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Wicked1
Aug 11, 2011, 01:16 PM
Ok, so I bought a few movies on iTunes, am I reading things right in this forum that Apple puts DRM on all downloaded iTunes movies? so they can not be played on anything but iTunes?

Just curious if this is the case because then I will stop buying content from iTunes, except music which is DRM Free?

I might have heard and read incorrectly this is why I am trying to confirm.



Merkyworks
Aug 11, 2011, 01:31 PM
umm all iTunes media has DRM last time I checked

farfelu5251
Aug 11, 2011, 01:35 PM
I'm pretty positive that is the case. You can only play movies on Apple products (apple tv, iOS and itunes for windows or mac). I bought an HD movie and it can only be projected to a second monitor if the monitor uses DisplayPort. Using the adapter to DVI won't work. It's kinda lame, but it makes sense; "sharing" the movie would be much too easy without DRM.
I've decided that I won't do iTunes movies because of it. I get the DVD and make a personal digital backup that is DRM free. Then I can play it wherever. To do this, check out handbrake: http://handbrake.fr/ (there are other programs as well, but I like this the best so far... free). Good luck! :)

blevins321
Aug 11, 2011, 01:55 PM
All of the movie download companies place DRM on their media I believe, including Amazon.

bucksaddle
Aug 11, 2011, 02:09 PM
Ok, so I bought a few movies on iTunes, am I reading things right in this forum that Apple puts DRM on all downloaded iTunes movies? so they can not be played on anything but iTunes?

Just curious if this is the case because then I will stop buying content from iTunes, except music which is DRM Free?

I might have heard and read incorrectly this is why I am trying to confirm.

You heard correctly, but good luck with the content you may get from Amazon or the Playstation network (to name a couple) as they all have the same retrictions, only playable on their own devices or devices they are associated with. Blame the studios.

umm all iTunes media has DRM last time I checked

umm you need to check more often. Music has been DRM free for 2 years now.

AdrianK
Aug 11, 2011, 02:13 PM
There are tools for cracking it, and I mean losslessly.

TheBaconKing
Aug 11, 2011, 02:30 PM
There are tools for cracking it, and I mean losslessly.

For the mac there cant be more than 1 or 2. I personally use Noteburner, but (for me) it cannot do aac audio very well at all. The audio comes out distorted. I have found workarounds, but it is a hassle to say the least. Good thing I really don't purchase movies from iTunes all that often. It is really just the digital downloads I have that I am wanting to de-DRM.

peterjcat
Aug 11, 2011, 04:00 PM
Noteburner isn't lossless, it's basically screen capture and convert, and therefore basically sucks.

lowonthe456
Aug 11, 2011, 06:09 PM
Songs do NOT have DRM anymore. Movies do. Know the MOVIE STUDIOS require it. As others have said, ANYWHERE you buy movies online will have DRM.

Thats how it is.

Airforcekid
Aug 11, 2011, 06:38 PM
Best to buy the DVD then use handbrake or if your lazy just buy the DVD and then download a DVD rip.

frunkis54
Aug 11, 2011, 06:41 PM
Itunes movies also play on Quicktime :)

slothrob
Aug 11, 2011, 08:04 PM
Pretty nearly all digital movies sold by anybody, anywhere, including DVDs and Bluerays, have DRM and will only play on dedicated equipment. There's nothing really different about Apple's movies.

chrono1081
Aug 11, 2011, 10:03 PM
Songs do NOT have DRM anymore. Movies do. Know the MOVIE STUDIOS require it. As others have said, ANYWHERE you buy movies online will have DRM.

Thats how it is.

This a million times over.

Apple is NOT the ones who regulate DRM. They actually won a lawsuit or wrangled an agreement, I forget which allowing them to sell music DRM free, unfortunately the content owners of movies and TV shows do not allow that right now so that is why video is DRM'd.

StruckANerve
Aug 12, 2011, 11:40 AM
These are the kind of restrictive practices that make me torrent movies.

chrono1081
Aug 12, 2011, 08:28 PM
These are the kind of restrictive practices that make me torrent movies.

Yep. A lot of people do because of restrictions such as these.

PNutts
Aug 12, 2011, 08:44 PM
These are the kind of restrictive practices that make me torrent movies.

No, the appropriate response is to purchase the movie and then (optionally) remove the DRM.

laurim
Aug 12, 2011, 09:18 PM
No, the appropriate response is to purchase the movie and then (optionally) remove the DRM.

How about only do legal things with movies? Just an idea. Works fine for me.

Cinematographer
Aug 13, 2011, 02:23 AM
How about only do legal things with movies? Just an idea. Works fine for me.

It's legal where I live. :) And it could be legal in your country too.

rayhigh
Oct 10, 2013, 11:28 PM
How about only do legal things with movies? Just an idea. Works fine for me.

Whatever, Officer Friendly. :rolleyes:

Darby67
Oct 10, 2013, 11:42 PM
Whatever, Officer Friendly. :rolleyes:

Superb necromancy!

StinDaWg
Oct 11, 2013, 04:09 AM
I know this thread is old, but I'm surprised the movie/tv studios are still putting DRM on purchased video files. If they are concerned about the files leaking out online they aren't doing much about it because there is software to remove DRM from itunes files and they can be found all over the internet. Plus, most people will just download a Blu-ray rip for a movie because it's higher quality. The only people they end up hurting and inconveniencing in the end is legitimate paying customers. Meanwhile pirates just remove the DRM and can play it on any device for free. Legit customers have to pay and can only play it on the devices that company specifies. It's a lose-lose situation.

Jessica Lares
Oct 11, 2013, 06:25 AM
I know this thread is old, but I'm surprised the movie/tv studios are still putting DRM on purchased video files. If they are concerned about the files leaking out online they aren't doing much about it because there is software to remove DRM from itunes files and they can be found all over the internet. Plus, most people will just download a Blu-ray rip for a movie because it's higher quality. The only people they end up hurting and inconveniencing in the end is legitimate paying customers. Meanwhile pirates just remove the DRM and can play it on any device for free. Legit customers have to pay and can only play it on the devices that company specifies. It's a lose-lose situation.

Would you rather pay a $10,000 fine, or invest into a $99 Apple TV? Honestly, it's stupid that people would rather risk getting slammed for illegally obtained content, instead of doing what really needs to be done here.

The real reason of having DRM is to keep people from sharing within their group of friends. A lot of people let their intermediate friends share their Netflix account. A lot of people share their music.

"Sharing is caring" does not apply to the entertainment industry. You let it be done, and you lose revenue because then people will come up with a way to spread the costs among friends and family which easily can lose studios about $100 per movie within a group. College kids would just put it on a public server for the whole school to grab from, just like they did with their iTunes Library when people still bothered with them.

T'hain Esh Kelch
Oct 11, 2013, 07:31 AM
umm all iTunes media has DRM last time I checked
Music hasn't.

StinDaWg
Oct 11, 2013, 05:54 PM
Would you rather pay a $10,000 fine, or invest into a $99 Apple TV? Honestly, it's stupid that people would rather risk getting slammed for illegally obtained content, instead of doing what really needs to be done here.
The risk is so low it's not even worth discussing, especially if you stay off the more popular sites.

Even HBO says piracy only helps their business in the long run.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/31/hbo-thrones-piracy/

http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/time-warners-bewkes-piracy-of-hbo-game-of-thrones-is-better-than-an-emmy-1200575271/

SonomaFlyer
Oct 11, 2013, 08:06 PM
The risk is so low it's not even worth discussing,

Tell that to the folks who've been slammed. Many did a whole bunch of illegal file sharing but there were several who didn't. The risk is there and given the ability to monitor stuff these days, the risk really isn't worth it here in the U.S.

Just buy the damn DVD and make a back-up. Problem solved.

alent1234
Oct 12, 2013, 05:30 PM
Ok, so I bought a few movies on iTunes, am I reading things right in this forum that Apple puts DRM on all downloaded iTunes movies? so they can not be played on anything but iTunes?

Just curious if this is the case because then I will stop buying content from iTunes, except music which is DRM Free?

I might have heard and read incorrectly this is why I am trying to confirm.

i buy some movies on itunes, but your best bet is to buy the blu ray with an itunes/ultraviolet digital copy for movies you want to watch more than once

blanka
Oct 16, 2013, 01:36 AM
Best to buy the DVD then use handbrake or if your lazy just buy the DVD and then download a DVD rip.
Make that BluRay.
You can just play it from the drive, or with MakeMKV you can copy selected streams to a nice MKV package. For example just the main feature with 1 audio track. It is usually around 15GB.

DVD is a totally stupid medium today: it is made for either 50 or 60Hz interlaced CRT TV's at either 480 or 576 lines, with weird anamorphic stretching.
It also damages the original movie with either 4% speedup (PAL) or 2/3 telecine.
I experience that BluRays are often available at dump prizes too, so get that whenever possible. It has the highest quality of all sources, even vastly superior to the best streaming solutions like Netflix HD or iTunes HD.