Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) Shipping

[MacRumors]

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MacNN cites (http://www.macnn.com/articles/05/04/22/apple.ships.tiger/) the first user report of Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) shipping from the online Apple Store.

One user's shipment confirmation for the product places it for delivery on April 25th, 2005 via Fedex Ground.

The official worldwide launch is to take place on April 29th.

[sedarby]

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MacNN cites (http://www.macnn.com/articles/05/04/22/apple.ships.tiger/) the first user report of Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) shipping from the online Apple Store.

One user's shipment confirmation for the product places it for delivery on April 25th, 2005 via Fedex Ground.

The official worldwide launch is to take place on April 29th.

Has Apple ever shipped a week early before?

[jcshas]

It's true - mine shipped! Yippee!!!

[ASP272]

Early bird gets the worm! Lucky dog!

[Duujo]

Yeah baby!

I'm gonna check my order now! (Even though i'm in australia).. just as soon as my cursor stops screwing around on my erratically, just after i installed that Tab safari thing by that guy who does stuff with version 4.7 and that..

yeah.

Edit: ahh boring.. still open, and due on or before 28th of April.
Still! One day early would be.. cool..?.. :p

[azdude]

Mine's gone from "Open" to "Processing Order."

Hopefully that means it'll ship today.

[Diatribe]

You guys suck :p I want mine too, it's still open. Nah, I am happy for all of you, that way you get to find all the bugs before us and we know what will erase our hard disks. :D

[danm]

Mine's gone from "Open" to "Processing Order."

Hopefully that means it'll ship today.

Ditto with mine ;)

[NevadaJack]

My status is Processing Order and shows 2 day delivery. Should get here early next week. :D

[iriejedi]

Mine's gone from "Open" to "Processing Order."

Hopefully that means it'll ship today.


Same here - so assuming apple maintains its past patterns.... it ships today but FedEx will NOT get the package until Monday and I get it on Wednesday. They are really good at getting tracking numbers but missing the fed ex truck!

[adamfilip]

Mine says "processing order"
does that mean it will ship today?

[cowboy1980]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.

[itsbetteronamac]

Yup, processing order for me. And, says it will be delivered by the 28th.

[cowboy1980]

Mine also states processing order and delivery on or before 28th.

[vouder17]

Mine is still on 'open'. But i do live in Holland..

Wait never mind..it has also changed.....woohoo :D :D :D

[virividox]

i cant wait till i get my copy in june :) but im eagerly awaiting reviews from you guys who have pre-ordered :D

[machan]

mine says delivery on or before 4/28

sidenote: my final cut studio upgrade is slated for delivery on or before 5/31

[iGary]

"Processing Order"

I'm glad. I'd be pissed if it arrived while I was away. :rolleyes: :p

[cowboy1980]

I want it NOW. I don't enjoy waiting, and it's not true that good things come to those who wait.

[cowboy1980]

I heard that some website accidentally send out a couple of orders.... I think macmall or something like that.

[Dalriada]

Mines been "Processing Order" for 48 hours now so it means just that ... not yet shipped. :rolleyes:

- Dal

[powerbook911]

In the United States, Apple has simply changed "open" status to "Processing Order." It is their new terminology.

As far as those who shipped, that is amazing, and it ticks me off a bit. I want mine! :)

[vouder17]

Ok now i am confused...when i log in at applestore.com it says it is processing order. then when i log into applestore.nl it says open.

I am believing the US page :p :p

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

My family pack is still "just" Open... :(

[Abstract]

I'm not even getting it delivered, so I guess I'll be getting it on the 29th.

Hey, if I use my iPod to back up my HD, and I erase my HD and do a fresh install of Tiger, will iTunes erase my iPod when I first plug it in, as my library on my Mac is empty and iTunes syncs my iPod to my iTunes library?

I'm just preparing for the big day (29th for me). Hope you guys report the bugs here so that I can wait for updates before installation. :)

[ImAlwaysRight]

You know what this means?

NEW POWER MACS, IMACS, AND EMACS ON TUESDAY ALL SHIPPING WITH OS 10.4!!!

:) :rolleyes: :cool: :p :D :eek: ;)

[vouder17]

My family pack is still "just" Open... :(


Check at the US store...They give a better order status.

[Sutekidane]

Mine says processing order, but this is the first time I've check out my order status, so I don't know if it said anything before.

[cowboy1980]

Mine said open the hour after I ordered then went right to processing

[powerbook911]

Once again, I would like to point out that this week Apple U.S. store changed the terminology for order status. "Processing Order," is the new term for "open."

I find it very strange that Apple has already shipped Tiger to someone. We'll going to have to see, if anyone else reports this today. I just don't see it happening. For example, I didn't pay for shipping, and they have my order at 2-day air, so I'm sure they aren't going to want to send it out until just a couple days before the 29th. Unless they decided to save on shipping and they are shipping some of the orders via ground, a week early, and if you live close to the starting point you'll get it quite a bit early.

[MacBandit]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.


I ordered a .Mac box package a couple weeks ago when it was on sale and it came FedEx.

[cowboy1980]

Piss & ****. Maybe they only use DHL for AppleCare services.

[wordmunger]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.
FWIW my most recent Apple Store shipment (three days ago) came via UPS.

[tamtam]

My order is in "processing order" state and is listed as on or before 4/28.

[dukeblue91]

Mine is showing processing order too :)
Sure be sweet to have it a few days early :D

[cowboy1980]

Well- if I don't get my Tiger by Friday, then I will sue for false advertising. If they can sue for leaked information, I can sue for that.

[Peace]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.

3 years ago I ordered my first product from Apple and it was shipped "next day DHL" but living out in the woods like I do DHL doesnt deliver in this area.Needless to say it took 4-5 days to get to me via a middleman delivery service.I called Apple and griped and since then all my orders have shipped via FedEx..

:)

[pounce]

amazon has also changed their estimated ship times. mine says i'll get it on may 4, and they tend to be conservative in how they list estimated ship/arrival times. in the past, i've gotten things from them sooner than the date they listed, so i'll have it before the 4th i'm guessing, and still with the preorder discount.

[xsnightclub]

Well- if I don't get my Tiger by Friday, then I will sue for false advertising. If they can sue for leaked information, I can sue for that.

You have the right to sue any one for anything you want. It is whether or not you have a valid claim. If not you would open yourself to being countersued, so tread lightly.

My two iSights were delivered via FedEx on Tuesday (although he was driving a Ryder truck, cause his regular truck was down.)
Everything I have ever ordered from Apple has come Fedex, I hope they continue to use Fedex their tracking system is way better than UPS.

[Booga]

Has Apple ever shipped a week early before?

Yes, they regularly do this with software releases so they can offer free shipping, then ship ground (up to 5 days,) which is a lot cheaper. So it's fairly common for them to ship pre-orders via ground 5 business days before "release".

[primalman]

For days now I have not been able to access the "My Account" or "Check Order Status" pages at the Apple store, regular and edu. Anyone else having this issue? I get a Bad Server Request page.

Safari on X.3.9

Edit: I just tried with Explorer [yuk], and it worked. ?

[Platform]

Nice

Well this is a bit wired but cool though nearly a week early

[sumsugar]

Just got my MacMall tracking info and I am supposed to recieve it today. It's like an early xmas gift!

[maclamb]

Mine's gone from "Open" to "Processing Order."

Hopefully that means it'll ship today.


Me too :p

AND
my pb 17 is due to arrive today - 3 days early -
Woo f*cking Hoo :D

[joeboy_45101]

Looks like mine went from "Open" to "Processing Order", this doesn't really mean anything for me because it stills means that Apple hasn't shipped anything. When it changes to "Shipped" then the fun will begin.

[powerbook911]

Just got my MacMall tracking info and I am supposed to recieve it today. It's like an early xmas gift!

MacMall is shipping this thing early. wow. I wonder, if I can call them and get next-day saturday delivery for April 23?

Sumsugar - What day did they ship it?

[nado]

Could anyone please tell me if Tiger ships with Java 5? I need it for work and until it's out on the Mac, I'm stuck with a PC for my contracts. I looked at the list of new features (http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/over200.html) and there's no mention of Java... :(

[Twinkie]

It was a tough call for me... pre-order online and get it first, or go to the nearest Apple Store at 6:00.

While it would be nice to get it a couple days early, I decided not to miss out on going to the Apple Store next Friday to buy it. Being a recent switcher, I want to see how it compares to standing in line at CompUSA to buy Windows 95/98/ME/XP at midnight :D

[NevadaJack]

You know what this means?

NEW POWER MACS, IMACS, AND EMACS ON TUESDAY ALL SHIPPING WITH OS 10.4!!!

:) :rolleyes: :cool: :p :D :eek: ;)

I hope you "are always right."

[Sunrunner]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.

Cool. What other cool insights can you give us.

[Sunrunner]

I want it NOW. I don't enjoy waiting, and it's not true that good things come to those who wait.

Amen to that. Im getting Tiger with my new Powermac... now if only Apple would hurry up and release those dual-cores...

[SilentPanda]

Since I'm a student developer and mine just "arrives" at some point I doubt I'll even get a notice... which is fine I guess since I won't be checking it every day "just in case"... :)

But I'm just gonna install a friend's since his will be here on the 29th and although I know I have one coming I really have no idea when...

[t300]

Yes, Apple uses DHL for for all Applecare needs such as iBook, iPod, and Powerbook repairs.

And my .Mac box came in 2 days ago via UPS.

[SilentPanda]

While it would be nice to get it a couple days early, I decided not to miss out on going to the Apple Store next Friday to buy it. Being a recent switcher, I want to see how it compares to standing in line at CompUSA to buy Windows 95/98/ME/XP at midnight :D

People stood in line to buy Windows? :confused: :p

I've actually never been excited over a Windows release (I have a Windows box at home too) while every OS X release has been exciting... I think it's that there usually aren't much for "new features" for a "boring" user in Windows whereas OS X does offer more... ah well.

[cgmpowers]

The last OS was the same way. It shipped before it should have, if thinking it ships 2day but.. I want to say mine shipped a week early but still didn't get here until the day of release. The shipper probably just held it at the local shipping depot until the date to assure its arrival ON TIME...not early. I would assume this is an Apple/Shipper agreement.

Yes, they regularly do this with software releases so they can offer free shipping, then ship ground (up to 5 days,) which is a lot cheaper. So it's fairly common for them to ship pre-orders via ground 5 business days before "release".

[cgmpowers]

I remember it being released at CompUSA at something like MIDNIGHT. The local news station had a camera showing people standing at the door, then rushing past (nearly running over) sales people and one salesperson screaming "Its just an operating system, SLOW DOWN!!!"...

I got a huge chuckle out of it...sort of like those who stand in line to see Star Wars...geez, the movie sucked...just wait a few days, it'll be on DVD.

People stood in line to buy Windows? :confused: :p

I've actually never been excited over a Windows release (I have a Windows box at home too) while every OS X release has been exciting... I think it's that there usually aren't much for "new features" for a "boring" user in Windows whereas OS X does offer more... ah well.

[Twinkie]

People stood in line to buy Windows? :confused: :p

I've actually never been excited over a Windows release (I have a Windows box at home too) while every OS X release has been exciting... I think it's that there usually aren't much for "new features" for a "boring" user in Windows whereas OS X does offer more... ah well.:rolleyes:

I guess if I'm to follow Mac zealot suit here... Yes, people stood in line. Who wouldn't want an upgrade as soon as possible when you're running Windows 3.1 / 95 / 98 / ME.

OMG M$ LOL BILL GATES IS THE DEVIL AM I RITE M$ M$ M$ M$

[iShater]

I'm debating whether I should upgrade to Tiger from Panther or not. I have an 800Mhz G3 iBook with a Radeon 7500 32MB VRAM graphics card.

Will I see a major performance hit if I upgrade? any thoughts on that or directions to Apple info that can help me in that decision? :confused:

Thanks.
[edit] corrected video card [/end]

[iGary]

Two guys waiting in line to buy XP:

"Hey, what virus are you gonna get first?"

"Oh, hell with the viruses, I'm hoping I get some really vicious malware when I connect to the Internet."

"Hell yeah!" "Maybe I'll get lucky and get adware pop-ups all over the place, and then the system will crash!"

"That would ROCK!"

"God damn, I wish they would open the doors, I've been waiting forever for this. "

:D

[varmit]

Shipping, some people have already gotten it. http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/5543/

[macridah]

Cool ... the 25th! 4 days early! jealous :(


Can't wait ... I told me work I have a dr. appt next friday so I could leave work early to line up at an Apple store to get a new mac :D , try to win a prize, and hopefully get a free gift ;) .

Last time I went to a SF event, Mr. Jobs was there. I'll take pics and post if he is.

[cowboy1980]

Yes you should upgrade!
You will see some performance increase.


I'm debating whether I should upgrade to Tiger from Panther or not. I have an 800Mhz G3 iBook with a Radeon 9000 graphics card.

Will I see a major performance hit if I upgrade? any thoughts on that or directions to Apple info that can help me in that decision? :confused:

Thanks.

[shawnce]

Has Apple ever shipped a week early before?

Yes on many things.

[Twinkie]

I remember it being released at CompUSA at something like MIDNIGHT. The local news station had a camera showing people standing at the door, then rushing past (nearly running over) sales people and one salesperson screaming "Its just an operating system, SLOW DOWN!!!"...

I got a huge chuckle out of it...sort of like those who stand in line to see Star Wars...geez, the movie sucked...just wait a few days, it'll be on DVD.Actually, there was a lot more to it than that.

For instance... the night Windows 95 came out, you could get an 8mb SIMM for $95. At the time, they were going for closer to $200.

When Windows 98 came out, they were selling 17" CRT's for $98 (which were going for well over $200 at the time) and new PC's for $198 (remember, this is well before the days of Dell's $299 system du jour).

When ME came out, they had a live band, free drinks, and lots of other free crap (I think I still have a Swatch-like Windows ME watch around here somewhere) as well as the usual sprinking of ultra-cheap sales.

Though, the XP launch was surprisingly spartan by comparison.

Anyway... I think most of the people who were there at (or before) midnight were there for the sales more than the new version of Windows. At the launches before XP, a lot of the sales were first-come-first-served. If you were one of the first three people to the back of the store, you got to walk out with an unbelievably cheap computer / monitor / whatever. Stuff so cheap that you'd be stupid not to buy it even just to sell it for $50 more before you left the parking lot.

Of course, we can go down the "Everything Is A Microsoft Conspiracy" path and wonder if the sales were subsidized by Microsoft to make the Windows launches look much better than they would have if the only thing people would have got by standing in line was a chance to pay full retail pricing on a new version of Windows ;)

[shawnce]

Could anyone please tell me if Tiger ships with Java 5? I need it for work and until it's out on the Mac, I'm stuck with a PC for my contracts. I looked at the list of new features (http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/over200.html) and there's no mention of Java... :(

Amazingly the NDA is still in place... but if it isn't listed... it is well known that a Java 5 developer preview has been available for a while now.

[Pismo]

I pre-ordered my copy on 4/12 from Apple and tthe status has been "Processing order" since then. I checked my status 5 minutes ago and says it'll be shipped on or before 4/29/05. I hope it ships today though but I can wait if it doesn't.

[discoteca]

For days now I have not been able to access the "My Account" or "Check Order Status" pages at the Apple store, regular and edu. Anyone else having this issue? I get a Bad Server Request page.

Safari on X.3.9

Edit: I just tried with Explorer [yuk], and it worked. ?

If its the same problem I had then you need to delete all your cookies for the apple site and it should work fine, no idea why it happens.

[iGary]

OMG, I just watched the Ballmer dance video. :eek:

[powerbook911]

I just placed a MacMall order, with Fedex Next-day Saturday delivery. Here's hoping...

I called them and they said it is "scheduled for April 29," but I'm still taking my chances.

For those of you who are getting it already from macmall, pcmall, and clubmac (all same company), when did you order? They say it shipped to you next day air, did you pay for that shipping service?

[fps]

I'm in London (UK). Order Date: 12/04/2005 04:58 PM GMT and it stills shows as "Open" :(

[Zaty]

My status is "Processing Order". So it seems European shipments are also being processed. I might be able to enjoy Tiger before the actual release party next Friday :)

Edit: It still says "on or before 04/29/05" though

[ipacmm]

My status is Processing Order, and it now is shipping w/ 2-day!

[mac-er]

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this...did anyone notice the other changes to the order status page?

They've added two new categories:

Replaced with New Product
We constantly strive to bring you the latest technologies, and one of our innovations has affected you. After you placed your order, we introduced an upgrade to a product you wanted, so we replaced the product with the upgraded version. The total cost of your order has not increased. You can get the details about your new product by visiting the Apple Store.

Sent to Manufacturing
We're building your system according to your custom specifications.

And you are now able to actually click on the order status messages, click to cancel (I think you always had to call to cancel), and they've made a small change to the buttons.

[Multimedia]

My Tuesday Morning April 12th Order Still Says "Processing On or Before Thursday 4.28" :( I am in Santa Cruz CA. I wonder where the reporting person lives?

[Zaty]

I'm in London (UK). Order Date: 12/04/2005 04:58 PM GMT and it stills shows as "Open" :(

Check the US store, it gives you more details than the Euro store.

[Doctor Q]

It was a tough call for me... pre-order online and get it first, or go to the nearest Apple Store at 6:00.Some of us do both!

[powerbook911]

Some of us do both!

Indeed.

I've also now got 3 pre-orders in. Apple.com, Amazon, and MacMall. Who is going to deliver first? :)

[shawnce]

If folks haven't already noticed Apple lists what the different stati ;) mean.

http://store.apple.com/OrderStatus/Images/orderstatusdetail.html

[berkleeboy210]

Mine's gone from "Open" to "Processing Order."

Hopefully that means it'll ship today.

mine's been @ "processing order" for a few days now. although the shipping method was upgraded from ground to 2 day.

[wookitus]

For days now I have not been able to access the "My Account" or "Check Order Status" pages at the Apple store, regular and edu. Anyone else having this issue? I get a Bad Server Request page.

Safari on X.3.9

Edit: I just tried with Explorer [yuk], and it worked. ?

I always get this error with safari on the apple store. No idea why. Other browsers work.

[macg4dude]

My was shipped two days ago on the 20th and I order my copy through MacMall.com

[shawnce]

I always get this error with safari on the apple store. No idea why. Other browsers work.

Never seen it with Safari on my systems.

[Peace]

"April 22, 2005 - 11:17 EDT A handful of MacMinute readers report receiving shipping notices for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger from the online Apple Store and MacMall. Two readers even informed us that they've already received their ordered copy of Tiger."





I'm guessing this is a first come,first served kinda thing.Those that ordered the first day are starting to receive Tiger..

[powerbook911]

"April 22, 2005 - 11:17 EDT A handful of MacMinute readers report receiving shipping notices for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger from the online Apple Store and MacMall. Two readers even informed us that they've already received their ordered copy of Tiger."





I'm guessing this is a first come,first served kinda thing.Those that ordered the first day are starting to receive Tiger..

Maybe that is the case with MacMall, but I don't know about Apple.com. I ordered within the hour of when they made Tiger available, and it hasn't shipped to me.

[vieoray]

If its the same problem I had then you need to delete all your cookies for the apple site and it should work fine, no idea why it happens.

thanks a lot, this clearned up the problem i was having. for months i couldn't access the order status page. strangely enough it was only a safari problem; using internet explorer would work.

[fps]

Check the US store, it gives you more details than the Euro store.

Indeed it shows "Processing order" :)

[MacStarbird]

Me too :p

AND
my pb 17 is due to arrive today - 3 days early -
Woo f*cking Hoo :D

Hey, my pb 17" (ordered sunday night) is due to arrive today (Currently "Out for Delivery" on ups.com). My queestion is this. I ordered the "up-to-date" flat pack 5 minutes after my order of the pb. does that count as a "pre-order" or does that only apply to retail boxes?

and .Mac question. They used to take $30 off your next .Mac year when you purchased a Mac. I am not due until October (as may of us old iTools users are). Will I save the $30 then? Or do you think (like I do) that the $70 is the new price (since it seems to be more ingrained in Tiger than it was in Panther)?

so tonight - I get to move from my iMac G3 to my PB G4. <vader>This will be a day long remembered.</vader>

[Object-X]

Could anyone please tell me if Tiger ships with Java 5? I need it for work and until it's out on the Mac, I'm stuck with a PC for my contracts. I looked at the list of new features (http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/over200.html) and there's no mention of Java... :(
Doesn't look like it.
Java OS X (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/java/)

More info here (http://community.java.net/mac/)

[Nall]

Could anyone please tell me if Tiger ships with Java 5? I need it for work and until it's out on the Mac, I'm stuck with a PC for my contracts. I looked at the list of new features (http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/over200.html) and there's no mention of Java... :(
You're definately not the only person to ask about this, since the two have been developed together.

Java 5 requires 10.4 (and is in beta), but is not included on the 10.4 DVD (apparently). Apple won't say when when we'll see it.

It's currently only available for high-paying ADC members (since only they have 10.4 betas), but maybe in a few days when everyone has it they'll release a public beta. Here's hoping, anyway.

[MacManDan]

Doesn't look like it.
Java OS X (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/java/)

Well, yes and no. Tiger doesn't ship with it but it is offered as a "preview" download for developers:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2
You might have to get an ADC account (maybe the free one will work?)

My Tiger pre-order also has not yet shipped from Apple. :rolleyes:

[Nall]

Well, yes and no. Tiger doesn't ship with it but it is offered as a "preview" download for developers:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2
You might have to get an ADC account (maybe the free one will work?)
Presently, JDK 5 doesn't show up to free ADC members. Although I guess Apple could sniff your browser info to see what OS X version you're running.

My Tiger pre-order also has not yet shipped from Apple. :rolleyes:
Mine either. "Processing order", which it's said for the last few days.

[rog]

I'm debating whether I should upgrade to Tiger from Panther or not. I have an 800Mhz G3 iBook with a Radeon 9000 graphics card.

Will I see a major performance hit if I upgrade? any thoughts on that or directions to Apple info that can help me in that decision? :confused:

Thanks.

How'd you manage to get a Radeon 9000 shoved into an iBook G3?

[timbuk2]

hi, i have one general question:
how long does it normaly shows "preparing shippment" ??? i have this status now for about 5h and im just wonderin how long it takes to pack something...

[PeteY48]

Java 5 requires 10.4 (and is in beta), but is not included on the 10.4 DVD (apparently). Apple won't say when when we'll see it.


Actually Java 5 is at the very end of beta. You might try installing Tiger next week, wait a week, and then try software update. You might be surprised.

[DPazdanISU]

For days now I have not been able to access the "My Account" or "Check Order Status" pages at the Apple store, regular and edu. Anyone else having this issue? I get a Bad Server Request page.

Safari on X.3.9

Edit: I just tried with Explorer [yuk], and it worked. ?

i had this problem, it creaped me out that Safari wasn't opening Apple site correctly :eek: i had to reinstall safari :eek:

[Androit]

hi, i have one general question:
how long does it normaly shows "preparing shippment" ??? i have this status now for about 5h and im just wonderin how long it takes to pack something...

That probably is a blanket term for it being packed up and ready to leave but Fed Ex or whoever is picking it up hasn't picked it up yet.

[hadleydb]

Whoever gets their Tiger first post some pictures so I can see if the CD has stripes!! Thanks. Just a thing I have about Tiger Stripes... :D

[powerbook911]

hi, i have one general question:
how long does it normaly shows "preparing shippment" ??? i have this status now for about 5h and im just wonderin how long it takes to pack something...

If thats true, that is a good sign because most of us have "order processing."

[cowboy1980]

its only 9:36 in Cali - we have a full day ahead of us.

[ehurtley]

I can't get to the order status page to see the state of mine. I get a really generic web server error.
"Bad Request Error

This error indicates that an invalid request was received."

Oh well, I guess I'll see what happens.

[agentmouthwash]

mine went from "Open" to "Processing Order", but so did my Final Cut Studio - which isn't supposed to ship until may 31st. I ordered Tiger the day it was announced. I just think we are getting a little too excited over here.. Most of us won't get it until the 28th or 29th.

[benpatient]

looks like they weren't happy about the "GM leak" last week and decided to try and do some damage control!

well, it can't hurt to get it a little early, can it?

[heaven]

Austria: open
Order Date: 15/04/2005
OS X V10.4 "TIGER" RETAIL-DEU

http://web1.prag025.server4you.de/html/images/smilies/schilder/00000659.gif

[Montserrat]

Can the first to install please post a nice picture of the new default Tiger desktop image.

I prefered the Panther picture to the Jaguar and ?Puma/Cheetah ones
I still use it more often than most of the other backgrounds.

Oh and can someone confirm that the music for the intro video is actually the same **** one that was leaked?

[wdlove]

Whoever gets their Tiger first post some pictures so I can see if the CD has stripes!! Thanks. Just a thing I have about Tiger Stripes... :D

Tiger is shipping DVD. Picture link below was posted by TMay.




http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1017&message=13191208

[cowboy1980]

Hmm... about the Tiger leak. What I've come to find is most people are more than willing to purchase a copy of Tiger. But delaying the release is just silly and this is what gets people. People are impatient and want what they want when they want it. If Tiger is ready, get the freaking thing out the door. I swear Apple's marketing team has their fingers up their butt!

[timbuk2]

naaah... no stripes on the dvd...boooring ;)

4h until its here

[EANx]

I just called MacMall and they told me that Apple was shipping Tiger to distributors today and they were not shipping to individuals yet.

[shawnce]

Hmm... about the Tiger leak. What I've come to find is most people are more than willing to purchase a copy of Tiger. But delaying the release is just silly and this is what gets people. People are impatient and want what they want when they want it. If Tiger is ready, get the freaking thing out the door. I swear Apple's marketing team has their fingers up their butt!

???

[hadleydb]

Tiger is shipping DVD. Picture link below was posted by TMay.




http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1017&message=13191208


Oh man it look a lot like Panther. I wanted some stripes.. lol. :)

[cowboy1980]

???

Why can't apple allow for an online download for Tiger and attach DRM to it so you wouldn't be able to install unless you have a apple id? That would be hot...maybe I should put a patent on that idea.

[nagromme]

My Amazon order placed March 23 said shipping by end of May originally--now it says shipping estimate May 29. Probably just Apple's release date--I hope it comes earlier!

[silverone]

I can't get to the order status page to see the state of mine. I get a really generic web server error.
"Bad Request Error

This error indicates that an invalid request was received."

Oh well, I guess I'll see what happens.

Same here - looks like someone's gonna loose their job; Wow, Is demand so high that they're having to free-up more bandwidth.... Well, looks like I cant purchase Tiger just yet..

[KREX725]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.

Maybe this depends on location, because my last three Apple shipments (last being two weeks ago) came via FedEx.

[n0nsense]

Oops...I got my copy yesterday (http://www.4000essex.com/Bloggin/Archives/2005/04/who_let_the_tig.html) :)

Pre-ordered 2 weeks ago.

[timbuk2]

is it illegal, to download the gold master now, and install it?
i paid a few weeks ago via money transfer, apple has the money. so this wouldn't be illegal?!

2h left...

[Peace]

is it illegal, to download the gold master now, and install it?
i paid a few weeks ago via money transfer, apple has the money. so this wouldn't be illegal?!

2h left...
Whether or not you ordered Tiger downloading the GM would be illegal since the GM out there is illegal

[Twinkie]

is it illegal, to download the gold master now, and install it?
i paid a few weeks ago via money transfer, apple has the money. so this wouldn't be illegal?!

2h left...Assuming you're in the United States, you've already broken a few copyright laws by downloading it (unless you're a total sleazebag/leech who doesn't upload anything when using BitTorrent). Good job!

[patseguin]

WTF? It's still not seeded to us developers? I would certainly hope they make it available this weekend.

[DWKlink]

My Amazon order placed March 23 said shipping by end of May originally--now it says shipping estimate May 29. Probably just Apple's release date--I hope it comes earlier!

I just ordered 5 minutes ago from Amazon and my order confirmation says shipping 5/3. I have a feeling it will be even earlier though as their website says that it is being released on 4/29.

[adamfilip]

I live in ontario I ordered from the Apple Canada Store
I wonder if this is shipped from within canda or the states

if its in the states I hope there are no customs charges

[cowboy1980]

Don't developers have to purchase the final copy if they want one?

[Sonofhaig]

My Amazon order placed March 23 said shipping by end of May originally--now it says shipping estimate May 29. Probably just Apple's release date--I hope it comes earlier!

I'm with you... I hope Amazon ships early. Don't forget to print out your rebate form for $35!!! :)

[shawnce]

Don't developers have to purchase the final copy if they want one?

No we get at least one copy mailed to us for use as developers and by developer teams. For non developer use we buy copies as needed.

[shawnce]

Why can't apple allow for an online download for Tiger and attach DRM to it so you wouldn't be able to install unless you have a apple id? That would be hot...maybe I should put a patent on that idea.

You want to host the download of 2+ GB of data by lots of users? ...and answer the support calls on why they can't get it burned to DVD... etc.

It would be cool but not realistic at this time.

[Blue Moon]

Looks like some of you will be receiving Tiger just as I am purchasing a new computer with it pre-installed.

[shawnce]

WTF? It's still not seeded to us developers? I would certainly hope they make it available this weekend.

Apple doesn't always seed the exact release build (for download) but you will get an official copy in your "next" (depends on timing) ADC mailing.

[JackSYi]

My order is still at Processing Order, but it says shipped on or before 4/28 via 2nd Day. Hopefully I get it early, but I don't want to ruin the anticipation for the actual launch day.

[bcsmith]

You want to host the download of 2+ GB of data by lots of users? ...and answer the support calls on why they can't get it burned to DVD... etc.

It would be cool but not realistic at this time.


How much data do you think that they push out via Software Updater? I don't think that it is the bandwidth that is the issue, I think it is the DRM. Plus, most people would like to have a physical copy of their OS for installs. Also, in the event of a crash, it would be pretty difficult to fire up Software Updater...

That being said, I would love to see this someday...

[danielwsmithee]

It seams like some have not recognized that the date of 4/28 is a ship on or before date not a DELIVERY date.

[usarioclave]

Whenever I heard about Dashboard, I figured that it was an always-visible semi-translucent window layer for gadets, etc.

Apparently, Dashboard is activated like expose - you click a button (or a key) and the widgets switch-in, making your desktop into a temporary dashboard display. Then when you're done it switches the Dashboard layer out, bringing you back to whatever you were doing.

Is there a preference or something to make dashboard always-visible at 20% (or 10%) opacity?

It's kind of silly not to be able to see these widgets until you do something. It'd be much neater if they were visible all the time.

BTW, the Tiger UI seems to be about 15-20% faster then Panther on this 1ghz eMac I've got it running on. Very nice.

Most importantly, ASM still works! Yahoo!

[cowboy1980]

You want to host the download of 2+ GB of data by lots of users? ...and answer the support calls on why they can't get it burned to DVD... etc.

It would be cool but not realistic at this time.

Sorry but its no different than iTunes.

[shawnce]

How much data do you think that they push out via Software Updater? I don't think that it is the bandwidth that is the issue, I think it is the DRM.

Not sure I see the DRM issue... you would be downloading it from Apple.

No DRM exists on the Mac OS X DVD/CD to preventing you from letting friends use your disk, you ripping the disk and sharing, etc.

Apple tries to trust their users and I glad for that since adding DRM would just add to the potential issues at and after install time (as well as adding cost to Apple and users). Now if folks continue to break that trust then Apple may be forced to take action and use some type of DRM / system authentication.

Plus, most people would like to have a physical copy of their OS for installs. Also, in the event of a crash, it would be pretty difficult to fire up Software Updater...

Agreed however such a download would likely require one to burn the downloaded image to DVD before install anyways, so you would have a local physical copy.

[Hugin777]

Please post the Tiger build number if you have the release version - please !

(Apple menu -> About this Mac -> Click "Version 10.4" and it will display the build number)

Thanks in advance :)

[cowboy1980]

How much data do you think that they push out via Software Updater? I don't think that it is the bandwidth that is the issue, I think it is the DRM. Plus, most people would like to have a physical copy of their OS for installs. Also, in the event of a crash, it would be pretty difficult to fire up Software Updater...

That being said, I would love to see this someday...


Of course people should be smart enough not to download it unless they have a dvd burner.

[n0nsense]

Please post the Tiger build number if you have the release version - please !

(Apple menu -> About this Mac -> Click "Version 10.4" and it will display the build number)

Thanks in advance :)

Retail 10.4 = Build 8A428

[TDM21]

I'm hoping to get my copy of Tiger on the 29th; that's my birthday so its the perfect present. Unfortunately I have 3 days of college left (finals :( ) and I figure I better wait until afterwards to install. I would hate to be at school, install Tiger and then not be able to get on the network or internet. Yes, that is unlikely, but very possible with my school. They force all residential PCs run Cisco Clean Access (I'm sure some of you know what this program is) and last Wednesday the server refused to let my PB onto the network. Something about access denied, but was resolved within 2 hours.

[shawnce]

Sorry but its no different than iTunes.

Well the download of Tiger is about the same as 800+ songs and the connection to download that large image would stay open far longer then for song downloads (unless they split the image up into pieces... adding to the user experience).

Bandwidth is an issue, as is user experience and support that would go along with it, etc.

[shawnce]

Of course people should be smart enough not to download it unless they have a dvd burner.

You don't know the average user :D

[adamfilip]

Whenever I heard about Dashboard, I figured that it was an always-visible semi-translucent window layer for gadets, etc.

Apparently, Dashboard is activated like expose - you click a button (or a key) and the widgets switch-in, making your desktop into a temporary dashboard display. Then when you're done it switches the Dashboard layer out, bringing you back to whatever you were doing.

Is there a preference or something to make dashboard always-visible at 20% (or 10%) opacity?

It's kind of silly not to be able to see these widgets until you do something. It'd be much neater if they were visible all the time.

BTW, the Tiger UI seems to be about 15-20% faster then Panther on this 1ghz eMac I've got it running on. Very nice.

Most importantly, ASM still works! Yahoo!

all you have to do is press a single button to see it. I dont see that as being alot of work. and why would you want all your widgets visable all the time. it would be very distracting from your normal work

[cowboy1980]

THIS COULD NOT BE MORE TRUE! However, Apple is smart enough to tell their customers that they aren't responsible for any data lost. This would be included, as is the music store purchases.


You don't know the average user :D

[Sunrunner]

Maybe this depends on location, because my last three Apple shipments (last being two weeks ago) came via FedEx.

Apple uses all the different carriers; it just depends on who wins the price and timeline comparison for whatever specific item they are shipping...

[ro2002ie]

I'd say developers will get their free Tiger DVD's in the next ADC mailing, which will probably be posted out in the first week of May. I doubt it will be the fully boxed retail version... Although it would be nice if they shipped to developers at the same time as those who preordered..

In the meantime I'm running the last seeded Build 8A425 for a while now without any problems.

The only thing that might cause some folks difficulty is when you install tiger, Mail converts your MBOX file to the new EMLX format to support Spotlight, which can be a bit of a pain. Especially if you use other email clients...

Anyway a useful fix can be found at EMLX to MBOX convertor (http://vengefulcow.com/emlx2mbox/)

[Sunrunner]

You want to host the download of 2+ GB of data by lots of users? ...and answer the support calls on why they can't get it burned to DVD... etc.

It would be cool but not realistic at this time.


Sounds like a good comercial use for Bittorrent to me ;)

[shawnce]

Sounds like a good comercial use for Bittorrent to me ;)
(assuming they have a BT client our Apple hooks them up with one)

AppleSupport: Hello?
Customer: Yeah I am downloading Tiger using BT and it is going real slow.
AppleSupport: Yes that is to be expected until you stop becoming a greedy leech but lets check what ports are mapped through your NAT and firewall to insure you will get the best speed.
Customer: WTF, I am not a leech... I paid for this $^%& download... oh and NAT what?

:p

[wookitus]

Same here - looks like someone's gonna loose their job; Wow, Is demand so high that they're having to free-up more bandwidth.... Well, looks like I cant purchase Tiger just yet..

This is not due to demand I don't think. I've had this problem in the past when nothing special was going on.

[Sunrunner]

(assuming they have a BT client our Apple hooks them up with one)

AppleSupport: Hello?
Customer: Yeah I am downloading Tiger using BT and it is going real slow.
AppleSupport: Yes that is to be expected until you stop becoming a leech but lets check what ports are mapped through your NAT and firewall to insure you will get the best speed.
Customer: WTF, I am not a leech... I paid for this $^%& download... oh and NAT what?

:p


lol, good point

[adam1185]

You know what this means?

NEW POWER MACS, IMACS, AND EMACS ON TUESDAY ALL SHIPPING WITH OS 10.4!!!

:) :rolleyes: :cool: :p :D :eek: ;)

That's exactly what I'm waiting for...now who wants to buy my powerbook? :)

[silverone]

This is not due to demand I don't think. I've had this problem in the past when nothing special was going on.

There is a problem with all .Mac resources right now!
My Mail App keeps re-downloading Headers for 1900 emails over and over again - they must be doing something with .Mac; even my iDisk is 80% slower than usual. Also, just went back to the Store and the Server Error still exists. Is anyone experiencing the same issues?

[Hunts121]

I have a possibly stupid question, does apply charge you when you place your order or when it ships? I'm just curious, my order also says processing (yes I caught the post where its the new term for open) and was wondering thats all.

[Sunrunner]

There is a problem with all .Mac resources right now!
My Mail App keeps re-downloading Headers for 1900 emails over and over again - they must be doing something with .Mac; even my iDisk is 80% slower than usual. Also, just went back to the Store and the Server Error still exists. Is anyone experiencing the same issues?


They must be upgrading their servers to those unannounced Dual-dual 3.0's, lol. ;)

[shawnce]

I have a possibly stupid question, does apply charge you when you place your order or when it ships? I'm just curious, my order also says processing (yes I caught the post where its the new term for open) and was wondering thats all.
They do a verification charge (not a real charge) for big ticket items before shipment but they don't charge until shipment (it maybe sitting on the dock to be picked up by the shipper for a short while).

[Hunts121]

It seams like some have not recognized that the date of 4/28 is a ship on or before date not a DELIVERY date.

That is true, but it is guaranteed delivered by the 29th, least thats what the email told me. Meaning you will have it on or before the 29th. ;)

[swissmann]

I'm excited about this but am going to wait until the new Final Cut Suite ships so I can do a complete erase and install and have all things new. That should give everyone some time to help Apple work out some bugs.

[Sunrunner]

They do a verification charge (not a real charge) for big ticket items before shipment but they don't charge until shipment (it maybe sitting on the dock to be picked up by the shipper for a short while).

Is that a full "verifying that you have enough money to cover the transaction" charge, are a couple dollars to ensure the account is open.

[SPUY767]

12 of 72 people rated this story negative. . . I want names!

[Balin64]

Processing Now. I'm sure I'll get it on the 29th. Oh, the agony! Seriously, it's just an OS... :cool:

[sorryiwasdreami]

My order is showing "Processing order" with 2-day shipping. Anyone's educational copy ship yet?

[shawnce]

Is that a full "verifying that you have enough money to cover the transaction" charge, are a couple dollars to ensure the account is open.

Well I think it depends on the amount but I recall a full verification charge for a PowerMac I bough a couple of years back (not all card vendors list those but mine does via their online account site). Basically a reservation but not the actual charge.

I am sure a link exists on the Apple store about this... just cannot quickly find it.

[sumsugar]

Just got my MacMall tracking info and I am supposed to recieve it today. It's like an early xmas gift!

MacMall **cked it all up. Checked my ups tracking page and they turned my order around and sent it back.

WTF is up with that?

[shawnce]

MacMall **cked it all up. Checked my ups tracking page and they turned my order around and sent it back.

WTF is up with that?

Karma? :D

Likely the intent is that the shippers have the product but are supposed to hold delivery until the 29th, the day of release.

[usarioclave]

all you have to do is press a single button to see it. I dont see that as being alot of work. and why would you want all your widgets visable all the time. it would be very distracting from your normal work

Not if the translucency was set to 10-15%...and you throw your widgets onto your second monitor.

The reason is pretty simple: if something on a dashboard widget changes, you can't see it until you switch to the dashboard.

That's not a dashboard anymore, that's, well, something else...a desk accessory layer that's invisible most of the time.

[cowboy1980]

My order is showing "Processing order" with 2-day shipping. Anyone's educational copy ship yet?

I purchased mine thru the edu store and mine says by 28th shipping, HOWEVER ground delivery?!?!? WTP?

Ryan

[shawnce]

I am sure a link exists on the Apple store about this... just cannot quickly find it.
Found it... Credit Card (http://www.apple.com/support/store/shop/creditcard.html)

[liven2]

Well, I am getting the same server error as many of you... BUT when I access it with IE on my Mac I get in just fine no server error... Now this is odd.. Can someone else verify this? Or is it just me? :confused:

[j-a-x]

When I ordered, it said delivery on or before the 28th.

Now it says shipping on or before the 28th! That's not fair that they changed it like that!

I guess they thought I wouldn't notice...

[Hiroshige]

I am contemplating above action if new hardware is not released on Tuesday.
Also my plumbing has been backed up since NAB. The first time this happenned was leading up to WWDC 2003. Within 5 minutes of the G5s being announced, I had total relief.

[Hiroshige]

12 of 72 people rated this story negative. . . I want names!
These 12 people constitute the Al-Quaeda sleeper cell we have been looking for.

[mac-er]

I purchased mine thru the edu store and mine says by 28th shipping, HOWEVER ground delivery?!?!? WTP?

Ryan

Mine says shipping by 28th with 2 day shipping.

[rog]

These 12 people constitute the Al-Quaeda sleeper cell we have been looking for.
No I think they are just annoyed that they aren't one of the people who is getting it already or they planned to buy on the first day of store sales and now they're worse off than people who pre-ordered. Personally I'm annoyed because Amazon is not shipping early at least yet.

[cowboy1980]

OKAY! Just got word that the distrobution center for software is in PA. So, makes sense mine is only to be shipped ground. Does this make sense with everyone else's orders?

[shoffmueller]

This is the worst discussion - everybody posting their order status? Whew!

[cowboy1980]

can you imagine how many hits apple's order status page has had in the last day?

[MattG]

Mine says "Processing Order," but it has said that since at least yesterday (finally got the order number after placing it days ago).

[broken_keyboard]

These 12 people constitute the Al-Quaeda sleeper cell we have been looking for.

Or Bill Gates and his 11 vice-presidents in charge of Longhorn.

[bootedbear]

MacMall says it's been shipped and FedEx says it should arrive on Monday. No indications -- at least yet -- of it being "turned around" as sumsugar experienced.

[bellis1]

I just hope mine gets here before that weekend. I'm really looking forward to starting fresh. It's going to be a fun weekend re-installing all my software.

[Zargot]

For the first time ever I've ordered an OS version before seeing definitive testing done by impartial parties or myself for that matter. Of course up until this year I was buying versions of Windows! :)

On a side note, maybe the new PowerMacs are coming next week as all but the single 1.8 have changed to 3-5 day shipping...

[powerbook911]

MacMall says it's been shipped and FedEx says it should arrive on Monday. No indications -- at least yet -- of it being "turned around" as sumsugar experienced.

bootedbear-

Why don't you try to get the tracking number from MacMall? What day did you order, and what day did they ship? I just ordered today, so I really appreciate your help.

[fluidinclusion]

:rolleyes:

I guess if I'm to follow Mac zealot suit here... Yes, people stood in line. Who wouldn't want an upgrade as soon as possible when you're running Windows 3.1 / 95 / 98 / ME.

OMG M$ LOL BILL GATES IS THE DEVIL AM I RITE M$ M$ M$ M$




HAHAHAHA . That is very funny!

[james.sumners]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.

I wonder why my PowerBook arrived via FedEx then... :rolleyes:

[CubaTBird]

well im placing my order today along with life 05 so perhaps it will be here by the 29'th.. we shall c

[pimentoLoaf]

I preordered within a couple of hours of announcement; however, they still say "Processing Order". Maybe later or over the weekend?

[nate]

This is from the Apple website to end all this, "OMG, it says 'Processing Order,' it must be coming tomorrow!" Sorry, kiddies, it only means it's in their computer waiting until someone comes along, gets the box, puts a label on it, and sends it out. Then, they click a button and your status says, "shipping." Shipping takes a few days... I'm in Canada, and my free shipping is 8 - 10 days, and express (cost extra bucks) is 3-6 days. I don't know the exact shipping day totals in America, but I gather it's pretty close.

So, once it says shipping, add a few days to it and you can guess when it Tiger may be coming to your door.

In other words, start getting excited when it says "shipping," not when it says "processing."

:D

From Apple's website:

Order Status


What does my order status message mean?

Order Received
We've received your order and will begin processing it soon—usually within the hour. If you need to change or cancel your order, please check back after order processing begins.

Processing Order
In-stock items are processed immediately so that you can begin enjoying your Apple products as soon as possible. Generally, orders can be modified while they are being processed.

Replaced with New Product
We constantly strive to bring you the latest technologies, and one of our innovations has affected you. After you placed your order, we introduced an upgrade to a product you wanted, so we replaced the product with the upgraded version. The total cost of your order has not increased. You can get the details about your new product by visiting the Apple Store.

Sent to Manufacturing
We're building your system according to your custom specifications.

Preparing Shipment
We are preparing to ship your order to you, and we'll notify you by email when it ships. Unfortunately, at this point, we are not able to change or cancel your order. If you need to return your order after you receive it, please follow the simple return instructions below or contact a sales support agent.

Partially Shipped
Part of your order has left our warehouse using the shipping method you selected. We often send orders in multiple shipments so that you'll have your products as quickly as possible. The rest of your order will ship as soon as it's ready.


Shipped
We've shipped your order to you using the shipping method you selected. If you haven't received it yet, you can track your shipment from the order status page. If you need to return your order after you receive it, please follow the simple return instructions below or contact a sales support agent.

Action Required
We're having trouble processing your order because it is missing important information. Please contact us to provide the necessary information and complete the order.

Electronically Delivered
Your software download, activation key or electronic gift certificate have been delivered. Check your confirmation email for more information about how to use your product.

Complete
All the items in your order have been fullfilled. If you haven't received your order yet, you can track your status on the order status page. If you need to return your order after you receive it, please follow the simple return instructions below or contact a sales support agent.

Cancelled
Your order has been cancelled. We invite you to place a new order at the Apple Store online or call Apple sales support.

[gopher]

I'm debating whether I should upgrade to Tiger from Panther or not. I have an 800Mhz G3 iBook with a Radeon 7500 32MB VRAM graphics card.

Will I see a major performance hit if I upgrade? any thoughts on that or directions to Apple info that can help me in that decision? :confused:

Thanks.
[edit] corrected video card [/end]

Your iBook is within Apple's specs:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html

No performance hit as long as you make sure your directory is in good shape prior to installing and follow all these precautions:

http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html

[bootedbear]

bootedbear-

Why don't you try to get the tracking number from MacMall? What day did you order, and what day did they ship? I just ordered today, so I really appreciate your help.

MacMall doesn't give out the FedEx tracking number. They use an internal system. According to their tracking info, my order left Rialto, CA yesterday morning on its way to Austin.

[adamfilip]

Not if the translucency was set to 10-15%...and you throw your widgets onto your second monitor.

The reason is pretty simple: if something on a dashboard widget changes, you can't see it until you switch to the dashboard.

That's not a dashboard anymore, that's, well, something else...a desk accessory layer that's invisible most of the time.

I run two monitors myself and Still need more. I dont think i could dedicate room just for a few widgets. but. I think your thinking more of heads up display then a dash.

with a dash in a car you look down to see it. otherise your looking straight ahead.. with the apple dashboard you only see the dash when you click a button. this can be a middle mouse button if you wanted too. and since it quickly jumps in with expose.. i dont see the need for them to occupy room 100% of the time.. but i suppose having the option wouldnt hurt

[DickArmAndHarT]

Whenever I heard about Dashboard, I figured that it was an always-visible semi-translucent window layer for gadets, etc.

Apparently, Dashboard is activated like expose - you click a button (or a key) and the widgets switch-in, making your desktop into a temporary dashboard display. Then when you're done it switches the Dashboard layer out, bringing you back to whatever you were doing.

Is there a preference or something to make dashboard always-visible at 20% (or 10%) opacity?

It's kind of silly not to be able to see these widgets until you do something. It'd be much neater if they were visible all the time.

BTW, the Tiger UI seems to be about 15-20% faster then Panther on this 1ghz eMac I've got it running on. Very nice.

Most importantly, ASM still works! Yahoo!

Im not using Tiger yet, but i would never want little mini-apps on my screen over shadowing applicatoin, ohh how annoying that would be, little things u can see half see, being accidentaly clicked on everywhere

[berkleeboy210]

My order is showing "Processing order" with 2-day shipping. Anyone's educational copy ship yet?

Mine's Also an Educational Copy, and says the same exact thing as yours does. - I placed my Order on 4/13 little after 9pm Pacific.

[JackSYi]

Mine's Also an Educational Copy, and says the same exact thing as yours does. - I placed my Order on 4/13 little after 9pm Pacific.

Same here, but from my experiences from the Apple.com online store, when the status of your order changes, more importantly to shipped, they will send you out an e-mail, with the tracking number. So stand by your mailboxes.

[rockthecasbah]

I run two monitors myself and Still need more. I dont think i could dedicate room just for a few widgets. but. I think your thinking more of heads up display then a dash.
jebus, how small are you freakin' monitors?!?!?!?!?!?!? :D

[CubaTBird]

well gee.. seems like im gonna get ilife 05' before tiger.. makes sense.. i ordered both at the same time.. waited for ilife 05' till i got tiger.. so its like getting 2 new toys to mess with haha :p

[applemax]

uk edu store - processing. est ship. April 29


BTW, anyone got their seminar link yet?

[timbuk2]

wooooooooot its so ****in awesome!!!
mail.app i love you!
dashboard i love you!
spotlight i love you!

wohooooooooo! aaaasome

[aswitcher]

I'm not even getting it delivered, so I guess I'll be getting it on the 29th.

Hey, if I use my iPod to back up my HD, and I erase my HD and do a fresh install of Tiger, will iTunes erase my iPod when I first plug it in, as my library on my Mac is empty and iTunes syncs my iPod to my iTunes library?

I'm just preparing for the big day (29th for me). Hope you guys report the bugs here so that I can wait for updates before installation. :)


Yes, I think unless you were using some sort of hack that might be available around the place, iTunes will wipe your Pod...

I highly recommend you create a bunch of iTunes Backup playlists with all your music and burn them as DVD data discs (4.1 Gig each or so) from within iTunes. This will also serve you well in the future as an offsite backup against theft/fire. Once you have the discs you should be able to reimport them into your iTunes running on Tiger.

Not an expert at this but should work

[JackSYi]

Or just use a program like iPod Rip (http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/application.php?app=iPodRip), or there is another program but I forgot what its called.

[adamfilip]

jebus, how small are you freakin' monitors?!?!?!?!?!?!? :D

Im running dual 21" Trinitron CRTs
I do graphics work . IF i could easily connect two more 21's I would :)

[usarioclave]

I run two monitors myself and Still need more. I dont think i could dedicate room just for a few widgets. but. I think your thinking more of heads up display then a dash.

with a dash in a car you look down to see it. otherise your looking straight ahead.. with the apple dashboard you only see the dash when you click a button. this can be a middle mouse button if you wanted too. and since it quickly jumps in with expose.. i dont see the need for them to occupy room 100% of the time.. but i suppose having the option wouldnt hurt

Well, they don't occupy space, really. They just would sort of float there. To interact with them you'd still have to click the dashboard key/button.

Think of your monitors: one monitor is the primary, and the other one(s) have extra stuff. Your focus might shift from monitor to monitor, but (unless you have a really lazy eye) only one monitor is "primary."

The secondary monitors, well, those would be for dashboard widgets. They'd just sit on top of your other windows like ghosts.

Time to start figuring out how to hack that in. Once you see dashboard, you'd see why this would be a better idea (and the first real use for translucency I've seen).

[cowboy1980]

Sorry but I have to butt in. iTunes will not wipe your iPod. After doing a clean install or whatever, and you hook up your iPod to your computer - iTunes will then open and ask if you would like the iPod to be synced with that computer. You select no, and your music will stay on your iPod. Then you could use some software to take it off.

However here is something more simple. Turn on disk mode - delete the songs from your itunes but be sure not to have those songs go to the trash. Drag your hold music folder to your iPod disk drive and they will be ready for you to drag onto your iTunes app when you do a clean install.

Whew...that's the best way if you don't have a dvd burner. I have about 2000 mp3s with no dvd burner yet, I know what its like to lose music and it sucky!


Yes, I think unless you were using some sort of hack that might be available around the place, iTunes will wipe your Pod...

I highly recommend you create a bunch of iTunes Backup playlists with all your music and burn them as DVD data discs (4.1 Gig each or so) from within iTunes. This will also serve you well in the future as an offsite backup against theft/fire. Once you have the discs you should be able to reimport them into your iTunes running on Tiger.

Not an expert at this but should work

[Orlando Furioso]

mine says delivery on or before 4/28

sidenote: my final cut studio upgrade is slated for delivery on or before 5/31

Tiger and final cut studio. I'm jealous. I just hope Tiger brings some performance gains to Motion.

[midiman]

It seams like some have not recognized that the date of 4/28 is a ship on or before date not a DELIVERY date.

yeah, but this is what the apple store page says

"Tiger Launches on April 29
Pre-order Tiger online or by calling 1-800-MY-APPLE for free delivery on the day of launch: April 29, 2005."

[dotdotdot]

For whoever mentioned the Downloading thing, thee could be the steps:

Steps:
1) User downloads file from BitTorrent, which is 2 GB+
2) User runs application and uses password emailed to them
so the program can actually RUN
3) Once the install begins, the user enters a serial number given
in the same email
4) The user types in his email address/password exactly the same way
as they did to register to download tiger
5) Once it is 50% installed, the user must reboot his/her computer into
a new "safe mode" environment where he/she can download Tiger DRM
6) DRM downloaded, running DRM install package, requires
a new serial number, password, and proof of purchase
7) Setup resumes. The original serial number is used to make Tiger work.
8) The user must send the information to Apple servers to validate install.
9) Reboot machine and enjoy Tiger!

Needed materials: high speed internet, new apple bittorrent client (which is only downloadable after tigers purchase), DVD burner (1 DVD) or CD burner (6 CDs)

Serial number totals: 3 (4 w/ Apple ID)

When downloading DRM, it also downloads a few other files that without, Tiger can not run.

It not only would work, but would teach piraters a lesson: Pirate ANY steps and your machine is dead.

Its easier than XPs stupid activation which goes nowhere...

[Orlando Furioso]

Well, I am getting the same server error as many of you... BUT when I access it with IE on my Mac I get in just fine no server error... Now this is odd.. Can someone else verify this? Or is it just me? :confused:

I've experienced the same thing with safari on my G5 (after the 10.3.9 update). It is being a real booger. Firefox on the same comp behaves normally. Safari directs me to the right page on my PB though. I'd normally mess with fixing permissions and what-not to see if it helps, but the whole drive is going to be wiped for the upcoming Tiger install. I can live for one more week of safari nonsense.

[wtmcgee]

If it ever came to that, I'd switch to Windows or Linux.

For whoever mentioned the Downloading thing, thee could be the steps:

Steps:
1) User downloads file from BitTorrent, which is 2 GB+
2) User runs application and uses password emailed to them
so the program can actually RUN
3) Once the install begins, the user enters a serial number given
in the same email
4) The user types in his email address/password exactly the same way
as they did to register to download tiger
5) Once it is 50% installed, the user must reboot his/her computer into
a new "safe mode" environment where he/she can download Tiger DRM
6) DRM downloaded, running DRM install package, requires
a new serial number, password, and proof of purchase
7) Setup resumes. The original serial number is used to make Tiger work.
8) The user must send the information to Apple servers to validate install.
9) Reboot machine and enjoy Tiger!

Needed materials: high speed internet, new apple bittorrent client (which is only downloadable after tigers purchase), DVD burner (1 DVD) or CD burner (6 CDs)

Serial number totals: 3 (4 w/ Apple ID)

When downloading DRM, it also downloads a few other files that without, Tiger can not run.

It not only would work, but would teach piraters a lesson: Pirate ANY steps and your machine is dead.

Its easier than XPs stupid activation which goes nowhere...

[Rod Rod]

and .Mac question. They used to take $30 off your next .Mac year when you purchased a Mac. I am not due until October (as may of us old iTools users are). Will I save the $30 then? Or do you think (like I do) that the $70 is the new price (since it seems to be more ingrained in Tiger than it was in Panther)?
The $70 .Mac you buy with your Mac will be good in October. It's just a registration/renewal code pretty much. I bought my .Mac extension last year in April and I just opened its box and entered the renewal code to my account last week. Tiger's .Mac enhancements won't depend on the retail box of .Mac. They'll be integrated behind the scenes in the OS, your apps and the .Mac servers.

[arkmannj]

I ordered April 13 2005 and it'a not shipped yet
bummer

[d.perel]

It's true - mine shipped! Yippee!!!
2 weeks ago, something told me I should pre-order, but I didnt as if it were never going to come out. Well, Time to reach into the wallet... :p

[joeconvert]

Apple no longer uses fedex. They now use DHL - I used to supervisor AppleCare tier 1.

Uh, for software? FedEx droppedoffmy new PowerBook today.

[LaMerVipere]

I'm not even getting it delivered, so I guess I'll be getting it on the 29th.

Hey, if I use my iPod to back up my HD, and I erase my HD and do a fresh install of Tiger, will iTunes erase my iPod when I first plug it in, as my library on my Mac is empty and iTunes syncs my iPod to my iTunes library?

I'm just preparing for the big day (29th for me). Hope you guys report the bugs here so that I can wait for updates before installation. :)

There are lots of free applications on VersionTracker.com which allow you to transfer all the music off of your iPod without using iTunes. Just do that before you launch iTunes for the first time, and when iTunes asks you if you want it to search the HD for available audio files and add them to the Library, just click 'Yes'. :)

[vieoray]

hey, for those of you having bad server requests on apple's order status page in safari, delete all cookies from apple.com then go back and reenter your login info. this will fix the problem. its been suggested earlier in this thread by another poster, as i had the same problem.

[mac-er]

You select no, and your music will stay on your iPod. Then you could use some software to take it off.


I've never had to use software to rip off my iPod.

If I want to back-up, I just copy the /Music/iTunes Folder into my iPod, and it happily co-exists with the music that was put there by iTunes.

Then I can drag the iTunes folder back off the iPod, and voila.

[Verboten]

My new PB came in today with OS X Tiger installed!

[Multimedia]

Oops...I got my copy yesterday (http://www.4000essex.com/Bloggin/Archives/2005/04/who_let_the_tig.html) :)

Pre-ordered 2 weeks ago.
Please tell us whom you got it from and where you are. Who was the carrier and what shipping method was used - IE Air, 2nd Day Air or Ground? :confused:

[Multimedia]

My new PB came in today with OS X Tiger installed!
I can't believe it! Can you post a picture? What model PowerBook? Does it feel super fast or what? :eek:

[izzle22]

I ordered my copy of Tiger 5 min. after it was released and it hasn't even shipped yet! So where all these already delivered copys comming from? Please tell. I can understand the dood with the powerbook but all these others?

[mac-er]

My new PB came in today with OS X Tiger installed!

I'm going to need a pair of waders to get through all of this BS.

Apple's website still says they are shipping with Panther, and it usually takes awhile for Apple to get the machines loaded up. They also have to change the graphics on the box and PB manuals because they usually have OS screenshots.

There is still plenty of stock out there of Panther-loaded machines.

Prove me wrong with a shot.

[izzle22]

With all apologies to edesignuk,

http://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/bull_sht_meter.gif

Apple's website still says they are shipping with Panther, and it usually takes awhile for Apple to get the machines loaded up. They also have to change the graphics on the box and PB manuals because they usually have OS screenshots.

There is still plenty of stock out there of Panther-loaded machines.

Prove me wrong with a shot.


Yo Man that's a cooool B.S. meter and very well needed!

[Sleix]

I'm going to need a pair of waders to get through all of this BS.

Apple's website still says they are shipping with Panther, and it usually takes awhile for Apple to get the machines loaded up. They also have to change the graphics on the box and PB manuals because they usually have OS screenshots.

There is still plenty of stock out there of Panther-loaded machines.

Prove me wrong with a shot.

Heh, let's see...all that's needed to cover the OS upgrade are the OS to be sent to the factory (already done, probably the moment that 8A428 got the go ahead, they probably started switched to it,) stickers to cover up the spots necessary to signify the new release (screenshots already printed probably 3 weeks before GM, and new text too!) and websites are known to be purposefully behind schedule so as to prevent a rush of ordering until they are ready...soooooooo, think twice before pushing the button next time, 'kay? :) Just because a source says it doesn't come with it, doesn't always mean it's true, especially in the case of improvements and upgrades.

[mac-er]

Heh, let's see...all that's needed to cover the OS upgrade are the OS to be sent to the factory (already done, probably the moment that 8A428 got the go ahead, they probably started switched to it,) stickers to cover up the spots necessary to signify the new release (screenshots already printed probably 3 weeks before GM, and new text too!) and websites are known to be purposefully behind schedule so as to prevent a rush of ordering until they are ready...soooooooo, think twice before pushing the button next time, 'kay? :) Just because a source says it doesn't come with it, doesn't always mean it's true, especially in the case of improvements and upgrades.

I thought twice....I stand by my original comment :)

[crackrock]

Indeed.

I've also now got 3 pre-orders in. Apple.com, Amazon, and MacMall. Who is going to deliver first? :)

Eh, I have to ask... why not buy a family pack?

[mac-er]

Eh, I have to ask... why not buy a family pack?

I think he trying to see which site will get it to him first.

He will then cancel/return the other orders I suppose.

[powerbook911]

Eh, I have to ask... why not buy a family pack?

I'm going to cancel or refuse the ones that don't come first. I only have one mac, so I only need one copy. I did cancel the MacMall one today, for it was obvious they figured out their blunder early in the week.

Now I only have Apple.com and Amazon preorders.

[crackrock]

This has all the info about what shipping is what

http://store.apple.com/OrderStatus/Images/orderstatusdetail.html

Here's what my order looks like...

That seems like a lot of wasted effort, when it's only like... a day if anything that it could possibly come earlier.

[aussie_geek]

Indeed.

I've also now got 3 pre-orders in. Apple.com, Amazon, and MacMall. Who is going to deliver first?

Eh, I have to ask... why not buy a family pack?


I think he trying to see which site will get it to him first.

He will then cancel/return the other orders I suppose.

'm going to cancel or refuse the ones that don't come first. I only have one mac, so I only need one copy. I did cancel the MacMall one today, for it was obvious they figured out their blunder early in the week.

Now I only have Apple.com and Amazon preorders.


:eek: Now that's dedication!! ROTFL

aussie_geek

[DarkSideofMoon]

Piss & ****. Maybe they only use DHL for AppleCare services.

Nope, I don't think so... I just got some prints from iPhoto/Kodak today and it says on the package it shipped via DHL. By the way, first time I ever used the service, and the prints turned out amazing. Just got back from Italy/Greece a couple weeks ago and I was very pleased. :)

(Live in Alberta, Canada; if that makes a difference :rolleyes: )

[adamberti]

Nope, I don't think so... I just got some prints from iPhoto/Kodak today and it says on the package it shipped via DHL. By the way, first time I ever used the service, and the prints turned out amazing. Just got back from Italy/Greece a couple weeks ago and I was very pleased. :)

(Live in Alberta, Canada; if that makes a difference :rolleyes: )

Do you know where the prints came from? I live in Alberta too, and I'd be tempted to try it out if I knew who was printing them. Was it an international shipment?

[Mac_Freak]

I just ordered Tiger from Apple store and I am still going to that Apple event, just to see how it is. If I get Tiger before the event, then guess what guys, I am going with my pb to irritate some guys in line :) !!!
And it too says on my order confirmation that it will ship by or on April 28th

[broken_keyboard]

Interesting story on xlr8yourmac.com. Apparently one of the dealers who sent Tiger out early is trying to get customers to send it back!

[ShiggyMiyamoto]

Interesting story on xlr8yourmac.com. Apparently one of the dealers who sent Tiger out early is trying to get customers to send it back!

LMAO! That's whack... I wonder who'd go along with that and send it back...

Like alot of you here mine is still "processing" with an estimated 4/28 shipment... I hope I get it like Monday or so. That would own so much... I'll let you know when it's been shipped! ^_^

[DarkSideofMoon]

Do you know where the prints came from? I live in Alberta too, and I'd be tempted to try it out if I knew who was printing them. Was it an international shipment?

It says on one sticker: 'Apple, 2811 Laguna Blvd., Elk Grove, CA 95758'

Then on Expedited Parcel:

From: GLOBAL MAIL
Exp: 7496 BATH RD #2
MISSISSAUGA ON L4T 1L2

So I'm not sure who actually prints them. My uneducated guess tells me they print them in CA, then mail them to ON, then ship them to me. I'll be honest, it took a long time to mail (almost 3 weeks! Maybe it's different for others :confused: ), so if you're in a hurry, opt for something else, but if you want a surprise in your mailbox, go with iPhoto. Or you want to mail some pics to a friend who lives in Newfoundland, you can send it right to them when you order your prints in iPhoto.

The pictures turned out real well...

</offtopic>

[Pismo]

My new PB came in today with OS X Tiger installed!

This guy is full of *****. If you view his public profile, he only has one post. He's scewing with us. You must not have a life to go through the registration process just to post something as stupid as this. Must get off doing crap like this on forums. A$$hole.

[adamberti]

LMAO! That's whack... I wonder who'd go along with that and send it back...

I'd go with that! The mail order dealer offered to throw in iLife or iWork. I'd install it, send it back, and get it back in a week with a copy of iWork :)

[shidoshi]

I'd go with that! The mail order dealer offered to throw in iLife or iWork. I'd install it, send it back, and get it back in a week with a copy of iWork :)

For a free copy of one of those, hell yeah I'd sent it back and wait a few days to get it back.

[ShiggyMiyamoto]

For a free copy of one of those, hell yeah I'd sent it back and wait a few days to get it back.

If I absolutely had to send it back I'd first rip copies of the discs.

:D :D :D

[heisetax]

Mine's gone from "Open" to "Processing Order."

Hopefully that means it'll ship today.


Mine has said "Processing Order" for several days now. Still no sign of shipment.

Bill the TaxMan
:)

[ShiggyMiyamoto]

This guy is full of *****. If you view his public profile, he only has one post. He's scewing with us. You must not have a life to go through the registration process just to post something as stupid as this. Must get off doing crap like this on forums. A$$hole.

*shakes head* Some people do anything just to get attention.. Sad aint it? What's possibly sadder is that some people seem have fallen for it as far as I can tell.... (Unless they're playing along, of course.)

Verbotm or whatever your name is: Please tell me you registered here to participate in Mac related discussions, because if you only joined to get people excited and then let them down when they learn you were spreading BS that's not right.

[heisetax]

For days now I have not been able to access the "My Account" or "Check Order Status" pages at the Apple store, regular and edu. Anyone else having this issue? I get a Bad Server Request page.

Safari on X.3.9

Edit: I just tried with Explorer [yuk], and it worked. ?


Try Firefox. Its nicer than IE & works for everything on my Macs. I use several websites that will not work with Safari. For that reason I've stopped using Safari on a regular basis early last January.

Bill the TaxMan

[ShiggyMiyamoto]

Yo Man that's a cooool B.S. meter and very well needed!

I agree. ^_^ Verboten: Prove us wrong with a LEGITIMATE screenshot of your PB... Prove to us that you're not the pile of BS you appear to be. We can tell if you attempt photoshopping.... Fair warning. ;)

[gmanrique]

Mine has said "Processing Order" for several days now. Still no sign of shipment.

Bill the TaxMan
:)

I checked my order and it also says "Processing Order". Then I decided to check the Order Status Help and "Open" is not listed there anymore as a possible value. :confused:

[gkhaldi]

I'm not even getting it delivered, so I guess I'll be getting it on the 29th.

Hey, if I use my iPod to back up my HD, and I erase my HD and do a fresh install of Tiger, will iTunes erase my iPod when I first plug it in, as my library on my Mac is empty and iTunes syncs my iPod to my iTunes library?

I'm just preparing for the big day (29th for me). Hope you guys report the bugs here so that I can wait for updates before installation. :)

If you use Carbon Copy Cloner, there would not be a problem. It is capable of bypassing the iPod security and copy the entire library to your disk. All you have to do later is to update the links in iPod.

[Brad Freeman]

NO TIGER GM FOR DEVELOPERS YET!

It is interesting to see that Tiger is being shipped already to the general public and will be available to them on April 29th, but ADC Select and Premium Members have to wait several days (a week or more if you are overseas as I am) even after the release on April 29th before we will get our Tiger GM copy! We are stuck with Build 8A425!

Something smells like Tiger poop here!

Brad Freeman
Apple Developer Connection Member
Sweden
:mad:

[BWhaler]

This guy is full of *****. If you view his public profile, he only has one post. He's scewing with us. You must not have a life to go through the registration process just to post something as stupid as this. Must get off doing crap like this on forums. A$$hole.

When you're right, you're right.

[applemax]

Well, mine's processing here in the uk store :(

[Southernboy]

hey, for those of you having bad server requests on apple's order status page in safari, delete all cookies from apple.com then go back and reenter your login info. this will fix the problem. its been suggested earlier in this thread by another poster, as i had the same problem.
Been having this problem for months but this solved it! Thanks mate ;)
Unfortunately my order status is still Open :o

[broken_keyboard]

NO TIGER GM FOR DEVELOPERS YET!

It is interesting to see that Tiger is being shipped already to the general public and will be available to them on April 29th, but ADC Select and Premium Members have to wait several days (a week or more if you are overseas as I am) even after the release on April 29th before we will get our Tiger GM copy! We are stuck with Build 8A425!

Something smells like Tiger poop here!

Brad Freeman
Apple Developer Connection Member
Sweden
:mad:


They are probably worried that as soon as they release it on ADC it will be pirated. But of course that has already happened unfortunately. Maybe it was one of the people boxing it? Who knows... somehow it got out there.

[timbuk2]

mine's also "processing order"
geez

http://img250.echo.cx/img250/7052/status1gj.th.jpg (http://img250.echo.cx/my.php?image=status1gj.jpg)

[MacDixon]

Hi All,

I pre ordered on the very day Apple decided to take orders. Unfortunately my order is still 'Open' :(

Is it just Stateside where Tiger is shipping early or does this include UK also? Always wondered....does Apple export it's software from the US or will there be a batch manufactured in the UK or Eire?

Really looking forward to this release as much as I was with Jaguar and Panther. I think the updates have been very much worth it each time. I have no complaints. I hope my Radeon 9800pro does the biz with Core Image though.

All The Best
MacDixon

[starnox]

Everyone's says processing or open, and that just means "we have your order and will ship it when we want to". If it doesn't get shipped by Wednesday then I doubt it will get to us on Friday.

[cacibi]

Got mine day before yesterday. No idea why. Posted some feedback on the widgets on the apple forums and they yanked the post.

[izzle22]

Everyone's says processing or open, and that just means "we have your order and will ship it when we want to". If it doesn't get shipped by Wednesday then I doubt it will get to us on Friday.


I Think everyone realizes that. But thanx for the clairafication.