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grkmec
Aug 24, 2011, 07:37 PM
Why does MakeMKV take over twice as long as Ripit? Is there any quality difference? Why would one use one over the other for a DVD?



KevinC867
Aug 25, 2011, 08:03 AM
Why does MakeMKV take over twice as long as Ripit? Is there any quality difference? Why would one use one over the other for a DVD?

When I started ripping Blu-Ray discs, I switched completely from RipIt to MakeMKV. I like the fact that MakeMKV produces a single file per title on the disc, rather than duplicating the full file structure of the disc. The downside is that you lose the disc's menus and navigation.

The quality of RipIt and MakeMKV files will be the same as neither one re-encodes the video or audio tracks.

I haven't noticed that one takes longer than the other, but I haven't really run a test. I suspect that the time required to rip is mostly dependent on the optical drive. An external drive will probably be faster than a "rip-locked" Mac internal drive.

obsidian1200
Aug 25, 2011, 08:34 AM
When I started ripping Blu-Ray discs, I switched completely from RipIt to MakeMKV. I like the fact that MakeMKV produces a single file per title on the disc, rather than duplicating the full file structure of the disc. The downside is that you lose the disc's menus and navigation.

The quality of RipIt and MakeMKV files will be the same as neither one re-encodes the video or audio tracks.

I haven't noticed that one takes longer than the other, but I haven't really run a test. I suspect that the time required to rip is mostly dependent on the optical drive. An external drive will probably be faster than a "rip-locked" Mac internal drive.

MakeMKV takes longer for me than Ripit because I sometimes forget that I need to push it to the next step (whereas Ripit is a set it and forget it program). It also takes longer when it encounters a "complex multiplex," whereas Ripit doesn't stutter on those discs. However, for the price and what else it can do (blu rays and whatnot), I'll take the extra step and prefer MakeMKV over Ripit. Hopefully MakeMKV will get better as it continues to get updated.

Also, just out of curiosity, I purchased an external USB2.0 Optical Drive to test it against the rip-lock drive in my 2010 iMac. Unfortunately, and it's probably due to the limitation of data transfer rates over USB2.0, the external drive didn't perform any better than the internal drive. Ripit times were the same, MakeMKV took longer to recognize the second drive, but took the same time to process the disc, and Handbrake slugged along at around 40 FPS on the ATV2 setting, whereas the internal drive slugs along at around 45 FPS. However, I'm wondering if a FW800 drive would make a difference. Too bad I don't have the funds to test it out personally.

grkmec
Aug 25, 2011, 10:06 AM
I ripped about 20 DVD's last night with Ripit and each took about 15 minutes. I was running 2 external DVD drives connected to a mac mini via USB and another external DVD drive connected to a Mac Book Pro via USB. The apple DVD drives are slow. I was using a pioneer drive from OCW.

As far as Ripit vs. MKV, I suppose that you need to use MKV if you want to separate TV episodes from a DVD to individually save for PLEX?

If I am doing a regular movie DVD, Ripit seems much quicker.

obsidian1200
Aug 25, 2011, 10:15 AM
As far as Ripit vs. MKV, I suppose that you need to use MKV if you want to separate TV episodes from a DVD to individually save for PLEX?

Not necessarily. On the TV DVDs I've ripped, all of the episodes are in the same title with chapter markers to separate them. MakeMKV is picky about whether it wants to separate the title into segments so you can rip each episode individually or if it'll just keep the larger uniform title as is on the DVD. It sometimes splits them up, other times it doesn't. Since I re-encode my movies with Handbrake anyway, both methods work just fine, but for the use you stated, you probably have a 50/50 chance of things working as described. You'd have a 100% it it's one of those DVDs where each episode is its own title.

grkmec
Aug 25, 2011, 10:27 AM
Just saw this on the Plex Wiki --

http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/PlexNine_PMS_NamingGuide

You can have multiple TV episodes in one file by using the following naming convention:

Heroes - S04E01-E02.mkv

Has anyone every experimented with this? Does Plex then represent each episode individually on th GUI?