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VMMan
Aug 7, 2011, 06:36 PM
This MBA 11" is so mobile, I'm always wanting to use it during times I normally would not be carrying a laptop.

Today at church, I thought about breaking out the MBA... I know. I didn't do it, but I thought about it.

I even asked my wife if I can use it during a boring get together with my wife's friends, but she said, "no".

A few years ago, it would have been unheard of for people to be using their cell phones ALL the time, but wherever I go, I always see people glued to their cell phones to check email, surf, etc.

Unfortunately, breaking out the MBA would seem to be less socially acceptable.

Do you guys/gals ever use your MBAs in situations where others (especially your significant other) frowns upon it?



_Matt
Aug 7, 2011, 06:46 PM
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My girlfriend always catches me in bed with my MacBook Pro. It's tough to explain.

I wish I had an 11" MacBook Air. Then I could just hide it under the mattress and wait until she falls asleep.

Travisimo
Aug 7, 2011, 07:48 PM
I've been bringing my iPad 2 during church service ever since it came out. I use the Bible Reader app and it's much nicer being able to jump to verses, make bookmarks, etc. I would not, however, take a MBA during the main service. For a Bible Study or something other than the main worship service, I would have no problem taking my Air.

old-wiz
Aug 7, 2011, 09:07 PM
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My girlfriend always catches me in bed with my MacBook Pro. It's tough to explain.


Hopefully not when she is .......

Aldaris
Aug 7, 2011, 09:44 PM
Use my iPad all the time, have taught lessons via keynote in the past as well.

DustinT
Aug 7, 2011, 10:08 PM
Ya, a tablet or smart phone is one thing and becoming more acceptable as time passes. Well, at least it is if you live in a moderately progressive area. A laptop, even one as discrete as a MBA would attract a lot more attention. I wouldn't do it.

mac jones
Aug 7, 2011, 10:21 PM
It's ok. Unless your name is Adam ;)

h00ligan
Aug 7, 2011, 11:09 PM
I'd have no issues whipping it out in church.

Surely there's some panic took like for Facebook where you can make the internet look like jesus teachings.

onthecouchagain
Aug 7, 2011, 11:22 PM
It's okay, gods do not exist. Use your Apple products as you wish in church. :cool:

mac jones
Aug 7, 2011, 11:26 PM
It's okay, gods do not exist. Use your Apple products as you wish in church. :cool:

It's not the gods who will strike you dead for they are but in the mind, and can do one no harm ;). It is the crazy followers that will be the offended, and who will follow you home and curse your life in general.

Trust me on this :D

Apple OC
Aug 7, 2011, 11:27 PM
perfectly fine to use in church ... God will not judge you.

The only ones who will judge you are all the judgemental people around you who go to church

notjustjay
Aug 7, 2011, 11:41 PM
I think the real question here is "when is it socially acceptable to use a laptop in public places". I don't think I would have a problem taking out a laptop while sitting in church if I was using it for related purposes -- like taking notes or pulling up an electronic Bible. I wouldn't, however, start opening Facebook or other non-related websites -- that would simply be rude and distracting to those around. It's also sending the wrong impression to any youngsters who might be watching.

Churches and communities certainly vary, though, and what's appropriate or not for one congregation may not be at all for another. If one is truly anxious, then ask an usher, or see what others are doing and follow suit.

And to those making the smart remarks, it has nothing to do with what you believe. Whether or not you believe in Heaven or Hell or any afterlife, you still wouldn't take out your laptop during someone's funeral... nor would you do so at a wedding or at the movies.

designgeek
Aug 8, 2011, 12:06 AM
With great portability comes great responsibility.

misterneums
Aug 8, 2011, 12:48 AM
With great portability comes great responsibility.

I definitely lol'd on this one.

macrat
Aug 8, 2011, 12:51 AM
I think the real question here is "when is it socially acceptable to use a laptop in public places". I don't think I would have a problem taking out a laptop while sitting in church if I was using it for related purposes -- like taking notes or pulling up an electronic Bible. I wouldn't, however, start opening Facebook or other non-related websites -- that would simply be rude and distracting to those around. It's also sending the wrong impression to any youngsters who might be watching.


Not sure what the OP had in mind about using his Air in Church but if it is not to take notes during the sermon or read the bible, I wouldn't understand at all what he is doing in church to begin with.

I've seen a number of Pastors using laptops and specially iPads while delivering their sermons (instead of using handwritten notes), so why not the congregation?

miamialley
Aug 8, 2011, 01:37 AM
Just don't go to church and the problem is solved.

alecgold
Aug 8, 2011, 02:43 AM
Just don't go to church and the problem is solved.

Hehehe, that's very logic a solution.

OT, I use my iPhone a lot, it has a pdf of the bible, and sometimes I use my iPad as well. But the iPad gets way more noticed and I don't like that. It's a rather large PDF naturally, but it works quite well to my surprise. And if I want I can read the text in several translations.

Why would you need a MBA? I know how hard it can be to leave it for an hour/hour and half in it's sleeve if you can't concentrate on the sermon. But try to concentrate a bit more, or do like Miamialley said, just don't go.

rhinosrcool
Aug 8, 2011, 03:16 AM
It's not the gods who will strike you dead for they are but in the mind, and can do one no harm ;). It is the crazy followers that will be the offended, and who will follow you home and curse your life in general.

Trust me on this :D

Sounds like Apple fanbois...

misterneums
Aug 8, 2011, 03:57 AM
Sounds like Apple fanbois...

Similar, however we are vastly more intelligent that the bible pushing south. (If you are offended, I apologize as it's 4 AM and I'm not the most coherent at this point in the night.)

TC25
Aug 8, 2011, 05:13 AM
Similar, however we are vastly more intelligent that the bible pushing south. (If you are offended, I apologize as it's 4 AM and I'm not the most coherent at this point in the night.)

You'd think someone who fancies themselves 'vastly more intelligent that [sic] the bible pushing south' would know better than to post when you're 'not the most coherent'. :rolleyes:

You're also vastly more bigoted.

trondah
Aug 8, 2011, 05:50 AM
I even asked my wife if I can use it during a boring get together with my wife's friends, but she said, "no".

Why did you ask permission in the first place? Sounds like you need to man up. I can't help but wonder why you're at a (boring) get together with her friends, if her friends didn't bring husbands why did you have to go? Does she keep you on a leash? This thread should be titled "my wife controls me, what to do" lol. I guess people who go to church aren't the type to make their own decicions in the first place.

notjustjay
Aug 8, 2011, 11:56 AM
Sometimes we're sitting in places that we'd rather not be in, and sometimes the thing to do is to shut up and be quiet. Whether that's a boring sermon, or a council meeting, or a wedding, or a funeral, or a lecture at school, or maybe you're watching a movie or show with some friends and you're really just not enjoying it. It doesn't matter. If you feel the situation warrants a "forget this, I'm leaving", then go for it -- but if not, there are times you just need to tough it out.

That's a skill that needs to be learned, and increasingly people are finding it more difficult, especially when a solution -- a lovely electronic distraction -- is sitting right there in your pocket.

YEEZY
Aug 8, 2011, 12:07 PM
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My girlfriend always catches me in bed with my MacBook Pro. It's tough to explain.

I wish I had an 11" MacBook Air. Then I could just hide it under the mattress and wait until she falls asleep.

"Is that a Macbook Air in your pants or you just happy to see me"

but it's just like how the iPad became so prominent and people are bringing them everywhere. Even at concerts while in crowds. So you can judge for yourself how silly it is and if it's situation-appropriate.

NurJahan
Aug 8, 2011, 01:47 PM
Why did you ask permission in the first place? Sounds like you need to man up. I can't help but wonder why you're at a (boring) get together with her friends, if her friends didn't bring husbands why did you have to go? Does she keep you on a leash? This thread should be titled "my wife controls me, what to do" lol. I guess people who go to church aren't the type to make their own decicions in the first place.

Sounds like someone's making more assumptions than warranted. Please organize your thoughts before posting.
Like someone said before me, you just have to tough it out sometimes at places where whipping out electronics is rude.

adnoh
Aug 8, 2011, 01:56 PM
Apple....just do it.

oh wait thats Nike....

:o

trondah
Aug 9, 2011, 05:43 AM
Sounds like someone's making more assumptions than warranted. Please organize your thoughts before posting.
Like someone said before me, you just have to tough it out sometimes at places where whipping out electronics is rude.

No assumptions really, maybe you should read the OP again?

A. He finds church so boring that he wants to use his MBA, but he doesn't because his signifant other will "frown upon it".
B. He attends to another boring meeting, this time with his wife's friends (he specifically says her friends, not his). This time she denies him to even bring his MBA. He even cites her saying "no", he's clearly not happy with that answer.

Looking at these two points, it's a safe assumption to say that his wife controls him, he says so himself.

This is a public discussion forum, so if he posts these things I'm allowed to express my opinion.

Personally I think he should skip both church and the friends meeting. If he'd rather sit on his MBA, that's what he should be doing. What's the point of being there if he's not going to participate? I'm gonna go ahead and assume it's to avoid a fight with the wife, because that's pretty much what he says.

Fight the power! First they wanted equal rights, now they want full control :p

jljue
Aug 9, 2011, 06:41 AM
Although our IT Director at church is pretty restrictive over wifi usage, out Worship Technology Director wants to create a "connected" zone in the sanctuary with easy access to outlets and to make it socially acceptable to cross-reference and look up more info on what the preacher is saying during the sermon. I'm usually on my 15" MBP during church to look at Planning Center and to offline edit our lighting program from an ASCII file that I will import during the sermon or between the contemporary and traditional services, but I'm technical working. I don't necessarily think that Internet usage should be policed at church--if you have a problem of needing to play games, Facebook, or look at porn during the sermon, then you might need to find a more interesting preacher or have a heart to heart with God.

yetanotherdave
Aug 9, 2011, 06:53 AM
Hehehe, that's very logic a solution.

OT, I use my iPhone a lot, it has a pdf of the bible, and sometimes I use my iPad as well. But the iPad gets way more noticed and I don't like that. It's a rather large PDF naturally, but it works quite well to my surprise. And if I want I can read the text in several translations.

Why would you need a MBA? I know how hard it can be to leave it for an hour/hour and half in it's sleeve if you can't concentrate on the sermon. But try to concentrate a bit more, or do like Miamialley said, just don't go.

A PDF? Ouch!!! That must be a nightmare to find your way around.

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/bible/id282935706?mt=8

there you go, several different translations, searchable, bookmark able, free.

b-rad g
Aug 9, 2011, 07:11 AM
I have my 13" MBA at church all the time, but that's because I'm usually on the lighting console.

ZipZap
Aug 9, 2011, 08:31 AM
The church is the last place where fear keeps rudeness at bay so enjoy it.

I wish we could somehow get the fear of rudeness into the movie theaters. I miss the days when you could go and not be bothered by rude people.

misterneums
Aug 9, 2011, 09:20 AM
The church is the last place where fear keeps rudeness at bay so enjoy it.

I wish we could somehow get the fear of rudeness into the movie theaters. I miss the days when you could go and not be bothered by rude people.

The past three times I've gone to the movies I've had obnoxiously loud people nearby me. I didn't say anything to them, but I definitely wasn't thinking very nice thoughts towards them.

mac jones
Aug 9, 2011, 09:48 AM
Let's all hold 'virtual' hands and sing songs, shall we :)

After me......"Jesus.....Jesus.....(and on like this) ......."

notjustjay
Aug 9, 2011, 10:03 AM
I'm usually on my 15" MBP during church to look at Planning Center and to offline edit our lighting program from an ASCII file that I will import during the sermon or between the contemporary and traditional services, but I'm technical working. I don't necessarily think that Internet usage should be policed at church--if you have a problem of needing to play games, Facebook, or look at porn during the sermon, then you might need to find a more interesting preacher or have a heart to heart with God.

I'll sometimes be working on tech during the service too. I sort of agree that we shouldn't be policing, however, there are always those who are going to abuse the privilege. If you were to visit my service on a typical Sunday morning you'd see that the back row is occupied by a line of junior high age boys, each with an iPod touch. They're playing Bluetooth-linked games or competing against each other in Angry Birds or whatever. I don't think I'd want to see what would happen if we opened up the WiFi to them!

I sit in that row sometimes. Once, we were all looking at some game on my iPad. I thought it was fairly harmless since it was keeping them quiet and occupied. Some of the ushers didn't agree :o

misterneums
Aug 9, 2011, 10:11 AM
This thread just seems crazy.

ZipZap
Aug 9, 2011, 02:02 PM
If you convert to Judaism then the guilt is a normal part of the experience and your free to experience it.

YEEZY
Aug 9, 2011, 02:06 PM
Tough subject. Depends on the church no? Sometimes they just want you to be devout followers and give your absolute attention, but really, some others are not always that strict.

TC25
Aug 9, 2011, 02:18 PM
Today at church, I thought about breaking out the MBA... I know. I didn't do it, but I thought about it.

I even asked my wife if I can use it during a boring get together with my wife's friends, but she said, "no".

A few years ago, it would have been unheard of for people to be using their cell phones ALL the time, but wherever I go, I always see people glued to their cell phones to check email, surf, etc.

Unfortunately, breaking out the MBA would seem to be less socially acceptable.

Do you guys/gals ever use your MBAs in situations where others (especially your significant other) frowns upon it?

Why you are breaking out your MBA is more important than where.

Breaking out your MBA, cell phone, iPad, iPhone because you are bored is a low/no class move. Your wife is trying to prevent your host from discovering this about you.

jdechko
Aug 9, 2011, 02:51 PM
I think it depends on the situation. Obviously there are more conservative churches and more liberal ones as well (I'm not talking about theology, but the style of church). My wife and I go to a fairly liberal/progressive style church where technology is an integral part of the service. The pastor has his notes on an iPad, while his wife takes notes on a white MacBook. Several other members, my wife and I included, constantly use our phones to follow along with the scriptures and take sermon notes.

Technology has replaced traditional pen and paper in a lot of places, but the appearance of being on an electronic device is still controversial in some settings. Distractions have always been possible with pen/paper (games, notes, etc), and the electronic devices are just the natural progression. I guess my point is to be respectful and don't be rude about it.

VMMan
Aug 9, 2011, 06:01 PM
Well, I read everybody's replies to my original post, and I've decided to give myself a negative vote. :(

iSaint
Aug 9, 2011, 06:04 PM
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iRun26.2
Aug 9, 2011, 08:53 PM
This thread just seems crazy.

To me, this is one of the most interesting threads I have read in a long time.

haruhiko
Aug 9, 2011, 08:59 PM
This MBA 11" is so mobile, I'm always wanting to use it during times I normally would not be carrying a laptop.

Today at church, I thought about breaking out the MBA... I know. I didn't do it, but I thought about it.

I even asked my wife if I can use it during a boring get together with my wife's friends, but she said, "no".

A few years ago, it would have been unheard of for people to be using their cell phones ALL the time, but wherever I go, I always see people glued to their cell phones to check email, surf, etc.

Unfortunately, breaking out the MBA would seem to be less socially acceptable.

Do you guys/gals ever use your MBAs in situations where others (especially your significant other) frowns upon it?It's better to use an iPad for your purpose.

h00ligan
Aug 9, 2011, 09:23 PM
Correct. Jesus is much more of an iOS guy.

NurJahan
Aug 10, 2011, 07:24 AM
No assumptions really, maybe you should read the OP again?

A. He finds church so boring that he wants to use his MBA, but he doesn't because his signifant other will "frown upon it".
B. He attends to another boring meeting, this time with his wife's friends (he specifically says her friends, not his). This time she denies him to even bring his MBA. He even cites her saying "no", he's clearly not happy with that answer.

Looking at these two points, it's a safe assumption to say that his wife controls him, he says so himself.

This is a public discussion forum, so if he posts these things I'm allowed to express my opinion.

Personally I think he should skip both church and the friends meeting. If he'd rather sit on his MBA, that's what he should be doing. What's the point of being there if he's not going to participate? I'm gonna go ahead and assume it's to avoid a fight with the wife, because that's pretty much what he says.

Fight the power! First they wanted equal rights, now they want full control :p

You assume:
1. he finds church boring (because he wants to break out his MBA. Perhaps he wants to take notes or use a bible app?)
2. his wife is controlling (because she said "no" and because he is hanging out with his wife's friends in this one instance. Perhaps it was his first time hanging out with them?)

This thread is silly. OP is just talking about whether the MBA is socially acceptable for its portability, like an iphone or ipad. Now people are just bashing religion. IMO, the MBA is an overkill to be bringing it out at social gatherings because it has a full keyboard. Keyboards usually make a click-clack noise that can be disturbing.

cleric
Aug 10, 2011, 07:44 AM
TIL Worship Technology Director is an actual job title.