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MacRumors
Jul 27, 2011, 05:00 PM
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The introduction of the iPhone on Verizon contributed a healthy number of iPhone sales, but it was nothing compared to what non-US carriers delivered for Apple.

Horace Dediu at Asymco put together a few charts (http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/27/the-verizon-small-bang/) to illustrate just how big the non-US sales were:

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The yellow line indicates Verizon's 4.5 million iPhone users, while the green line shows AT&T's slight slowdown in sales as the iPhone 4 matured (though even that doesn't show a very steep drop off).

By far the biggest impact is the sales by the rest of the world -- so big was that growth, Dediu points out (http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/27/the-verizon-small-bang/), that "had Verizon not come on board the business would still have grown year-on-year over 100% (and sequentially)."



Article Link: Most iPhone Growth From Overseas, Verizon a "Small Bang" (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/27/most-iphone-growth-from-overseas-verizon-a-small-bang/)



Frosties
Jul 27, 2011, 05:15 PM
In black and white then to Apple: Stop delaying iPhone 5 because of a Verizon phone, it's bad business.

everydave
Jul 27, 2011, 05:23 PM
In black and white then to Apple: Stop delaying iPhone 5 because of a Verizon phone, it's bad business.

Hrm...you sure it's because of the Verizon iPhone? This article pretty much paints, in black in white (so to speak), that the Verizon iPhone is only a very small part of overall sales. Basing the delay on that the Verizon iPhone seems like the *least* likely explaination for the delay.

Rumors will always be rampant and we may never know why they decided to shift delivery to the traditional iPod release time, but that might answer the question in and of itself. Or it's for some other reason entirely.

But by all means, feel free to call Apple on the carpet for "bad business" based on speculation and rumor, I mean they're not doing so good with running the business as it is, I'm sure your help would be appreciated...:rolleyes:

danmills8
Jul 27, 2011, 05:27 PM
looks like Verizon needs to tell their salespeople to start pushing the iPhone more instead of all that Android crap. :apple:

Shrink
Jul 27, 2011, 05:27 PM
Hrm...you sure it's because of the Verizon iPhone? This article pretty much paints, in black in white (so to speak), that the Verizon iPhone is only a very small part of overall sales. Basing the delay on that the Verizon iPhone seems like the *least* likely explaination for the delay.

Rumors will always be rampant and we may never know why they decided to shift delivery to the traditional iPod release time, but that might answer the question in and of itself. Or it's for some other reason entirely.

But by all means, feel free to call Apple on the carpet for "bad business" based on speculation and rumor, I mean they're not doing so good with running the business as it is, I'm sure your help would be appreciated...:rolleyes:



Perhaps we should hold a benefit dance for Apple. Or all just send in some donations to keep them afloat. :rolleyes:

*LTD*
Jul 27, 2011, 05:34 PM
Still great news. Here's to overseas growth, then!

rbrian
Jul 27, 2011, 05:37 PM
Apple have seen where most of the growth is, and it's only going to grow more as they open iTunes stores in more countries. The world is much bigger than America!

peteitude
Jul 27, 2011, 05:43 PM
Is Verizon iOS on 4.3 yet?

kdarling
Jul 27, 2011, 05:54 PM
If Apple had introduced the Verizon model before the end of 2009, its sales could've been almost 1/3 of the world total.

However, Apple's extra long exclusive with AT&T allowed the Droids free reign at Verizon for over a year, and let Android (and HTC) get a solid foothold in America.

So... where are the latest Sprint iPhone rumors? Anything? :)

Adidas Addict
Jul 27, 2011, 05:56 PM
Hold on, so you're saying there's a market outside the USA? :eek:

nylonsteel
Jul 27, 2011, 06:10 PM
1) re: the spurt of growth overseas
its called - "the fake apple store effect"
2) love the name "horace dediu"

nylonsteel
Jul 27, 2011, 06:13 PM
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Perhaps we should hold a benefit dance for Apple. Or all just send in some donations to keep them afloat. :rolleyes:

yes aapl has been floating very well on thier 75 BILLION in cash

mrelwood
Jul 27, 2011, 07:34 PM
Does the Visual Voicemail work anywhere else than in the US?

nateo200
Jul 27, 2011, 07:35 PM
In black and white then to Apple: Stop delaying iPhone 5 because of a Verizon phone, it's bad business.

Please don't act like an idiot. :eek: I KNOW your better than that. ;):apple:

Rocketman
Jul 27, 2011, 07:36 PM
CDMA is a "dimming flicker in time and space". :D

Darwing
Jul 27, 2011, 08:19 PM
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Wait let me get this straight, the USA isn't the entire world? U mean that there are other countries out there with more people that actually would have a bigger impact on an American company then the actual united states??!!!

This is blowing my mind, I figured the only thing that mattered was what happened with AT&T and Verizon...

Mitchelino
Jul 27, 2011, 10:45 PM
Does the Visual Voicemail work anywhere else than in the US?

Yes, Canada. Probably others as well.

mdriftmeyer
Jul 27, 2011, 11:24 PM
I'll subtract one from Verizon when the iPhone 5 arrives. And I'm not interested in US Sprint. I'll move over to AT&T.

the8thark
Jul 28, 2011, 12:59 AM
Verizon iPhone sales are only a small part of total worldwide sales. But how much importance does Apple place on these sales? The US is one of the only countries that did not until recently have multi carrier support. And I think Apple wanted to rectify this situation.

So I think the Verizon sales were important to bring the US inline with the rest of the world to be multi carrier. Cause carriers fighting over your iPhone plan dollars is cheaper plans in the end. And that makes the iPhone more attractive to buy.

OllyW
Jul 28, 2011, 04:00 AM
Does the Visual Voicemail work anywhere else than in the US?

It works on O2 but not on any of the other networks in the UK.

Espionage32
Jul 28, 2011, 07:48 AM
The Amount of people with iphone 4's in Tokyo was amazing this last time I was there. So this definitely makes sense.

London Lad
Jul 28, 2011, 07:52 AM
This news is hardly surprising when you consider that 95% of people DON'T live in the USA and that the West is in recession!

wovel
Jul 28, 2011, 09:35 AM
In black and white then to Apple: Stop delaying iPhone 5 because of a Verizon phone, it's bad business.

The iPhone still appears to be the best selling phone in the world, why interrupt that? Beside, having iPhone 5 release with all the new feature of IOS5 will create a much bigger impact.

EvilEvil
Jul 28, 2011, 11:06 AM
CDMA is a "dimming flicker in time and space". :D

Won't matter with LTE.

peteitude
Jul 28, 2011, 11:15 AM
I see a lot more androids these days than I used to. I think times are changing, although I don't think Apple will be hurting any time soon.

djgamble
Jul 28, 2011, 04:37 PM
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This shows how little we international users cared about a special phone for Verison!!!!!

It also proves my Lion point that if you can crack markets OUTSIDE the USA then Apple has a LOOOOOT more potential customers. Eat your humble pie all the yanks who attacked me on that point!