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MacRumors
Oct 2, 2002, 01:41 PM
ThinkSecret (http://www.rumortracker.com/framesets/thinksecret/index.html) predicts that iPhoto will be updated by the end of this month.
While details of specific feature changes in this release were not available, insiders said that Apple is planning to release it by Halloween, at the end of this month.



redAPPLE
Oct 2, 2002, 02:11 PM
iPhoto would probably support more cameras, 1 or 2 new editing options, .mac integration (or does it do that already?)

i guess any update is a good update.

nickmcghie
Oct 2, 2002, 02:17 PM
Thats great... but what I'd really like is an iMovie update. iMovie is by far Apple's "oldest" iApp.. I don't even remember when it was last updated (iMovie 2 came out at least two years ago)

iMovie is a great program as it is now, but it is far from perfect... it could use more flexibility in title/image placement, audio controls, and various other minor tweaks

g3ski
Oct 2, 2002, 02:23 PM
iMovie needs serious work fixing the huge bug with exporting files back to the camera that result in stuttering. This has been a giant issue with so many people.

iPhoto could use a few interface tweaks as well. It is not that intuitive to rename groups of photos....Apple seems to want people to name photos and do everything by sorting...that is not practical since it is much easier and more likely to name a folder then have photo1, photo2, photo3, etc in that folder. Not everyone has time to rename and categories all of their photos, probably very few people do.

iPhotos and iMovie seem to be Apple's most consumer facing products and should be extremely polished and bug free. Kudo to apple for making them and making them free.....let's there they put the final polish on each one.

Timothy
Oct 2, 2002, 02:53 PM
iPhoto is great, but could be better! Here's a few of the items on my wishlist!

1) Allow for sub-folders: I don't want 10 different photo albums of my son, I want 1 album, with 10 subfolders.

2) Allow different key words in every new album. My photos dealing with work do not use the same types of key words as my photos dealing with family.

3) Allow quick-key assigning of keywords during slideshow, so that I can "watch" a show of my photos, and quickly tag them.

4) Password protection of either entire program, or better yet, specific photo albums.

I think I have a longer list around here somewhere, but this should do for now!

g3ski
Oct 2, 2002, 02:58 PM
all of those sounds great, esp. the subfolder

Yuk-Monkey
Oct 2, 2002, 03:00 PM
Hey guys, there is an update to iMove - its called FINAL CUT PRO! Quit messin' around with that dinky little program and run with the big dogs baby!

P-Worm
Oct 2, 2002, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Yuk-Monkey
Hey guys, there is an update to iMove - its called FINAL CUT PRO! Quit messin' around with that dinky little program and run with the big dogs baby!

Oh shut up, you know what we mean. :rolleyes: As much as I love Final Cut Pro, many people don't want to shell out so much money. Sorry, didn't mean to single you out...

As of all of the suggested features to iPhoto, be careful what you wish for. What do more features mean? More ways to screw up. The beauty of hese iApps is in their simplicity. Final Cut Pro and iMovie are an example of this. Final Cut Pro is so packed with features that it can be overwhelming. When i did my first edit, I used iMovie, and you know what? I didn't need to look at the help file once. Now that I'm up with big dogs like Yuk-Monkey, I have more problems simply because Final Cut Pro is so huge.

Just my two quarters...

P-Worm

eric_n_dfw
Oct 2, 2002, 04:07 PM
How about scanner support!

Yuk-Monkey
Oct 2, 2002, 04:07 PM
Oh I didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers there P-worm. It took me a few months to learn most of the stuff I wanted to know in FCP but man, I would never go back to iMovie! I acknowledge that price is a factor. But if people are serious enough into iMovie to start requiring features is doesn't have then maybe they need to at least consider moving up to FCP. iMovie is what it is, a simple to use program that, by design, lacks some of the features of the pro applications. Sure they could probably make iMovie a LOT better with little or no effort. Its sort of like when Chevy puts the same engine in the Corvette and the Camaro to save money. However, those customers who are paying a premium for the vette don't want some 18 year old high school kid blowing their doors off so they purposely restrict the intake and exhaust, among other things to satisfy their higher paying customers. Maybe that is what apple is doing? Sure apple keeps updating iTunes. There isn't a pro audio application to compete with. iPhoto, no problem. No pro image editing app. Maybe I'm way off base, just a theory.

scem0
Oct 2, 2002, 05:29 PM
How about a video organizing program? Like iTunes or iPhoto with videos. I am utterly obsessed with Kung Fu and have about 150 kung fu videos, it would be nice to be able to organize them into groups, and stuff like that.

macsurfer
Oct 2, 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Timothy


4) Password protection of either entire program, or better yet, specific photo albums.



What dude so you can hide your porn?

blackpeter
Oct 2, 2002, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Timothy

4) Password protection of either entire program, or better yet, specific photo albums.

And what types of pornos... ahem, I mean photos, will you be keeping in these albums?

funkywhat2
Oct 2, 2002, 07:34 PM
maybe some of us would like to hide our porn!

Ibjr
Oct 2, 2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by crazy_will
maybe some of us would like to hide our porn!

guilt kills.

DrGrip84
Oct 2, 2002, 07:49 PM
why didn't they just NAME it iPorn? i mean, cum on... you know that's what jobs wanted it for.:D

Ibjr
Oct 2, 2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by DrGrip84
why didn't they just NAME it iPorn? i mean, cum on... you know that's what jobs wanted it for.:D

and w/ isync you can view your iporn while using your palm!

i guess thats why they call you Dr. Grip


Really. This is getting bad.

Timothy
Oct 2, 2002, 08:13 PM
First off...I can think of several applications of locking an Album that don't include porn...for example, I have some very detailed photos of my wife giving birth to our first child, and am not sure I'd like those openly available to anyone who happens upon my computer.

That said; I won't apologize for the occasional erotica pic loaded into iPhoto either. ;-)

Timothy
Oct 2, 2002, 08:16 PM
I've never made a habit of "rating" the threads...but I can't figure out why this thread would have equal negative and positive ratings? What downside could there possibly be to an update of iPhoto? Why would this thread merit a negative rating?

funkywhat2
Oct 2, 2002, 08:43 PM
i think it's the constant porn references. looks like some super-right-wing people are here
:D

gandalf55
Oct 2, 2002, 09:03 PM
how about being able to pop QT assets into iMovie instead of everything having to come off of a camera. i know about the whole rights thing, etc. but some of us have old footage that was saved to QT .mov or whatever already and we can't cut those in. FCP does do all that - but iMovie3 would be nice to support it.

Ibjr
Oct 2, 2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by crazy_will
i think it's the constant porn references. looks like some super-right-wing people are here
:D

they are just repressed. They can't be blamed.

MacArtist
Oct 2, 2002, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by gandalf55
how about being able to pop QT assets into iMovie instead of everything having to come off of a camera. i know about the whole rights thing, etc. but some of us have old footage that was saved to QT .mov or whatever already and we can't cut those in. FCP does do all that - but iMovie3 would be nice to support it.

That can be done now. Take your *.mov or whatever QuickTime file you have and open it in QuickTime Pro. Export it as a DV stream, then you can import it into iMovie.

a_kim
Oct 2, 2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by scem0
How about a video organizing program? Like iTunes or iPhoto with videos. I am utterly obsessed with Kung Fu and have about 150 kung fu videos, it would be nice to be able to organize them into groups, and stuff like that.

Dude, you are cool, and by cool I mean totally sweet! (http://www.realultimatepower.net/)

But seriously, I welcome an update to iPhoto as long as it doesn't wipe out my albums! I like the idea of subfolders as well as handling QT videos. Really, I can't see it being very hard to incorporate QT videos into the app. I know a lot of people who make record little clips on their digital still cameras and would like to import them (and have them on display) right alongside their pics.

-Alex

Codemonkey
Oct 2, 2002, 10:43 PM
... a P E R F O R M A N C E increase. iPhoto is a DOG, and it really, really shouldn't be. Don't care if it requires a rewrite (I'll wait), but something needs to be done. Us unlucky folk without doolies or even high-end G4's are stuck with shoddy window resizing and even straightforward displaying of images.

If I wanted more choices in the toolbox I'd just open the photo in Fireworks.

Just my .02 CAD...

solvs
Oct 2, 2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Yuk-Monkey
Hey guys, there is an update to iMove - its called FINAL CUT PRO! Quit messin' around with that dinky little program and run with the big dogs baby!

And then of course there's Adobe Premier 6.5 for the middle ground.

Oh, wait. Nobody cares cuz it sux. Well, nevermind. :p

I use it on my Win2000 PC. Let's just say I can't wait to get a new Mac in another couple of months. And a nice educational discount on all the software. FCP for $299!!!

Yeah baby.

Foocha
Oct 3, 2002, 03:35 AM
I agree, performance is a problem with iPhoto. I've been using it on my Titantium PowerBook with no problems, but last week I set it up for a friend on his iBook, and it was real slow. It made me feel a little guilty for recommending an iBook in the first place.
Don't know if this is a hardware or software problem, however...

redAPPLE
Oct 3, 2002, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by macsurfer


What dude so you can hide your porn?

i do not even know why i find this funny. but it is damn funny. f#$k this beer. :D

olliek
Oct 3, 2002, 08:30 AM
I'm surprised that most of you seem to have missed the obvious update to iPhoto! I'll be really surprised if they don't add the same 'live updating' folder option from iTunes 3 to any iPhoto update.

Just think, no more assigning keywords to a photo and them manually moving it to a corresponding folder(s) !

I would also like to see the ability to download any short movies made with my digital camera at the same time as downloading any photos. It's a feature that appears on almost all digital cameras so why not have it intergrated into iPhoto?

One more thing....Does anyone else wish that you could set the zoom slider to different positions for each folder and not just one setting for all?

Codemonkey
Oct 3, 2002, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by olliek
I would also like to see the ability to download any short movies made with my digital camera at the same time as downloading any photos. It's a feature that appears on almost all digital cameras so why not have it intergrated into iPhoto?


Totally. This feature would rock, but I think the logistics involved in supporting all the proprietary movie formats would maybe be too great. For example, I output to QuickTime, but my co-worker's outputs to MPEG - only, it's not, it's called Motion Jpeg. Which requires a specific codec to be installed to view it (ie. it's not standard per se).

So, unlike still image standards (RAW, JPEG, TIFF, etc.), digital movie standards really don't exist in the digital still camera market, imo.

HTH!

MacDaniel
Oct 3, 2002, 12:20 PM
How about the ability to archive albums directly to CD retaining thumbnails and metadata in your iPhoto Library.

Then if you need to access or edit an archived photo it can tell you which CD you need.

Timothy
Oct 3, 2002, 03:24 PM
MacDaniel...that was another item on my list that I couldn't remember yesterday. That should be in the top 2 0r 3 most important feature updates, IMO.

benjaminpg
Oct 3, 2002, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by MacDaniel
How about the ability to archive albums directly to CD retaining thumbnails and metadata in your iPhoto Library.

Then if you need to access or edit an archived photo it can tell you which CD you need.

I would love this feature. It would be great for those of us without huge hard drives, and also it seems like it could be used for backup. Although sub-albums also sound good.

Wry Cooter
Oct 3, 2002, 04:59 PM
I think the main tweaks iPhoto needs are staying with its shoebox metaphor, and bringing it functionally closer to the way iTunes works as far as naming image files, and deciding where they should be stored.

You could even be able to sort by the source of the image, whether it be a frame from an iMovie, imported from your digital still camera, something you worked up in photoshop, or scanned in, or pulled from the web or some other source.

wrylachlan
Oct 3, 2002, 05:26 PM
why the iPod, not the iJukebox or iListen etc., etc., etc.?
...because the iPod has more functionality than just playing music. And Apple has said that they intend to add some new functionality to the iPod. My guess is that the next version of iPhoto coincides with a new iPod with a high-rez color screen.
Your iPod syncs to iPhoto just the same as it currently does to iTunes, and can display thumbnails of all your pics.