Java Update for OS X v10.3.9

[MacRumors]

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Now available via Software Update:
This update will correct issues affecting some Java users following the installation of Mac OS X v10.3.9 Software Update.

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n301382

This update corrects for the previously mentioned Java glitch (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/04/20050419071459.shtml) affecting some 10.3.9 users.

[Lacero]

Doesn't require a restart. Yay! http://www3.telus.net/poojja/s/mml.gif

[swissmann]

That was a quick fix, must not of been too big of a bug. Anyway on to Tiger!

[varmit]

$ java -version
java version "1.4.2_05"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_05-141.4)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-38, mixed mode)

Still fixed for me.

[Mechcozmo]

Good to know Apple cleans up their mistakes!

[Blue Moon]

As noted by me several hours ago... :cool:

[bubbalwz]

Good to know Apple cleans up their mistakes!

Uhh, they have yet to comment or release a fix for the Mac Mini video issues. I don't think cleaning up mistakes is at the top of Apple's list.

[finchna]

It installed on my machine though it wasn't having any problems after the 10.3.9 update--shouldn't it know if there's a problem or not by checking for the java version result? I sure hope things are still ok after a restart.

[JzzTrump22]

I had problems lauching all my java apps including limewire. So all i did was reinstall the security update and it fixed all the problems.

[HiRez]

It's a good thing that they've fixed it, but the problem should have been caught before 10.3.9 came out, therefore I vote a big fat Negative. Apple needs to stop beta-testing their products on their consumers. One of the reasons we're paying Apple $129 every year for an OS is so things like this don't happen.

[AliensAreFuzzy]

Uhh, they have yet to comment or release a fix for the Mac Mini video issues. I don't think cleaning up mistakes is at the top of Apple's list.
What video problems? I haven't had any video problems.

[quackattack]

Good to see Apple is on top of it. :D

[paulypants]

I've been using a mac mini for a couple weeks as a demo, I've used it on 3 different screens, no problems whatsoever.

[macbaseball]

I haven't had any problems - until I just logged on. Hopefully the Java update fixes it.

[chepistolas]

It's a good thing that they've fixed it, but the problem should have been caught before 10.3.9 came out, therefore I vote a big fat Negative. Apple needs to stop beta-testing their products on their consumers. One of the reasons we're paying Apple $129 every year for an OS is so things like this don't happen.

A negative? one cannot always test for problems like these, things happen problems occur. At least Apple is getting on top of things and not screwing around. Plus one does not pay $129 a year, its by choice that people are buying the os when it comes out. People should just chill, enjoy things instead of finding little problems that many people stress on. people don't stress the little things! Enjoy ur mac :D Would u rather have a windows?

[Bibulous]

page one rumor or macfact, but it works well for me but I did'nt have an issue before...

[Sedulous]

Same here: No problems on any of my three Macs before update. Not sure it is worth installing.

[sorryiwasdreami]

Went over quickly and well. My mac seems to be running much better lately since the 10.3.9 bomb.

[VicMacs]

doesnt show in tiger :eek:

[ryanw]

What video problems? I haven't had any video problems.

I have noticed that it's a little sensitive when you have a VGA monitor plugged in. If the monitor connector kinda' saggs down then the monitor goes black, but if you prop it up it works fine.

[ryanw]

doesnt show in tiger :eek:

Do you know if in Tiger "Stuffit Expander" is gone? I've heard rumors that Stuffit Expander isn't in Tiger any more. Of course if you installed Stuffit Deluxe it'd still be there, but even in upgrades it seems like Tiger is removing Stuffit Expander from systems and not installing it in the baseos.

[Nermal]

doesnt show in tiger :eek:

Maybe because the problem was caused by 10.3.9 and doesn't affect Tiger :rolleyes:

[PlaceofDis]

installing Security Update 2005-002 worked as well, but i figured id install this just for good measure

[SiliconAddict]

A negative? one cannot always test for problems like these, things happen problems occur. At least Apple is getting on top of things and not screwing around. Plus one does not pay $129 a year, its by choice that people are buying the os when it comes out. People should just chill, enjoy things instead of finding little problems that many people stress on. people don't stress the little things! Enjoy ur mac :D Would u rather have a windows?


Bull. Not at this kind of level. This is hardly an isolated incident. I deal with Windows and their PITA monthly patch release at work always wondering if I'm going to have a system that this or that patch is going to FUBAR this time around. This is the kind of BS I expect from MS who have 100,000 possible configurations to support not a company that is supposedly famed for crafting their OS around their hardware. Maybe my expectations are high but again its one thing where you have a few people here and there its another when its relatively widespread. Both people I know that have iBooks got hit with this bug and as far as I know both are running pretty much the vanilla installs of Panther. It boils down to this: Not cool.

[mac-er]

A negative? one cannot always test for problems like these, things happen problems occur. At least Apple is getting on top of things and not screwing around. Plus one does not pay $129 a year, its by choice that people are buying the os when it comes out. People should just chill, enjoy things instead of finding little problems that many people stress on. people don't stress the little things! Enjoy ur mac :D Would u rather have a windows?

One cannot test and find such a major screw-up like effing up Java on A LOT of machines? Obviously, this was was a huge problem...never seen Apple seed out a fix to one of the OS updates.

Apple was not on top of this...
1. For letting this major bug get out
2. For taking this long to get the fix out

But, at least Apple sucked it up and got the fix out there into Software Update (instead of trying to make users try and fix it themselves like they tried a few days ago)

[ccroo]

I did the Terminal Test and it came up ok. Would it hurt to download this update? One thing is for sure, Safari has been super-crashy-buggy since 10.3.9.

[Mechcozmo]

Uhh, they have yet to comment or release a fix for the Mac Mini video issues. I don't think cleaning up mistakes is at the top of Apple's list.

What video issues? If I knew about them then I might say differently.... but care to enlighten me?

[PlaceofDis]

I did the Terminal Test and it came up ok. Would it hurt to download this update? One thing is for sure, Safari has been super-crashy-buggy since 10.3.9.

it wont hurt to update so i would give it a go, maybe it will fix your issues

[ccroo]

it wont hurt to update so i would give it a go, maybe it will fix your issues

Thank you!

[Saxking20]

it wont hurt to update so i would give it a go, maybe it will fix your issues

I did the Java update before I loaded up 10.3.9 and haven't had any problems. I learned about this trick from the discussion here in Macrumors.
Should I run the security update? :confused:

[virividox]

omg still doesnt work for me!!! GAH

[ALoLA]

One cannot test and find such a major screw-up like effing up Java on A LOT of machines?

Out of curiosity, what is considered "A LOT"? Anyone have the actual percentage of machines affected? I didn't have any problems on the three Macs I upgraded (tangerine iMac, 15" FP iMac, Mac mini), nor did anyone else I know or heard from personally.

[BWhaler]

Wow, that was fast. Good work Apple.

[rikers_mailbox]

boo. Gmail and Google Maps are still messed. They work ok, but some things render strangely. I get 2 columns when viewing a mail thread. Any one else?

[nomore]

This is the kind of BS I expect from MS who have 100,000 possible configurations to support not a company that is supposedly famed for crafting their OS around their hardware.


This is soooo wrong. MS do not have to support 100,000 configurations of hardware.

Windows has libraries full of functions for Drivers to use. In abstract terms, there's a layer in Windows which is like an interface for the drivers to talk to. This layer (MS's part) doesn't change for every configuration.... the drivers (hw manufacturers part) basicly act like a translator telling this Windows layer how to talk to the hardware. It's no different from OS X.

What MS do have to contend with is their bugs and work arounds. In a version of Windows, there may be a bug which software developers figure out a workaround for... then in a later Windows release, MS try to fix the bug... but they also have to build in a messy patch to enable the software that uses the workaround to still function in the new version of Windows.

Windows XP SP2 broke some of our software. The IsDestinationReachable API function now loops once a minute for 65534 minutes... that's 45 days... so we had to do a workaround and use another mixutre of API functions.

So in that case, MS caused a problem. I've been in contact with some MS programmers in Italy... they've agreed that the fault is regression after installing SP2. They've now added it to be fixed in SP3... which isn't going to be out for quite some time.

I usually find that Apple's OS X updates are of higher reliability than their Windows XP counterparts, and certainly this Java problem is annoying for those affected... but it's easily fixed and this type of thing doesn't happen often.

[Omad0n]

I call Bull on your Bull. Just because you know a couple peopel that were affected doesn't even come close to showing any magnitude. For reference, I know a few peopel who didn't get hit with this after installing it, myself included. Yes it's ****** that it happened, fine whatever, I feel bad for those that it affected. Did it get fixed, yes, was it in a timely manner, yes. I don't get how people can get pissed if somethign happens to them or 2 odf their friends and expects that since it happened to them it's a HUGE problem. Get over yourself.

Bull. Not at this kind of level. This is hardly an isolated incident. I deal with Windows and their PITA monthly patch release at work always wondering if I'm going to have a system that this or that patch is going to FUBAR this time around. This is the kind of BS I expect from MS who have 100,000 possible configurations to support not a company that is supposedly famed for crafting their OS around their hardware. Maybe my expectations are high but again its one thing where you have a few people here and there its another when its relatively widespread. Both people I know that have iBooks got hit with this bug and as far as I know both are running pretty much the vanilla installs of Panther. It boils down to this: Not cool.

[advocate]

But, at least Apple sucked it up and got the fix out there into Software Update (instead of trying to make users try and fix it themselves like they tried a few days ago)
So, you would have preferred that Apple not give anyone a work-around as soon as they had one?

[Omad0n]

Before and after this update gmail has behaved just fine for me, can't speak for Google Maps since i don't use it. If youv'e got any questions just ask.

boo. Gmail and Google Maps are still messed. They work ok, but some things render strangely. I get 2 columns when viewing a mail thread. Any one else?

[AmigoMac]

Installed, no probs so far, actually I didn't have Java issues before, just installed because I don't like when SU lists things there for a while, annoying ...:)

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Didn't have a problem with Java after the 10.3.9 upgrade, but if every update is going to be like the last two tiny ones, not even requireing restart, then Apple may start issuing dayly updates, as far as I'm conserned... :)

[iProbot]

..... I don't get how people can get pissed if something happens to them or 2 of their friends and expects that since it happened to them it's a HUGE problem. Get over yourself.

They are just bored, and maybe have nothing else in life then to whine!!!
I agree with you :)

[morespce54]

way to go!

[juniormaj]

Installed, no probs so far, actually I didn't have Java issues before, just installed because I don't like when SU lists things there for a while, annoying ...:)

As did I.
You know, you can ignore un-needed updates by highlighting it and going to : Update>Ignore Update, or pressing "command-delete".

[musiclover137]

Great! Now on to a slightly more important problem, Pro Tools 6.9 not working with 10.3.9 OR Tiger...

[fluidinclusion]

So, you would have preferred that Apple not give anyone a work-around as soon as they had one?

No that would have been TOTALLY inexcusable. This was just partially inexcusable. Not the end of the world, but somewhat unfortunate. I hope 10.4 doesn't have these same problems. Maybe 10.3.9 was just a beta test for 10.4?

[macridah]

This is good for apple to fix so fast. My company decided to start to program in Java because all our customers are demanding it. The easiest way was for web applications and Java for stand alone apps.

My company is slow to install OS updates like that because there has to be a big QA test meeting to validate software against patches at that level. Our slow process is what prevented us to see that error, but we heard about it. It's a good thing we missed it because my company has some mac haters (programmers and VP's) and they would of tried to stick to us mac heads and said something sarcastic. Oh well, now I could say Apple is responsible and fast ... would M$ do that, that quick?

[eazyway]

I did the Terminal Test and it came up ok. Would it hurt to download this update? One thing is for sure, Safari has been super-crashy-buggy since 10.3.9.

I had no problem with MAC OS 10.3.9 but Safari ran slower and quirky. Then I reset Safari and it ran much better but still not quite as fast as before.
Then I installed the update and boy did it start to run smooth and MUCH faster.

[MacPhreak]

Bull. Not at this kind of level. This is hardly an isolated incident. I deal with Windows and their PITA monthly patch release at work always wondering if I'm going to have a system that this or that patch is going to FUBAR this time around. This is the kind of BS I expect from MS who have 100,000 possible configurations to support not a company that is supposedly famed for crafting their OS around their hardware. Maybe my expectations are high but again its one thing where you have a few people here and there its another when its relatively widespread. Both people I know that have iBooks got hit with this bug and as far as I know both are running pretty much the vanilla installs of Panther. It boils down to this: Not cool.

You've been awful cranky with Apple the past couple of weeks... Maybe we ought to chip in and buy this poor bloke a Packard Bell running Win ME?






(Just kidding, just kidding... :) )

[achmafooma]

boo. Gmail and Google Maps are still messed. They work ok, but some things render strangely. I get 2 columns when viewing a mail thread. Any one else?
I noticed Google Maps get wonky after the OS X 10.3.9 update and Safari 1.3. After seeing your post, I went to try it again and it works fine now. I suspect Google fixed it on their end.

As for the Java update, I installed... but I didn't have any trouble in the first place.

[Disturbed]

I thought it was me at first... But a friend of mine has the same issue. After the update, I cannot resolve any local addresses:
http://localhost
http://127.0.0.1
http://192.168.1.15 (My router)

Does anyone else have this issue? I can still access all of these addresses in Firefox and IE. It's just Safari.

I have repaired permissions and local address still do not resolve!
:confused:

[Frisco]

Yeah since this update Safari and Gmail don't work that good. I mean Safari and Gmail never worked that well, but this update made it worse. Oh well I use Mail anyway.

[aprilfools]

I really didnt have a problem before the update but I went ahead and did the update anyway. This is what I get now so I guess im okay?

Last login: Fri Apr 22 08:17:22 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
[eMac:~] benjamin% java -version
java version "1.4.2_05"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_05-141.4)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-38, mixed mode)
[eMac:~] benjamin%

[wdlove]

Good for Apple to admit that it made a mistake, and then to quickly followup with an update. I hope that this will work for my wife.

[FoxyKaye]

Mmmm... Just installed it and now I feel all warm and Java-y.

I was 1 for 2 on the 10.3.9 Java glitch: It installed OK on my Mini at work, and I got the glitch on my home machine. Ran the separate installer for Security Update 2005-002 at home and everything is A-OK, but I'm installing this update on both for extra good measure.

I concur with the general wonkiness of Safari since 10.3.9 - I've also had GMail load funny (though as previously noted, GMail never played that well with Safari) and a few others. I suppose it's too much to expect an independent Safari update for Panther this late in the game before Tiger...

[Tuned MP5T]

Ok is me or is this update making my Mac mini run extremely slow? I never had a problem until this update. What gives???? :mad:

Not got for someone who is a new Mac user. :(

[walkingmac]

ok.... even with this update safari still crashes. I would have to agree too that my mac seems to be a bit more sluggish under 10.3.9 then before. I know I will get getting Tiger when it comes out, but I almost feel Apple might be doing this on purpose. I mean, in the shadow of the soon to be released of the best Mac OS yet, they release a software update that effects so many users. maybe a bit much of a conspiracy, but just seems weird... almost too M$ like. :eek: strick me dead

[Mechcozmo]

To everyone that has issues:

1. Try restarting first, that may help clear out old files, even though the update doesn't require it.

2. Repair your permissions


(You can find instructions on how to Repair Permissions around here on the forums... and if you need help restarting please don't ever ask me to do you tech support. My patience has its limits, even for a Mac user.)

[wdlove]

I just downloaded the Update this morning, so far haven't noticed any difference.

[bowzer]

I dont know if it was this update specifically, but I had updated to 10.3.9, all was good then I did the security update and now my hard disk on the desktop isn't showing the available hard drive space, only the total? :confused:

It was fine in 10.3.9... I logged into another user's account, still the same problem. I logged in as root and its okay... and on stuff like my portable hard drive or ipod its okay. Any ideas?

[walkingmac]

To everyone that has issues:

1. Try restarting first, that may help clear out old files, even though the update doesn't require it.

2. Repair your permissions


(You can find instructions on how to Repair Permissions around here on the forums... and if you need help restarting please don't ever ask me to do you tech support. My patience has its limits, even for a Mac user.)

yes yes... i am not a novice when it comes to these usual and basic troublehooting. Repairing permissions, restarting, other usesrs / root user, nothing. Safari will not work. I have not noticed any other apps with issues, but like I said, the whole system feels bloated, not snappy like it usually does.

Good for me though that i wasn't asking for YOUR help, just stating where my machine was at wondering a) if anyone else is in the same place I am and b) if they have or if anyone else has hear of a way yet to fix it since Apple has yet to. Chill out, take it easy, and understand that there are many in the mac community whose computers have been affected once again by an OS update which has yet to be sufficently repaired. No one is asking you to answer all the problems with their computers, thats the point of a community.

now... off the soap box, anyone got any answers or hear of anyone working on anything with this issue?

[Bobak]

while reading this thread i noticed that "AliensAreFuzzy" and "Mechcozmo" should consider changing the content of their signatures.

i know it is off topic but someone has to say it.

[IanC]

while reading this thread i noticed that "AliensAreFuzzy" and "Mechcozmo" should consider changing the content of their signatures.

i know it is off topic but someone has to say it.

Mac for Productivity, Palm for Portability, Linux for Stability, and Windows for Solitaire
...its true. Watch a Windows user for ~10 minutes. They will play solitaire. Amazing how well a P4 3.6 Ghz HT with a 128MB graphics card will do when you play that game... 1 GB of RAM does well too...


I see no problem?