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MacRumors
Aug 10, 2011, 08:34 AM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-2-500x211.jpg

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Last month, we saw a leak (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/26/new-case-designs-revive-unlikely-iphone-5-design/) of the design specification which claimed to be for the iPhone 5. Chinese case manufacturers seem to be betting on that design as they've already started producing cases (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/27/photos-of-purported-iphone-5-case-based-on-latest-design-claims-surface/) based on that design document. We'd even requested and received some early renders (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/29/a-couple-of-iphone-5-design-mockups/) based on the case designs.

Given how predictive the case designs have been in the past, we commissioned CiccareseDesign (http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/) to create high quality renderings made as closely as possible to the original leaked case designs. Measurements were taken against the original case design leaks, and then imported into 3D modeling software.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/case-500x319.jpg


The designs show manufacturers what areas need to be open or exposed for cases, but reveal little else. In the past, this has caused some misunderstandings about future features. iPad 2 cases (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/18/latest-ipad-2-cases-show-two-new-ports/) seemed to suggest an extra port at the top of the device, but that turned out to be a space for a microphone hole. Similarly, there are a few areas on the iPhone 5 case designs that are open to interpretation. Click on the images for a larger view.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-11-500x231.jpg

(http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-11.jpg)
The elongated hole for the home button has suggested that the home button may itself also become more oval in shape. That is the direction our designer took as well. It's also possible, however, that the home button will retain its round shape and Apple has simply allowed extra space for swiping across the home button in a left to right or right to left manner. These's been some speculation that Apple could allow such a gesture for users to quickly switch between multitasking apps.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-4-500x375.jpg

(http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-4.jpg)
The exact screen size is another aspect that was hard to determine on the design drawings alone. Our renderings have enlarged the screen size to the space shown on the case designs. But, Apple has introduced a "swipe down" from the top of the screen notification system in iOS 5 that could benefit from some extra finger-space near the top of the screen in order to properly register. So, it may be that the screen isn't quite as large as depicted by the cases, and simply Apple allowing for extra space for these swipes. The representation here, however, does show a 4 inch screen which preserves Apple's current screen ratio. Rumors have suggested that Apple may be enlarging the screen size in the upcoming iPhone models.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-3-500x375.jpg

(http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-3.jpg)

The back of the device has tapered edges which makes it look much closer to the iPod touch. As well, there had been rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/07/iphone-5-to-get-aluminum-backing-redesigned-antenna/) that Apple would be abandoning the glass backing of the iPhone 4 and instead moving back to an aluminum design.

The final dimensions of the new design are calculated to be: 4.33" x 2.36" and .27" thickness at the top and .21" at the bottom In comparison, the iPhone 4 dimensions are: 4.5" x 2.31" x .37". So the new design is actually shorter than the existing iPhone 4, but slightly wider and thinner.

Assuming the leaked case designs are accurate, the iPhone 5 should be close in appearance to these renderings. The iPhone 5 is expected to be released in September or October of this year.

Article Link: This Could Be What Apple's iPhone 5 Looks Like (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/10/this-could-be-what-apples-iphone-5-looks-like/)



ImNoSuperMan
Aug 10, 2011, 08:38 AM
I havent bought an iPhone since 2g (mostly coz apple waits almost a year before releasing it here) but if it looks anything like this, I'll HAVE to find a way and get this thing any which way possible :o

7o7munoz7o7
Aug 10, 2011, 08:38 AM
I hope this is not what it really will look like......because if so im going to spend a lot of money to get that damn phone out of contract!!!!!!!

MIDI_EVIL
Aug 10, 2011, 08:38 AM
Wow, hopefully.

Beautiful.

I'm fed up with the lack of innovative Apps on Android...

ABG
Aug 10, 2011, 08:39 AM
Nice. Let's hope :cool:

troop231
Aug 10, 2011, 08:39 AM
Yay! I was wondering when we we're going to get another iPhone 5 rumor, it's been almost a week! :D So excited for the new design if it turns out to be true.

Carlson-online
Aug 10, 2011, 08:39 AM
if it had the same backas an ipad2 - awesome!

wtmk81
Aug 10, 2011, 08:40 AM
Looks good, if that's what it is sign me up.

mostlydave
Aug 10, 2011, 08:40 AM
I'll take one of each color to replace the 2 currently on my plan!!

b-rad g
Aug 10, 2011, 08:40 AM
If this is what the next iPhone is, then I'll be an early upgrader for sure!!

nerdo
Aug 10, 2011, 08:40 AM
Sexaaay, would even pay full price if this is real. If this doesn't get them pas EXXON, I dunno what will.

Let's hope the iPad3 is going to be this cool looking too. Edge to edge screens are so cool, poor people in SciFi land got another thing made reality in their lifetime.

Only thing that does surprise me is that Apple has not come up with a touch surface on the back of any of the devices. Perhaps in the real world it is not practical.

Chupa Chupa
Aug 10, 2011, 08:41 AM
What's the chance that what these unauthorized case makers think is the next iPhone is really the next iPod Touch? Now, I know what you are thinking -- there is a speaker on the front of the case. VOIP Phone.

Burke Hamblin
Aug 10, 2011, 08:41 AM
I still don't get why they'd taper it on one side, but these renders are consistent with the "Apple reduction" that occurs with each successive device generation.

As long as it's relatively light, speedy, and durable (and hopefully with 64 GB option), I'm in to upgrade from my chattering 3GS.

Blue Sun
Aug 10, 2011, 08:42 AM
I'm really liking that larger screen... if thats what the new iPhone is going to look like, bring it on!

Dr McKay
Aug 10, 2011, 08:42 AM
I really don't like the look of that Home button, and I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones.

If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap, I'd prefer to have the thickness of the iPhone 4 and have a better battery inside.

I do love the idea of a bigger screen though.

TheSuperSteve
Aug 10, 2011, 08:42 AM
I'm sorry but that looks absolutely hideous.

fkhan3
Aug 10, 2011, 08:43 AM
Nice work! I'll take one :D

ri0ku
Aug 10, 2011, 08:43 AM
That looks hideous :S and I really doubt the home button will change at all.

ELScorcho9
Aug 10, 2011, 08:44 AM
I don't think they're going to put a 4 inch screen. Maybe the extra screen space is for those LED lights that go near the edge of the screen. Wasn't there a patent for something like that not too long ago?

dalvin200
Aug 10, 2011, 08:44 AM
that is gorgeous! *faints*

aeaglex07
Aug 10, 2011, 08:44 AM
really nice, elegant design.

Can't wait! :D

Zepaw
Aug 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
Wouldn't your hand/thumb keep hitting the screen? Visually I like it but I feel like I would register a lot of accidental touches if I don't hold it carefully.

baleensavage
Aug 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
As long as they don't go back to a shiny metal back on the iPhone, it looks nice, though I like the iPhone 4 design a little better than the tapered iPod design.

tcphoto
Aug 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
It looks great, a smaller version of the iPad2 with metal back. I am eligible for an upgrade and ready to enter my CC number!

ablack774
Aug 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
That design looks really nice. Hopefully it looks something like this.

One question though, Why in all the mock ups is the home button oblong? I think that the home buttons look in the mockup is horrible, if it were round as usual it would look amazing!

res1233
Aug 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
I really don't like the look of that Home button, and I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones.

If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap, I'd prefer to have the thickness of the iPhone 4 and have a better battery inside.

I do love the idea of a bigger screen though.

I vaguely recall hearing that the elongated home button would be touch-sensitive. It may provide a fast way to swipe between apps using nothing but the home button. I think that would be quite amazing.

St. Germain
Aug 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
I'm sorry but that looks absolutely hideous.

I'm sorry but many of us disagree.

oliversl
Aug 10, 2011, 08:46 AM
So now what, Macrumors is the new Gizmodo? What happened to spoiler protection???
Ohhh the clicks ...

gforce216
Aug 10, 2011, 08:46 AM
So what you guys initially doubted when you reported on This Is My Next's design is now the exact same design they had said months ago?

http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/22/iphone-5-design/

mms13
Aug 10, 2011, 08:46 AM
Wow, those look great!

I have my doubts that they will make the screen larger, though. That would require devs to update all their apps with the new dimensions. Until then, we would have the disconnect, and many apps would likely have a black border around them to fill the empty space (much like iPhone apps running on iPad).

I hated when there was a bunch of non retina apps on the iPhone 4...some of my apps STILL haven't updated which I can't stand!

ridley182
Aug 10, 2011, 08:47 AM
I wish Apple'd announce the date of their iPhone 5 event at least :mad:

The wait is killing me...

rmatthewware
Aug 10, 2011, 08:47 AM
Okay, but where is the proximity sensor going to sit? You have to have a gap at the top for that. Otherwise I'm going to keep hitting buttons with my face.

commander.data
Aug 10, 2011, 08:48 AM
Wouldn't a 4" screen make the ppi sub-300 dpi making it not a Retina Display? I doubt Apple is going to introduce another resolution, so if they want to keep calling it Retina Display 4" is a no go. 3.7" or 3.8" would work.

I guess you'll know how accurate these renderings are if Apple files cease and desist takedown notices against you.

DrJohnnyN
Aug 10, 2011, 08:48 AM
Not bad, not bad at all.

Jbrumz85
Aug 10, 2011, 08:48 AM
Please!! let this be the iPhone 5 that white is sexy!!

j13funk
Aug 10, 2011, 08:49 AM
It's about time the iPhone got a bigger screen. It will just make it that much easier to work with as a smart phone.

Sodner
Aug 10, 2011, 08:49 AM
SWEET! I want one! :D

Damn I should really just get my pay check direct deposited to Steve Job's bank account.

FrizzleFryBen
Aug 10, 2011, 08:49 AM
I'm sorry but that looks absolutely hideous.

Silly that people -1 you for saying that. I respect your opinion but I disagree. I think it looks fantastic!

Certinfy
Aug 10, 2011, 08:49 AM
I can't say that looks great but it definitely doesn't look awful either. I'll probably still get it in the end but at the moment I'll consider getting a white SGS2 or a white iPhone 4 at release since those 2 will be a lot cheaper too. :)

countzero2k10
Aug 10, 2011, 08:49 AM
If this is what it's going to look like I'm all about it. Can't wait either way. Hurry up Apple! :D

iSee
Aug 10, 2011, 08:49 AM
Looks great...

For some reason I doubt the edge-to-edge screen, so I'm thinking something more like a 3.7" screen rather than 4".

I'm really looking forward to this... I'm going through iPhone withdrawl.

(I broke my 3Gs -- cracked screen, shuts down frequently, sometimes must be plugged in to reboot -- using a "dumb" phone :( for the time being.)

borisiii
Aug 10, 2011, 08:50 AM
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Ouch. I really hope it doesn't look like that. The superfluously tapered back, the weird home button, and the ugly looking edge-to-edge glass set unevenly from the top and bottom. It's all so un-apple like. I doubt Ive would allow something that looks like that to leave his atelier.

NAG
Aug 10, 2011, 08:51 AM
I actually like the glass back. I wonder how they'd handle an antenna going back to aluminum (i.e. are they putting a plastic patch on it as seen on the iPad GSM/CDMA and iPhone).

Anyway, in September we'll either find out how they'll do this or find out quite a few case makers were fooled and have to eat the cost of all those cases.

Dr McKay
Aug 10, 2011, 08:51 AM
I vaguely recall hearing that the elongated home button would be touch-sensitive. It may provide a fast way to swipe between apps using nothing but the home button. I think that would be quite amazing.

That would be a handy edition, losing a physical home button is a good idea I think, I've had 2 iPhone 4's replaced because of the Home Button starting to break, but the idea of multi-touch gestures on the home button sounds pretty cool to me :)

Ajones330
Aug 10, 2011, 08:51 AM
I definitely love the design, hopefully this is what it will look like...:D

Yaboze
Aug 10, 2011, 08:51 AM
Looks nice, especially in white this time.

erzhik
Aug 10, 2011, 08:52 AM
Sorry, but nothing like that will happen.

junkster
Aug 10, 2011, 08:52 AM
Aesthetically, it's less distinctive than the iPhone 4. Feels like what all the tablets are homing in on, just smaller. I can understand wanting to get the iPad and iPhone in line with each other design-wise, but it does come across as bland to me.

Ajones330
Aug 10, 2011, 08:54 AM
Looks great...

For some reason I doubt the edge-to-edge screen, so I'm thinking something more like a 3.7" screen rather than 4".

I'm really looking forward to this... I'm going through iPhone withdrawl.

(I broke my 3Gs -- cracked screen, shuts down frequently, sometimes must be plugged in to reboot -- using a "dumb" phone :( for the time being.)

I agree, love the design but the screen being edge to edge looks weird. 3.7 should do it I imagine to keep the retina display

nylonsteel
Aug 10, 2011, 08:55 AM
re possible iP5 images

yummy eye candy - but where's the thunderbolt port

"i want you to want me ..." - cheap trick

ArtOfWarfare
Aug 10, 2011, 08:55 AM
Those are weird shadows on the back of the one that's laying upside down...

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/iphone5-3.jpg

Also, I find it odd that MacRumors is resorting to making their own completely faked images. If it weren't their own fake images, they'd be posting them on Page 2 / the iOS Blog. But since they made the fake images themselves, they somehow warrant first page status?

iPhysicist
Aug 10, 2011, 08:55 AM
This is incredibly hässlich!

Rychy
Aug 10, 2011, 08:56 AM
Ouch. I really hope it doesn't look like that. The superfluously tapered back, the weird home button, and the ugly looking edge-to-edge glass set unevenly from the top and bottom. It's all so un-apple like. I doubt Ive would allow something that looks like that to leave his atelier.

I agree, the front looks horrible. Apple wouldn't ship something that looked like that.

scotty56
Aug 10, 2011, 08:57 AM
daddy like....daddy want...

celo48
Aug 10, 2011, 08:57 AM
Don't like the home button. Love the back.

Bumble Bee
Aug 10, 2011, 08:57 AM
This is sad when macrumors is going out looking for random iphone images.... Slow to no rumors means time to start making sh** up

Phones looks ok I agree with the blandness; I cannot see apple developing this

deellow
Aug 10, 2011, 08:58 AM
I would be very happy with this design. To some extent, I may even be disappointed if this isn't the design.

*LTD*
Aug 10, 2011, 08:58 AM
that is gorgeous! *faints*

Then someone had better bring both of us some water. Gorgeous indeed.

CarlHeanerd
Aug 10, 2011, 08:58 AM
The larger screen with no bezel seems out of balance to me. I'm sure we're missing some small nuances in these speculative renders, though. Apple generally makes things look better in person.

jfrancis04
Aug 10, 2011, 08:59 AM
Absolutely gorgeous. Best mockup by a country mile.

I agree with others who said they'll be disappointed if this isn't the design. Wow. Great work.

litchie
Aug 10, 2011, 08:59 AM
Swipe over home button is great.

Currently, the only pain with iPhone is you have to press home button a lot.

Everything else works effortless.

bradkrischel
Aug 10, 2011, 08:59 AM
I can't get over how ugly that home button looks in these mock-ups.

gramirez2012
Aug 10, 2011, 08:59 AM
Hopefully the White iPhone will be available from the start, this time around.

maroontiger2k9
Aug 10, 2011, 08:59 AM
why the need for the wide home button?! now we'll accidentally hit the button more often

why not just make the home button a touch-sensitive screen button?

mikes63737
Aug 10, 2011, 09:00 AM
Does this design remind anyone else of the HUGE chin on previous-generation iMacs?

Sackvillenb
Aug 10, 2011, 09:01 AM
Looks rather ipod touch-like, in some ways. Bigger screen is nice... and I do like the possibility of gestures around the home button... that would be really useful...

I wonder if there will be any bigger, more "revolutionary" changes, or if it will be an incremental change... We'll probably see soon enough!

macnchiefs
Aug 10, 2011, 09:02 AM
And just posted a link to the thisismynext.com website for the story they ran on it back in mid april. Your renderings are starting to look almost exactly what they had 4 months ago... just saying.

http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/22/iphone-5-design/

My opinion of the renderings - love them although you do have to be very careful when you're decreasing the size of the bezel like that. You can unknowingly allow for your hand to touch the screen just when you're holding it. I'm sure Apple would flush something like that out in testing though. Plus, they design everything so you pretty much have to buy a case when you buy the device anyways... so I'm sure they'll have a case to help prevent that.

Neodym
Aug 10, 2011, 09:02 AM
Design of the mockup does not really work for me. Screen is too big -> looking disproportional in relation to bezel and unit itself. Oval-looking homebutton also deviates design guidelines applied on the first 4 iterations (-> product identity!).

Teardrop shape is still a mystery to me - would probably be less balanced in the hand even in portrait mode, wouldn't it? Could imagine it as compromise on an iPod touch to have additional hardware (VoIP telephony) in the housing w/o increasing the thickness in general.

Or all of this is simply the biggest delusional setup Apple has pulled for a very long time...! :eek: :D

rkw0211
Aug 10, 2011, 09:03 AM
I guess I am one of the people who isn't a fan of this design. I have a feeling it'll probably look better in the store though. ;)

Bumble Bee
Aug 10, 2011, 09:03 AM
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=260

Ciccarese seems to have a different home button (back to the circle) and call it the iphone "air"

Trey M
Aug 10, 2011, 09:03 AM
If anything close to this design really is coming out of Cupertino this year- I'm really liking it. The concept at least. I agree with a few of you that there's no way this actual device will be released. However, I do believe there will be an edge-to-edge screen and the home button will have some sort of gesture support (I know they're all just rumors, but those are very specific rumors).

I don't think the front of the phone will look exactly like that- the top of the front looks to short, and the bottom where the home button is is awkwardly large. I expect Apple's iPhone 5 will look much more refined than these images, but then again, they're just mockups.

Another aspect I really like about this sketch up is the back. I would LOVE Apple to go back to the aluminum of the first iPhone. The only complaint I have about them is that they're likely to dent, but if Apple found a way to manufacture stronger aluminum that's less likely to take damages from impact, it'd be the best design possible.

Last thing is, I'm hoping that the device isn't too thin. The iPhone 4 is in no way bulky or heavy, so I really wouldn't like Apple to thin down the iPhone 5 more than a few mm. If it felt like the iPod touches, which I literally feel capable of snapping in half if I wanted it, it'd be a disappointment. Phones need to be solid, because they are so frequently used.

Gadgetassault
Aug 10, 2011, 09:04 AM
I’ve purchased all versions and I will get the next but if it looks like that then it’s a bonus because that design is beautiful.

Ubuntu
Aug 10, 2011, 09:04 AM
Looks nice, but I don't really like how the top part of the phone (above the screen) is shorter than the bottom.

devinci99
Aug 10, 2011, 09:04 AM
Where's the mute slider?

Looks more like an ipod touch than an iphone:

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/gallery/

Notice, ipod touch have no mute slider on the touch unlike the iphone or the ipad which has it.

iphone 5 may not be the only thing Apple is going to announce in September. This is usually the time Apple announce updates to ipods too.

aeaglex07
Aug 10, 2011, 09:04 AM
And just posted a link to the thisismynext.com website for the story they ran on it back in mid april. Your renderings are starting to look almost exactly what they had 4 months ago... just saying.

http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/22/iphone-5-design/

these newer renderings look nicer, more realistic

Neodym
Aug 10, 2011, 09:05 AM
why the need for the wide home button?! now we'll accidentally hit the button more often

why not just make the home button a touch-sensitive screen button?
... because you would hit the home button accidentally much more often than with a mechanical button!

JusChexin
Aug 10, 2011, 09:06 AM
This is a really beautiful phone design! I'd totally be on-board with that model. Larger screen = yum! :D

ThatDudeF
Aug 10, 2011, 09:06 AM
I think I'm in LOVE :D

Certinfy
Aug 10, 2011, 09:06 AM
Also hope that the the back of the phone is the same colour as the front :)

dlowings
Aug 10, 2011, 09:07 AM
iTouch ! That's all I have to say...

greytmom
Aug 10, 2011, 09:08 AM
So now what, Macrumors is the new Gizmodo? What happened to spoiler protection???
Ohhh the clicks ...

How is a guess a spoiler??

My opinion - I don't like this. I hope this isn't close to what the phone is going to look like. I love the 4 design - doing something similar but with edge to edge screen and possibly a bit thinner (but not too much - I don't want the phone to feel like it will snap in half) would be perfect.

Kentochan
Aug 10, 2011, 09:08 AM
I would buy that iPhone just for its looks! It's a magnificent, high-tech work of art! When it releases, I will be the first in line at the Apple store this year :P

DJinTX
Aug 10, 2011, 09:09 AM
Sexaaay, would even pay full price if this is real. If this doesn't get them pas EXXON, I dunno what will.

Let's hope the iPad3 is going to be this cool looking too. Edge to edge screens are so cool, poor people in SciFi land got another thing made reality in their lifetime.

Only thing that does surprise me is that Apple has not come up with a touch surface on the back of any of the devices. Perhaps in the real world it is not practical.

I cant imagine a backside touch panel working well. While holding the phone that's where my fingers are, and would likely trigger things accidentally. Knowing Apple, they would likely find a great ay to eliminate accidental presses, but I can't think of any tasks that would make me prefer controlling them via the back panel instead of the front. It just doesn't seem intuitive to me.

macnchiefs
Aug 10, 2011, 09:09 AM
these newer renderings look nicer, more realistic

No doubt they are. I guess I wasn't exactly referring to the drawings, more so that thisismynext.com pretty much nailed it 4 months ago if all this tapered design and smaller bezel aspects pan out.

JS77
Aug 10, 2011, 09:10 AM
we commissioned CiccareseDesign (http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/) to create high quality renderings made as closely as possible to the original leaked case designs.

Translated: We offered the company a link back to their site if they did the mockups for us ;)

Not sure how I feel about the design though... it feels "fussy" somehow although that larger home button is growing on me.

EDIT: Actually, I just looked at the pics again, and I really like it! :-D

interestedabit
Aug 10, 2011, 09:10 AM
Beautiful, hope it's like that.

KPJLK
Aug 10, 2011, 09:10 AM
Asymmetry and uneven mass distribution in a multi-orientation Apple device?

iMacx
Aug 10, 2011, 09:10 AM
Nice to see some decent redesigns, actually looks appealing now... still enjoying my iPhone 4 thought :rolleyes:

Mac-Mariachi
Aug 10, 2011, 09:12 AM
I´m sure Ive´s and Apple´s design will be much better looking. Can´t wait!

MonkeySee....
Aug 10, 2011, 09:13 AM
Wow thats really nice. I hope its not too much bigger than the last 2. I don't really like the size of the SG II.

I have complete faith in Apple to make this easy to use so I doubt it will be too big.

opencube
Aug 10, 2011, 09:14 AM
Looks a lot like my Galaxy S II. No wonder Apple wanted to block sales of Samsung devices.

jayenh
Aug 10, 2011, 09:14 AM
it looks quite nice, but i can't get over the silent button being moved to the other side. and i think the difference in size between the top and bottom border kind of throws the balance a bit. personally i don't think it will look like this. maybe the ipod will.

cvaldes
Aug 10, 2011, 09:15 AM
Nah, this is a closer representation of what the next-generation iPod touch would look like, not the iPhone.

Also, it would have to be flat, not tapered since it's a multi-orientation device.

revelated
Aug 10, 2011, 09:16 AM
"We made...a lil ol iPad 2."

*muted clapping*

"We took an iPad 2, and *fart sound* shrunk it down." *shrug*

"I don't get it.."

"Well, it's not that hard. We...we took an iPad 2, and *fart sound* shrunk it down." *shrug*

"So what does it do?"

"Everything the iPad 2 can do, and nothing else. We took the same 2-year-old technology...and put it into something smaller. More expensive, less ergonomic...magical!"

kjacks52
Aug 10, 2011, 09:17 AM
this seems way more likely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYnuHX3LCI&feature=player_embedded

MonkeySee....
Aug 10, 2011, 09:18 AM
Looks a lot like my Galaxy S II. No wonder Apple wanted to block sales of Samsung devices.

You think it looks like this pile of crap?....

http://www.techdigest.tv/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_official-mid.jpg

dlowings
Aug 10, 2011, 09:18 AM
"We made...a lil ol iPad 2."

*muted clapping*

"We took an iPad 2, and *fart sound* shrunk it down." *shrug*

"I don't get it.."

"Well, it's not that hard. We...we took an iPad 2, and *fart sound* shrunk it down." *shrug*

"So what does it do?"

"Everything the iPad 2 can do, and nothing else. We took the same 2-year-old technology...and put it into something smaller. More expensive, less ergonomic...magical!"

Yep... thats basicaly it...

Burger Thing
Aug 10, 2011, 09:18 AM
Incoming Samsung rip-off (with a slightly changed backside) in

3
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2
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:p

Mackan
Aug 10, 2011, 09:18 AM
Perhaps they will use a non-physical home button, i.e. led type. Would be cool if it was a glowing Apple.

wovel
Aug 10, 2011, 09:20 AM
You think it looks like this pile of crap?....

Image (http://www.techdigest.tv/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_official-mid.jpg)

Yes, it does. Feel better? Were you unsure?

hugo7
Aug 10, 2011, 09:20 AM
I'm not feeling that design. It feels like a step back after the iconic iPhone 4 (and yes, that model has its own issue with a glass back). The edge-2-edge screen is sweet but the overall device dimensions aren't right. Compared to the home button area, the earpiece area seems so anemic.

Also, given there will be no resolution improvements (currently at 640x960), won't having a larger screen make the iPhone 5 slightly less "retina" quality? *tongue-in-cheek*

Tonewheel
Aug 10, 2011, 09:21 AM
Makes sense, especially if Apple is going to maintain continuity with the iPad 2. But for me, this may be too thin, and looks like it's prone to a tentative grip in ones hand which could lead to fumbling/dropping... unless a case is used to add some thickness and hard corners. I'll actually have to hold one to know for sure, but for now it's my .02

trip1ex
Aug 10, 2011, 09:22 AM
Let's see it's thin and the face is covered by a touchscreen.

Too radical. Apple went too far this time.

pivo6
Aug 10, 2011, 09:22 AM
This is sad when macrumors is going out looking for random iphone images.... Slow to no rumors means time to start making sh** up

Phones looks ok I agree with the blandness; I cannot see apple developing this

Looks that way. Apparently macrumors.com is now creating rumors as well as reporting them.

As for the pic? It's ok. The larger screen would be welcome.

ArtOfWarfare
Aug 10, 2011, 09:23 AM
Yes, it does. Feel better? Were you unsure?

... it doesn't really look much like it at all. The Samsung is very angular looking... they used a lot of ugly metal seams... the interface has a lot of corners on it (as opposed to rounded corners on Apple's iOS.)

opencube
Aug 10, 2011, 09:23 AM
You think it looks like this pile of crap?....

Image (http://www.techdigest.tv/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_official-mid.jpg)

Yes I think it looks a lot like it.

I mean come on... how can you call it a piece of crap...apparently Samsung devices are copies of Apple's?

Mug!

Competition is great for business and advances in technology.

Apple is the king of repackaging whats already out there into devices that look nice and are coveted by a dedicated fanbase.

Get real.

Certinfy
Aug 10, 2011, 09:23 AM
You think it looks like this pile of crap?....
I'm not a 'fan' of either device but I personally think the SGS2 looks better than the pictures in the OP. :)

DJinTX
Aug 10, 2011, 09:23 AM
Very cool design. I think I like it. Not sure about the elongated home button, and if it turns out to be touch sensitive, I guess this could turn out to be cool, but I'll have to wait and see.

I am also very glad that according to these designs it is only .05 inches wider. This is barely over a millimeter. I didn't want a larger device, so an increase of less than 2 millimeters is acceptable compared to the half inch some were rumoring.

I do like the metal back as the curvature suggests, but I still wonder how Apple has solved the reduced signal through metal problem. I guess they could go with the whole plastic Apple logo for wireless signal, I just hope it is an adequate pass-through. Otherwise I suppose we will have a plastic cover on the back akin to the orig iPhone and 3G iPad. It should be interesting.

Biolizard
Aug 10, 2011, 09:24 AM
Just...horrible. The bezel is far too thin IMO to be attractive; and it'll lead to accidental screen presses.

Also the top of the front face where the speaker is, is too short compared to below the screen, and it doesn't look right.

Finally, thinness. Apple's obsession with thinness is getting to ridiculous levels; the iPhone 4 was about right IMO; the iPod Touch 4G I'm not so keen on. Much more and the phone will be liable to slipping out of my hands, not cool.

The redeeming feature is the larger screen however.

Let's see what they come up with September, but I really hope it isn't this.

antster94
Aug 10, 2011, 09:24 AM
But how will the antennae work with a metal back? That was the problem with the 2G which led to them having to give it that huge black strip at the bottom. Unless they find some way to integrate the antennae into the back then that can't happen in my eyes.

Navdakilla
Aug 10, 2011, 09:24 AM
love the design mockups

Can't wait!!!

atim
Aug 10, 2011, 09:24 AM
Looks cool, but the round home button looks better in my opinion.

maril1111
Aug 10, 2011, 09:24 AM
Looks good, now i want to see the actual iphone 5 :D

dmula
Aug 10, 2011, 09:26 AM
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It's wider because they need space for smart cover magnets.

fireshot91
Aug 10, 2011, 09:26 AM
I don't quite like it.

It looks too much like the iPod Touch. And it seems too skinny. I like the design of the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4, but any skinner, then it would probably slip out of most people's hands.

deellow
Aug 10, 2011, 09:27 AM
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=260

Ciccarese seems to have a different home button (back to the circle) and call it the iphone "air"

+1 This is my true iPhone 5 desire.

jaredhimself
Aug 10, 2011, 09:28 AM
Where's the vibrate button? And the home button won't be that big.. and I really hope the screen is more proportional.. Other than that I love it.

fireshot91
Aug 10, 2011, 09:28 AM
Wait, where's the silent switch?

I feel like this is rather an iPod Touch...Too skinny to be a phone anyways.

BreadofLife
Aug 10, 2011, 09:28 AM
Looks like I will have no problem hanging onto my 4 for another year :)
Unless it can't handle iOS 5 of course...

xgman
Aug 10, 2011, 09:29 AM
Sorry, but nothing like that will happen.

Oh, Ok Steve, thanks for the info. :rolleyes:

davie18
Aug 10, 2011, 09:29 AM
Looks good, but I can't help but think it'd look better if the screen was more central. But if it is like that, I'm sure there are some good reasons for it.

But apple, please, JUST RELEASE IT!! I'm becoming impatient :D

Steve121178
Aug 10, 2011, 09:29 AM
If that's the real iPhone 5, then it looks amazing.

Not sure where the SIM card slot is though?!

jmgregory1
Aug 10, 2011, 09:30 AM
The oval home button, if it is an actual button and not a touch sensitive spot, does not make sense. Why make switch from a circle to an oval? It would go against Apple's design aesthetic and unless the oval had different spots that cause different actions, I just can't see making this switch. It is essentially counter to their clean and simple model they've been following.

As far as the back goes, the tapered design may make sense in helping to limit weight and give a new method of measurement for the thinnest cell phone award, but functionally, it only works in portrait mode. Like the oval home button, it doesn't make sense to create a design that in hand, in landscape mode, is off balance. That just doesn't seem to be something Apple would overlook or settle for or even be able to "sell" us all on if they did end up designing it similarly.

I know I use my phone almost equally between portrait and landscape, given I'm not just using it as a phone. If the premise were the iPhone was just a phone and the apps were all in portrait mode, then sure, you could taper the back as much as you want - but this just isn't the case.

Tonewheel
Aug 10, 2011, 09:30 AM
[QUOTE=DJinTX;13150768Not sure about the elongated home button, and if it turns out to be touch sensitive, I guess this could turn out to be cool, but I'll have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]

A touch sensitive home button would be disastrous. Envision inadvertently swiping it with your thumb. Makes no sense to have a touch sensitive home button, if that's what you meant.

justinfreid
Aug 10, 2011, 09:32 AM
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Glad to say this after cringing at the increase in typos at MacRumors lately: good job MR.
The wedge form factor is ok, the gesture area around the home button is awesome.

Ijustfarted
Aug 10, 2011, 09:32 AM
Loved my android phone all this time but if this is the iPhone 5 I guess I'm jumping ship back to apple :D

BILLWFT
Aug 10, 2011, 09:33 AM
First HD phone to achieve 720P (1280 x 720 Pixels)

iZac
Aug 10, 2011, 09:33 AM
Nice job, MacRumors! It's good to see a story that you're producing yourself based on the amalgamation of all the rumours. with the addition of the slick renders, it's like a glossy production of your "rumour roundup" articles.

mlmwalt
Aug 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
I'll take one!!! I'll take whatever they put out!!! Come on, get it to market already!!!

Steve's Barber
Aug 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
I vaguely recall hearing that the elongated home button would be touch-sensitive. It may provide a fast way to swipe between apps using nothing but the home button. I think that would be quite amazing.

Can't do this one-handed though. The Home button at the bottom is the only thing I find out of place in the context of the iphone interface. It just doesn't belong there.

ChrisTX
Aug 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
I have an iPhone 4 but I promise you that if the iPhone 5 looks anything like this I will be one of the first in line here!

z2daj
Aug 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
I'm liking the mock-up. Ff it ends up looking anything like this, sign me up! (though sign me up regardless, this is Apple after all) ;)

shartypants
Aug 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
I'd buy that, looks nice.

Frosticus
Aug 10, 2011, 09:35 AM
Me rikey... :D

FriarNurgle
Aug 10, 2011, 09:36 AM
Giggity goo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/Glenn_Quagmire.png

troop231
Aug 10, 2011, 09:37 AM
First HD phone to achieve 720P (1280 x 720 Pixels)

Which means even more image sets for developers to include in apps..

Ijustfarted
Aug 10, 2011, 09:37 AM
Me rikey... :D

Oh herro dare!!!

winston1236
Aug 10, 2011, 09:38 AM
wow, i would buy then

nightfly13
Aug 10, 2011, 09:39 AM
I remember when I first held an iPhone 4 - I thought it'd be hard to improve upon. New meaning to 'familiarity breads contempt'.

jclardy
Aug 10, 2011, 09:40 AM
Hmm, I don't really like the border around the home button on the black version, as it looks like it has white around it.

I also still don't like the taper as it still seems it will be weighted more towards the top, and if you are swiping at the bezel below the screen it looks apt to flip out of your hand.

Cinch
Aug 10, 2011, 09:42 AM
I really don't like the look of that Home button, and I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones.

If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap, I'd prefer to have the thickness of the iPhone 4 and have a better battery inside.

I do love the idea of a bigger screen though.

I thought the iPhone 4 was already too thin. It is impractical to use without a case to make it a little thicker. Maybe it is just my large and bony fingers.

WeegieMac
Aug 10, 2011, 09:43 AM
I'm looking at buying my wife and I the new iPhone when my annual bonus is paid in March, and if that's the design I'll be more than happy.

Takeo
Aug 10, 2011, 09:43 AM
I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones. If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap...

The iPhone 4 is like carrying a brick in your pocket. It could stand to lose some weight.

Chrisg2014
Aug 10, 2011, 09:47 AM
Looks like a HTV Evo kind of... are we sure those cases aren't for the Evo lol. I mean 3D... um Evo I mean besides the camera in the back. It looks like one.

sclawis300
Aug 10, 2011, 09:47 AM
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=260

Ciccarese seems to have a different home button (back to the circle) and call it the iphone "air"

ummmm, they forgot something. How are you supposed to charge that thing?

divinox
Aug 10, 2011, 09:47 AM
Sorry Apple fans but i have to say this. Its fugly. (Most likely Apple has more class than that though, so dont cry just yet).

However, the elongated button is a touch of genius. Now they can add one more thing to their lawsuit against Samsung. :rolleyes:

Edit:

Vote me down all you want. That way the rest of us can count tears!

Rafterman
Aug 10, 2011, 09:48 AM
If accurate, I think there comes a point where a phone becomes too thin to be used comfortably. The iPhone is approaching that threshold.

whooleytoo
Aug 10, 2011, 09:49 AM
I really don't like the tapered back. Fine, if it's only ever used in portrait mode, but for a device which is often used in landscape orientation it'd just look and feel wrong, thicker on one side and wouldn't lay flat on a table. Ick.

The larger screen is nice, but I'd be worried about accidental gestures.

Any idea what the wider Home button is for? It'd be great if you could swipe left and right to switch between apps, far quicker and easier than the existing app switcher.

Todd H
Aug 10, 2011, 09:49 AM
I'm sorry but that looks absolutely hideous.

Agreed.

heimo
Aug 10, 2011, 09:51 AM
ummmm, they forgot something. How are you supposed to charge that thing?

Naturally it is charged by coiling your headset wire around charging tower.

colinmack
Aug 10, 2011, 09:52 AM
I guess I'm in the minority, but I think the mockup looks very unbalanced, and I would be really surprised (and a bit dissapointed) if that's how the final design looks. Sure, from a graphics/quality perspective the render is polished, but the uncentered screen just looks...awkward...and Apple doesn't tend to do awkward all that often.

jonnysods
Aug 10, 2011, 09:52 AM
Wow that looks really, really good. It would be amazing if they could get it thinner!

kazmac
Aug 10, 2011, 09:55 AM
besides a cheaper data/phone plan is the return to the aluminum backing. I would love to go from my iPhone 3GS to an iPhone 5 with little change in the form factor.

I thought I was going to ditch the iPhone but since Virgin's unlimited plan will about $10 cheaper than AT&T I don't think so.

I may wait though, I'd hate to get this and be stuck with 3G for another 2 years.

jayducharme
Aug 10, 2011, 09:56 AM
Asymmetry and uneven mass distribution in a multi-orientation Apple device?

Good point.

I'm not a fan of edges tapered so thinly. I already have enough trouble inserting the dock connector into my iPad 2. The tapered edge seems to guide the plug past the connector. IMO, the connection point should be flat or the plug edge should be tapered to match the connection point. The tapered design would also probably be a bad idea for mounting an iPhone in a current docking device. It seems as if it would make it easy to snap the dock connector with nothing else to hold the phone upright.

I do like the return of the aluminum back, though.

Mystic Gringo
Aug 10, 2011, 09:56 AM
I haven't weighed in on any of this stuff yet, Apple's smarter than me, so I expect they'll do better than I could. But....

What if there was no "home button" but the whole bottom portion was a home button... kinda how the Macbooks went from a clickable button to the whole pad being clickable. Then... they put some form of visual que behind the black space that is editable by game designers so that you can have buttons off screen. Games are getting HUGE on these things... and the worst part is on screen buttons... and permanent buttons are very unapple. So creating a touch sensitive area off screen could be an awesome way to solve this, and putting some sort of visual feed back of where these buttons are would be perfect. Whole bottom being clickable makes the thing sensitive to touches versus clicks.

This would follow in line with Apple's detest for physical buttons... like the Magic Mouse.

But... what do I know, I am just a dude suffering through on a 3G (not even a 3GS).

andrewsd
Aug 10, 2011, 09:57 AM
I was planning on wanting for the iPhone 6 because I am perfectly happy with my iPhone 4 and unlimited data plus the fact that the 5 wont be LTE but since my iPhone 4 is cracked to all hell then the 5 is looking better and better. Especially if it looks like that but curious how it will feel in landscape orientation when I am playing fifa..

Also I'm curious how much it would be to upgrade or get an early upgrade since I got the iP4 on AT&T in store launch day. June 29? 2010 I think it was but my account due to what I spend is usually for an early upgrade anyway.

nfl46
Aug 10, 2011, 09:57 AM
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Nice!! I really like it!

jav6454
Aug 10, 2011, 09:58 AM
Horrible design...

MVallee
Aug 10, 2011, 09:58 AM
I really don't like the mockup. Something about the front just seems off and un-Apple like. Personally I love the design of the iPhone 4 but I know they can't keep that design forever.

One thing I can't see Apple doing is making all the developers change the dimensions of their apps again. If they want to keep the "retina" display, the biggest they could make the screen is 3.8". I modified the mock-up a bit and shrunk the display by 5% to make the display roughly 3.8" and I think it looks more like something Apple would release.

Just posting this for speculation, not trying to argue. Nobody knows what it will look like until Steve is out on stage.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3259/iphone538in.jpg

divinox
Aug 10, 2011, 09:58 AM
Which means even more image sets for developers to include in apps..

And worse experience for users, as hardware has to push useless (yes, useless as its unnoticable) crap through to the retard in front of the device. Oh, and lets not forget about the fact that we have to pay big bucks to get that reduction of functionality too. What a great effing idea.

Can people please stop asking for stuff that actually makes devices worse?

We dont need 15mp cameras. We dont need 5 ghz quadcore processors. We dont need 720p monitors. Its so ironic that people say that the free market work when consumers, over and over again, prove how incapable they are when it comes to making the right choice (as in one that actually benefits them).

aeaglex07
Aug 10, 2011, 10:01 AM
And worse experience for users, as hardware has to push useless (yes, useless as its unnoticable) crap through to the retard in front of the device. Oh, and lets not forget about the fact that we have to pay big bucks to get that reduction of functionality too. What a great effing idea.

Can people please stop asking for stuff that actually makes devices worse?

We dont need 15mp cameras. We dont need 5 ghz quadcore processors. We dont need 720p monitors. Its so ironic that people say that the free market work when consumers, over and over again, prove how incapable they are when it comes to making the right choice (as in one that actually benefits them).

why bother with modern technology? do you realize that more powerful hardware is actually more useful? it allows for more powerful programs. LOL

dude just sell your iphone and buy a jitterbug.

DJinTX
Aug 10, 2011, 10:01 AM
A touch sensitive home button would be disastrous. Envision inadvertently swiping it with your thumb. Makes no sense to have a touch sensitive home button, if that's what you meant.

Yes, I was referring to the rumor of a touch sensitive home button with swipable area, and as mentioned I suppose it could turn out okay, but I'm not sold. If it wasn't clear, I am leaning in the direction of not liking it, but Apple has a way of innovating that could change my mind if done right. So, I will withhold judgement.

whooleytoo
Aug 10, 2011, 10:03 AM
Has this design been 'confirmed' by any source, other than the guy who leaked a rumour of one potential deign to thisismynext.com? It seems this design is getting a lot of credence with very little to back it up.

mbhebsgaard
Aug 10, 2011, 10:03 AM
The thing looks pretty nice - guess it would be a good time to replace the 3Gs.

Well lets see WHEN we see the real iPhone 5 and how it looks :)

mikedeissler
Aug 10, 2011, 10:03 AM
Try searching the Android market - there are many "innovative" apps for those who can read (and have some degree of manual dexterity).... Sadly, though, Stevie hasn't thought of them yet, so they don't exist... :apple: Can I please change my text message sound, now, PLEASE!?!?!?!

Wow, hopefully.

Beautiful.

I'm fed up with the lack of innovative Apps on Android...

DJinTX
Aug 10, 2011, 10:04 AM
Loved my android phone all this time but if this is the iPhone 5 I guess I'm jumping ship back to apple :D

So are you a serial ship-jumper then?

Wickedgardengtp
Aug 10, 2011, 10:05 AM
Sorry, but nothing like that will happen.

I'm gonna save this quote.

Lepton
Aug 10, 2011, 10:06 AM
I like the tapered back because it makes it easier to figure out which way is up while fumbling for it in my pocket. Sometimes I put the phone upside down in my shirt pocket, so the speaker is pointing up at me. That said, I don't think Apple will do it. The phone will be thinner overall, but every fraction of a millimeter inside the case means more battery life, and battery life is extremely important.

I believe the Home button will stay round. It's not hard to hit, it doesn't need a change. I believe the oval opening is indeed to allow you to swipe across it to switch apps. Swiping will only work when the device is awake, it will do nothing while asleep due to the possibility of, if you'll pardon the expression, butt swiping.

I believe the case will go edge to edge, though I'm not sure how thin a bezel is technically possible. Resolution will remain the same, dots per inch will go down a bit, but it will still be "retina". Perhaps the dots per inch will match the DPI on the iPad 3. On any iOS device, screen resolution will either stay the same or go 2X. It will never change only slightly, short of a new device like a big screen TV.

blacktaxi2d
Aug 10, 2011, 10:06 AM
I really don't like the mockup. Something about the front just seems off and un-Apple like. Personally I love the design of the iPhone 4 but I know they can't keep that design forever.

One thing I can't see Apple doing is making all the developers change the dimensions of their apps again. If they want to keep the "retina" display, the biggest they could make the screen is 3.8". I modified the mock-up a bit and shrunk the display by 5% to make the display roughly 3.8" and I think it looks more like something Apple would release.

Just posting this for speculation, not trying to argue. Nobody knows what it will look like until Steve is out on stage.

Image (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3259/iphone538in.jpg)

Thank god somebody else understands this. I don't think any site owner has actually done the math, I believe when I did it, it came out to be like 3.83". Also, swiping down from the top on a 4" is difficult for some people.

Tones2
Aug 10, 2011, 10:07 AM
Give me a 4" screen, 64 GB, HSPA+, and lose the glass back and this would be the best iPhone release ever.

However, I've ALWAYS been disappointed by every single iPhone announcement since it's introduction. The rumors are always too good to be true and Apple always holds back features. My bet is still that we will NOT get a bigger screen (or if we do, it's some minimal increment lie 3.7") and no 64 GB option. We'll just get slightly faster and thinner with a better camera, like the iPad 2 update. But people will still go crazy buying it for some reason and fanboys will post how they glad they are that it didn't have a larger screen or 64 GB. :rolleyes:

Tony

tom.landy
Aug 10, 2011, 10:07 AM
This is a samsung Galaxy R guys...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/10/samsung-galaxy-r-officially-announced-for-europe-and-asia-nobod/

Digitalclips
Aug 10, 2011, 10:07 AM
I haven't weighed in on any of this stuff yet, Apple's smarter than me, so I expect they'll do better than I could. But....

What if there was no "home button" but the whole bottom portion was a home button... kinda how the Macbooks went from a clickable button to the whole pad being clickable. Then... they put some form of visual que behind the black space that is editable by game designers so that you can have buttons off screen. Games are getting HUGE on these things... and the worst part is on screen buttons... and permanent buttons are very unapple. So creating a touch sensitive area off screen could be an awesome way to solve this, and putting some sort of visual feed back of where these buttons are would be perfect. Whole bottom being clickable makes the thing sensitive to touches versus clicks.

This would follow in line with Apple's detest for physical buttons... like the Magic Mouse.

But... what do I know, I am just a dude suffering through on a 3G (not even a 3GS).

Too easy to press accidentally that way.

sclawis300
Aug 10, 2011, 10:09 AM
Try searching the Android market - there are many "innovative" apps for those who can read (and have some degree of manual dexterity).... Sadly, though, Stevie hasn't thought of them yet, so they don't exist... :apple: Can I please change my text message sound, now, PLEASE!?!?!?!

I can change my text message sound. I would settle for just being able to change my email notification sound. And set different sounds for different email accounts.

Aviboy97
Aug 10, 2011, 10:09 AM
Wow, hopefully.

Beautiful.

I'm fed up with the lack of innovative Apps on Android...

My wife feels the same way. She has a DROID and the app support is just terrible compared to iOS. My iPhone and our iPad are loaded with useful apps, and she struggles to find good ones on Android.

nerdo
Aug 10, 2011, 10:09 AM
Well I can :)

but mostly for gaming, browsing, anything you do while holding the screen landscape or straight too face where screen real estate matters and you want as little space for navigation as possible.

not in phone mode or always 'on' kinda thing that would suck. Maybe it only works with the home button pressed and you see a ghost overlay of fingers or whatever for navigation. you can do a lot more sophisticated gaming stuff this way.

I should probably patent this and troll samsung and apple for years too come!



I cant imagine a backside touch panel working well. While holding the phone that's where my fingers are, and would likely trigger things accidentally. Knowing Apple, they would likely find a great ay to eliminate accidental presses, but I can't think of any tasks that would make me prefer controlling them via the back panel instead of the front. It just doesn't seem intuitive to me.

WestonHarvey1
Aug 10, 2011, 10:10 AM
So we either get more iOS screen resolution fragmentation for developers, or a not-quite-as-Retina Retina display.

How iOS devices behave when laying flat on a table seems to be the most variable of things. Apple has no problems going with flat and stable, curved and wobbly, and back again.

Tapered isn't totally out of the question, especially given the preference for that orientation on the iPhone - after all, orientation lock only works for that one orientation on the iPhone.

kdarling
Aug 10, 2011, 10:10 AM
One question though, Why in all the mock ups is the home button oblong? I think that the home buttons look in the mockup is horrible, if it were round as usual it would look amazing!

In some predictions, the home button is oblong because it is also a gesture pad.

MonkeySee....
Aug 10, 2011, 10:10 AM
I really don't like the tapered back. Fine, if it's only ever used in portrait mode, but for a device which is often used in landscape orientation it'd just look and feel wrong, thicker on one side and wouldn't lay flat on a table. Ick.

The larger screen is nice, but I'd be worried about accidental gestures.

Any idea what the wider Home button is for? It'd be great if you could swipe left and right to switch between apps, far quicker and easier than the existing app switcher.

I agree with this. The phone would be top heavy and not balanced. :confused:

meesebyte
Aug 10, 2011, 10:11 AM
I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones. If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap...

They never will lose this obsession. Have you never used the MacBook Air or iPhone 4? More solid yet slimmer and sleeker than previous models in both cases. If that evidence isn't enough, do you seriously think Apple would ever make a product "cheap"-feeling? Apple products are über-solid by today's standards, and they only continue to increase in infrastructural quality.

zstern702
Aug 10, 2011, 10:12 AM
The iPhone 4 is like carrying a brick in your pocket. It could stand to lose some weight.

easy fix for that is man up!

what ever apple is doing with the new iphone its going to sell.. they broke a 4 year cycle becasue they needed the extra time. i will only buy it as long as they release a 64gb version.. im tired of having to check and uncheck songs that i want to have on my 32gb. i truley want to be able to carry my full music collection plus photos and videos with no comprimise..

sclawis300
Aug 10, 2011, 10:13 AM
I believe the Home button will stay round. It's not hard to hit, it doesn't need a change. I believe the oval opening is indeed to allow you to swipe across it to switch apps. Swiping will only work when the device is awake, it will do nothing while asleep due to the possibility of, if you'll pardon the expression, butt swiping.



wouldn't the proximity sensor prevent this? I would like to be able to wake my phone without clicking something. Not a huge issue but the only problem I have had with my iPhone 4 is the home button.

rainmanbk
Aug 10, 2011, 10:13 AM
To echo all the others that have mentioned these few points...

- Area above screen is too short. The face of the iPhone is all about proportions. You can't have the bottom be larger than the top. It's basic design...

- The screen will not be that close to the edge. Yes there are rumors about edge to edge screens but they are rumors, and also they are stupid when considered in a usability sense. Holding an iPhone casually, you will always hit the edges with either your thumb or the meaty pad beneath your thumb. I do this all the time on my iPhone 4 holding it with one hand when stretching my thumb up across the screen to hit a control on the right near the status bar. Less of that safe space will just cause this even more, creating a very frustrating experience. Plus, it looks worse when considering proportions. The less on the sides, the more the top and bottom jump out at you.

As for the back of the device, that's really anyone's guess. I'd say the more 'iPod Touch-ey' this looks, the less likely it'll happen, but that's just because the iPhone 4 is so distinct looking. I don't think they'll go with a curved back a la 3GS, but I agree it probably won't have the hard edges or glass backside the iPhone 4 has. Antennae band will probably go away considering the fiasco and time since that Apple has had to work out something better.

I really don't know about the home button.

PinkyMacGodess
Aug 10, 2011, 10:14 AM
This looks too thin for a phone. Could this be for a new Touch instead?

The thinner they make these things, the more concerned I am that they will flex and crack.

Padraig
Aug 10, 2011, 10:15 AM
I really don't like the mockup. Something about the front just seems off and un-Apple like. Personally I love the design of the iPhone 4 but I know they can't keep that design forever.

One thing I can't see Apple doing is making all the developers change the dimensions of their apps again. If they want to keep the "retina" display, the biggest they could make the screen is 3.8". I modified the mock-up a bit and shrunk the display by 5% to make the display roughly 3.8" and I think it looks more like something Apple would release.

Just posting this for speculation, not trying to argue. Nobody knows what it will look like until Steve is out on stage.

Image (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3259/iphone538in.jpg)

I'm really surprised that the mockup used a 4 inch display when the rumors seem to be suggesting a smaller increase; especially when it doesn't "fit" the device. Your minor adjustment makes for a much nicer and believable phone.

840quadra
Aug 10, 2011, 10:16 AM
I know I am hours late, but totally not a fan of that design. Screen size, internal upgrades, and software asside, it simply looks quite similar to the current generation iPod Touch, previous iPhones, and many Android phones currently out on the market. Just looks like a step backwards in some ways.

At a risk of sounding like an old VW fan, I like my squareback iPhone 4. Regardless, I will likely skip this generation as my iPhone isn't even a year old, and I tend to old onto my old apple Tech for quite a while! :o

Just my opinion, that's all.

Sheza
Aug 10, 2011, 10:16 AM
I think the new design looks awesome!

Apple's products all combining together using the same material looks like a good idea. The Mac Book Air, iMac, Mac Mini and iPad etc all have similar materials. Now the iPhone 5 needs an iPad 2 back! Yes please!

Nutes
Aug 10, 2011, 10:17 AM
Looks awesome! I've been waiting 5 years for Apple to bring back the aluminum back. Can't wait. Black for sure.

Shelds
Aug 10, 2011, 10:18 AM
Im with this guy..

I'm sorry but that looks absolutely hideous.

looks horribly unbalanced to me. symmetry is kind of a key point in apples product design.
At the end of the day i guess theyre really just some dudes 3d renderings, not work by an industrial designer..
haters gonna hate but whatever

Tones2
Aug 10, 2011, 10:20 AM
To echo all the others that have mentioned these few points...

- Area above screen is too short. The face of the iPhone is all about proportions. You can't have the bottom be larger than the top. It's basic design...

- The screen will not be that close to the edge. Yes there are rumors about edge to edge screens but they are rumors, and also they are stupid when considered in a usability sense. Holding an iPhone casually, you will always hit the edges with either your thumb or the meaty pad beneath your thumb. I do this all the time on my iPhone 4 holding it with one hand when stretching my thumb up across the screen to hit a control on the right near the status bar. Less of that safe space will just cause this even more, creating a very frustrating experience. Plus, it looks worse when considering proportions. The less on the sides, the more the top and bottom jump out at you.

As for the back of the device, that's really anyone's guess. I'd say the more 'iPod Touch-ey' this looks, the less likely it'll happen, but that's just because the iPhone 4 is so distinct looking. I don't think they'll go with a curved back a la 3GS, but I agree it probably won't have the hard edges or glass backside the iPhone 4 has. Antennae band will probably go away considering the fiasco and time since that Apple has had to work out something better.

I really don't know about the home button.

As much as I want a 4"screen, I have to agree with the logic of this statement.

Tony

firewater101
Aug 10, 2011, 10:22 AM
I'm sorry but that looks absolutely hideous.

Agreed. That is a step back from the current design. I would largely keep the design the same, but lose the glass on the back and make it slightly thinner. Then redesign the antenna band to be internal around the edge where the side of the phone is just part of the back cover, which preferably is aluminum. I just personally think the tapered edges and "wedge" shape to be ugly.

palmerc2
Aug 10, 2011, 10:23 AM
As I'm reading this on my iPhone 4, it suddenly appears out of date. I will be upgrading IF the i5 has 64GB of capacity.

ranReloaded
Aug 10, 2011, 10:25 AM
Give landscape symmetry and a Home button less cheesy (what's wrong with the current one?), and I'm sold.

CFreymarc
Aug 10, 2011, 10:25 AM
What's the chance that what these unauthorized case makers think is the next iPhone is really the next iPod Touch? Now, I know what you are thinking -- there is a speaker on the front of the case. VOIP Phone.

More like "there is a speaker on the front of the case", new iPod Touch.

stanleyboy
Aug 10, 2011, 10:26 AM
If that's what it's going to look like then I ********** love it! definitely get a white one

TallGuy1970
Aug 10, 2011, 10:27 AM
Wouldn't your hand/thumb keep hitting the screen? Visually I like it but I feel like I would register a lot of accidental touches if I don't hold it carefully.

It's designed that way to force people to avoid the "death grip!" :)

divinox
Aug 10, 2011, 10:28 AM
why bother with modern technology? do you realize that more powerful hardware is actually more useful? it allows for more powerful programs. LOL

dude just sell your iphone and buy a jitterbug.

As someone who does technology research for a living (in fact, im currently working with mobile platforms) i could probably teach you a thing or two about "modern technology".

The spec. race has nothing to do with "modern technology", or making devices "more useful". It has everything to do with consumers being stupid, and capitalizing on that through throwing fancy specs at them.

Talk to anyone initiated in the industry and they will tell you the same thing. Doesnt even matter what part of the industry you're looking at. For example, look at TVs (e.g. Dynamic Ratio) and other displays (e.g. ms) or cameras (e.g. mp). Mobiles are no different (heck, we already have one of the aforementioned, and someone will probably draw the DR out of their marketing ass soon enough as well).

One would think that realistic colors is top priority for display makers (its not). One would think picture quality is top priority for camera makers (its not*). Et cetera.

Final, i dont own an iphone (or plan to). Apple do prove my point however (and slam you with a 500 usd margin for it). Its less about the hardware you have, and more about how well your software can utilize that hardware.

Now, let me ask you something:

In what way is a camera that gives you worse pictures technological evolution? In what way is a display that costs more and requires more juice without giving the user any benefit technological evolution?

Grow a brain, or at least start using the one that God allegedly gave you.


* Ok, they're actually coming around now, dropping mp-rates on high end devices as it gives you BETTER pictures for LESS money, and since the pictures take LESS space you can fit MORE pictures on your device (not to mention speed, processing time etc.). But still...

ThomasJL
Aug 10, 2011, 10:29 AM
It's a shame that so many people like the idea of another aluminum iPhone. Aluminum significantly blocks radio signals. There is a reason that Apple's aluminum laptops have always had the worst Wi-Fi reception out of all brands of laptops on the market. There is a reason that many reviews praised the plastic iPhone 3G's reception as superior to its aluminum predecessor. Using aluminum for the iPhone body would be a huge step backwards.

If aluminum is such a great material, then why do 3G-enabled iPads have those ugly black plastic patches in the back? Oh yeah, it's because aluminum significantly blocks all radio signals, especially 3G signals.

It would be a form-over-function move if Apple decided to make the iPhone 5 backside out of aluminum.

Stewie86
Aug 10, 2011, 10:31 AM
If these dimensions are true, I'm getting it! Not that I wasn't going to get it anyway. :p But those dimensions would make it thinner than the current iPod Touch! :eek:

Juan007
Aug 10, 2011, 10:31 AM
Unbelievable. If iPhone 5 looks this good then it will sell 100 million units in the US easily as the analysts predicted. It looks like a huge winner, bigger than any product Apple has ever launched before.

vincenz
Aug 10, 2011, 10:34 AM
It looks good, but the screen size is way out of proportion with the rest of the face.. I'd be very surprised if the Apple design team went in this direction.

Cinch
Aug 10, 2011, 10:40 AM
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It looks good, but the screen size is way out of proportion with the rest of the face.. I'd be very surprised if the Apple design team went in this direction.

I agree as well as many others stated prior. Symmetry, proportion and aesthetics is what matter when Steve's make his final decision.

boss1
Aug 10, 2011, 10:41 AM
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What happens when it turns out the leaked design wasnt it, and everyone ouside of apple just ran with it? lol

Im seeing a new pattern in these threads now . Everyones posts are less about iPhone vs others, it's as if that argument is dying and consumers have by this time fallen into one side or another

satkin2
Aug 10, 2011, 10:43 AM
If that's the design I'd hope for an improvement by iPhone 6.

rwilliams
Aug 10, 2011, 10:46 AM
I'm not really digging this design.

Carniphage
Aug 10, 2011, 10:46 AM
So where is the antenna?

C.

toddybody
Aug 10, 2011, 10:47 AM
No getting around it...looks gorgeous.

AppleInLVX
Aug 10, 2011, 10:49 AM
Honestly, it's a great looking device, if it were made by some other company it would be the best Android design yet.

But from Apple? I dunno. This looks like a step back from the iP4 in design. It doesn't strike me as any sort of evolution, which is what I'd expect.

The wedge shape doesn't lend aesthetic value to a device of this size. I loved the simplicity of an elegant slab.

I'm also worried about the larger screen. No matter what, making it bigger will reduce the ppi vs iP4, which means it'll look worse. That's also a step back.

I hope they put the new guts in the old phone as part of the rev (i.e. A5). I'll buy the iP4 design over this one.

Samppaa
Aug 10, 2011, 10:55 AM
I think there's too little space at the top of the phone which makes it look stupid, but that's just my opinion.

kirk26
Aug 10, 2011, 10:56 AM
Can't decide between the BlackBerry 9810 or iPhone 5. :(

jayducharme
Aug 10, 2011, 10:59 AM
I was just thinking about the awkwardness of a tapered dock connector and began to wonder -- what if Apple abandons their dock connector for wireless syncing? After all, with iOS 5, everything will seamlessly sync with the cloud and do away with the need for a computer. The phone could charge inductively. Without the need for that gaping hole at the bottom, Apple could create some increasingly innovative designs.

In what way is a camera that gives you worse pictures technological evolution?

Are you talking about Android devices? I agree, the pictures aren't that great from those. As for my iPhone 4's camera, I just enlarged one of my pics to an 18 x 24 poster and it looks spectacular, with stunning color and no perceptible grain. And it was a night shot! I wouldn't call that a "worse picture."

mazz0
Aug 10, 2011, 11:01 AM
They can't make it unsymmetrical like that, it'll look and feel horrible in landscape!

I like the idea of swiping the button to switch apps, although making the button itself wider looks a bit ugly to me.

Mind you, I thought the leaked iPhone 4 looked ugly, but seeing (and touching) it in the flesh I adore it!

bettaboy123
Aug 10, 2011, 11:02 AM
It's a shame that so many people like the idea of another aluminum iPhone. Aluminum significantly blocks radio signals. There is a reason that Apple's aluminum laptops have always had the worst Wi-Fi reception out of all brands of laptops on the market. There is a reason that many reviews praised the plastic iPhone 3G's reception as superior to its aluminum predecessor. Using aluminum for the iPhone body would be a huge step backwards.

If aluminum is such a great material, then why do 3G-enabled iPads have those ugly black plastic patches in the back? Oh yeah, it's because aluminum significantly blocks all radio signals, especially 3G signals.

It would be a form-over-function move if Apple decided to make the iPhone 5 backside out of aluminum.
What about Liquid Metal? I personally like the idea of it, and if they made it look like aluminum (instead of a more gunmetal color) that would be great since radio signals can pass right through it.

My thoughts:

I'm not sure I would like the taper to be that extreme. Maybe a more slight taper is more realistic.

The rendering is not the greatest looking, but its not really meant to be an exact copy of what the iPhone 5 looks like, so cut them some slack. I would personally love a bigger screen, like 4+ inches. My best friend has a Samsung Infuse, (4.5") and it's not too big. It's much easier to type on and play games on. Why does everyone think they're too big? :confused:

I had a fourth-generation iPod touch (until I sold it to get my iPad) and the thinness of it seemed like a bad thing at first, but it actually started feeling thicker and more like a brick every day. It was extremely solid. I had a thin silicon case on it, and that made it feel thick as hell. Believe me, the thinness of the iPod touch is amazing! ;)

Maybe this is the next iPod touch, but based on how much I used that in landscape for gaming, that extreme taper would not be too good. Again, a slight taper would be nice for aestetics (spelling?) and possibly a more even weight distribution. (Think how the first-generation iPad was exactly the same weight on each side in portrait.)

Just my two cents. :)

dona83
Aug 10, 2011, 11:02 AM
I don't want to like the iPhone 5 but I do... <bank account> NOOOOOOOO.

steadysignal
Aug 10, 2011, 11:07 AM
I havent bought an iPhone since 2g (mostly coz apple waits almost a year before releasing it here) but if it looks anything like this, I'll HAVE to find a way and get this thing any which way possible :o
<koolaid>

i dont care if i cant get the disco to buy this phone if it looks like this... i will pay the full boat to get it.

</koolaid>

simmstar
Aug 10, 2011, 11:07 AM
NAAAAAASTY!

Jony Ive would more than likely throw himself under a bus that give that the green light. No symmetry, top to bottom front panel ratio isn't equal, home button sticks like a sore thumb, landscape will be horrible....

I'll be more than happy with my iPhone 4 if that were to be it.

SiPat
Aug 10, 2011, 11:09 AM
Although the iPod Touch has tapered/rounded edges, it has a flat bottom and isn't wedge-shaped.

I can see a Macbook Air-type wedge working just fine in portrait mode, but landscape mode?

King Flamez1
Aug 10, 2011, 11:09 AM
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Ouch. I really hope it doesn't look like that. The superfluously tapered back, the weird home button, and the ugly looking edge-to-edge glass set unevenly from the top and bottom. It's all so un-apple like. I doubt Ive would allow something that looks like that to leave his atelier.

agreed, apple is starting to look a little bit sloppy since Steve's cancer worsening recently. Even the typography in their ads have been off from the perfect consistency i loved

MonkeySee....
Aug 10, 2011, 11:13 AM
agreed, apple is starting to look a little bit sloppy since Steve's cancer worsening recently. Even the typography in their ads have been off from the perfect consistency i loved

Wait...wut? :confused:

jfc123
Aug 10, 2011, 11:16 AM
I want apple to give the iphone a 3d display and camera, just like the nintendo 3ds!!!:):):):):):):):):):):):)

DJinTX
Aug 10, 2011, 11:17 AM
agreed, apple is starting to look a little bit sloppy since Steve's cancer worsening recently. Even the typography in their ads have been off from the perfect consistency i loved

What else can you tell us about Steve's prognosis, Doctor?

840quadra
Aug 10, 2011, 11:20 AM
I want apple to give the iphone a 3d display and camera, just like the nintendo 3ds!!!:):):):):):):):):):):):)

As long as it can be turned off, I am fine with this. Consumer level 3D as it stands (lenticular or not) feels more like a gimmick, but does give a fun toylike effect to some games and animation if used properly.

I personally would leave it turned off, but wouldn't want to rob those that do like such things.

Cleverboy
Aug 10, 2011, 11:21 AM
Here's my dream list of features:

* Shatter-proof screen (within reason)
* Water-resistant (no sim slot, back cover slides off, headphone/30pin seals)
* Dual-core Processor
* Voice Assistant / Dictation
* 8MP camera / 1080p video 30 fps
* Larger Screen / Thinner Frame

That would hit me square between the eyes. I'm waiting for my replacement iPhone 4 screen to arrive today.

~ CB

ChrisTX
Aug 10, 2011, 11:23 AM
Can't decide between the BlackBerry 9810 or iPhone 5. :(

It's hard to detect sarcasm over the Internet. Can't tell if you're being facetious or not.

However, this reminds me of when the iPhone 4 was leaked. Everyone proclaimed how ugly, and Un-Apple it was. Until it was released, and then everyone quickly changed their tune. I suspect the same will go down here.

zoostation
Aug 10, 2011, 11:23 AM
I really don't like the look of that Home button, and I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones.

If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap, I'd prefer to have the thickness of the iPhone 4 and have a better battery inside.

I do love the idea of a bigger screen though.

I Agree 100%... the design of the iPhone 4 is perfect! the only thing I'd add is a bigger screen!

cvaldes
Aug 10, 2011, 11:30 AM
So where is the antenna?

C.
It's in the metal collar around the camera lens. Just like the current model, the iPod touch 4.

This isn't an iPhone.

knewsom
Aug 10, 2011, 11:31 AM
Seamless aluminum backing = no antenna. This design is impossible.

CJisohsocool
Aug 10, 2011, 11:33 AM
Home button looks stupid. I really hope they don't add that.

spacemanspifff
Aug 10, 2011, 11:34 AM
Nice renders!

Looks OK but....

As a designer myself, I don't like the asymmetric bezel and I don't think Apple would do that either, but they might I suppose, look at the iMac?

I don't think they'll change the screen size and the edge to edge screen is still a way off I think - sorry SciFi fans!

I really don't think they'd change the shape of the home button it's too iconic now and I believe they have a patent on the circle one. Maybe it won't be a physical button this time and they need the extra area for gestures [if the case designs are accurate of course].

I don't mind the iPad style back but the glass on the iPhone 4 is sooo much cooler IMO.

ThePoach
Aug 10, 2011, 11:35 AM
I like the new size, screen, and rounded edges.. but I'm not feeling the design here. I hope it doesn't turn out to look like an iPad mini. I trust Apple will come out with a NEW inovative kick *ss design:)

kirk26
Aug 10, 2011, 11:35 AM
It's hard to detect sarcasm over the Internet. Can't tell if you're being facetious or not.

However, this reminds me of when the iPhone 4 was leaked. Everyone proclaimed how ugly, and Un-Apple it was. Until it was released, and then everyone quickly changed their tune. I suspect the same will go down here.

Nope. I'm being serious.

sk8er1
Aug 10, 2011, 11:37 AM
If it looks anything like this I'll be getting it the day it comes out.

manyax111
Aug 10, 2011, 11:42 AM
Bottom and top parts of the screen (home button and front camera sides) are asymmetrical. I hope they do not release something like that. It looks awful and it would be a problem since there are left and right landscape modes specially for gaming.

vitzr
Aug 10, 2011, 11:43 AM
Wow, hopefully.

Beautiful.

I'm fed up with the lack of innovative Apps on Android...

Why not enjoy the beauty of this new design?

Is it REALLY that fulfilling for you to bash Android?

Leave Android out of it, we are here to enjoy Apple products.

Cheap shots are revealing of your thinking.

divinox
Aug 10, 2011, 11:44 AM
Are you talking about Android devices? I agree, the pictures aren't that great from those. As for my iPhone 4's camera, I just enlarged one of my pics to an 18 x 24 poster and it looks spectacular, with stunning color and no perceptible grain. And it was a night shot! I wouldn't call that a "worse picture."

Suggestion, pull the Apple out of your ass. My post (and question) was not about Android/Apple.

As for the iphone camera it is "okay" (as in, it is no replacement for a good camera - then again, not even nokia with their zeiss is). Nothing spectacular, but fully functioning (a bit off on whites from what i can remember). Funny thing, though, is that the Apple is so far up that you dont even realize that you just confirmed my earlier post.

The iphone does not boast high mp speccs. The iphone (4) takes pretty nice pictures.

I would ask you to try to answer the question again if i thought that you were actually capable of providing an intelligent response; sadly, i dont.

1=1?
Aug 10, 2011, 11:46 AM
I think it looks ugly. Very awkward trying to stuff a larger screen onto the existing design. Not into it. Would rather have a iPhone4

Prodo123
Aug 10, 2011, 11:46 AM
There's only 3 things that bother me with this design:
1. That home button is fugly, I like the circle more.
2. If Apple decides to go with the aluminum back like the iPod Touch and iPad, then I'd rather keep my iPhone 4. Those backs are scratch magnets, not to mention they dent easily and are extremely thin.
3. As phones get thinner, camera quality will suffer. It'll have such a wide field of view!

teme
Aug 10, 2011, 11:49 AM
I think it looks good (I've never been a big fan of the sandwich design of iPhone 4), but the speaker area looks too thin for proper grip when the device is held horizontally. That asymmetric design (when it's held horizontally) doesn't look very Apple.

aluren
Aug 10, 2011, 11:50 AM
It doesn't look quite right in the screen is not in the center. The top is thinned out and the home button area is scretched. But nice try though.

SockRolid
Aug 10, 2011, 11:50 AM
The current iPhone 4 is already approaching the minimum thickness for a device with a 2.5mm headphone jack. Have a look at the top edge. The jack is almost as wide as the stainless steel band. It's still possible to make the band narrower, but once it becomes as narrow as the headphone jack, that's it. The display will be touching the jack.

Short term: taper the device so the top edge can be thick enough to accommodate the headphone jack. Long term: wireless earphones.

Eventually, Apple might need to either shrink or eliminate the bottom edge's dock connector. Medium term (1-2 years): thunderbolt dock connector. Long term: wireless sync and inductive charging.

So, if and when the headphone jack and dock connectors go away, Apple will be able to make non-tapered iPhone / iPod touch. There are many 3rd party device makers who wouldn't like it if Apple removed the headphone jack and/or dock connector. But it might happen.

askthedust
Aug 10, 2011, 11:51 AM
prefer this look to the iphone 4. but agree that the screen should be centered. iphone 4 is ugly compared to previous gens this returns it back original look and probably helps with that antenna issue...

mlmwalt
Aug 10, 2011, 11:52 AM
I really don't think they'd change the shape of the home button it's too iconic now and I believe they have a patent on the circle one. Maybe it won't be a physical button this time and they need the extra area for gestures [if the case designs are accurate of course].


Agreed. The home button is totally iconic now. I can't see them dumping it anytime soon. I don't care if they do, as the iP5 will be my first iP. I just want it soon, my current phone has been acting totally wonky lately...

Man9z0r
Aug 10, 2011, 11:53 AM
I hope this phone comes out soon so I can find a used iPhone 4 for cheap! :D

vitzr
Aug 10, 2011, 11:54 AM
I like everything except the fact it does look out of proportion, due to the edge to edge display along the sides.

Why not make the body a bit larger so a proper border could be created around all sides of the display. The way it is, it will be hard to keep cases from overlapping the sides, thereby obscuring part of the display.

Even if one goes case-less, it still looks a bit odd.

In addition, upon being dropped, the sides are particularly vulnerable since the screen runs right to the edge.

CplBadboy
Aug 10, 2011, 11:54 AM
I'll have some of that!!!!!!!

LOL at all the people on here saying it looks pap. Those where the same crowd that said that about the iP4 and look what happened you all went out and bought it! Didnt you!

Whilst the ip4 is a canny design it certainly can be improved upon and I'm liking the new home button if it comes to fruition. Whats important is have Apple resolved the antennae issue?

Roll on the release!:p

mandis
Aug 10, 2011, 11:56 AM
Not a huge fan of the ipad 2 design. Not a fan of the ipod touch design. Not a fan of this mockup either. The ipad 1, design-wise, was more related to the mac. The ios devices just don;t cut it for me with the notable exception of the iphone 4 which i concider a design classic.

Of course it's the software that makes or brakes these devices so I expect it to sell very well.

Agent-P
Aug 10, 2011, 12:01 PM
Overall I like this design. However, two things bother me: For one, the elongated home button looks terrible. I hope it remains in it's current circle shape (and as a physical button). The other thing is that I think the left and right bezel needs to be very slightly bigger. It just looks weird as is. But apart from those it looks good.

I really don't like the look of that Home button, and I hope Apple loses their obsession with "Thinner & Lighter" on their phones.

If it gets too light it'll just feel cheap, I'd prefer to have the thickness of the iPhone 4 and have a better battery inside.

I do love the idea of a bigger screen though.

I agree. The iPhone 4 just feels very well built compared to most other phones.

Trailerparkboy
Aug 10, 2011, 12:04 PM
Bring it on! Lovely design!!:p

RMXO
Aug 10, 2011, 12:06 PM
AMG, it kinda looks like my Samsung Galaxy S II and it might be even thinner & lighter. I hope Samsung sue's Apple & cock blocks them in Zimbabwe.

ct2k7
Aug 10, 2011, 12:07 PM
Personally, I don't like it.

Popeye206
Aug 10, 2011, 12:07 PM
Looking forward to seeing what's real.

I don't go for the oblong home button. Just does not seem to serve a purpose so why do it?