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entatlrg
Jul 23, 2011, 01:11 PM
What model/spec's, i5/i7?

How many hours a day use?

Hook up to an external display, what kind?

Heat or fan noise issue's?

Thanks.



s.hasan546
Jul 23, 2011, 01:32 PM
What model/spec's, i5/i7?

How many hours a day use?

Hook up to an external display, what kind?

Heat or fan noise issue's?

Thanks.

i will be using the 11" as my main.

Im getting the 11" 128 gb 4gb ram i5.

6-8 hours of usage a day.

While in the office will be hooked up to 2 22" lcd monitors, Samsung T220 i think.

misterneums
Jul 23, 2011, 01:35 PM
i will be using the 11" as my main.

Im getting the 11" 128 gb 4gb ram i5.

6-8 hours of usage a day.

While in the office will be hooked up to 2 22" lcd monitors, Samsung T220 i think.

Uhh... Perhaps I am just missing something--but I thought you could only daisy chain off of Thunderbolt equipped monitors. I was under the impression you could hook up the air to a single monitor unless it was Thunderbolt.

arthurbath
Jul 23, 2011, 01:49 PM
1.6GHz i5, 4GB RAM, 128GB. I'm using it for everything, up to 8 hours at work and then for personal stuff at home. I'm doing mostly web development and image editing. No problems with fan noise. It's a little quiet under the sound of the air conditioning at home, but it would be decently loud otherwise. I've only been using it for a couple of days, but it's a great improvement over my last-gen 13" one, almost 2x the GeekBench score, and it's noticeable, especially doing image editing.

JLatte
Jul 23, 2011, 01:58 PM
Web developer here, I use it at the office as my primary computer for 8 hours, then at home doing iphone coding for about 3 - 4 hours a night.

Have it hooked up to some an external monitor at all times while at work and at home. Last night I worked from a coffee shop and it was great even on the 11" screen. The external monitors aren't anything special of a brand.

11" ultimate (1.8 i7, 256gb hd, 4gb ram)

I definitely have no heat or fan issues. It does get mildly warm when I'm running the peak of my apps, but nowhere close to burning hot or anything.

noodles5666
Jul 23, 2011, 02:16 PM
11" 1.6 i5 with 128GB/4GB hooked up to a 46" Sony Bravia 3D HDTV.

meistervu
Jul 23, 2011, 07:04 PM
I used a 17" 1920x1200 Windows laptop. I went in looking for a 13" MBA 2 days ago but instead went for a 11" yesterday. I really like the size, and wanted to see if it would work for me. There was really no way to tell but try it for yourself I think.

I am a software developer and I figure when I need the real estate, I can always hook it up to my 24" LCD. Here are my list of pro's and con's for the 11":

pros's
-------
1. can always go bigger (with external display)
2. tiny and light

con's
-----
1. 768 pixel tall
2. 2 hours less of battery
3. no sd card reader

But I was skeptical about how much better 900 pixel height is compared to 768. I figured that I may get used to it. After all we are talking about just 132 pixels right?

Well, after a day I kept wishing for a larger screen. It's not just web browsing but general coding, the screen felt a bit cramp, even with full screen apps. Then I asked myself what's the drawback of a 13" and decided that for me there's none. So I went back and exchanged mine for a 13". Here are my pro's and con's of the 13" in comparison to the 11" while I still have the 11" experience fresh in my mind.

pro's
-----
1. larger screen (duh)
2. doesn't feel any heavier (too light to start with)
3. wider base is more stable on lap
4. longer battery life
5. larger trackpad
6. sd card slot

con's
-----
1. I can feel the sharp base on my forearm as I type (not a problem on the 11")

So my reasons to go with the 11" were unfounded: weight and size is not a problem at all. It's surprising to me on the one drawback of the 13" sharp edge on the forearm. But that's a small thing compared to the rest of the pro's, nothing a pair of wrist sweat bands can't fix :)

I hope my experience help someone else in the same boat.

mariov
Jul 23, 2011, 10:13 PM
i do. The cheapest one. I just use an external wired apple keyboard, full size. It is my only machine and im happy with it.

aleni
Jul 24, 2011, 03:18 AM
768 pixels tall doesn't matter anymore with Lion's fullscreen apps.

entatlrg
Aug 11, 2011, 12:15 PM
True, and the i series processors power the external displays and peripherals with no problems.

adamtj11
Aug 11, 2011, 12:32 PM
Yup the base model, have a Mac Mini that hasn't been used in 2 weeks now!

3bs
Aug 11, 2011, 12:39 PM
I use my 2010 11" ultimate as my main computer. Sometimes I notice the fans and a bit of heat but generally it isn't an issue. I use it at least 4 hours a day and I usually have it hooped up to the power supply but no external monitor.

Obsidiank
Aug 11, 2011, 12:41 PM
I use my as primary. 1.6/4/128. It's hooked up to 27 ACD. Haven't found anything it can't do yet.

Gordy
Aug 11, 2011, 03:46 PM
I use my as primary. 1.6/4/128. It's hooked up to 27 ACD. Haven't found anything it can't do yet.


Same setup here. Just using it for the first day today. Still transferring everything over so it's hard to comment on just how it's going. So far it's great, I have some file sharing issues to bottom out, but that's for tomorrow.

blairh
Aug 11, 2011, 03:56 PM
Main machine in the sense that I manage all my media on mine. Right now I'm splitting equal time between the MBA and Mini. I have the 4/128 model and I can easily fit all my music (50 GBs) and pics (5 GBs) with plenty of space left over (All backed up on an external, of course.) All my videos chill out on my external.

Haven't heard the fans yet (knock on wood).

urkel
Aug 11, 2011, 03:57 PM
Had 15" MBP 2009. Replaced that with 13" MBA 2011. Got jealous and replaced that with 11" MBA 2011.

So for me its:
11" MBA 2011 w/128GB
4hrs day use (mostly Aperture, Banking, iTunes Sync)
24" External Samsung Display
TONS of Heat and Fan Noise but thats because I'm an idiot and bought a Time Capsule so my initial backup is at hour 9 and still has 50GB to go. Hopefully the noise drops when the Time Capsule gets its data.

DieterRams
Aug 11, 2011, 04:26 PM
I use my 2010 11" ultimate as my main computer. Sometimes I notice the fans and a bit of heat but generally it isn't an issue. I use it at least 4 hours a day and I usually have it hooped up to the power supply but no external monitor.

You don't use an external for your 11"? Do you ever have issue with having to curl up your fingers a bit more to use the keyboard on the 11" while making sure your palms are resting above the edge so that it doesn't cut into your wrists? Or the trackpad being a bit shorter so that you have to narrow the gap between your fingers and thumb to use it? What programs do you use on it, what kind of usage?

I'll be doing designing/developing on it (Xcode, CS5, Eclipse, with lots of browsing, some music and video) and it would literally be my only machine, no external monitor. Would I be better off with 13" or is 11" good for my needs?

Mmarzex
Aug 11, 2011, 04:37 PM
My base model 11" is becoming my main machine. Once I finish transferring over all my documents, and various other files to it, I will be using it full time. I use it with an hp2009m monitor whenever i need more screen space.

franmatt80
Aug 12, 2011, 02:47 PM
My 1.6 /4GB/ 128GB is fast becoming my main machine - unintentionally. It's such a pleasure to use.

Using for up to 7/8 hours a day
Rarely hooked up to an external display, but works great when I do (HP)
Only a bit of heat and fan noise when it's been running videos for a few hours

Sounds Good
Aug 12, 2011, 03:11 PM
Guys, how many different things can get attached to a USB at one time? (and still work, obviously)

I would need to connect an Ethernet adapter, an external DVD burner, an external keyboard, and probably something else I'm forgetting. That's 4 things.

Would all 4 of the above items work if they all plugged into a USB hub, then plugged the hub into the MBA?

Thanks...

Edit: I just remembered that I'd most likely need an external hard drive to be connected at all times.

Also, I realized the DVD would not need to be connected at all times.

franmatt80
Aug 12, 2011, 03:14 PM
I don't do this myself, so can't claim first hand experience, but I can't see why not?

If not, could always consider a few different options - bluetooth keyboard, Wifi, using another machine for Remote disk access....

kilonet
Aug 12, 2011, 03:23 PM
11", i7, 128GB is my main machine. I got external monitor and network storage (soon).

roccobladr
Aug 12, 2011, 03:30 PM
i5, 128GB, 4GB RAM

Been using it for several hours each day for the past few weeks. No problems yet. Played around with iPhoto, iMovie no problem. Been using GarageBand with Midi Keyboard no problem as well. Email/web/iTunes etc blazing fast.

Also using it to play some games (from humble indie bundle) and does get hot at times with the games, but other than that no qualms.

This is definitely going to continue to be used as my main machine. I also could not justify spending 1200$ on a computer and not using it as much as possible to its full capacity.

harveyza
Aug 12, 2011, 03:38 PM
i7/4GB RAM/256GB SSD.
I will use it probable 3-4 hours a day on the move without an external.
Also have a 24" Samsung external for processing large amounts of data when I'm at home. I also have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to use it in clamshell mode for watching movies, etc.

DieterRams
Aug 12, 2011, 06:24 PM
I used a 17" 1920x1200 Windows laptop. I went in looking for a 13" MBA 2 days ago but instead went for a 11" yesterday. I really like the size, and wanted to see if it would work for me. There was really no way to tell but try it for yourself I think.

I am a software developer and I figure when I need the real estate, I can always hook it up to my 24" LCD. Here are my list of pro's and con's for the 11":

pros's
-------
1. can always go bigger (with external display)
2. tiny and light

con's
-----
1. 768 pixel tall
2. 2 hours less of battery
3. no sd card reader

But I was skeptical about how much better 900 pixel height is compared to 768. I figured that I may get used to it. After all we are talking about just 132 pixels right?

Well, after a day I kept wishing for a larger screen. It's not just web browsing but general coding, the screen felt a bit cramp, even with full screen apps. Then I asked myself what's the drawback of a 13" and decided that for me there's none. So I went back and exchanged mine for a 13". Here are my pro's and con's of the 13" in comparison to the 11" while I still have the 11" experience fresh in my mind.

pro's
-----
1. larger screen (duh)
2. doesn't feel any heavier (too light to start with)
3. wider base is more stable on lap
4. longer battery life
5. larger trackpad
6. sd card slot

con's
-----
1. I can feel the sharp base on my forearm as I type (not a problem on the 11")

So my reasons to go with the 11" were unfounded: weight and size is not a problem at all. It's surprising to me on the one drawback of the 13" sharp edge on the forearm. But that's a small thing compared to the rest of the pro's, nothing a pair of wrist sweat bands can't fix :)

I hope my experience help someone else in the same boat.

I'm a little surprised on the forearm bit. I found that the 11" would dig into my palm/wrist at the edge. But if I kept my wrists above the edge, I had to curl my fingers inward a bit to type so that my fingers are on the keyboard home row (F and J). You didn't find that to be the case? And how about the size of the trackpad? Didn't you have to reduce the gap between your fingers and thumb while using it on the 11"?

waltercln
Aug 12, 2011, 07:58 PM
i been using my MBA as my main as well after my windows laptop got into some problems.

my question is, does it matter if i use an external monitor and leave it plugged in most of the day? the battery is what i mean, im a bit paranoid and feel the battery would wear down and become crappy if i leave the charger plugged in most of the day everyday because of an external monitor. should i worry about this? or am i becoming too paranoid and loving with my new machine.


also is there a way i can output to the external monitor only and not have the image also run on the MBA? can't seem to figure that out yet. i would like to use the airs keyboard thats why.

urkel
Aug 12, 2011, 08:42 PM
I posted earlier how I went to an 11" and one of the things that bugged me was managing data on a 128GB SSD. Well, I gound a solution. I gave in and bought an open box last gen Mac Mini from Best Buy for $400.

I thought I could live off one computer (and I could) but this solved so many problems.
- DVD can be shared so I saved $80 there
- Firewire drives arent wasted anymore
- Main Aperture library resides there and I can just export projects to the Air (which clears a ton of space and makes the 128GB SSD feel very roomy)

The only problem I have now is sharing two computers which is kinda a pain but i wont complain.

h00ligan
Aug 12, 2011, 08:57 PM
i been using my MBA as my main as well after my windows laptop got into some problems.

my question is, does it matter if i use an external monitor and leave it plugged in most of the day? the battery is what i mean, im a bit paranoid and feel the battery would wear down and become crappy if i leave the charger plugged in most of the day everyday because of an external monitor. should i worry about this? or am i becoming too paranoid and loving with my new machine.


also is there a way i can output to the external monitor only and not have the image also run on the MBA? can't seem to figure that out yet. i would like to use the airs keyboard thats why.

no - http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

yes - http://osxdaily.com/2010/04/27/set-the-primary-display-mac/

waltercln
Aug 12, 2011, 10:06 PM
no - http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

yes - http://osxdaily.com/2010/04/27/set-the-primary-display-mac/

thanks a ton for the links

h00ligan
Aug 12, 2011, 10:08 PM
Glad to help.

B J M
Aug 13, 2011, 06:14 AM
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11" 1.6 i5 with 128GB/4GB hooked up to a 46" Sony Bravia 3D HDTV.

I plan on getting the 11" as my main computer 4gb 128 ssd i5, and hooking it up to a 42 inch tv instead of having to invest in another monitor, I take it this works for you and your 46inch screen is fine on your eyes?

jbanning
Aug 13, 2011, 06:53 AM
I had a 2010 13" MacBook Air and went a bought the 11". I like it soooo much better. To me the size if perfect. Fits easier in my bag, easier to carry IMO. It's my main computer for work and i have a 27" iMac for personal.

Full screen apps are really nice under Lion (I had my doubts initially, but once you learn all the gestures for app switching, it really does work well). I work from home most days and have the 11" hooked up to a 24" monitor.

When I'm at a client or the office, the 11" form factor is perfect for taking notes during meetings (it seems to stay out of the way). All in all, it's the best laptop I've ever owned (and I've had plenty over the years).

Sounds Good
Aug 13, 2011, 07:54 AM
I work from home most days and have the 11" hooked up to a 24" monitor.

This is like my situation except I work from home EVERY day and hook up to a 24" monitor 95% of the time. Still trying to make sure 11" is the right way to go (for me) rather than 13". Since you're in a similar boat and have used both sizes, got any thought for me on this subject?

Thanks!

DieterRams
Aug 13, 2011, 10:40 AM
I had a 2010 13" MacBook Air and went a bought the 11". I like it soooo much better. To me the size if perfect. Fits easier in my bag, easier to carry IMO. It's my main computer for work and i have a 27" iMac for personal.

Full screen apps are really nice under Lion (I had my doubts initially, but once you learn all the gestures for app switching, it really does work well). I work from home most days and have the 11" hooked up to a 24" monitor.

When I'm at a client or the office, the 11" form factor is perfect for taking notes during meetings (it seems to stay out of the way). All in all, it's the best laptop I've ever owned (and I've had plenty over the years).

If you didn't have an external monitor and didn't have the option of getting one, would you still have gone for the 11"? Would you be able to use it as normal, comfortably, without an external monitor at all as opposed to the 13"?