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bp1000
Jul 23, 2011, 09:05 AM
If i'm honest i never really had an issue with my laptop until i saw the thread about what display do you have. It did bring back memories of my initial thoughts when seeing the screen. I thought it looked slightly lacking in contrast.

I calibrated it there and then, the basic calibration wasn't sufficient so i did an expert calibration and found each step to be out, i correct them as per the instruction and now i feel i have much better contrast.

Try it and see if you feel the same.

I dont understand people claiming the LG panel is inferior, it looks pretty good to me. Better after calibration, and it makes sense that if apple are using 2 slightly different panels their default calibration isn't going to spot on for both.


//update
Here is my calibration file : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23758534/Expert%20Calibrated%205.icc

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clyde2801
Jul 23, 2011, 09:09 AM
If i'm honest i never really had an issue with my laptop until i saw the thread about what display do you have. It did bring back memories of my initial thoughts when seeing the screen. I thought it looked slightly lacking in contrast.

I calibrated it there and then, the basic calibration wasn't sufficient so i did an expert calibration and found each step to be out, i correct them as per the instruction and now i feel i have much better contrast.

Try it and see if you feel the same.

I dont understand people claiming the LG panel is inferior, it looks pretty good to me. Better after calibration, and it makes sense that if apple are using 2 slightly different panels their default calibration isn't going to spot on for both.

Would you mind posting your results?

johnc22
Jul 23, 2011, 09:10 AM
What site/software did you use for calibration? I also have the LG panel.

bp1000
Jul 23, 2011, 09:35 AM
To calibrate just press alt+f2

Then switch to the colour tab, then click calibrate, follow the steps in expert mode, taking care with each step

I'm not sure how to post the calibration of each step in one image, it does give a summary screen after calibration but i can't return to that screen.

Here is my calibration file - you can load it using the instructions above and clicking open from the menu in the colour options.
updated: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23758534/Expert%20Calibrated%205.icc

But it is always best to complete the calibration yourself for your screen.

My results are a better temperature, less warm, more definition between greys and better contrast which is obvious just from the menu bars and the desktop image.

With 40 - 60% brightness which is my typical brightness i don't have viewing angle issues until the reflections affect the contrast.

OSMac
Jul 23, 2011, 10:07 AM
To calibrate just press alt+f2

Then switch to the colour tab, then click calibrate, follow the steps in expert mode, taking care with each step

I'm not sure how to post the calibration of each step in one image, it does give a summary screen after calibration but i can't return to that screen.

Here is my calibration file - you can load it using the instructions above and clicking open from the menu in the colour options.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cw6te74gmusy6y7

But it is always best to complete the calibration yourself for your screen.

My results are a better temperature, less warm, more definition between greys and better contrast which is obvious just from the menu bars and the desktop image.

With 40 - 60% brightness which is my typical brightness i don't have viewing angle issues until the reflections affect the contrast.


Are you able to see the full range of this test pattern
without reds and greens on the high end clipping?
(Scroll left and right as needed...)

http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285375/original

bp1000
Jul 23, 2011, 10:18 AM
Are you able to see the full range of this test pattern
without reds and greens on the high end clipping?
(Scroll left and right as needed...)

http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285375/original

Yes the farthest 2 blocks on the red and green channels are clipping

Although the colour reproduction and contrast is vastly improved with the custom calibration.

Do Samsung screens hold the definition in the red and green channels?

OSMac
Jul 23, 2011, 10:24 AM
I'd like to try your profile to compare,
I managed to open it but can't seem to add it to the list of profiles to select?

bp1000
Jul 23, 2011, 10:28 AM
I'd like to try your profile to compare,
I managed to open it but can't seem to add it to the list of profiles to select?

You should be able to get it imported by getting to the colour tab, press open profile, then in the menu see the colour sync utility appear, click file, open, browse to the file.

This should do it

OSMac
Jul 23, 2011, 10:44 AM
Got it running copied it to /Library/ColorSync/Displays directory.

Does provide more contrast indeed,
darks are deeper, but 2.2 gamma seems off compared to the original icc?
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/94930126/original

My clipping is 4 bars red, 3 green.

Think I'll make a trip to the Apple store and try the patterns on some of the demo models hopefully one is a Samsung.

Just love the i5 13" hate to have to exchange it trying to find a Samsung display, but the display is important to me.

johnc22
Jul 23, 2011, 10:51 AM
Because the contrast varies wildly based on the angle of the screen I opened it as wide as possible (where the contrast is the best out of the box, IMO) to do the calibration.

I only touched the left-hand sliders as I felt like my eyes kept tricking me on true grey - I probably need a grey card or something to be sure what I'm doing.

My end result looks a little cool (blue-ish) so I may give it another go.

It does seem to improve overall contrast.

bp1000
Jul 23, 2011, 11:01 AM
Because the contrast varies wildly based on the angle of the screen I opened it as wide as possible (where the contrast is the best out of the box, IMO) to do the calibration.

I only touched the left-hand sliders as I felt like my eyes kept tricking me on true grey - I probably need a grey card or something to be sure what I'm doing.

My end result looks a little cool (blue-ish) so I may give it another go.

It does seem to improve overall contrast.

The default colour temperature is very warm and has an almost brownish cast.

So after calibration it can look a bit cool in colour but keep playing, it took 2 goes to tweak fully for me too.

ghsNick
Jul 23, 2011, 05:17 PM
I downloaded what you posted for calibration...but I can't use it (I saw what the other kid posted but couldn't use it)...how do I import it so I can try it?

sjshaw
Jul 23, 2011, 07:13 PM
Thanks for this. I loaded your calibration file and the "coolness" was startling, but would be nice with a bit of tweaking, I believe.

h00ligan
Jul 23, 2011, 08:50 PM
If you think that made a difference, and you are obsessive, try supercal.

http://www.bergdesign.com/supercal/

baxtr
Jul 23, 2011, 09:33 PM
Give this one a try, I spent some time trying to get it just right.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12013/LG%20Calibrated.icc

theSeb
Jul 23, 2011, 09:43 PM
Got it running copied it to /Library/ColorSync/Displays directory.

Does provide more contrast indeed,
darks are deeper, but 2.2 gamma seems off compared to the original icc?
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/94930126/original

My clipping is 4 bars red, 3 green.

Think I'll make a trip to the Apple store and try the patterns on some of the demo models hopefully one is a Samsung.

Just love the i5 13" hate to have to exchange it trying to find a Samsung display, but the display is important to me.To check what display model it is type the following in terminal

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

LT = samsung
LP = LG

baxtr
Jul 25, 2011, 05:57 PM
I ended up getting really good results with supercal on my Macbook Air 2011 13" with the LG display, let me know what you think. Enjoy.

http://db.tt/rWs0sny

eba
Jul 25, 2011, 07:42 PM
I ended up getting really good results with supercal on my Macbook Air 2011 13" with the LG display, let me know what you think. Enjoy.

http://db.tt/rWs0sny

I like it. And I have a Samsung panel.

baxtr
Jul 25, 2011, 08:05 PM
I'm surprised it looks good with the Samsung display. It really works well with the LG. If you have the Samsung, I recommend using Supercal to make a new profile for your Samsung.

justywusty
Jul 25, 2011, 08:50 PM
I ended up getting really good results with supercal on my Macbook Air 2011 13" with the LG display, let me know what you think. Enjoy.

http://db.tt/rWs0sny

waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too blue/cold.

this one i found on an old thread for the exact same display in the new airs with LG. it's pretty much bang on according to my eyes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc

bp1000
Jul 25, 2011, 08:56 PM
Please download and run the supercal tool, it is easily better then the built in calibration.

Do the full test too.

PaulWog
Jul 25, 2011, 10:25 PM
Please download and run the supercal tool, it is easily better then the built in calibration.

Do the full test too.

I found running through the free version I ended up getting different results... but not really better results.

I find turning my contrast up via the "Universal Access" in system preferences (just a smudge up) gives better color but it's artificial.

I wish there were a way to maintain the colour accuracy but give some more saturation/depth.

shawnmac
Jul 25, 2011, 10:51 PM
When trying to move these .icc files into /library/ColorSync/Profiles/Displays it prompts for the user password saying that Finder wants to make changes. Is this normal? Seems like it would be, but I'm relatively new to the mac world so I wanted to make sure since these .icc files are being downloaded from the internet and it seems like they are being pasted outside of the user account so want to make sure they are safe.

thanks

justywusty
Jul 25, 2011, 11:00 PM
When trying to move these .icc files into /library/ColorSync/Profiles/Displays it prompts for the user password saying that Finder wants to make changes. Is this normal? Seems like it would be, but I'm relatively new to the mac world so I wanted to make sure since these .icc files are being downloaded from the internet and it seems like they are being pasted outside of the user account so want to make sure they are safe.

thanks

yes...because you're not supposed to be poking in that folder if you're a typical user. it's just warning you.

dibara2003
Jul 25, 2011, 11:01 PM
waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too blue/cold.

this one i found on an old thread for the exact same display in the new airs with LG. it's pretty much bang on according to my eyes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc

Just used this one. Out of all the profiles on this page, the one linked above works the best for me.

shawnmac
Jul 25, 2011, 11:06 PM
yes...because you're not supposed to be poking in that folder if you're a typical user. it's just warning you.

Thanks, so there is no concern importing these files into the library folder? Just wanted to be sure .icc can't contain anything malicious. I'm coming from the Windows world where you always have to be concerned, heh.

justywusty
Jul 25, 2011, 11:10 PM
Thanks, so there is no concern importing these files into the library folder? Just wanted to be sure .icc can't contain anything malicious. I'm coming from the Windows world where you always have to be concerned, heh.

pretty positive it's ok. haven't had a virus on my mac yet...and i've had it for almost 3 years (my iMac).

shawnmac
Jul 25, 2011, 11:45 PM
pretty positive it's ok. haven't had a virus on my mac yet...and i've had it for almost 3 years (my iMac).

Thanks. Anyone know for sure it's okay to install things in that folder and if it's safe to download .icc files from the internet? Being paranoid with the new mac, heh.

rds
Jul 26, 2011, 05:56 AM
Thanks. Anyone know for sure it's okay to install things in that folder and if it's safe to download .icc files from the internet? Being paranoid with the new mac, heh.

It's perfectly normal to put things in the /Library folder, the difference is that it's also accessible to all other users as well, not just 'you.' If you only wanted to use the profile with your user account and don't want to keep faffing with authenticating, put it in your user (~/Library) folder.

As long as the file wants to run using ColorSync Utility – assuming you haven't changed the default application for .icc files – it should be safe to open.

scarred
Jul 26, 2011, 08:55 AM
Give this one a try, I spent some time trying to get it just right.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12013/LG%20Calibrated.icc

I started using this as my profile. At first, when doing a side by side comparison with the default, it seemed a bit too cool. But I started using it late last night, and I think I prefer it. The whites are a bit whiter, and the grey's are a bit more defined. Thanks.

timewarrior
Jul 26, 2011, 11:11 AM
waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too blue/cold.

this one i found on an old thread for the exact same display in the new airs with LG. it's pretty much bang on according to my eyes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc

This works awesome. I registered on MacRumors just to +1 this.

baxtr
Jul 26, 2011, 01:15 PM
waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too blue/cold.

this one i found on an old thread for the exact same display in the new airs with LG. it's pretty much bang on according to my eyes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc

That profile looks pretty good, however it is crushing some of the black detail in images. It is also a bit warm, but I do agree my other profile is too blue.. It would be nice if someone had a spyder calibration file.

shawnmac
Jul 26, 2011, 01:17 PM
This works awesome. I registered on MacRumors just to +1 this.

What's interesting is that most people agree this is great on the LG screens and if you look back where this file was posted, I believe it was from the 2010 MBA threads. If that's the case, that might shed some light on if the MBA's are using the same panels as last year. If so, it's even more interesting because the consensus last year was that the LG was the better panel.

This might really support the "its in your head' opinion.

Plx32
Jul 26, 2011, 01:27 PM
I have a LG screen on my 2010 MBA and I always found it was rather dull and lacked contrast and sharpness compared to the Samsung panel on my friend's 2010 MBA.

No calibration or trick to push contrast with Universal Access settings ever managed to match the quality of my friend's Samsung.

Have always been jealous of his screen ! :(

So my guess is that the panels are the same this year...

unagimiyagi
Jul 26, 2011, 02:11 PM
Hey for you LG owners,

Do you notice a slight inverter problem where the screen's shows some type of moire or faint dotted pattern on typically videos or certain backgrounds--like a green background?

http://www.cwtv.com/cw-video/

When I am move my eyes around the screen, I can see faint oscillations or something--hard to describe, but I keep noticing this.

I have another mba 2011 and it's got the Samsung display. It is not present.

Is this a defect in the LG screens, or should I get an exchange? As I said in a diff post, I didn't set about going to look for this. I just saw it one day and was like wait a minute.

badgerman
Jul 26, 2011, 02:50 PM
Got it running copied it to /Library/ColorSync/Displays directory.

how do you do this in lion, i can't see colorsync in library??

shawnmac
Jul 26, 2011, 03:00 PM
how do you do this in lion, i can't see colorsync in library??

I believe it's missing PROFILES in there. On my Lion install (factory image) it has Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Display

alpinadvl
Jul 26, 2011, 07:40 PM
Thought I would post my color profile here..... please comment on how this profile looks to you.

(I did it via the Apple Color Calibration.... I also tried SuperCal... but did not like the results)

Kafka
Jul 26, 2011, 07:58 PM
waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too blue/cold.

this one i found on an old thread for the exact same display in the new airs with LG. it's pretty much bang on according to my eyes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc

Excellent, I'm keeping it just in case, but for me this one is even better:
http://db.tt/T1n0DBf

Got it yesterday somewhere on this forum.

Kafka
Jul 26, 2011, 08:00 PM
how do you do this in lion, i can't see colorsync in library??

It will be created after you go for the first time through the calibration process.

CapnJackGig
Jul 26, 2011, 08:55 PM
You should be able to get it imported by getting to the colour tab, press open profile, then in the menu see the colour sync utility appear, click file, open, browse to the file.

This should do it

EDIT- figured out my issue. Thanks for the profiles.

kpdillon
Jul 26, 2011, 09:36 PM
EDIT- figured out my issue. Thanks for the profiles.

What was it, I am having trouble getting this to work.

shawnmac
Jul 27, 2011, 08:09 PM
Excellent, I'm keeping it just in case, but for me this one is even better:
http://db.tt/T1n0DBf

Got it yesterday somewhere on this forum.

Thanks. Any idea where it came from? Haven't seen that one posted anywhere else except your post in another thread. Just trying to make sure its safe. Thx.

Kafka
Jul 27, 2011, 08:36 PM
Thanks. Any idea where it came from? Haven't seen that one posted anywhere else except your post in another thread. Just trying to make sure its safe. Thx.

Can't remember since I downloaded 3 or 5 at the same time, but it should not be too far down in this here MBA forum. Maybe even excavated by someone from one of the similar threads that appeared with the 2010 MBA, where the consensus was that the LG panel was better btw...

Anyway sorry if my putting it in many posts looks suspicious, just wanting to share...

Zmmin3
Jul 27, 2011, 08:54 PM
To calibrate just press alt+f2

Then switch to the colour tab, then click calibrate, follow the steps in expert mode, taking care with each step

I'm not sure how to post the calibration of each step in one image, it does give a summary screen after calibration but i can't return to that screen.

Here is my calibration file - you can load it using the instructions above and clicking open from the menu in the colour options.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cw6te74gmusy6y7

But it is always best to complete the calibration yourself for your screen.

My results are a better temperature, less warm, more definition between greys and better contrast which is obvious just from the menu bars and the desktop image.

With 40 - 60% brightness which is my typical brightness i don't have viewing angle issues until the reflections affect the contrast.

I have put your profile in but it doesnt show up in the color selector
I put it in Library/ColorSync/Profiles. Whats wierd is the calibration I made with the computer do not show up in that folder but do show in the color selection *confused*

Kafka
Jul 27, 2011, 08:58 PM
I have put your profile in but it doesnt show up in the color selector
I put it in Library/ColorSync/Profiles. Whats wierd is the calibration I made with the computer do not show up in that folder but do show in the color selection *confused*

There is a library folder in each "user" folder, plus another at the root of your drive that affects all users.

Zmmin3
Jul 27, 2011, 09:26 PM
There is a library folder in each "user" folder, plus another at the root of your drive that affects all users.

okay I just realized the user library was hidden. I have since unhid it and do see my calibrations profile there. I have put your profile in there as well but it still does not show up. So I have it in every colorsync profle I can find but it still will not show up in the color tab

SpiffyChee
Jul 27, 2011, 09:28 PM
just posting to let you know that I have had great success after I calibrated my LG. SUCH a difference in a positive way. People shouldn't complain about the LG. After calibration it is beautiful!

Kafka
Jul 27, 2011, 09:35 PM
okay I just realized the user library was hidden. I have since unhid it and do see my calibrations profile there. I have put your profile in there as well but it still does not show up. So I have it in every colorsync profle I can find but it still will not show up in the color tab

This is weird you must be doing something wrong. Have you closed and re-opened the settings window? (back then forward works too)

Kafka
Jul 27, 2011, 09:36 PM
just posting to let you know that I have had great success after I calibrated my LG. SUCH a difference in a positive way. People shouldn't complain about the LG. After calibration it is beautiful!

Glad it worked out for you. Mind posting a link to your color file?

shawnmac
Jul 27, 2011, 09:40 PM
okay I just realized the user library was hidden. I have since unhid it and do see my calibrations profile there. I have put your profile in there as well but it still does not show up. So I have it in every colorsync profle I can find but it still will not show up in the color tab

The last part of that should be DISPLAYS. Are you putting it there?

/LIBRARY/ColorSync/Profiles/Display

I'm guessing if your just dropping it into Profiles as you stated a few posts up, that might be why?

The same would probably be true in the user library folder.

shawnmac
Jul 27, 2011, 09:42 PM
Can't remember since I downloaded 3 or 5 at the same time, but it should not be too far down in this here MBA forum. Maybe even excavated by someone from one of the similar threads that appeared with the 2010 MBA, where the consensus was that the LG panel was better btw...

Anyway sorry if my putting it in many posts looks suspicious, just wanting to share...

No need to apologize, I didn't mean to sound accusatory, sorry if I did. I was just curious because you said it came from the forum but a search didn't bring it up in any other posts. I only looked because I was curious how I missed it since I've been watching all the display threads, heh.

SpiffyChee
Jul 27, 2011, 09:54 PM
Glad it worked out for you. Mind posting a link to your color file?

Here is my profile. It has a slightly warm feel to it. (which I prefer)
http://cl.ly/0E2W302t340c2c0d2F2L

Thats the first time I used cloud, so let me know if it didn't work.

Kafka
Jul 27, 2011, 10:37 PM
Here is my profile. It has a slightly warm feel to it. (which I prefer)
http://cl.ly/0E2W302t340c2c0d2F2L

Thats the first time I used cloud, so let me know if it didn't work.

It worked alright. However the one I posted earlier works better for my screen...

rds
Jul 27, 2011, 10:48 PM
The last part of that should be DISPLAYS. Are you putting it there?

/LIBRARY/ColorSync/Profiles/Display

I'm guessing if your just dropping it into Profiles as you stated a few posts up, that might be why?

The same would probably be true in the user library folder.

No it's not. ~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles is the right folder.

rds
Jul 27, 2011, 10:49 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1039142&page=5

Try the top one.

bacan1
Jul 27, 2011, 11:08 PM
Could someone please post the default calibration? There doesn't seem to be a setting to revert to factory default and I'd don't think I saved it before I started tinkering with this!

Taylormade2
Jul 27, 2011, 11:25 PM
Wow...SuperCal made a huge difference. Everything seemed washed out just out of the box. I used the ColorSync built into OS X right away but it didn't make an improvement. SuperCal brought out the proper colors and now I couldn't be happier with the screen. I'll probably buy register SuperCal to have the other values put in the profile.

Chopstick217
Jul 28, 2011, 12:47 AM
Wow...SuperCal made a huge difference. Everything seemed washed out just out of the box. I used the ColorSync built into OS X right away but it didn't make an improvement. SuperCal brought out the proper colors and now I couldn't be happier with the screen. I'll probably buy register SuperCal to have the other values put in the profile.

I bought Supercal and used it... I was truly amazed by the results. The contrast, black levels, etc are so much better after calibration!:)

shawnmac
Jul 28, 2011, 01:53 AM
No it's not. ~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles is the right folder.

I apologize. It does seem to work if dropped one folder deeper into "DISPLAY" as well.

baxtr
Jul 28, 2011, 08:49 AM
I bought Supercal and used it... I was truly amazed by the results. The contrast, black levels, etc are so much better after calibration!:)

Can you post your supercal profile for download? Thanks.

rds
Jul 28, 2011, 09:15 AM
Wow...SuperCal made a huge difference. Everything seemed washed out just out of the box. I used the ColorSync built into OS X right away but it didn't make an improvement. SuperCal brought out the proper colors and now I couldn't be happier with the screen. I'll probably buy register SuperCal to have the other values put in the profile.

I tried SuperCal but the trial profile gave a very blue cast. What was your experience of the trial profile?

technopimp
Jul 28, 2011, 09:33 AM
My eyes must be terrible...I tried the Apple calibrate thing, but I can't tell the difference in any of the subtle grays in the very first screen (plus I'm confused on what "background" it even wants me to use). I tried a few of the profiles here but every one of them made everything extremely blue. I think I'll stick with the default since obviously I don't know any better. :)

unagimiyagi
Jul 28, 2011, 09:44 AM
I tried SuperCal but the trial profile gave a very blue cast. What was your experience of the trial profile?

Agree. Every calibration I've tried gives me a blue case. A very blue one, and it looks unnatural to me. Do my eyes need to be retrained? It's fine, I have never noticed a true difference with calibration; it just seems similar to adjusting the hue,saturation,like you would in a TV. Not better, not worse, just personal preference. It never made a Samsung white as true as an LG white. Nor the contrast ratio of the LG be the same as a Samsung. I thought that there would be some healing properties involved using calibration. It seems to just put a bandaid over the situation rather than a true cure.

rds
Jul 28, 2011, 09:47 AM
My eyes must be terrible...I tried the Apple calibrate thing, but I can't tell the difference in any of the subtle grays in the very first screen (plus I'm confused on what "background" it even wants me to use). I tried a few of the profiles here but every one of them made everything extremely blue. I think I'll stick with the default since obviously I don't know any better. :)

It should be easier if you have poor eyesight ;) The best way to calibrate using Display Calibrator Assistant is to squint (or move backwards) and move the sliders until it looks like one solid block. It's a bit more tricky with these displays as any slight movement will alter the effect so it's important to look at it using your typical viewing angle.

dighn
Jul 28, 2011, 11:01 AM
Excellent, I'm keeping it just in case, but for me this one is even better:
http://db.tt/T1n0DBf

Got it yesterday somewhere on this forum.

Looks very good to me. Thanks!

taeclee99
Jul 28, 2011, 09:33 PM
Excellent, I'm keeping it just in case, but for me this one is even better:
http://db.tt/T1n0DBf

Got it yesterday somewhere on this forum.

This profile rocks! Finally I can read text on this mba without feeling like my retinas were going to burn out.

I was on the verge of returning this mba for another one with a samsung screen. Now I don't have too!

Zmmin3
Jul 28, 2011, 10:22 PM
This is weird you must be doing something wrong. Have you closed and re-opened the settings window? (back then forward works too)

Well I found what was happening. The file is showing up in my color tab
BUT under the name of COLOR LCD. It doesnt show the actual name of the file for some reason. My own calibrations show under the name I give them but everyone elses I have added just show up as COLOR LCD. I have to hover over it to show its path to know which file it is. Anyone know why it does this?

CapnJackGig
Jul 28, 2011, 11:01 PM
When I do it on my own it comes out looking very much like the supercal profile people are passing around. I like the coolness of it over the more warm default.

Kafka
Jul 28, 2011, 11:25 PM
Well I found what was happening. The file is showing up in my color tab
BUT under the name of COLOR LCD. It doesnt show the actual name of the file for some reason. My own calibrations show under the name I give them but everyone elses I have added just show up as COLOR LCD. I have to hover over it to show its path to know which file it is. Anyone know why it does this?

Remember you had to give 2 names to your calibrations? I think this has something to do with it and I would like to know how to edit that as well :)

rds
Jul 29, 2011, 05:14 AM
Well I found what was happening. The file is showing up in my color tab
BUT under the name of COLOR LCD. It doesnt show the actual name of the file for some reason. My own calibrations show under the name I give them but everyone elses I have added just show up as COLOR LCD. I have to hover over it to show its path to know which file it is. Anyone know why it does this?

The description of the colour profile is stored in the file itself and doesn't correspond to it's file name.

To rename a colour profile, launch /Library/Scripts/ColorSync/Rename.app and select the relevant .icc file to rename. You can name it anything you want or tell it to use the current file name.

squaremon
Jul 29, 2011, 11:40 AM
i've try out all the profile but the red still appears clipping in 4 blocks and green clips in 3

:(
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285375/original

rds
Jul 29, 2011, 12:09 PM
i've try out all the profile but the red still appears clipping in 4 blocks and green clips in 3

:(
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285375/original

This is caused by Safari rendering the imagine using it's colour profile. Look at the image in a different browser and you shouldn't see any clipping :)

Gemütlichkeit
Jul 29, 2011, 01:23 PM
I used your method. You must live in a weird room because it's way too blue.

I'm in natural light right now and I had to revert back.

OSMac
Jul 29, 2011, 01:56 PM
The profiles that many feel look better are crushing the blacks ?

Should be able to see level 16 and even 8 faintly...
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285378/original


The default profile is actually not bad as it shows the entire range in Chrome,
with the gamma close to 2.2, but doing so it reveals the Air's screen low contrast.

Zmmin3
Jul 29, 2011, 02:48 PM
The description of the colour profile is stored in the file itself and doesn't correspond to it's file name.

To rename a colour profile, launch /Library/Scripts/ColorSync/Rename.app and select the relevant .icc file to rename. You can name it anything you want or tell it to use the current file name.

Thank You! that worked!

Chopstick217
Jul 30, 2011, 08:05 PM
This profile rocks! Finally I can read text on this mba without feeling like my retinas were going to burn out.

I was on the verge of returning this mba for another one with a samsung screen. Now I don't have too!

The profile is too dark, you lose a lot of detail :(

TheRealDamager
Jul 30, 2011, 08:23 PM
BTW - I've been using an I7 unit with the Samsung screen for about 10 days. It was having issues, so I swapped it today with a new I5. LG screen. I think it looks great - I really don't understand what all the fuss is about.

OSMac
Jul 30, 2011, 08:30 PM
BTW - I've been using an I7 unit with the Samsung screen for about 10 days. It was having issues, so I swapped it today with a new I5. LG screen. I think it looks great - I really don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Bet you wish you had the Samsung back :)

TheRealDamager
Jul 30, 2011, 08:40 PM
Not at all - seriously. I just don't see any difference that I can see. If I saw a difference, I wouldn't for a sec hesitate to exchange.

KPOM
Jul 30, 2011, 09:20 PM
For what it's worth, this was done using a Spyder3 Pro on an 11" LG screen. YMMV.

freeman727
Jul 30, 2011, 09:59 PM
Of all the profiles provided on this thread, the MBA139CDF.icc file works the best on my 11" MBA! Thanks!!! When I go back to the default profile, I wonder why Apple shipped it that way.

taeclee99
Jul 30, 2011, 10:12 PM
Of all the profiles provided on this thread, the MBA139CDF.icc file works the best on my 11" MBA! Thanks!!! When I go back to the default profile, I wonder why Apple shipped it that way.

I agree that this is the best profile so far. The default profile does suck real bad.
Almost made me return this mba for a new one.

OSMac
Jul 30, 2011, 10:19 PM
Guys that MBA139CDF profile seems dark, it loses all shadow detail to black on my air.

Just look at this scale you should see steps from at least 8-16 up?
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285378

I agree it makes the dock icons etc., look better but that is only because it's crushing the blacks on a low contrast display.

The default profile shows all gradients and is close to gamma 2.2, it's a good profile it just shows the weakness of the Air display.

freeman727
Jul 30, 2011, 10:37 PM
Guys that MBA139CDF profile seems dark, it will lose all shadow detail to black.

Just look at this scale you should see steps from at least 8-16 up?
http://www.pbase.com/jackcnd/image/75285378

I agree it makes the dock icons etc., look better but that is only because it's crushing the blacks on a low contrast display.

The default profile shows all gradients and is close to gamma 2.2, it's a good profile it just shows the weakness of the Air display.

With MBA139CDF I can see 16 and up. But 8 and 16 are indistinguishable. Is that normal?

OSMac
Jul 30, 2011, 10:49 PM
That's fine, those working with photos would want to see 8 as well,
But i'd be happy with 16 if it improved the mid range contrast.

For some reason on my Air that profile blends all up to almost 32!

Under the image is a link to the original full size image you may want to see if that changes anything.

scarred
Jul 30, 2011, 11:03 PM
I agree that this is the best profile so far. The default profile does suck real bad.
Almost made me return this mba for a new one.

Maybe you got a dud... Or maybe your eyes are different then mine... or maybe you are sitting in a different position then I am.

I've tried all these profiles. I've tried doing my own calibration, but it always turns out that the default looks the best. I can see all the gradients of grey perfectly. Red is the worst offender with 4 bars melded together. Green is 2, and blue is fine.

Gemütlichkeit
Jul 30, 2011, 11:17 PM
I've tried all these profiles. I've tried doing my own calibration, but it always turns out that the default looks the best. I can see all the gradients of grey perfectly. Red is the worst offender with 4 bars melded together. Green is 2, and blue is fine.

This is basically how I feel. I guess everyone is different.

freeman727
Jul 30, 2011, 11:19 PM
Maybe you got a dud... Or maybe your eyes are different then mine... or maybe you are sitting in a different position then I am.

I've tried all these profiles. I've tried doing my own calibration, but it always turns out that the default looks the best. I can see all the gradients of grey perfectly. Red is the worst offender with 4 bars melded together. Green is 2, and blue is fine.

Is your screen an LG?

johnc22
Jul 31, 2011, 08:48 AM
Maybe you got a dud... Or maybe your eyes are different then mine... or maybe you are sitting in a different position then I am.

I've tried all these profiles. I've tried doing my own calibration, but it always turns out that the default looks the best. I can see all the gradients of grey perfectly. Red is the worst offender with 4 bars melded together. Green is 2, and blue is fine.

The color test you are attempting is a Safari based problem. Save the image locally and view it directly on your MBA and youl'll see that all colors are visible. Alternatively use a different browser.

andmm
Jul 31, 2011, 03:03 PM
The description of the colour profile is stored in the file itself and doesn't correspond to it's file name.

To rename a colour profile, launch /Library/Scripts/ColorSync/Rename.app and select the relevant .icc file to rename. You can name it anything you want or tell it to use the current file name.

New on Mac. How do I get to that folder?:confused:

Zmmin3
Jul 31, 2011, 03:35 PM
The color test you are attempting is a Safari based problem. Save the image locally and view it directly on your MBA and youl'll see that all colors are visible. Alternatively use a different browser.

It didnt make any difference when I did that. The results are the same, that one profile still crushes the very low end blacks.

For whats it worth I did 3 diff type of calibrations. I did one using the apple calibration, then used the supercal and then used my Spyder 3 Pro.

I ended up using the apple calibration profile. It looks the best and does not blow out any of the colors. The two others ended up blowing out the high end greens and reds.

I might do another one with the Spider 3 using a diff brightness starting point.

Zmmin3
Jul 31, 2011, 03:42 PM
New on Mac. How do I get to that folder?:confused:

The path to that folder is listed there:

/Library/Scripts/ColorSync/Rename.app

1) Go into Finder
2) Choose Columns view (this will help you see your path)
3) Go into Macintosh HD
4) Choose Library
5) From the drop down choose Scripts Folder
6) Choose ColorSync
The rename app is in there

GaresTaylan
Jul 31, 2011, 04:07 PM
Of all the profiles provided on this thread, the MBA139CDF.icc file works the best on my 11" MBA! Thanks!!! When I go back to the default profile, I wonder why Apple shipped it that way.

+1 - Just set this and it made a nice difference.

andmm
Jul 31, 2011, 08:13 PM
The path to that folder is listed there:

/Library/Scripts/ColorSync/Rename.app

1) Go into Finder
2) Choose Columns view (this will help you see your path)
3) Go into Macintosh HD
4) Choose Library
5) From the drop down choose Scripts Folder
6) Choose ColorSync
The rename app is in there

Thank you. I found the folder.

TheRealDamager
Jul 31, 2011, 08:47 PM
Another big thumbs up for SuperCal - screen looks great!

KPOM
Jul 31, 2011, 10:10 PM
The path to that folder is listed there:

/Library/Scripts/ColorSync/Rename.app

1) Go into Finder
2) Choose Columns view (this will help you see your path)
3) Go into Macintosh HD
4) Choose Library
5) From the drop down choose Scripts Folder
6) Choose ColorSync
The rename app is in there

In Lion it's slightly different since the OS isolates the Library to prevent accidental deletion. Click on the Finder icon in the Dock, hold down the option key, and click on the Go menu. Select Library and it will open up.

bp1000
Aug 1, 2011, 07:28 AM
Since starting this thread i have tried each profile posted and still find some have a yellow/sepia cast to them.

Our screens could differ but here is my profile which was created under 50% brightness.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23758534/Expert%20Calibrated%205.icc

All things were altered, contrast, luminosity and colour temperature. It should give accurate contrast and colour which is very important for my digital photography and it removes the yellow cast.

Some profiles posted are boosting contrast and colour more than natural, this should give a neutral response when the screen is roughly at 50% brightness.

trag22
Aug 1, 2011, 08:20 AM
To calibrate just press alt+f2

Then switch to the colour tab, then click calibrate, follow the steps in expert mode, taking care with each step

I'm not sure how to post the calibration of each step in one image, it does give a summary screen after calibration but i can't return to that screen.

Here is my calibration file - you can load it using the instructions above and clicking open from the menu in the colour options.
updated: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23758534/Expert%20Calibrated%205.icc

But it is always best to complete the calibration yourself for your screen.

My results are a better temperature, less warm, more definition between greys and better contrast which is obvious just from the menu bars and the desktop image.

With 40 - 60% brightness which is my typical brightness i don't have viewing angle issues until the reflections affect the contrast.

Sorry I am new to mac, how to access alt key on the macbook air. Thanks.

KPOM
Aug 1, 2011, 08:28 AM
Sorry I am new to mac, how to access alt key on the macbook air. Thanks.

It's the Option key.

trag22
Aug 1, 2011, 09:49 AM
It's the Option key.

Thanks for the info.

rds
Aug 1, 2011, 10:02 AM
No one panel is the same. In particular, if the profile isn't displayed above the dividing line, it was not created for your specific 'model.' You can find out your model by opening the default Color LCD profile in ColorSync and scrolling down to mmod. For example, a model hex of 00009CDF means finding profiles for 9CDF. Obviously, a profile created for your display model doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be appropriate for your panel.

freeman727
Aug 1, 2011, 11:10 AM
No one panel is the same. In particular, if the profile isn't displayed above the dividing line, it was not created for your specific 'model.' You can find out your model by opening the default Color LCD profile in ColorSync and scrolling down to mmod. For example, a model hex of 00009CDF means finding profiles for 9CDF. Obviously, a profile created for your display model doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be appropriate for your panel.

Also, there is variation within the same screen model. Manufacturers have built in tolerance. So calibration for one person may not be absolutely perfect for another person. That being said, I found one on this thread that is great for my 11.6" LG screen. Thanks Kafka for your hard work! Great eye!!

justywusty
Aug 1, 2011, 11:24 AM
Since starting this thread i have tried each profile posted and still find some have a yellow/sepia cast to them.

Our screens could differ but here is my profile which was created under 50% brightness.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23758534/Expert%20Calibrated%205.icc

All things were altered, contrast, luminosity and colour temperature. It should give accurate contrast and colour which is very important for my digital photography and it removes the yellow cast.

Some profiles posted are boosting contrast and colour more than natural, this should give a neutral response when the screen is roughly at 50% brightness.

this one looks like it could work great...a little on the cool side, but it's probably only noticeable because the one i was using before was warm so i'm sure i'll get used to it. we'll see how it goes. i am able to see all levels of grays which is good.

Kafka
Aug 1, 2011, 11:42 AM
Also, there is variation within the same screen model. Manufacturers have built in tolerance. So calibration for one person may not be absolutely perfect for another person. That being said, I found one on this thread that is great for my 11.6" LG screen. Thanks Kafka for your hard work! Great eye!!

Wow wow, that's not my work I took it from this forum :)
I'm actually unable to do the calibration thing myself properly, my results are always horrible.

By the way, someone said that the profile I posted eats blacks and it's very true, I found this one that's a bit better in the dark areas, but the bright colors pop a bit less. Kind of an in-between that looks great too:
http://db.tt/eG110E2

EDIT: the original name was CustomMacRumors.icc

shawnmac
Aug 1, 2011, 12:51 PM
Since starting this thread i have tried each profile posted and still find some have a yellow/sepia cast to them.

Our screens could differ but here is my profile which was created under 50% brightness.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23758534/Expert%20Calibrated%205.icc

All things were altered, contrast, luminosity and colour temperature. It should give accurate contrast and colour which is very important for my digital photography and it removes the yellow cast.

Some profiles posted are boosting contrast and colour more than natural, this should give a neutral response when the screen is roughly at 50% brightness.

Does this look Blue-ish to anyone else? It's above the line in display options so it does appear OSX says it's made for this panel.

justywusty
Aug 1, 2011, 01:28 PM
Does this look Blue-ish to anyone else? It's above the line in display options so it does appear OSX says it's made for this panel.

it does...but i'm used to it now.

shawnmac
Aug 1, 2011, 01:33 PM
it does...but i'm used to it now.

Ya, so am I after looking at it for a few minutes. However, is it supposed too? I'm not sure what colors should look what ways now. For example, open up a window with the CustomMacRumors.icc file posted a little higher in this thread and then compare it to this profile. This profile shows windows that are blue where others show the same window grey. What color should it be?

Bob Coxner
Aug 1, 2011, 02:21 PM
Ya, so am I after looking at it for a few minutes. However, is it supposed too? I'm not sure what colors should look what ways now. For example, open up a window with the CustomMacRumors.icc file posted a little higher in this thread and then compare it to this profile. This profile shows windows that are blue where others show the same window grey. What color should it be?

Here's a Pantone color chart that may be helpful

http://www.loyaltyprint.com.au/Colour%20Chart.htm

shawnmac
Aug 1, 2011, 02:31 PM
Here's a Pantone color chart that may be helpful

http://www.loyaltyprint.com.au/Colour%20Chart.htm

Thanks. Without another computer/screen to compare, how would you use this chart to make sure colors look accurate?

bp1000
Aug 1, 2011, 02:53 PM
My profile will look a little cool when compared directly after the default which has a yellow cast.

The white point in the default profile is way off. The one i posted aims to identify this problem and all shades of grey should be accurate too. Skin tones should appear correct too.

It should not longer appear cool after some use, you will find the roles reversed when you go back to the default profile after a day, it will look way too warm and yellow.

shawnmac
Aug 1, 2011, 02:56 PM
The white point in the default profile is way off. The one i posted aims to identify this problem and all shades of grey should be accurate too. Skin tones should appear correct too.



What you say about the white point, could that be a reason for what I'm talking about in this thread? Please see it when you get a chance. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1203090

bp1000
Aug 1, 2011, 03:04 PM
What you say about the white point, could that be a reason for what I'm talking about in this thread? Please see it when you get a chance. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1203090

I believe a correctly calibrated white point does help when reading text. Simply because black text on a white background gives a high contrast and high contrast can lead to better perceived sharpness, i.e. letters are more defined and easier to read. I posted in your other thread about it. I believe the correct colour profile and brightness level will make a big difference. Don't run your brightness too low or too high, perhaps 50% for a good even ambient lighting, more for sunlight etc and even only 2 - 3 clicks from left when in dark rooms.

Bob Coxner
Aug 1, 2011, 03:10 PM
Thanks. Without another computer/screen to compare, how would you use this chart to make sure colors look accurate?

Do you have a good color printer? You could print out the chart. You can also find free hard copies at paint stores and art supply stores.

shawnmac
Aug 1, 2011, 03:28 PM
Do you have a good color printer? You could print out the chart. You can also find free hard copies at paint stores and art supply stores.

Awesome, thanks.

KPOM
Aug 1, 2011, 03:33 PM
Do you have a good color printer? You could print out the chart. You can also find free hard copies at paint stores and art supply stores.

Of course, if your printer isn't properly calibrated, that won't work either. :)

OSMac
Aug 1, 2011, 05:46 PM
Anandtech updated his Air review... LG panel has the best contrast :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4554/a...-review-update

dland2
Aug 1, 2011, 05:46 PM
I am new to mac and have no idea how to add a profile to calibrate the LG screen. I want to use this: MBA139CDF.icc. Can somebody please tell me how to do this in the simplest way possible? Thank you for your help =)

dland2
Aug 1, 2011, 05:56 PM
Also, does anyone know the default Macbook Air 2011 13" Color LCD profile? I may have erased it.

freeman727
Aug 1, 2011, 08:44 PM
I am new to mac and have no idea how to add a profile to calibrate the LG screen. I want to use this: MBA139CDF.icc. Can somebody please tell me how to do this in the simplest way possible? Thank you for your help =)

Please read. It has been explained multiple times in this thread.

Pipper99
Aug 1, 2011, 09:56 PM
Anandtech updated his Air review... LG panel has the best contrast :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4554/a...-review-update

Also, from the Anandtech review, "Obviously these machines are expensive enough that I believe you should be happy with your purchase, but from my perspective the two panels are close enough that it's not worth losing sleep over."

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 01:50 AM
Yes the farthest 2 blocks on the red and green channels are clipping

Although the colour reproduction and contrast is vastly improved with the custom calibration.

Do Samsung screens hold the definition in the red and green channels?

How about the blue?

I am using a spyder 3

My blue channels are clipping, perhaps 6 (!) of the brightest blues, 4 green and 4 red.

Lg Phillips monitor

clyde2801
Aug 2, 2011, 03:06 AM
Used migration assistant to move over programs and files from an imac to the air. Noticed the samsung screen looked really washed out, crap! Went under display profiles, and saw that profiles for the auxiliary screens on my imac were there.

Now, I know I also did the same thing for my air with the LG screen.

What I'm wondering about is did migration assistant take the color LCD profile for my iMac and overwrite that of my Macbook Air? Going into the profile on my library folder, it showed the 'color lcd' profile with today's date.

So, for those complaining about your screen, out of curiosity, have any of you used migration assistant recently as well?

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 03:09 AM
For anyone interested, here is a hardware calibrated profile for the 13" LG Phillips display using the spyder 3.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Benchmarks%20and%20pictures/Macbook%20Air/MBA%20Monitor%208-2-11%202

Native white point used,

The gives a better color separation on the color ramps, but doesnt increase the range of visible colors.

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 06:51 AM
Interestingly, the color ramp looks perfectly fine in windows, both calibrated and uncalibrated.

The saturation pales in comparison to my ips monitors though =/

Something weird is going on here.

update:

I took the windows icc profile, loaded it into lion, and there's no improvement. the colors are still clipping!

update 2:

I was wrong. There IS A DIFFERENCE! What I did wrong was that lion has to be RESTARTED after changing the profile in order for the changes to the color to take effect!

In short, the windows ICC profile allows the entire colour ramp to be shown.

Link to the windows ICC profile:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Benchmarks%20and%20pictures/sRGB%20Color%20Space%20Profile.icm

penguintri
Aug 2, 2011, 07:35 AM
Interestingly, the color ramp looks perfectly fine in windows, both calibrated and uncalibrated.

The saturation pales in comparison to my ips monitors though =/

Something weird is going on here.

I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.

justywusty
Aug 2, 2011, 07:47 AM
For anyone interested, here is a hardware calibrated profile for the 13" LG Phillips display using the spyder 3.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Benchmarks%20and%20pictures/Macbook%20Air/MBA%20Monitor%208-2-11%202

Native white point used,

The gives a better color separation on the color ramps, but doesnt increase the range of visible colors.

This doesn't appear to be a profile file type...

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 07:49 AM
I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.

dont delude yourself. they are all TNs. (MB/MBP/MBA)

penguintri
Aug 2, 2011, 07:54 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.

dont delude yourself. they are all TNs. (MB/MBP/MBA)

Haha thats right. Got mixed up! Is it just lower quality displays in the air due to thiness then producing this lack of saturation?

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 08:08 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

Haha thats right. Got mixed up! Is it just lower quality displays in the air due to thiness then producing this lack of saturation?

I have no idea. They are surely of lower quality, but I don't know if its "due to thinness" of if apple is simply trying to cut on costs.

I think comparisons to the 2010 MBA is in order, but I don't have one at hand.

edit: anantech says the 13" samsung is of higher quality than the 2010 13"

KPOM
Aug 2, 2011, 08:08 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

Haha thats right. Got mixed up! Is it just lower quality displays in the air due to thiness then producing this lack of saturation?


The Pro has always had a higher quality screen than the Air.

realrudi
Aug 2, 2011, 08:23 AM
Just another hint: For adjusting the RGB Gamma Values without tools. Use that website.

It helped me to get the best out of my Dell 2209Wa (I changed the gamma values in the windows/nvidia graphics driver).

And I will use this site again, when my MBA 13" will ship on 11th August (out of stock till then)

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php

bp1000
Aug 2, 2011, 09:13 AM
Just another hint: For adjusting the RGB Gamma Values without tools. Use that website.

It helped me to get the best out of my Dell 2209Wa (I changed the gamma values in the windows/nvidia graphics driver).

And I will use this site again, when my MBA 13" will ship on 11th August (out of stock till then)

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php

Thanks for posting this

This verifies that the profile i posted in the first post of this thread, OP, has the correct gamma settings for the LG screen. Or at least for my screen.

If people want a correctly calibrated screen they should use this profile, providing there isn't a manufacturing variation across LG screens.

TheRealDamager
Aug 2, 2011, 09:18 AM
I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.

This is normal. I moved from a Pro to a 2010 MBA, and noticed the same thing.

penguintri
Aug 2, 2011, 10:31 AM
This is normal. I moved from a Pro to a 2010 MBA, and noticed the same thing.

Ah good to know. Been spending ages to trying to create a profile that enhances the colours without sacrificing another aspect of the image quality but keep going back to the default.

Its slightly annoying seeing the vivid colours on my pro. However, I easily prefer the muted colours than having to use the lower ppi macbook pro screen. Absolutely love the higher resolution air screen!

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 11:13 AM
Ah good to know. Been spending ages to trying to create a profile that enhances the colours without sacrificing another aspect of the image quality but keep going back to the default.

Its slightly annoying seeing the vivid colours on my pro. However, I easily prefer the muted colours than having to use the lower ppi macbook pro screen. Absolutely love the higher resolution air screen!

Indeed, low resolution is a deal breaker

I have some suspicions (wild guess) that the back light is to blame for the poor saturation. If the gamut of light the backlight produces is small, then the range of colors that the screen can display will suffer too

aCuria
Aug 2, 2011, 11:14 AM
This doesn't appear to be a profile file type...

It should work anyway.

wdunn
Aug 3, 2011, 07:57 PM
It should work anyway.

Just add .icc to the file name...looks pretty good.

aCuria
Aug 6, 2011, 08:14 AM
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color%20Profiles/6500k%20mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011

christophermdia
Aug 6, 2011, 08:47 AM
This MBA139CDF.icc file made a nice difference in my screen. Contrast is much better...

scarred
Aug 6, 2011, 09:20 AM
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color%20Profiles/6500k%20mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011

I like this profile. When full brightness, the contrast seems correct. It is also keeps the whites good at 50% brightness.

This leads me to my question...

If I'm doing something where colours matter (editing pictures, for example), should I be doing that at full brightness?

Lord Appleseed
Aug 6, 2011, 03:20 PM
For anyone interested, here is a hardware calibrated profile for the 13" LG Phillips display using the spyder 3.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Benchmarks%20and%20pictures/Macbook%20Air/MBA%20Monitor%208-2-11%202

Native white point used,

The gives a better color separation on the color ramps, but doesnt increase the range of visible colors.

I tried this one, its very good, and the only one that worked out for me.
However the colors a pretty strong. Could you slightly reduce the intensity? Because then it would be perfect.

Thanks

mcrs
Aug 6, 2011, 08:23 PM
Interestingly, the color ramp looks perfectly fine in windows, both calibrated and uncalibrated.



Just got my MBA 2011 recently and noticed that the display was just dull and lacked color compared to all the previous Windows notebooks and computers that I have owned.

I installed Windows using Bootcamp and the display and colors looks much better and alive compared to when booting into Mac, pretty much like my old Windows computers.

Is it just me or do others notice this as well?

I have the LG display and tried calibrating using SuperCal and it does look better I think then the default Color LCD profile.

Does anybody know if the 'sRGB IEC61966-2.1' color profile in the Mac is the same as the Windows 7 default color profile? I've changed it to that and it seems to look alot better than both the Mac default color profile and my calibrated SuperCal color profile.

freeman727
Aug 6, 2011, 09:01 PM
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color%20Profiles/6500k%20mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011

This icc file works great for my 11.6" LG screen. It is a good balance of color accuracy, contrast and detail. Thanks!

squaremon
Aug 7, 2011, 02:39 AM
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color%20Profiles/6500k%20mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011

i tried this profile. i quite like it. :D blue looks blue not like purple compare to stock color lcd profile.

justywusty
Aug 7, 2011, 10:05 AM
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color%20Profiles/6500k%20mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011


PERFECT! THANKS!

btw...it doesn't show any Apple Display Make information...is your display also 9CDF?

Confuzzzed
Aug 7, 2011, 10:18 AM
To check what display model it is type the following in terminal

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

LT = samsung
LP = LG

Apologies for being dim wittet, not used to Terminal so wanted to check as I was expecting two letter answer! If the thing that comes out begins with LT, the monitor is Samsung and LP it's LG? i.e. if you get LTH13....this means your monitor is Samsung. :confused: Thanks in advance

tekksan
Aug 7, 2011, 04:23 PM
I went to the Apple Store today because I was thinking about considering playing the lottery (I have an LG screen but with Samsung SSD) and I was hoping they had a floor 13" with a Samsung panel I could look at.

They had two floor model 13" MBAs and so I pushed them side by side and compared them and after looking at them for a while, I could not really tell the difference between the two. Neither are as good as my 2010 15" MBP but both are pretty good.

I did notice the Samsung didn't appear to display black as well as the LG. I'd say like 5% better and the Samsung looked a little bit better on the whites maybe, by like 5%.

Text on both was very similar and I couldn't tell that much difference between the non white/black colors. Overall, I liked the way the LG looked better to be honest. I took a few pictures with my phone (URL below) but I don't think they are very good (obviously with a phone you don't get super fantastic shots and plus the lighting might have been a bit off-I tried playing around with the HDR setting but I started to get weird looks so I just put the MBAs back and left.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66113998@N04/sets/72157627255172027/

I won't play guessing games with you-the one on the left is the LG. Again, the pics didn't come out as well as I'd hoped, but overall the panels are very very similar. Very difficult to to tell them apart when viewed side by side (at least to my eyes) but if I had to pick one that was better looking, I'd have to go with the LG. If you choose some of the calibrations found in this thread, I think you can make it look even better.

My $.02. YMMV

Snowbro
Aug 7, 2011, 05:15 PM
tekksan, thanks for posting...

They do kinda look similar...

Anyways, I used the built-in Mac calibration tool and seem to get nice results, slightly more on the blue-ish side (colder), which i prefer over the more yellow (warmer) default calibration.

mac jones
Aug 7, 2011, 05:58 PM
You have to do this, otherwise it's terrible.

Queen6
Aug 8, 2011, 08:23 AM
So far I have tried all the profile on this thread and the best is still my original factory icc file. I use the images from http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ and download to the Air to avoid Safari`s color processing. I have attached the file for those that want to have a look, and some of the Lagom test pages. When you see the test images displayed on a single page the viewing angle is very apparent, with significant changes of Black levels & White saturation when the angle is altered.

My 13 inch display is an 9CDF LG, I may have just got lucky and the calibration was done reasonalby well at the factory. The Air`s display does not offer the same color depth as my 4.1 MacBook Pro, all the same the display is reasonable for such a portable machine...

aCuria
Aug 8, 2011, 09:05 AM
So far I have tried all the profile on this thread and the best is still my original factory icc file. I use the images from http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ and download to the Air to avoid Safari`s color processing. I have attached the file for those that want to have a look, and some of the Lagom test pages.

My 13 inch display is an 9CDF LG, I may have just got lucky and the calibration was done well, what I do see is that the viewing angle of the new Air is somewhat critical to getting a good around balance...

What do you mean by best?

Queen6
Aug 8, 2011, 09:31 AM
What do you mean by best?

looks the best on my Air, all the profiles are a comprise the default on just seems a little more balanced for me, your 6500K resulted in colour clipping on my display and a reduction in White saturation/contrast, although Black levels were improved over stock.

aCuria
Aug 9, 2011, 12:49 AM
looks the best on my Air, all the profiles are a comprise the default on just seems a little more balanced for me, your 6500K resulted in colour clipping on my display and a reduction in White saturation/contrast, although Black levels were improved over stock.

ic. Color management is a complicated beast, and yes that profile does indeed cause clipping. My profiles are intended to produce "accurate" colors, and not "good looking" colors.

The issue is that the air is simply unable to display the entire srgb space, as it has a small gamut monitor. For example, if it can only display say red from 0 to 200, as opposed to 0-255, its internal LUT is simply doing a linear mapping of colors to have a better gradation. e.g. (0->0, 255->200)

the problem with such a mapping is that the colors end up being simply wrong! what the icc profile does is measure exactly what the "real" color being produced is, and force the monitor to display the real color.

This also means that the gradation gets killed. If the monitor can't display the color it ends up as a splotch :o

anyway just use whatever works for you. If you are not working on graphics creation, then it probably doesn't matter. For more information you could look here (not my webpage)

http://www.damiensymonds.com.au/art_smlgmt2.html

realrudi
Aug 9, 2011, 02:39 AM
Thx, aCuria.
Great website.

I made that with my Dell monitor and it looks like that.
I will redo it, as soon my MBA arrives.

http://www.abload.de/img/colorproofdell22090wakqko.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=colorproofdell22090wakqko.jpg)

Queen6
Aug 9, 2011, 04:51 AM
ic. Color management is a complicated beast, and yes that profile does indeed cause clipping. My profiles are intended to produce "accurate" colors, and not "good looking" colors.

The issue is that the air is simply unable to display the entire srgb space, as it has a small gamut monitor. For example, if it can only display say red from 0 to 200, as opposed to 0-255, its internal LUT is simply doing a linear mapping of colors to have a better gradation. e.g. (0->0, 255->200)

the problem with such a mapping is that the colors end up being simply wrong! what the icc profile does is measure exactly what the "real" color being produced is, and force the monitor to display the real color.

This also means that the gradation gets killed. If the monitor can't display the color it ends up as a splotch :o

anyway just use whatever works for you. If you are not working on graphics creation, then it probably doesn't matter. For more information you could look here (not my webpage)

http://www.damiensymonds.com.au/art_smlgmt2.html


I very much agree, this is the substance of the matter the Air's display is not capable of displaying the entire colour space, which forces compromise; accurate versus good looking colour, contrast ratios etc. For my use good colour separation is preferable to a high level of accuracy.

The new MacBook Air now rather creates a paradox, although the machine is now more than capable of running/generating high end graphical content, it is not capable of displaying the content accurately, and once again you have to carefully access you usage of the Air, ultraportable yes, graphic workstation no, short of an external display.

The next generation of MacBook Pro's will no doubt deliver more of what the graphic's guy's need in a reduced form factor, and hopefully the same concept of designed for SSD from the ground up. For me the Air's package of performance and portability are a good enough trade off, compared to my 4.1 MackBook Pro...

animatedude
Aug 9, 2011, 08:55 AM
you guys need to post an easy step by step on how to calibrate..i have an 11 inch and the screen is rubbish

KPOM
Aug 9, 2011, 10:04 AM
you guys need to post an easy step by step on how to calibrate..i have an 11 inch and the screen is rubbish

The easiest and best way is to buy a calibration unit (the Spyder3 Elite is a good one and is about $100). It takes about 10 minutes and gives you a custom calibration for your screen as well as the lighting conditions in wherever you are using it.

animatedude
Aug 9, 2011, 10:37 AM
i'm not gonna pay for anything just let me know in steps the easiest way to to calibrate from the built in calibration option...i don't know which options to choose.

TheRealDamager
Aug 9, 2011, 12:28 PM
i'm not gonna pay for anything just let me know in steps the easiest way to to calibrate from the built in calibration option...i don't know which options to choose.

Your tones a bit abrasive, but here you go:

1. Open Preferences.
2. Click on Displays.
3. Click on the "Color" tab.
4. Click on the "Calibrate" button.

Follow the instructions.

h00ligan
Aug 9, 2011, 12:55 PM
i'm not gonna pay for anything just let me know in steps the easiest way to to calibrate from the built in calibration option...i don't know which options to choose.

Yah really.. check the attitude when you're asking for help..

nobody 'needs to post steps' or has to 'let you know' anything, let alone dumbing it down for you to understand.

TRD you are a much much kinder person than me, I would have told him to get ....

penguintri
Aug 9, 2011, 07:21 PM
I've spent quite a while fiddling on supercal and this profile is the best I've been able to come up with so far!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17915862/experiment%206

animatedude
Aug 10, 2011, 03:41 AM
Your tones a bit abrasive, but here you go:

1. Open Preferences.
2. Click on Displays.
3. Click on the "Color" tab.
4. Click on the "Calibrate" button.

Follow the instructions.

dude i did this but in the end it created a profile which is exactly the same for the current settings...so nothing has changed.i guess i need to choose different options?

when you click on Calibrate can you please guide me what option i should click after that? because i only clicked on the recommended options and nothing has changed...also there's an Expert Mode which i didn't tick.

kindly, guide me please.thank you.

TheRealDamager
Aug 10, 2011, 08:29 AM
I've given about all the guidance I can here. The instructions are pretty simple in the Calibration tool. Just follow the instructions to set things in a way that works for your screen and your eyes. Try the Expert mode.

Not much else I can do for you here.

IngerMan
Aug 10, 2011, 01:31 PM
dude i did this but in the end it created a profile which is exactly the same for the current settings...so nothing has changed.i guess i need to choose different options?

when you click on Calibrate can you please guide me what option i should click after that? because i only clicked on the recommended options and nothing has changed...also there's an Expert Mode which i didn't tick.

kindly, guide me please.thank you.

Hit the advanced button:eek:

clyde2801
Aug 10, 2011, 03:35 PM
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/NewsSearch.asp?DocID=PD000000000000000000000000020957&query=APPLE

Apple is allegedly cutting orders to LG for iPad screens due to screen glitches.

IngerMan
Aug 10, 2011, 03:54 PM
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/NewsSearch.asp?DocID=PD000000000000000000000000020957&query=APPLE

Apple is allegedly cutting orders to LG for iPad screens due to screen glitches.

You are adding Fuel, but the quality failure was failing at "drop test" not clarity of the screen.

Let's start another thread, "I can drop my Samsung Panel higher then your LG panel" And it still works 3' 8"

Top that one.

clyde2801
Aug 10, 2011, 03:58 PM
You are adding Fuel, but the quality failure was failing at "drop test" not clarity of the screen.

Let's start another thread, "I can drop my Samsung Panel higher then your LG panel" And it still works 3' 8"

Top that one.

Yeah, I am. And the irony is that I've got an LG screen (samsung wouldn't power on all of a sudden), and I like it fine.

animatedude
Aug 12, 2011, 10:31 AM
why i can't find any of the profiles i downloaded from this thread in the Display Profiles in system preference?! how to add them..:o

scarred
Aug 12, 2011, 10:38 AM
why i can't find any of the profiles i downloaded from this thread in the Display Profiles in system preference?! how to add them..:o

1. Turn on your Macbook Air by pressing the button on the top right.
2. Log in with your user name and password when asked.
3. Click the Safari button in the Dock Window.
4. Navigate to here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13164937#post13164937
5. Read the earlier posts.

iTabone
Aug 12, 2011, 11:09 AM
How can I load a profile? I downloaded it and clicked on it, but it's not showing up as one of the profiles I can use.

animatedude
Aug 12, 2011, 11:32 AM
How can I load a profile? I downloaded it and clicked on it, but it's not showing up as one of the profiles I can use.

lol i'm having the same problem and apparently the guy who replied to me is mad.i checked all the previous posts many times, i can't import it by opening it from Colorsync Utility/ file/ open....it will just open the selected profile and NOT import it.

i'm also having difficulty accessing Library...i can't even find Library on Finder.

coolguy1
Aug 12, 2011, 11:36 AM
The last part of that should be DISPLAYS. Are you putting it there?

/LIBRARY/ColorSync/Profiles/Display

I'm guessing if your just dropping it into Profiles as you stated a few posts up, that might be why?

The same would probably be true in the user library folder.

I copied it here, but it still doesn't show up in list of installed profiles?

iTabone
Aug 12, 2011, 11:37 AM
I got it by going to ColorSync Utility. Go to Devices-Displays-Color LCD. Go to Current Profile, click the arrow, and open the .icm file. It works for me at least.

animatedude
Aug 12, 2011, 11:43 AM
I copied it here, but it still doesn't show up in list of installed profiles?

dude i thought it didn't show up but it did but under a different file name..check all the files on the list it will be one of them.

animatedude
Aug 12, 2011, 11:44 AM
How can I load a profile? I downloaded it and clicked on it, but it's not showing up as one of the profiles I can use.

copy and paste it in the colorsync profile by accessing the Library Folder first.

animatedude
Aug 12, 2011, 11:49 AM
so i take it the best profile for the 11-inch is the MBA139CDF.icc? i like it i'm just wondering if there's anything better than this one.

coolguy1
Aug 12, 2011, 11:49 AM
I got it by going to ColorSync Utility. Go to Devices-Displays-Color LCD. Go to Current Profile, click the arrow, and open the .icm file. It works for me at least.

Worked Finally!! thanks!

Formul
Aug 12, 2011, 09:07 PM
i don't know what happened, but when i bought the Air (LG display) few days ago there was a serious clipping on the red and other colors in the tests, but now ... its like it somehow settled, no matter what color profile i use i can see the whole spectrum from the darkest to the lightest!

i'm seriously blown away by this :-)

// both pbase.com and lagom.nl work

Queen6
Aug 12, 2011, 10:37 PM
i don't know what happened, but when i bought the Air (LG display) few days ago there was a serious clipping on the red and other colors in the tests, but now ... its like it somehow settled, no matter what color profile i use i can see the whole spectrum from the darkest to the lightest!

i'm seriously blown away by this :-)

// both pbase.com and lagom.nl work

If you are looking at lagom on Safari, it`s Safari`s that is creating the bulk of the clipping. Down load the images and tren again or use a differing browser, you will see a big difference. FWIW my LG 13inch has no clipping on the default profile.

Formul
Aug 13, 2011, 05:59 AM
If you are looking at lagom on Safari, it`s Safari`s that is creating the bulk of the clipping. Down load the images and tren again or use a differing browser, you will see a big difference. FWIW my LG 13inch has no clipping on the default profile.

i tried both the image in safari and downloaded one, no difference .. maybe i have messed something up

Queen6
Aug 13, 2011, 07:53 AM
This is one of the bad sides of the site; the difference in the LG & the Samsung display`s for the vast majority of users is negligible to the point of irrelevance, however many now feel they have bought a substandard product and are turning in circle`s trying to calibrate their display to show a colour spectrum it`s physically not capable of, and with even some returning the Air as a result of the "lottery"

With the narrow field of view of both screens, the Air is tricky to calibrate as you must replicate both lighting and viewing angle or you will constantly achieve inconsistent results, in short if you calibrate in one environment, don't be surprised that it looks different in another. The best compromise icc profile I have used so far is the default one, I know the colour not 100% accurate, yet it well works across a broad spectrum of usage.

Go back to the original icc, and just enjoy the Air for what it is, super slick highly portable Mac ;)

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i tried both the image in safari and downloaded one, no difference .. maybe i have messed something up

I attached my original icc if that is any help in a previous post #151, mine is an LG model 9CDF

hystery
Aug 13, 2011, 07:54 AM
So far I have tried all the profile on this thread and the best is still my original factory icc file. I use the images from http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ and download to the Air to avoid Safari`s color processing. I have attached the file for those that want to have a look, and some of the Lagom test pages. When you see the test images displayed on a single page the viewing angle is very apparent, with significant changes of Black levels & White saturation when the angle is altered.

My 13 inch display is an 9CDF LG, I may have just got lucky and the calibration was done reasonalby well at the factory. The Air`s display does not offer the same color depth as my 4.1 MacBook Pro, all the same the display is reasonable for such a portable machine...

I've got the same screen on my MBA 13",
does your display have shadow at the bottom, like 1cm or so? Although I got replaced mine since the last one had terrible display with grained pixels and shadow at the bottom, new one still has shadow. :(

I really wonder if anybody has one without the annoying shadow/gradient.

Queen6
Aug 13, 2011, 08:21 AM
I've got the same screen on my MBA 13",
does your display have shadow at the bottom, like 1cm or so? Although I got replaced mine since the last one had terrible display with grained pixels and shadow at the bottom, new one still has shadow. :(

I really wonder if anybody has one without the annoying shadow/gradient.

No, mine is fine, the display has uniform luminosity across the entire display 1-16. Apple has a tremendous reputation for quality, however they are literally producing hundreds of thousands of machines so, chasing 100% perfection will be a potentially frustrating ride...

On a side note when I bought my 2.4Ghz 4.1 MacBook Pro and the GeForce 8600M GT debacle was at full height, with many saying that all the GPU`s would fry, and some did. Mine is still unchanged after four years of constant use and I strongly suspect so are the majority, as with all forums those with issue are attracted first. I you feel the display is subpar then of course you should look to replace you Air, however if it`s an expectation of superior performance, then the 13 inch Pro with it`s superior display might more viable, the Air is the new :cool: Mac to have, however this does bring some limitation.

You can only try you Air in differing lighting conditions, viewing angles & adjust the brightness, if the shadowing at the bottom persists, I believe it will be more likely be associated with the backlight, than the calibration.

hystery
Aug 13, 2011, 08:48 AM
No, mine is fine, the display has uniform luminosity across the entire display 1-16. Apple has a tremendous reputation for quality, however they are literally producing hundreds of thousands of machines so, chasing 100% perfection will be a potentially frustrating ride...

On a side note when I bought my 2.4Ghz 4.1 MacBook Pro and the GeForce 8600M GT debacle was at full height, with many saying that all the GPU`s would fry, and some did. Mine is still unchanged after four years of constant use and I strongly suspect so are the majority, as with all forums those with issue are attracted first. I you feel the display is subpar then of course you should look to replace you Air, however if it`s an expectation of superior performance, then the 13 inch Pro with it`s superior display might more viable, the Air is the new :cool: Mac to have, however this does bring some limitation.

You can only try you Air in differing lighting conditions and viewing angles, if the shadowing at the bottom persists, I believe it will be more likely be associated with the backlight, than the calibration.

Yeah I think it's to do with the backlight... actually the screen itself is amazing, like, like you said it's well calibrated already.
I restate it's actually like 0.3 to 0.4 mm the shadow, while the last one which I got replaced had 1 cm of it. It's obvious if I repeat putting the Safari's status bar to the area and off. Not that much annoying considering 'bout its super reflect resistance (comparing to my MBP13"2010) and brightness. It's true it has the shadow though, but maybe I'm being like OCD. Except the shadow it's satisfactory jump up from MBP 2010...

Queen6
Aug 13, 2011, 09:11 AM
Yeah I think it's to do with the backlight... actually the screen itself is amazing, like, like you said it's well calibrated already.
I restate it's actually like 0.3 to 0.4 mm the shadow, while the last one which I got replaced had 1 cm of it. It's obvious if I repeat putting the Safari's status bar to the area and off. Not that much annoying considering 'bout its super reflect resistance (comparing to my MBP13"2010) and brightness. It's true it has the shadow though, but maybe I'm being like OCD. Except the shadow it's satisfactory jump up from MBP 2010...

At 0.3 - 0.4 the OCD is ramping up, I would just sit back and enjoy the show :D the new Air is great. One way to look at it is; if you put a microscope on anything you are going to find imperfection, maybe it`s best just to leave it to the eye ;)

hystery
Aug 13, 2011, 09:30 AM
One way to look at it is; if you put a microscope on anything you are going to find imperfection, maybe it`s best just to leave it to the eye ;)

Haha true. :) Thanks mate.

gorleegor
Aug 14, 2011, 12:07 AM
Hi, I have a 2011 MBA 13" 4G/128G SSD. My screen is a LG one. Here is my color profile generated by my Spyder2express. Screen is 50% bright. This is done with win7 through bootcamp as the program supporting this version of Spyder is only PowerPC one. I copied the profile and use it with OSX Lion. Feel free to use the attached profile as it should be better than self calibration. The default should be a bit warmer tone and much better contrast, which I like. Cheers ~~~

animatedude
Aug 16, 2011, 02:31 PM
for guys with 11-inch LG panels, what's your favorite display profile shared in this thread? i only tried MBA139CDF.icc and i love it.

share your favorite/best ones.

Chipg
Aug 16, 2011, 04:21 PM
I REALLY like MBA139CDF.icc profile for easy reading on the LG 13" screen, reason why is much LESS eye strain, it does crush the blacks and limit dynamic range but, so what, anyone who tries to use a laptop for serious color correction should have their head examined. The benefit for me after using it for a while (office work, spreadsheets, emails etc.) far outweighs being able to see a little further into a deep shadow on a pic.

I'm going to stay with this profile. If your serious about photography you'll have a very nice color calibrated external monitor to plug into.

Thanks for this profile BTW!

hystery
Aug 16, 2011, 11:51 PM
Hi, I have a 2011 MBA 13" 4G/128G SSD. My screen is a LG one. Here is my color profile generated by my Spyder2express. Screen is 50% bright. This is done with win7 through bootcamp as the program supporting this version of Spyder is only PowerPC one. I copied the profile and use it with OSX Lion. Feel free to use the attached profile as it should be better than self calibration. The default should be a bit warmer tone and much better contrast, which I like. Cheers ~~~

'ey yours works nicely. It looks colder on my screen, while MBA139CDF is warmer. Nice when I have to switch off my air con.
...I mean cool, thanks.

edit* been using it for some hours, I really like it I realized.

Typswif2fingers
Aug 18, 2011, 10:07 AM
I found this Screen Calibration (on the bottom of the page, post #86) by Corax (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=426699&page=4) that works really nice for me, so much so that I thought it worth sharing.

liuyu81
Sep 2, 2011, 05:03 AM
Give this one a try, I spent some time trying to get it just right.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12013/LG%20Calibrated.icc

i like this one most!

animatedude
Sep 2, 2011, 05:24 AM
i like this one most!

for the 11 inch or 13?

coolguy1
Sep 2, 2011, 09:33 PM
Is there a good profile for SAMSUNG screen in 2011 13" base model?

bandofbrothers
Sep 3, 2011, 01:51 AM
I'm no saying you guys are doing anything wrong but personally it does not bother me what make if screen or ssd is in my MBA. I'm just enjoying this awesome machine.

Just my 2 cents.

kettybear
Sep 5, 2011, 02:37 AM
I've spent quite a while fiddling on supercal and this profile is the best I've been able to come up with so far!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17915862/experiment%206

This one's next best one compared to my default manufacturer profile. It's just a little on the cool side and too much gamma so clips white. The MBA139CDF everyone likes clips the darks. =/ Every other one I've tried on this thread is just way too blue or yellow.

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Hi, I have a 2011 MBA 13" 4G/128G SSD. My screen is a LG one. Here is my color profile generated by my Spyder2express. Screen is 50% bright. This is done with win7 through bootcamp as the program supporting this version of Spyder is only PowerPC one. I copied the profile and use it with OSX Lion. Feel free to use the attached profile as it should be better than self calibration. The default should be a bit warmer tone and much better contrast, which I like. Cheers ~~~

I like this one except it's a little too red?? Other than that it's perfect.

freeman727
Sep 5, 2011, 07:22 AM
I use the profile by Corax too.

I found this Screen Calibration (on the bottom of the page, post #86) by Corax (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=426699&page=4) that works really nice for me, so much so that I thought it worth sharing.

zengravy
Sep 8, 2011, 08:24 AM
I spent some time playing around with the Expert Console in SpyderElite 4 and finally settled on this: 2.2 Gamma, Native Whitepoint, metered brightness to 265 (max is 291.6 btw). It's one of the few settings that doesn't result in a warm, almost pink, color cast in the grays.

This is is the LG Screen from a 13" 2011 - LP133WP1-TJA3.

IngerMan
Sep 8, 2011, 01:27 PM
I spent some time playing around with the Expert Console in SpyderElite 4 and finally settled on this: 2.2 Gamma, Native Whitepoint, metered brightness to 265 (max is 291.6 btw). It's one of the few settings that doesn't result in a warm, almost pink, color cast in the grays.

This is is the LG Screen from a 13" 2011 - LP133WP1-TJA3.

Thank you ZenGravy. I am trying it out on my LG 11" and like what I see so far. Not to dark as most I have tried but a little more color then the stock version.

zengravy
Sep 8, 2011, 03:14 PM
I went as high as 280 on luminance. It's a bit warmer and has a slight cast but works well in brightly lit (fluorescent) environments. 280 is attached.

animatedude
Sep 9, 2011, 03:19 AM
for the 11 inch or 13?

zengravy
Sep 9, 2011, 10:13 AM
This is for the LG 13"

coolguy1
Sep 10, 2011, 03:18 PM
what about samsung 13"?

Lord Appleseed
Sep 10, 2011, 04:06 PM
what about samsung 13"?

"LG Panel owners - calibrate your screens"

IngerMan
Sep 11, 2011, 08:37 AM
I went as high as 280 on luminance. It's a bit warmer and has a slight cast but works well in brightly lit (fluorescent) environments. 280 is attached.

I have been using your 265 & 280 display for 3 days now. It is much better then the SuperCal's I have created. The SuperCal gives me rich deep colors but they are not true when using photo software, they are too dark. Thanks again for taking the time to share. It is very pleasing for my 11" LG screen.

Apple Expert
Sep 14, 2011, 06:24 PM
Does anyone feel that the Samsung is equal or better than the LG? Has anyone did a side by side with these two?

TheRealDamager
Sep 14, 2011, 06:53 PM
Seriously?

pollaxe
Sep 15, 2011, 03:07 AM
Does anyone feel that the Samsung is equal or better than the LG? Has anyone did a side by side with these two?

Some weeks ago I saw three 13" 2011 MBAs together - 2 Samsungs, 1 LG and there was no discernible difference between them that I could detect.

I'm an LG owner and suffer from as much OCD as many other forum users but I'm more than content with my screen. Unless there are some bad batches floating around, I'm convinced the majority of this Samsung vs LG display thing is complete FUD.

erasr
Sep 15, 2011, 04:32 AM
I truly believe there's no obvious quality difference. It's all bullish*t.

Basically, there's a couple of differences between the two, some people prefer the Samsung differences some people prefer the LG's. Probably more preferring the Samsungs. Such as it's slightly better colours on screen. The LG has other factors and I prefer it's contrasts.

RobNor
Sep 15, 2011, 04:36 AM
How u inform is the backlighting on your LG screen?

Mine is brighter from the midway point to the top of the screen

hidefguy
Sep 15, 2011, 08:38 AM
I spent some time playing around with the Expert Console in SpyderElite 4 and finally settled on this: 2.2 Gamma, Native Whitepoint, metered brightness to 265 (max is 291.6 btw). It's one of the few settings that doesn't result in a warm, almost pink, color cast in the grays.

This is is the LG Screen from a 13" 2011 - LP133WP1-TJA3.

I went as high as 280 on luminance. It's a bit warmer and has a slight cast but works well in brightly lit (fluorescent) environments. 280 is attached.

Been using your 265 for a week now, find the colors and brightness a lot better than default IMHO. Thanks.

Apple Expert
Sep 15, 2011, 08:50 AM
Been using the MacRumors profile and I like it a lot. Good balance of contrast and color.

animatedude
Sep 15, 2011, 07:52 PM
Been using the MacRumors profile and I like it a lot. Good balance of contrast and color.

MacRumors profile? what's that? i want the best profile for the 11 inch LG...i tried one of the the profiles circulated here and i like it but i'm wondering if there's any better ones..

Apple Expert
Sep 15, 2011, 09:21 PM
MacRumors profile? what's that? i want the best profile for the 11 inch LG...i tried one of the the profiles circulated here and i like it but i'm wondering if there's any better ones..

See post 199.

erasr
Sep 16, 2011, 04:18 AM
Im using whatever one was called 'MBA 265'. It's ideal, in fact it's probably the reason why I suddenly stopped getting eye strain after the first 4 days using the standard setup.

Confuzzzed
Sep 16, 2011, 05:24 AM
I still don't understand how you do this...click on the url forum users have kindly shared, lands in the downloads folder, open it and colorsync utility opens but how exactly do you apply these new profiles in a Lion environment so that you can choose which one suits you? I even rang applecare and they said they don't support colorsync utility...even if you launch colorsync utility and open the file, it doesn't apply it. If you go to colorsync utility and then click on profiles it does not give you the option to upload to your library and of these files.

Can someone please post step by step Idiots guide of how you go from clicking on the url that appears on the forum to actually actioning these profiles. thanks

erasr
Sep 16, 2011, 06:06 AM
I still don't understand how you do this...click on the url forum users have kindly shared, lands in the downloads folder, open it and colorsync utility opens but how exactly do you apply these new profiles in a Lion environment so that you can choose which one suits you? I even rang applecare and they said they don't support colorsync utility...even if you launch colorsync utility and open the file, it doesn't apply it. If you go to colorsync utility and then click on profiles it does not give you the option to upload to your library and of these files.

Can someone please post step by step Idiots guide of how you go from clicking on the url that appears on the forum to actually actioning these profiles. thanks

I didn't understand either because all the explanations on this thread were far to up and down and complicated!

I'll try explain:

1. At the top of your screen, while on the desktop, click on "GO". This brings up a menu of places you can go to.

2. Hold down 'ALT' button, which then brings up the hidden 'LIBRARY' folder. Click on the library folder.

3. Double click 'COLOR SYNC UTILITY' (opens it up). Then 'PROFILES' (opens it up).

4. Simply download the calibration you want, drag it from your downloads into the 'PROFILE' folder. Now close all this.

5. Go to your standard 'SYSTEM PREFERENCES' on your dock. Open up 'DISPLAYS'. Click on 'COLOR' tab.

6. Important: DE-TICK the 'Show profiles for this display only' box.

7. You should see the new calibration in this displays tab.

stevey69
Sep 16, 2011, 06:25 AM
I went as high as 280 on luminance. It's a bit warmer and has a slight cast but works well in brightly lit (fluorescent) environments. 280 is attached.


which one is your favorite one? 280 or the 260? i currently have it set on the 280... i like the colors ... they look more vibrant. thank you so much. please let me know which one do you like better. this is the first time I've used all this nonsense to make my screen better. always thought apple products are jus supposed to work RIGHT the moment you break that apple seal .

minnus
Sep 16, 2011, 06:26 AM
I didn't understand either because all the explanations on this thread were far to up and down and complicated!

I'll try explain:

1. At the top of your screen, while on the desktop, click on "GO". This brings up a menu of places you can go to.

2. Hold down 'ALT' button, which then brings up the hidden 'LIBRARY' folder. Click on the library folder.

3. Double click 'COLOR SYNC UTILITY' (opens it up). Then 'PROFILES' (opens it up).

4. Simple download the calibration you want, drag it from your downloads into the 'PROFILE' folder. Now close all this.

5. Go to your standard 'SYSTEM PREFERENCES' on your dock. Open up 'DISPLAYS'. Click on 'COLOR' tab.

6. Important: DE-TICK the 'Show profiles for this display only' box.

7. You should see the new calibration in this displays tab.

Another thing worth mentioning is that Library\ColorSync\Profiles will not exist till the user creates a custom profile color of their own.

Confuzzzed
Sep 16, 2011, 05:24 PM
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color%20Profiles/6500k%20mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011

I have a 13" LG screen and this profile works best for me. Thanks for sharing

Sangdushi
Sep 26, 2011, 08:27 PM
ok I've downloaded the file OP posted, how do I have those settings as my calibration?

KPOM
Sep 26, 2011, 11:08 PM
I posted this earlier, but it's been about 2 months. This is for an 11" screen on a 2011 i7 MacBook Air.

mrwonkers
Sep 28, 2011, 11:38 AM
After days of hunting the net for an acceptable icc profile for my LP116WH4-TJA3 lcd [LG Philips] on my 2011 11" MacBook Air I decided to try calibrating my own screen.
I found all profiles I tested to be either too washed out, too dark or just flat or lacking in the colours that were reproduced. This profile that Apple shipped with this machine is just plain crap, anyway heres the icc profile I created that works very well for my screen. I calibrated it by eye after using several semi pro hardware calibrators [which all turned in rather disappointing profiles]

I have both the Samsung and LG Lcds in 2011 11" MacBook Airs and they both suck equally [From my testing the LG Philips is the superior of the 2] - would kill for a quality screen in an ultraportable, until then with this profile applied this is about the absolute best I can expect or hope for...

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IngerMan
Sep 28, 2011, 12:26 PM
After days of hunting the net for an acceptable icc profile for my LP116WH4-TJA3 lcd [LG Philips] on my 2011 11" MacBook Air I decided to try calibrating my own screen.
I found all profiles I tested to be either too washed out, too dark or just flat or lacking in the colours that were reproduced. This profile that Apple shipped with this machine is just plain crap, anyway heres the icc profile I created that works very well for my screen. I calibrated it by eye after using several semi pro hardware calibrators [which all turned in rather disappointing profiles]

I have both the Samsung and LG Lcds in 2011 11" MacBook Airs and they both suck equally [From my testing the LG Philips is the superior of the 2] - would kill for a quality screen in an ultraportable, until then with this profile applied this is about the absolute best I can expect or hope for...

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Is that ever Blue, for me. I still think the 280 a few post up is as good as anything I have seen. 265 or 280 is the Best that I have seen on my screen. But to each his own.

mrwonkers
Sep 28, 2011, 12:42 PM
Is that ever Blue, for me. I still think the 280 a few post up is as good as anything I have seen. 265 or 280 is the Best that I have seen on my screen. But to each his own.

Yes your right very blue, I uploaded the wrong one.
Here is the correct version, hope this proves a little better.

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Gemütlichkeit
Sep 28, 2011, 01:43 PM
default looks the best for me.

these calibrated files everyone is posting are too blue

Aksta
Sep 28, 2011, 01:56 PM
default looks the best for me.

these calibrated files everyone is posting are too blue

I found this true as well. The original one looks closest to my iMac screen.

justywusty
Sep 28, 2011, 02:01 PM
default looks the best for me.

these calibrated files everyone is posting are too blue

I found this true as well. The original one looks closest to my iMac screen.

me too...until i found this one (i think i got it in this thread somewhere).

it's warm and better than the default. trust me and try it.

http://cl.ly/1x1U3p2S26370K3Z3W3q/6500k_mba.icm

smokedog
Sep 28, 2011, 04:36 PM
me too...until i found this one (i think i got it in this thread somewhere).

it's warm and better than the default. trust me and try it.

http://cl.ly/1x1U3p2S26370K3Z3W3q/6500k_mba.icm


Thanks

Pipper99
Oct 6, 2011, 04:53 PM
Does anyone know what this error generated in the Color Sync Utility: verify profile means?

"Tag 'cprt': Text tag has an incorrect length"

robots3humans0
Oct 6, 2011, 05:19 PM
me too...until i found this one (i think i got it in this thread somewhere).

it's warm and better than the default. trust me and try it.

http://cl.ly/1x1U3p2S26370K3Z3W3q/6500k_mba.icm

This one is perfect. Thanks for sharing. The others were definitely far too blue.

Sangdushi
Oct 7, 2011, 09:39 PM
You should be able to get it imported by getting to the colour tab, press open profile, then in the menu see the colour sync utility appear, click file, open, browse to the file.

This should do it

I'm sorry, I followed the steps but still couldn't figure out how to try a downloaded profile. this is my first mac :o

edit: figured it out myself. forget it :D

Pipper99
Oct 7, 2011, 09:51 PM
me too...until i found this one (i think i got it in this thread somewhere).

it's warm and better than the default. trust me and try it.

http://cl.ly/1x1U3p2S26370K3Z3W3q/6500k_mba.icm

This is the best one that I've seen. Thank you: the display looks much better.

ayacalip
Oct 8, 2011, 09:00 PM
This is the best one that I've seen. Thank you: the display looks much better.


Me too. This is the best I feel... at least the color is richer and deeper than default on the whole although it is warmer.

However.. I have one issue about Dark Blue..
For example, when I go to facebook hompage. The top Dark Blue banner seems still wash out.

Do you feel that too?

Does this color profile still not improve Dark Blue range??:(:confused:

Kristine
Oct 9, 2011, 12:56 AM
Me too. This is the best I feel... at least the color is richer and deeper than default on the whole although it is warmer.

However.. I have one issue about Dark Blue..
For example, when I go to facebook hompage. The top Dark Blue banner seems still wash out.

Do you feel that too?

Does this color profile still not improve Dark Blue range??:(:confused:

You might want to try out the the CustomMacRumors (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc) profile.

ayacalip
Oct 9, 2011, 10:38 PM
You might want to try out the the CustomMacRumors (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7269253/CustomMacRumors.icc) profile.

sorry, I have tried. but.... some black levels disappeared:(

Are there any better color profile possible? :rolleyes:

IngerMan
Oct 10, 2011, 06:17 AM
sorry, I have tried. but.... some black levels disappeared:(

Are there any better color profile possible? :rolleyes:

Check out thread 199 & 201 by ZenGravy. They are the best IMHO. I have been using the 280 since his post.

ayacalip
Oct 17, 2011, 10:22 PM
Check out thread 199 & 201 by ZenGravy. They are the best IMHO. I have been using the 280 since his post.

do you feel that if it is richer in color or still washout in your MBA when using 280?:p

animatedude
Oct 18, 2011, 01:59 AM
i think we need a new thread where all the profiles are listed so we can vote which is better.......

ayacalip
Oct 18, 2011, 02:20 AM
i think we need a new thread where all the profiles are listed so we can vote which is better.......

I agree so!!

IngerMan
Oct 18, 2011, 08:12 PM
do you feel that if it is richer in color or still washout in your MBA when using 280?:p

It is very easy to get rich colors with inexpensive software like SuperCal. You may think the rich colors are great. But the colors are not accurate to real world. I found the 280 matches very close to my 2007 iMac screen. I find that my photos print close to what the screen shows. I guess it depends if you want vibrant looking colors or you want color accuracy.

ayacalip
Oct 19, 2011, 07:53 AM
It is very easy to get rich colors with inexpensive software like SuperCal. You may think the rich colors are great. But the colors are not accurate to real world. I found the 280 matches very close to my 2007 iMac screen. I find that my photos print close to what the screen shows. I guess it depends if you want vibrant looking colors or you want color accuracy.

In fact I have tried 280 color profile, it is much better than 6500K, at least...6500K is too warm. 280 is not.

but i want to ask what brightness % level are you using under 280, in order to get the best viewing result?:p

IngerMan
Oct 19, 2011, 09:22 AM
In fact I have tried 280 color profile, it is much better than 6500K, at least...6500K is too warm. 280 is not.

but i want to ask what brightness % level are you using under 280, in order to get the best viewing result?:p

With power I am usually 2 clicks away from full brightness and on battery since I am trying to conserve I am at least 4 clicks from full.

I hope that helps.

heyloo
Nov 1, 2011, 03:41 AM
This thread needs a bump! :) I had no idea about this thread until I stumbled across http://www.recenseo.me/post/11570077869/essential-trick-for-macbook-air-owners from Zite!

Had to get up from bed to check out if my panel was an LG and yep, it sure was. Calibrated and looks great! Thanks!

NutsNGum
Nov 17, 2011, 02:55 PM
Is that ever Blue, for me. I still think the 280 a few post up is as good as anything I have seen. 265 or 280 is the Best that I have seen on my screen. But to each his own.

Agreed. It's like being underwater.

Queen6
Nov 18, 2011, 12:02 AM
Another vote for 280 :D

tomaseriksson
Nov 18, 2011, 03:15 AM
Ooh, I just tried the 280. I like it a lot so far! Better separation between grey and blue. The macrumors forum looks alot better :)

stfwayne
Nov 21, 2011, 03:22 AM
I just found this thread

I want to say thanks to all the people that made the different setting profiles and esp for the one poster that gave the very easy to follow instructions

I am using 280 and was wondering is the ideal setting supposed to be 2 from the highest brightness setting or is the ideal setting at full brightness bc at 2 from the highest the screen looks a bit washed out

thekev
Nov 21, 2011, 03:42 AM
Thanks for this. I loaded your calibration file and the "coolness" was startling, but would be nice with a bit of tweaking, I believe.

The panel to panel variation in these is a bit too high for tweaked settings to be reliable. These are basically tweaked by eye on one display in the worst manner possible.

Give this one a try, I spent some time trying to get it just right.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12013/LG%20Calibrated.icc

Yes... what looks good to you obviously. Note the variation in opinion. This won't give you accurate color.

I found running through the free version I ended up getting different results... but not really better results.

I find turning my contrast up via the "Universal Access" in system preferences (just a smudge up) gives better color but it's artificial.

I wish there were a way to maintain the colour accuracy but give some more saturation/depth.

There isn't really. Attempting to do so would really smoosh your details in saturated primary colors, so you might get slightly more vibrance, but you'd kill the detail.

Thanks, so there is no concern importing these files into the library folder? Just wanted to be sure .icc can't contain anything malicious. I'm coming from the Windows world where you always have to be concerned, heh.

I've never heard of anyone planting malware in icc profiles.


None of the stuff listed in this thread is a really good idea.