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Knoxifier
Jul 24, 2011, 10:03 AM
As I'm in the process of researching a new phone I was in our local Apple reseller and I looked at the iPods. They're all very shiny and fancy, but I thought: Why buy an iPod when I can buy a phone with an iPod inside? Why carry around two devices? I own a lot of portable music devices (MP3-players as they're called when they're not iPods), but I have to say it has been 3 years since I've used anyone of them. When I've wanted to listen to music, I have used my phone, my iPad or my laptop(netbook until recently Mac).

The best use I see for them is when you're exercising, where you require as small a device as possible.

I recon the use of portable music devices will decline in the coming ten years...
What do you think?



QuarterSwede
Jul 24, 2011, 10:05 AM
For those that can afford a monthly data plan they're obsolete. However, not everyone can.

flopticalcube
Jul 24, 2011, 10:15 AM
I don't see people no longer exercising. iPods may become more functional, the iPhone can be viewed as an iPod with a phone built in, but at the same time there may be a bit of a craving to be less connected occasionally (of course you could always turn off the phone part). It's a bit of toss up at the moment but your probably right, tiny iPhones in 10 years can do it all.

Btrthnezr3
Jul 24, 2011, 10:22 AM
But I still don't want to go jogging with my iPhone.
I'll take my shuffle, or even my nano over that any day. Less weight, less risk, less bulk...same music.

puma1552
Jul 24, 2011, 10:23 AM
I have an iPhone and I still carry an iPod when I want to listen to music.

Knoxifier
Jul 24, 2011, 10:25 AM
I have an iPhone and I still carry an iPod when I want to listen to music.

Always? I mean don't you feel it more convenient to just press the iPod "button" on your screen rather than picking up your iPod? I'm just curious :)

Moyank24
Jul 24, 2011, 10:30 AM
I carry both an iPod and iPhone as well. I don't even have any music on my iPhone anymore. I have a pro-clip set-up in my car, so I just slide my iPod in there and listen to music. The few times i've forgotten my iPod, I've plugged in my iPhone (when I had music on there), and without fail the phone rings...then I have to unplug and answer...it's just annoying. The iPod is just easier.

I also do a lot of biking, and have a speaker system set up on it. I use the iPod for that as well.

rdowns
Jul 24, 2011, 11:00 AM
I own an iPhone but still have 3 iPods. One stays in my car, 1 I use when bike riding and the other is just an old 3rd gen and my favorite ones ever. :D

Rawkfist
Jul 24, 2011, 11:05 AM
It's all about personal preference. Kinda like the boxers versus briefs debate. I just hope the powers that be at Apple see fit to keep the Classic and give it a few upgrades. That's my personal preference.

Apple OC
Jul 24, 2011, 11:18 AM
many people would not want to drain the battery on their phone using it as an iPod

also for younger folks who love music but do not want an iPhone ... therefore the iPod is not going away any time soon

kilcher
Jul 24, 2011, 11:57 AM
I have a 3GS and still take my iPod Classic in the car and to work every day. My reasons...

I have a 128GB iPod Classic. My 32GB iPhone will not hold all of my music. Until iCloud gets here and/or an iPhone w/ more storage there's no way around that.

I like the click wheel controls on my iPod better. When I'm driving it's easier to use the click wheel to skip a song or pause than it woud be on my iPhone (where I would have to take my eyes off the road).

I do have Ford Sync w/ voice control but haven't figured out a way to use it on podcasts, which is mainly what I listen to while driving.

I keep meaning to go down to one device (my iPhone) and really should, just haven't yet.

W/ the cloud, iPod Touch, and phones w/ more storage I do think iPod sales will drop and they'll become more of a niche device (like for people who exercise) but I don't see them going away anytime soon. The Classic maybe now that Apple can refer people who need more storage to the cloud.

thunderbunny
Jul 24, 2011, 12:01 PM
many people would not want to drain the battery on their phone using it as an iPod

that's me! iPod Touch for musica, iPhone for phoning and texting and iPad for, er, whatever's left. My iPod was my first foray into Apple since my Uni days and simply was for music while walking around town and at gym. Mostly walking. Led onto an expensive habit though.

Knoxifier
Jul 24, 2011, 12:30 PM
many people would not want to drain the battery on their phone using it as an iPod

also for younger folks who love music but do not want an iPhone ... therefore the iPod is not going away any time soon

Very good point.

My initial point was not that the iPod will go away, rather that it becomes more niched(as mentioned) and not as wide a gadget. I see a lot of people here use it in the car, and that the larger memory of the Classic is very useful as storing all your music on an iPhone would take up more space/would not suffice.

radiohed
Jul 24, 2011, 05:10 PM
I am not into cell phones or talking on the phone in general so I have no need for an iphone. I do love music and own several ipods. I don't see ipods going away anytime soon. :rolleyes:

alust2013
Jul 24, 2011, 05:16 PM
I prefer an iPod. I have an android phone, and actually do not want an iPhone. They are cool devices, but I just wouldn't want to use one. I like having a physical keyboard, less intrusive and more intelligent autocorrect, better battery life, 4G, unlimited data, better notifications, and I prefer to keep my entertainment and communication separate. I do love my touch though, I use it for 4-5 hours a day at work.

decafjava
Jul 24, 2011, 05:31 PM
Some good points but, isn't music one of the least battery draining things on the iphone? Also to the poster above-isn't unlimited data depend on the phone company not the type of phone?

I can see why some would prefer to keep music separate though.

Aldaris
Jul 24, 2011, 05:50 PM
Battery.

Some of us are nearly always connected one way or another.

rbrian
Jul 24, 2011, 07:39 PM
My 3GS battery lasted for 10 hours of music listening, and maybe 7 hours of simultaneous ebook reading on a train journey, with half a dozen texts; then a quick phone call when I got off the train, a dozen photos, and finally died a couple of hours later. That's pretty good, and is far more music than I'd get a chance to listen to in a normal day.

puma1552
Jul 25, 2011, 08:05 AM
I mean don't you feel it more convenient to just press the iPod "button" on your screen rather than picking up your iPod? I'm just curious :)

No, because I'm on an archaic 3G which is borderline inoperable thanks to bloated iOS4.X which is no good on the 3G.

That aside, no, because I wouldn't want to drain the battery life, but more importantly than anything, I loathe touchscreens. I can deal with it for an iPhone, but for my music player? No way, I play with it and change artists/songs way too much to want to hassle with the touchscreen all the time...it's why I sold my original iPod touch.

BurningJah
Jul 25, 2011, 12:33 PM
Always? I mean don't you feel it more convenient to just press the iPod "button" on your screen rather than picking up your iPod? I'm just curious :)

No an iPod is much more convenient. because you have your physical button where you can push on. And not those virtual.
example: when you are riding your bike and the iPod classic is in your pants you can push the skip button without taking it out of your pocket. With my iPhone I need to take it out unlock the screen and than push the button. so My classic is such a breeze with the "click wheel"

accessoriesguy
Jul 25, 2011, 01:22 PM
Apple knows this and continues to develop unique uses for the ipod's. I believe the ipod had the recording HD camera before iphone. They are also conveniently smaller, and work to push their latest technology out the gate faster.

Things like the ipod classic though show the progressive slow on this technological frontier. I am hoping for one last update for the ipod classic however.

Alaerian
Jul 25, 2011, 01:26 PM
iPod:
- touch feedback with physical buttons. Ideal for operation out of a pocket while walking or in cold weather.
- extremely long battery life
- 160GB of storage

My iPhone cannot compete with this, even with 32GB of storage.

OllyW
Jul 25, 2011, 01:32 PM
I've still got 3 iPods as well as the iPhone and they all still get a lot of use.

The iPhone doesn't have anything like enough storage capacity so my 160GB classic is still my main music source when I'm not at home.

Savor
Jul 26, 2011, 04:31 AM
I was lucky enough to get a brand new Palm Pixi Plus (AT&T model) from Craigslist for $60 and that currently plays music for me constantly. Only 10.9mm thick and only $10 more than what a Shuffle would cost. Only 8 GB, but nice to have it as a backup phone and mp3 player since my library is only 4 GB. Better to have a phone that can make calls than just a stand alone mp3 player. I think iPods will generally fade into a niche market like portable video game systems. I see people will just hand their older iPhones to their kids. iPhone + iPad + iPod touch/nano is just overkill to carry around sometimes.

I can see people enjoying their current iPods that they have now whether for exercise or saving battery, but this perspective is for FUTURE iPods. What is the point for them? And while some have like 200 GB of multimedia, it may not apply to 95% of the world. I had both an iPhone and iPod touch and the touch was the first to be sold because I started to realize how redundant it looked. Once older iPhones get handed down and become iPod touches to younger children, the iPod sales will continue to slow down. Everything runs its course and this is just the peaking sales of smartphones and tablets that is killing off the mp3 market.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/15/analysts-ipods-sales-expected-to-decline-7-2-year-over-year/?section=magazines_fortune

http://fortunebrainstormtech.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/screen-shot-2011-07-15-at-6-18-16-am.png?w=455&h=335

Knoxifier
Jul 26, 2011, 05:21 AM
Exactly. A nice example to compare iPods to portable gaming devices. A soon to become niched genre of devices that have specific uses rather. Also, as said above, some might have a media library of 120gb, but most of us don't and so that makes the iPod Classic unnecessary for most of the world. That's not to say it doesn't have its audience, but that audience is thinning out. The iPod with the widest audience has to be the Suffle thanks to its size and physical buttons.

Scepticalscribe
Jul 26, 2011, 06:37 AM
I've still got 3 iPods as well as the iPhone and they all still get a lot of use.

The iPhone doesn't have anything like enough storage capacity so my 160GB classic is still my main music source when I'm not at home.

Exactly; when I'm on long plane/train/bus journeys my iPod is a constant companion, as it is when I'm staying overseas for weeks or months at a time. And yes, I still like the classic, even though I have the iTouch (which is excellent, but, even now, I rarely use it for much else than music.)

Phones are usually supplied by whoever I am working with, and my MBA takes care of access to the internet, so, yes, the old style iPod is an invaluable (and much used) device, and one which I don't feel is obsolete.

Cheers

aery
Jul 26, 2011, 09:19 AM
No phone will hold as much music as my 160GB iPod classic. :)

millertime021
Jul 26, 2011, 02:39 PM
iPhone = 16GB-32GB

iPod Classic = 160GB

My iTunes library > 32 GB

Simple math. :cool:

TheSuperSteve
Jul 26, 2011, 06:32 PM
No phone will hold as much music as my 160GB iPod classic. :)

and no phone is as tiny and perfect for the gym as my iPod shuffle! :)

applefan289
Jul 26, 2011, 06:53 PM
and no phone is as tiny and perfect for the gym as my iPod shuffle! :)

iPod Shuffle FTW.

huck500
Jul 26, 2011, 06:58 PM
I'll always prefer to carry all my music with me, which means an iPod classic. Streaming only works if you have a connection, which is not always the case in the car, especially while off-roading.

So if Apple makes a 160 GB phone, sure. Until then, no.:)

applefan289
Jul 26, 2011, 07:08 PM
I'll always prefer to carry all my music with me, which means an iPod classic. Streaming only works if you have a connection, which is not always the case in the car, especially while off-roading.

So if Apple makes a 160 GB phone, sure. Until then, no.:)

Speaking of the car, an iPod is so annoying to use in the car. I have to look down and control it while driving.

IMO, CDs are still the most convenient, as much as I hate using them.

Maybe it would be better if I had a car that had special touch-screen iPod capability (where you could choose your song on the car's screen), but then I would still have to adjust the volume on the iPod itself, etc.

Ljohnson72
Jul 26, 2011, 08:45 PM
Speaking of the car, an iPod is so annoying to use in the car. I have to look down and control it while driving.

IMO, CDs are still the most convenient, as much as I hate using them.

Maybe it would be better if I had a car that had special touch-screen iPod capability (where you could choose your song on the car's screen), but then I would still have to adjust the volume on the iPod itself, etc.

If your car has a 30-pin connector you can control the volume through the car. I haven't touched my iPod Classic that is in my glovebox since I put it in there.

CHSeifert
Jul 27, 2011, 01:33 AM
and no phone is as tiny and perfect for the gym as my iPod shuffle! :)

I still say the shuffle will go before the Nano Touch. Nano Touch in the gym for the win ;)

TheGenerous
Jul 27, 2011, 01:41 AM
A Cowon or a Sansa has sound quality far superior to that of an iPod. You won't replace the music player with your iPhone (unless isn't an iPhone.)

boss.king
Jul 27, 2011, 03:14 AM
iPods are not as demanded as they used to be but they are far from obsolete. I still use my iPod nano for jogging.

Also, a lot of people can't justify the price of an iPhone when iPods cost so much less, my girlfriend has an iPod she uses when travelling and for when her iPad is too big.

There's still a huge market for these devices, including children, and those who don't need a fancy phone.
EDIT: I forgot about the benefits of the massive iPod classic, for those with big libraries

hexonxonx
Jul 27, 2011, 08:14 AM
Some good points but, isn't music one of the least battery draining things on the iphone? Also to the poster above-isn't unlimited data depend on the phone company not the type of phone?

I can see why some would prefer to keep music separate though.

Listening to music is one of the things that uses the least power on an iPhone. I've unplugged my phone from the charger and listened to music for an hour and the indicator still showed 100%.

I still bring both depending on what car I am using. If I am in the car I use for my job, I mostly use my iPhone 4 but occasionally bring my iPod Classic. My other car has a Pioneer DVD touch screen that has iPod integration built in and so I just keep my other Classic in there 24/7. I took that Classic out only once this past year to put new music on it.

I've been thinking myself that I will be very sad if the iPods go away which they will eventually I am sure. I will live however just using my iPhone.

B777Forevar
Jul 27, 2011, 08:51 AM
No way the iPod will be obsolete. I still see the Classic and the Shuffle still being relevant.

Drunken Master
Jul 27, 2011, 10:28 AM
That would be hasty if they phase it out.

I personally like to use my nano sometimes when running. I don't want to use my iPhone when I exercise.

Dagless
Jul 27, 2011, 11:57 AM
Price. The initial iPod cost is a bit more than an iPhone (well, depending on the model) but that's the only price you pay. And there's no subscription or network charges.

I'll be sticking with an iPod+"random phone of the time" until the iPod is dead.

szolr
Jul 27, 2011, 01:15 PM
I still say the shuffle will go before the Nano Touch. Nano Touch in the gym for the win ;)

Perhaps now would be an appropriate time to point out the cost difference between a shuffle and a nano... Until that cost difference drops considerably, the Shuffle isn't going anywhere imho.

My iTunes music library is a meagre 5 GB. My movies and TV shows total over 120 GB. But, whatever Jobs says about how good the Retina display is, I'm not storing my whole film library on my iPhone to watch. That's what I got a nice big TV and an :apple:TV2 for... So the way I see it, the iPod classic is on the way out, followed by the shuffle. I can't see further than that. Any further speculation is kind of overdoing it imho.

CHSeifert
Jul 27, 2011, 01:41 PM
Perhaps now would be an appropriate time to point out the cost difference between a shuffle and a nano... Until that cost difference drops considerably, the Shuffle isn't going anywhere imho.

My iTunes music library is a meagre 5 GB. My movies and TV shows total over 120 GB. But, whatever Jobs says about how good the Retina display is, I'm not storing my whole film library on my iPhone to watch. That's what I got a nice big TV and an :apple:TV2 for... So the way I see it, the iPod classic is on the way out, followed by the shuffle. I can't see further than that. Any further speculation is kind of overdoing it imho.

When I look into the crystal ball here us what I see :

1. Shuffle and Nano Touch merged into one unit with a price in the middle of the units for an 8 GB version WITH touch screen :)
Largest Nano Touch will have 32 GB in next version.

A music player without a screen is so last decade in my view.

2. The next iPod Touch largest model will have 128 GB thus sending the iPod classic into execution in the guillotine ;)

3. Next iPhone release will have 64 GB in the largest model, which means my last motive for getting an iPod larger in physical size than the Nano Touch is gone. I still need a small sized iPod with a display for the gym, because gym & fitness and a large delicate touch screen is NO GO !

The NanoTouch 16 GB is my perfect companion in the gym. Even when I drop it still is so light it hangs on to the end of my earphone cord !

TheSuperSteve
Jul 27, 2011, 09:32 PM
I still say the shuffle will go before the Nano Touch. Nano Touch in the gym for the win ;)

Well i've never owned a 6th generation nano so i wouldn't know about that. Is it easy to change tracks without looking? :confused:

I clip the shuffle on my pants. Sometimes when i do Bent Over Dumbbell Rows i like to change tracks by hitting the buttons on the shuffle with my fist between reps. That and because the gym is not exactly a place where i would take something really expensive. You know, heavy weights and all. I dont want a 150$ device crushed by accident. :confused:

CHSeifert
Jul 27, 2011, 10:10 PM
Well i've never owned a 6th generation nano so i wouldn't know about that. Is it easy to change tracks without looking? :confused:

I clip the shuffle on my pants. Sometimes when i do Bent Over Dumbbell Rows i like to change tracks by hitting the buttons on the shuffle with my fist between reps. That and because the gym is not exactly a place where i would take something really expensive. You know, heavy weights and all. I dont want a 150$ device crushed by accident. :confused:

You go to next track by hitting the sleep/wake button on top of the NanoTouch twice :)

If I drop weights on my NanoTouch I will drop it on myself because I have the NanoTouch 'clipsed' to my polo ;)

I just prefer to carry most of my personal 5 starred music collection with me to the gym - and for that I need 16 GB or more and a display where I can change to a track further down the playlist without having to press 'next track' for a long time - like I would have had to on a shuffle.

Different strokes for different folks :p

TheSuperSteve
Jul 27, 2011, 10:26 PM
You go to next track by hitting the sleep/wake button on top of the NanoTouch twice :)

If I drop weights on my NanoTouch I will drop it on myself because I have the NanoTouch 'clipsed' to my polo ;)

I just prefer to carry most of my personal 5 starred music collection with me to the gym - and for that I need 16 GB or more and a display where I can change to a track further down the playlist without having to press 'next track' for a long time - like I would have had to on a shuffle.

Different strokes for different folks :p

Oh i see! You know, i've been meaning to pick one up but i've just havent been able to justify the purchase when the shuffle works well for me so far! :)

If the September updates to the nano are good enough, i might just pick one up anyways! If only for the bigger storage. Gets kinda old having to resync different playlists on the shuffle sometimes, i admit!

My only issue with these things on the gym is the cable on the headphones! I dont know what to do with the cord to keep it out of the way but put it under my shirt. But then i get sweaty and the headphone cord gets all nasty and... yeah you get it! I want wireless headphones! If the 7th gen nano has that then i would pick one up on day one! XD

blairh
Aug 7, 2011, 04:02 PM
Selling my iPod Classic and will only use my iPhone from now on for my music on the go needs. Even at the gym. I know others are doing the same too and this will only continue stronger as future iPhone's have larger storage capacities.

tblrsa
Aug 17, 2011, 02:24 AM
My Classic is the only device, aside from my Macbook, which is capable of holding all my Music and Audio Books (about 100 Gigabytes). Not even thinking about selling my good old iPod Classic 120 Gigabyte. Quite the opposite really. As my library grows, I will consider exchanging the device with the 160 Gigabyte Model.

The only downside is the HDD, which does not allow me to heavily use the Classic while exercising.

I understand the iPod Classic is not for everyone. Bear in mind though that it has its users and those people know very well why they purchased this iPod in the first place.

King Alekay
Aug 21, 2011, 09:35 AM
'Ipods to be obsolete?' My Answer: Hell no!!

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I want wireless headphones!
Wireless headphones or earphones? Because if your talking earphones than the only pair I know of are these pair that are made by Sennheiser. I guess they would be all right for working out but not much else, you can only listen to them for 3 hours on a full charge and then you have to recharge them.