View Full Version : Reasons Why England Should Join the US as the 51st State
clayj
Apr 21, 2005, 07:16 PM
1. So football (soccer) will finally get the respect here that it deserves. (MLS is OK, but it doesn't really compare to the Premier League, in my opinion.)
2. Superior grasp of the English language by Brits will rub off on Americans everywhere. (And we Anglophones need to stick together.)
3. British pubs will finally be able to teach Americans how fish and chips is properly prepared. (You use a flat fish like plaice or flounder, not a lumpy fish like cod!)
4. Brits will finally be able to take advantage of superior American technology pricing.
5. It would give Brits a good reason to send the Royal Family packing (to Australia, probably).
6. We could replace American newsanchors with British newsreaders.
7. You don't want to join the US *after* Canada, Australia, or New Zealand have already joined. Ask Hawai'i; nobody likes to be the last kid on the bus.
:)
PlaceofDis
Apr 21, 2005, 07:19 PM
haha, i can't wait for the flames to start in this thread, i have a feeling ill be doing a lot of laughing and shaking of my head, perhaps America should join the UK instead of the other way around? ;)
Hemingray
Apr 21, 2005, 07:36 PM
haha, i can't wait for the flames to start in this thread, i have a feeling ill be doing a lot of laughing and shaking of my head, perhaps America should join the UK instead of the other way around? ;)
"Sorry we bit the hand that fed us over 200 years ago, we'd like to rejoin youse guys!" I'm sure that'd go over real well. :p
Roger1
Apr 21, 2005, 07:37 PM
We can also teach the English how to drive on the "right" side of the road! :D
We could convert to pounds or Euros, and not worry about inflation (at least for a while)
Tony Blair could be our Vice President.
We could build a tunnel to Liverpool.
Knox
Apr 21, 2005, 07:40 PM
8. We (Americans) might finally learn the difference between 'England' and 'UK'/'Britain'
:p
eva01
Apr 21, 2005, 07:45 PM
But that would leave us with a predicament, England joins the US, while there is a New England which was created after England was created but joined the states earlier O_O people would get confused.
and just so i can get flamed :P
Baseball >>>> Soccer
skunk
Apr 21, 2005, 07:46 PM
Hookay...
1. So football (soccer) will finally get the respect here that it deserves. (MLS is OK, but it doesn't really compare to the Premier League, in my opinion.)And the hooligans, probably.
2. Superior grasp of the English language by Brits will rub off on Americans everywhere. (And we Anglophones need to stick together.)You might be surprised. Most Brits are as incomprehensible as most Americans.
3. British pubs will finally be able to teach Americans how fish and chips is properly prepared. (You use a flat fish like plaice or flounder, not a lumpy fish like cod!)Dunno about that. They could certainly teach you lot a thing or two about microwaves.
4. Brits will finally be able to take advantage of superior American technology pricing.That I agree with.
5. It would give Brits a good reason to send the Royal Family packing (to Australia, probably).No further reason needed. But don't be so hard on Australia: I'm sure Mugabe would be delighted to put them up.
6. We could replace American newsanchors with British newsreaders.That sounds good.
7. You don't want to join the US *after* Canada, Australia, or New Zealand have already joined. Ask Hawai'i; nobody likes to be the last kid on the bus.I can wait.
:)
stubeeef
Apr 21, 2005, 08:29 PM
I want the good scotch and beer!
US would be the winner in that match, UK may hate it though. So what happens to N Ireland?
Better yet, no customs in the bahamas! Boundless good would come from this. Submit your proposal to the UN! :p
skunk
Apr 21, 2005, 08:31 PM
I don't think we're quite ready for your Dear Leader.
stubeeef
Apr 21, 2005, 08:35 PM
I don't think we're quite ready for your Dear Leader.
Maybe your votes would sway the balance! You could then be responsible for freeing the world! With out a shot I might add. And in kind, you have to get rid of the royals.
skunk
Apr 21, 2005, 08:40 PM
Maybe your votes would sway the balance! You could then be responsible for freeing the world! With out a shot I might add. And in kind, you have to get rid of the royals.I'd be only too happy to oblige on that front. Bunch of parasites.
CorvusCamenarum
Apr 21, 2005, 09:10 PM
But that would leave us with a predicament, England joins the US, while there is a New England which was created after England was created but joined the states earlier O_O people would get confused.
and just so i can get flamed :P
Baseball >>>> Soccer
Don't forget about York, England, not to be confused with New York, or with York, Alabama. Or Birmingham, England, not to be confused with Birmingham, also Alabama. Or Edinburgh, Scotland, not to be confused with Edinburgh, South Dakota (I think). The list probably goes on.
Doctor Q
Apr 21, 2005, 09:20 PM
8. We (Americans) might finally learn the difference between 'England' and 'UK'/'Britain'Yeah, just how many nautical miles apart are they anyway?
killuminati
Apr 21, 2005, 09:47 PM
I can't stand when Americans say that another country should be added as their 51st state. That just really ticks me off.
The one I hear all the time is that Canada should be added as the 51st state (and sometimes also that they should send all their criminals up there)
clayj
Apr 21, 2005, 09:53 PM
I can't stand when Americans say that another country should be added as their 51st state. That just really ticks me off.
The one I hear all the time is that Canada should be added as the 51st state (and sometimes also that they should send all their criminals up there)I was being rather facetious... but it's not just Americans who have done this. Sir Arthur C. Clarke and Stephen Baxter (both good Englishmen) suggested in their novel The Light of Other Days that England (and Wales, but not Scotland or Northern Ireland) would secede from the EU and join the US to become part of the American economy.
And besides, Canada is obviously large enough to become SEVERAL states... with a disproportionately large number of Senators. :)
AnewMac
Apr 21, 2005, 10:13 PM
Can you imagine all of our local girls flocking to the english accent!?! The thought alone is terrifying. :eek:
mkrishnan
Apr 21, 2005, 10:18 PM
Just think of how much sooner you would have had the iTunes store! :D And just think of how much better edesignusa sounds! :eek: ;) :D
(And I don't think Clay is a Brit-hater or ethnocentric!)
clayj
Apr 21, 2005, 10:22 PM
Just think of how much sooner you would have had the iTunes store! :D And just think of how much better edesignusa sounds! :eek: ;) :D
(And I don't think Clay is a Brit-hater or ethnocentric!)Certainly not. I lived in England for three years, so I appreciate everything it has to offer. And don't underestimate the effect that all those millions of English voters would have on the US political system... the English would comprise almost 15% of the electorate.
mkrishnan
Apr 21, 2005, 10:26 PM
Certainly not. I lived in England for three years, so I appreciate everything it has to offer. And don't underestimate the effect that all those millions of English voters would have on the US political system... the English would comprise almost 15% of the electorate.
Hmmm...but Tony Blair backs George W, and it looks like he's going to do well for himself in May. I think that should be enough reason to bring the Canadians in first. :D We can beta-test out indoctrination program on them, with their crazy gravy-on-fries thinking, and then we'll get the Brits. 'Sides....this way, we get several months during which we can keep all the Tim Hortons' to ourselves! :)
killuminati
Apr 22, 2005, 12:28 AM
'Sides....this way, we get several months during which we can keep all the Tim Hortons' to ourselves! :)
RRRoll Up The Rim To Win!!!
sorry i love saying that :o
BTW clay very nice avatar, can't wait till April 29th :D
diamond geezer
Apr 22, 2005, 12:40 AM
3. British pubs will finally be able to teach Americans how fish and chips is properly prepared. (You use a flat fish like plaice or flounder, not a lumpy fish like cod!)
:)
The British make the worst fish and chips in the world.
Go to a pommie chippie and they give you soggy wet chips that have been sitting in a warming drawer to 10 minutes.
Kiwi F & C are vastly superior.
Also regarding 7. You don't want to join the US *after* Canada, Australia, or New Zealand have already joined. Ask Hawai'i; nobody likes to be the last kid on the bus.
Please don't confuse NZ with those Bush arse-kissing Aussies
mkrishnan
Apr 22, 2005, 12:46 AM
BTW clay very nice avatar, can't wait till April 29th :D
Clay, who is that in your avatar?
Go to a pommie chippie and they give you soggy wet chips that have been sitting in a warming drawer to 10 minutes.
Diamond, there's just one thing I don't understand. Every single word you just said. :eek: ;) :D
diamond geezer
Apr 22, 2005, 12:57 AM
[QUOTE=mkrishnanDiamond, there's just one thing I don't understand. Every single word you just said. :eek: ;) :D[/QUOTE]
Read my lips "NO MORE SOGGY CHIPS"
Actually the sad thing is that the English don't even realise how crap their Fish and Chips are
revenuee
Apr 22, 2005, 01:07 AM
6. We could replace American newsanchors with British newsreaders.
i'll watch CNN over BBC and my national CBC any day
mkrishnan
Apr 22, 2005, 01:10 AM
Read my lips "NO MORE SOGGY CHIPS"
I see you have very strong feelings about that. Tell me more. :D
But I feel you on the soggy chips thing...I personally hate burnt ones even more, but there's definitely an art to good chips.
Just pray, though, that when the Union Jack is traded in for the 51-stars-and-stripes, that we don't replace your beer! That would be a sad, sad day! :(
zimv20
Apr 22, 2005, 01:23 AM
Clay, who is that in your avatar?
http://www.us.imdb.com/name/nm0293509/
mkrishnan
Apr 22, 2005, 01:35 AM
http://www.us.imdb.com/name/nm0293509/
Is that him (Freeman) as Arthur Dent? *gets all excited* :D
Blue Velvet
Apr 22, 2005, 01:37 AM
The British make the worst fish and chips in the world. Go to a pommie chippie and they give you soggy wet chips that have been sitting in a warming drawer to 10 minutes.
Kiwi F & C are vastly superior.
This is true.
ham_man
Apr 22, 2005, 01:42 AM
The only reason I could see is so America could finally get some good Football. And no, the MLS is NOT Football... :rolleyes:
Man, redesigning the flag to 51 stars would be a pain in the rear end...:p
killuminati
Apr 22, 2005, 02:32 AM
Is that him (Freeman) as Arthur Dent? *gets all excited* :D
Yep
:D
7 more days :D :D
takao
Apr 22, 2005, 02:56 AM
The only reason I could see is so America could finally get some good Football. And no, the MLS is NOT Football... :rolleyes:
don't you have that ridiculous "play-off system" in your Football league as well ? that's perhaps the worst about american sports ... i can't stand that system (the thing about falling asleep during baseball, american football and basketball aside)
Jaffa Cake
Apr 22, 2005, 03:51 AM
3. British pubs will finally be able to teach Americans how fish and chips is properly prepared. (You use a flat fish like plaice or flounder, not a lumpy fish like cod!)Er... we do use cod. And haddock. When the Europeans allow us to catch the stuff, that is.
Plaice or flounder might be what they have in the south, but when you get up to Yorkshire you'll find proper fish and chip shops that serve the stuff up properly.
Mind, if we did join up with the US then at least we might end up with better teeth. :D
redeye be
Apr 22, 2005, 05:27 AM
3. British pubs will finally be able to teach Americans how fish and chips is properly prepared.
Maybe the Brits should learn from their Belgian colleagues first.
Better fries (http://www.belgianfries.com/), better (and more) beer (http://www.belgourmet.be/nl/bieren/index.php)
:D
WinterMute
Apr 22, 2005, 06:19 AM
Maybe the Brits should learn from their Belgian colleagues first.
Better fries (http://www.belgianfries.com/), better (and more) beer (http://www.belgourmet.be/nl/bieren/index.php)
:D
This from the people that brought you chips and mayonaisse???? ;) :D
Why does everyone think they do the best chips (fries for our US bretheren). It's clear that the English soggy chip and steak and kidney pie combo is far superior to any other culinary experience on the face of the planet.
...but only with HP sauce. :D
As to the original posts premise, does the phrase "Airstrip 1" mean anything?
I remember the effect my accent had in the US in the 80's, you could eat free for a month on a good RP accent in New York, especially if you dressed well. :D
cwedl
Apr 22, 2005, 06:40 AM
Yeah, just how many nautical miles apart are they anyway?
Are you joking, England is in the UK, Britain is formed from the mainland containing, england, wales, scotland and surrounding islands such as the isle of Mann, isle of wight and of course northern ireland. UK includes all of this and the rest of Ireland.
skunk
Apr 22, 2005, 06:54 AM
Are you joking, England is in the UK, Britain is formed from the mainland containing, england, wales, scotland and surrounding islands such as the isle of Mann, isle of wight and of course northern ireland. UK includes all of this and the rest of Ireland.I think the good doctor knew that...
:rolleyes:
wordmunger
Apr 22, 2005, 07:36 AM
In all seriousness, I read an article about this idea a while back. But it makes more sense for Britain to be 4 or 5 states rather than just one. C'mon, only two senators for all of Britain? To get 5 states you'd have to divide England up somehow; not sure what the best way to do that would be.
Sun Baked
Apr 22, 2005, 07:40 AM
Can't wait for the usual penis measuring contest between the states that would result as Texas, California, and England try to tell the world that they are the best state in the union.
iGav
Apr 22, 2005, 07:49 AM
Are you joking, England is in the UK, Britain is formed from the mainland containing, england, wales, scotland and surrounding islands such as the isle of Mann, isle of wight and of course northern ireland. UK includes all of this and the rest of Ireland.
Are you joking?
Great Britiain consists of England, Scotland and Wales.
The United Kingdom (or it's full title The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) contains England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
The Republic of Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom, hasn't been for a while.
;)
mpw
Apr 22, 2005, 07:59 AM
I'll take your technology (and everything else) pricing but there's little else I'd like.
TV = No, too many adverts.
Food = No, It’s not the worst in the world but it’s not as good as ours. When I was in CA a while back I couldn’t believe the size of your produce, apples were twice the size and half the flavour. GM?
Safety warnings/Lawyers = No, I don’t need a chain to be labled “Hold other end”
Taxes = How much do you pay in income tax? I pay 20% and my first £18k is tax free.
Crime = Again while in CA, I asked the hotel concierge to recommend somewhere to eat (other than McD’s next door) and he started directing us to a place less than ½-a-mile away but when we tried to leave on foot he almost fainted and wouldn’t let us go because it was too dangerous!
That said I love the States and can’t wait to get back there on holiday as you’ve got some kick-ass scenery etc.
miloblithe
Apr 22, 2005, 08:07 AM
This would really frustrate me, going to the trouble of getting dual citizenship only to learn the two countries had merged!
On the other hand, the UK has already handed over its foreign policy to the US. Why not its domestic policies? It does seem to be in the EU only to put the brakes on it.
Roger1
Apr 22, 2005, 08:24 AM
I can't stand when Americans say that another country should be added as their 51st state. That just really ticks me off.
The one I hear all the time is that Canada should be added as the 51st state (and sometimes also that they should send all their criminals up there)
FINE! Canada's out of the running!! :mad:
Unless you say you're sorry :D
Sending you our criminals is a good idea, considering you send us your trash :rolleyes:
clayj
Apr 22, 2005, 08:30 AM
As to the original posts premise, does the phrase "Airstrip 1" mean anything?Er, I'm not proposing that we rename the US to "Oceania" once England joins us. (For anyone who STILL doesn't get it, it's a reference to 1984... which I suppose is a tenuous connection to Apple because of Ridley Scott's commercial for the original Mac.)
And I think England would be fine as one big state, rather than a few smaller ones. It would be a good counterbalance to California, Texas, and New York.
miloblithe
Apr 22, 2005, 08:38 AM
Er, I'm not proposing that we rename the US to "Oceania" once England joins us. (For anyone who STILL doesn't get it, it's a reference to 1984... which I suppose is a tenuous connection to Apple because of Ridley Scott's commercial for the original Mac.)
And I think England would be fine as one big state, rather than a few smaller ones. It would be a good counterbalance to California, Texas, and New York.
Except the UK has a greater population than California and Texas combined.
Constitutionally, the UK could not join without completely getting rid of the monarchy and all nobility, or at least there could be no new nobility, which would mean it would die with this generation:
Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States.
Applespider
Apr 22, 2005, 08:40 AM
The British make the worst fish and chips in the world.
Actually, the Southern English make the worst fish and chips in the world. In London, they leave the skin on the fish when they batter it. The best chippie in the world is in a tiny fishing village in Fife called Anstruther where, in the summer, there is a queue an hour long for a fish supper. And people happy to wait that long...
Taxes = How much do you pay in income tax? I pay 20% and my first £18k is tax free.
But then again, you're in Jersey as opposed to the UK.
As far as the fruit in CA being twice the size goes, part of me always figured that it was because of better weather and growing conditions since it's been that way for years pre GM
mkrishnan
Apr 22, 2005, 08:48 AM
Constitutionally, the UK could not join without completely getting rid of the monarchy and all nobility, or at least there could be no new nobility, which would mean it would die with this generation:
I figure that if we quietly take away their titles and give them a reality TV show, it will pretty much be the same as it is now. Any disruption experienced by viewers from the 51st state should be brief and minimal in nature. :)
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