piece of hardware you could sell to recoup costs. With this, that's essentially squashed. This is a great deal, but ONLY if you planned on buying software and buying it from the inflated App Store prices anyhow.

Be smart consumers, see through marketing BS people.

This won't apply to all, but Discover has 5% cashback for Discover card users who shop at apple.com.

APPLE (No Discount) - - $1199 + 105 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1322

$1322 x 5% = $66
$1322 - $66 = $1256

Duke15
Jul 21, 2011, 02:17 PM
You're saving, REALLY. So tired of people calling the $100 credit on the App Store a "savings" ... IF you use the app store and planned on spending $100 in the next year or so, yeah, call it a savings, but for most (see app store usage statistics), it's a smoke-and-mirrors offer that they'll only use because they get it, which means it's not a savings, it's just an add-on value.

Bottom line, If someone lives in CA and wants a stock 11" upper model:

APPLE (No Discount) - - $1199 + 105 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1322

EDU - $1149 + $101 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste fee + $10 2-3 day dleivery = $1268 ... then you get a bonus of $100 in software, but that's far from "money in pocket" for most that didn't plan to buy $100 in pocket.

BUSINESS - $1127 + 96 CA Tax + $8 CA eWaste + $10 2-3 day delivery = $1243

AMAZON - $1195 + $0 Tax + $0 CA eWaste + $0 2 day shipping = $1195

Sure seems like Amazon is the cheapest to me. It's like someone saying that it's a better deal for you to buy a car from Toyota of Oakland because even though their car is cheaper, they'll throw in a "undercoat protector, a $100 value" for free. Well if you're like most, you weren't planning on buying it anyhow, so the value is minimal since even if you wanted it done, you could have it done elsewhere for 75% off the "value" they state.

Most people are blinded by marketing... it's okay. When Apple was giving away free iPods it was a good deal because you were getting a tangible in-demand piece of hardware you could sell to recoup costs. With this, that's essentially squashed. This is a great deal, but ONLY if you planned on buying software and buying it from the inflated App Store prices anyhow.

Be smart consumers, see through marketing BS people.

You will get charged tax when you go and pick it up. So its not the cheapest. Also you forgot Bestb Buy, they offer a 100$ gift card and possibly the 50$ off(not 100% about the latter)